Italy's Canceled Boeing KC-46 Order: What Comes Next?

[@rokuth]

When the USAF had it's Tanker Replacement competition, the Airbus A330 had won, and was set to become the KC-45. However, after some "whining" from Boeing about losing the competition, the politics got the better of the decision, reexamined the parameters of the competition, "rejigged" them to allow the Boeing KC-46 to win. This is conjecture on my part, but that is what it looked like from all the "shenanigans" with that competition. Considering how Boeing is in a hole right now, (and seemingly not able to get out of it) there are probably many people thinking that maybe the KC-45would have been a better buy. So "Buy American" for the USA, and "Buy European" for Italy. Makes sense.

[@marcg1686]

I'm an Airbus fanboi, but going with a 767 tanker (USAF) did have its merits. The smaller footprint allows the KC-46 to operate from smaller airfields.

[@ElmarLecher]

@@marcg1686 not really a problem in europe and given the range of these planes. Especially unlike for the USAF most of the use will be in the neibourhood of europe anyway. So a real large airport is never really far.

[@tireballastserviceofflorid7771]

America's military is required to buy American for the most part. And yes everyone should buy their own sh!t. National security issue.

[@WhatWouldYouHaveYourArbiterDo]

@@tireballastserviceofflorid7771 True but I believe the offer to the USAF would have seen the "KC-45" being assembled at Airbus's US facilities and in collaboration with one of the US defence primes - Lockheed Martin iirc. I think the difference in export success between the two and the fact that the A330 MRTT won the original US competition is sufficient to suggest that Airbus has the superior product in this category.

[@tireballastserviceofflorid7771]

@WhatWouldYouHaveYourArbiterDo Still a foreign firm. And few planes begin great. You get a good design and then work from there. Take the C5 for example. From turd to rock star. The CH53. It began as a widow maker from hell but became a legend. Other than boeings new lack of quality, the US has a pretty good track record with military aircraft.

[@ElmarLecher]

Buying Airbus results in work for more than 4000 in Italy as several larger suppliers for airbus are from Italy. The US has some "buy american" too - why should that not be a consideration for an european country?

[@AlFreeman-xy4jy]

Airbus non produce niente in Italia, ma Boeing si.

[@grahambuckerfield4640]

Italy was a major contractor on the 767 and 787.

[@todortodorov6056]

Italy will still be a contractor on the 787. But we should have a "buy European" policy too. This will strengthen the industry, make Europe's defense less dependent on (unpredictable) USA and boost our economy. A clear win!

[@AlFreeman-xy4jy]

@todortodorov6056 ¿Y cuáles serían los aviones de "compra europea"? ¿Comprar a Francia y Alemania? No compran nada a los demás, sino que ponen un radio en las ruedas de los demás si intentan construir sus modelos.

[@ElmarLecher]

@@AlFreeman-xy4jy There s no french and german industry. Airbus has factories in a lot of european countries. The Airbus millitary transport and MRTT planes are for example produced in Spain

[@juliane__]

Going european is exactly, what we need. The US might break away as supplier sooner than we like it.

[@michaelhall7546]

Can't see them not selling to Europe

[@eddy66t6]

​@michaelhall7546 it's not that they won't it's that the US is an unreliable defence partner. No point spending billions on security and defence if the secrets are just passed to the Russians by US leadership, as one example

[@1EnZBosS1]

​@@michaelhall7546 i think its more about them started to lessen our ties overal towards europe and the eu so its in our best interest to start doing things closer to home. Doubt it would sour to the point of isolation. But things are looking to change for the worse so we shall see.

[@Hans-gb4mv]

@@michaelhall7546 since the US prioritizes their own manufacturers, and so do other contries, we in the EU should start doing the same.

[@jean-pierrelaugier6627]

@@michaelhall7546 New "unpredictable" president. Who could decide to refuse spare parts any morning... 😞

[@well-blazeredman6187]

Twenty years? At military flying-rates? Still young at heart.

[@trotamarmorata2673]

The Italian tanker flet Is more young,the first kc767 enter in service 2011 !!!

[@MALUR82]

I don’t know about Italy but Poland should be getting two of these beauties A330-8 MRTT

[@mariorossi1633]

Choosing an European built aircraft would be the best answer to the new expected tariffs on European exports to USA

[@wyldhowl2821]

Canada's upcoming tanker replacement will be A330-200's converted to MRTTs, named as the "CC-330 Husky".

[@davideddy5877]

Go Europe. Let's get independent of the US for as much as possible.

[@michaelhall7546]

Can we not subsidies your military anymore? We would like our government to spend money at home also

[@trilight3597]

@@michaelhall7546 Like we can talk. Need to hold our politicians accountable.

[@sailor67duilio27]

​@@michaelhall7546 this is old story. How many billions of dollars are spent in Europe to buy us weapons? Besides, who pays for your basis in europe? Furthermore we have been involved in almost every war the US has fought since wwii, not counting afghanistan,where the US called article 5. We do as we want...we know that our reliance on the US is coming to an end,it's time Europe start thinking Europe....MEGA!

[@christopherpakney8542]

Without America, you'd all be speaking German or Russian.

[@brandonbrown523]

Ohh so we save your ass in the war and give you money to rebuild your country and now you wanna repay us like this ?

[@malcolmm.741]

The right choice. The A330MRTT is simply the more capable platform..

[@thetruthbehindplanes]

except in rwy length

[@mmm0404]

Smaller KC46 and can land on smaller runways thou , that's the kind of versatility the USAF wanted.

[@todortodorov6056]

@AbdullahNajib-b9zThis is not an issue for the Italian AF.

[@joss.4462]

For interoperability it should be very good. The MRTT A330 is used by NATO, France, UK already and is on the way to become the european standard tanker.

[@obelic71]

correct 52 of them are already in service in Europe. 40 units are in backorder. Outside Europe Australia, Saudia Arabia and Singapore operate them.

[@damienkramer]

Interoperability doesn’t mean everyone uses the same equipment. It means it can form part of an integrated force, or in other words, all the pieces that each country brings can fit together as a whole. RAAF KC-30’s are compatible with USAF and NATO aircraft

[@todortodorov6056]

I agree. And how the geopolitics are changing, it will be more relevant than many may think.

[@gidsinveenhuizenpuntnl]

Anticipating Trumpian trade barriers and withdrawal from NATO it could also be explained as common sense. A sign of things to come?

[@MrMonoTracer]

I flew both 330 and 767. To me it is no question that the 330 is better suited for this role.

[@BIBIWCICC]

Why the hell was Italy buying from America in the first place? I’m glad they have seen the error and corrected it and bought from a European manufacturer!

[@marcg1686]

The Italians had been flying the F-16 for many years before Airbus offered a boom refueling system.

[@AlFreeman-xy4jy]

@marcg1686 Italy has never had F16s.

[@b.sithhappens6120]

@@AlFreeman-xy4jyActually, they did. They leased about a dozen or so in the early 2000s because service entry of the EF2000 was delayed.

[@Ismailia007]

@@AlFreeman-xy4jy Minor correction: Italy operates F-16s, but their use has been limited. Italy leased F-16s from the US from 2003 to 2012 under the Peace Caesar program to temporarily replace its aging fleet of Tornado and F-104 aircraft while awaiting the delivery of Eurofighter Typhoons.

[@afb2]

I did not know they were making an MRTT+. The clear option if they aren't going with the KC - 46.

[@oadka]

MRTT NEO will be super efficient

[@smoketinytom]

The MRTT(CEO) does have advantages, the wings are already engineered to have fuel carried to the fuel pods thanks to the shared A340 wing design, which of course had the 4 engines... Though I'm sure the boffins in Airbus have that sorted with the NEO wing designs.

[@seagullsbtn]

I can see USAF leasing MRTT’s. Just because KC135 can’t keep flying forever and Boeing’s inability to deliver.

[@afb2]

@@seagullsbtn as cool as that sounds the American people would have their ass if they did that lol

[@mattfgln]

Italian KC767 were delivered 10 years late because of Boeing inability to integrate the boom and the wing pods with the drogue.

[@GintaPPE1000]

The Italian KC-767s were delivered 10 *months* late because of a flutter issue caused by information on the domestic wing-mounted refueling pods they wanted. They did not share the technical and simulation data with Boeing, so Boeing could not do modeling and simulation tests beforehand. Which meant waiting until the conversion was finished to do flight testing. Nice try at gaslighting people though.

[@mattfgln]

@ keep your Boeing fanboy comments out of here. Planes were years late not months.

[@todortodorov6056]

@@GintaPPE1000 The KC's where actually only *10 days* late because the Italians did not share with them the details of the destination airport where they had to land. Which ment waiting until Boeing sent someone to verify the destination airport... [Irony]

[@golf94srm]

Good move from the Italian government! I would go to the MRTT+ with neo.

[@thetruthbehindplanes]

except...there is no militrary neo!

[@golf94srm]

@@thetruthbehindplanes It will come!

[@fafileblond9202]

Good décision

[@RichardMigneron]

Yup, the MRTT+ seems the perfect long term solution. Airbus should stop refurbishing -200/-300 for MRTTs and only go for the -800 variant or even the -900 variant. They should also start considering a Beluga made on that platform or even on the 350-1000, a Beluga UL (Ultra-Large)

[@MrSchwabentier]

There is no point in a Beluga NEO or a beluga based on the A350. It’s just unnecessary

[@sayorancode]

@@MrSchwabentier how else r we supposed to transport a380neo parts

[@soundeffectonly-os3iy]

​@@sayorancodea380neo is not gonna happen anytime soon

[@MrSchwabentier]

@ there will be no A380neo.

[@FelipeCH-fn7sc]

Because the normal A330 shares the same wing as the A340, the fuel systems are perfect for the wing mounted refuelling pods

[@sundragon7703]

The positive takeaway is this: The US reacquires 4 additional functioning refueling aircraft and Italy supports European businesses. A win-win.

[@todortodorov6056]

It's a win for Italy, so-so for the USAF. They will have an option to buy the Boeings, but the current tankers have their issues and the USAF is not exactly trilled with them.

[@mikeparker6322]

The KC-46 is a modified B767. Airbus makes a tanker based upon the A330. "Buy local".

[@michaelhall7546]

As an American, I agree. Y'all take care of yourself from now on and we'll take care of US

[@eddy66t6]

I'm detecting a pattern here... 😂 you don't seem to understand US defence strategy for the last 80 years or so: the US needs Europe as part of its defence, in the same way the soviets and Russia need/want a buffer in the form of eastern Europe. Europe being part of the US defence strategy allows the US to pivot to other regions, e.g. the Pacific and China, without significantly increasing its resource expenditure to defend the Atlantic. The US in that time also pushed the world into this global economy where they buy cheap abroad and sell expensive at home, that relies on foreign security considerations for the US that they simply can't consider alone. China is simply not a threat for Europe in the same way it is for the US, so any pivot away from US based European defence will mean they will only be considering credible theats: Russia. The US doesn't have the luxury of threat selection: Russia will always be a threat due to ICBMs. Ultimately this will all probably lead to a massive increase in US spending or a deterioration in US capability.

[@mikeparker6322]

@eddy66t6 What does that got to do with the KC-46 and Italy. How many aerial tankers would the Italian military need anyway? Probably under 10. Not exactly a big loss for Boeing. I mean KC-135's have been flying for decades and will continue to fly. Only the KC-10 are being slowly retiredl You are talking about strategic policy and this matter is on a lower level way.

[@gerhardma4687]

@@michaelhall7546 Oh, your defence industry will then cut a lot of jobs and even more Americans will be living in tents or cardboard boxes on the pavements. It already looks like Bangladesh in the big cities. No industry in the USA is as dependent on exports as the defence industry. With your statement you have only proven how short-sighted and stupid some Americans think. And your future president is the worst of all.

[@iceman9678]

China not a threat to Europe?!? That's a good one.

[@youcantata]

MRTT-330 is better than KC-46. They participated in the many tanker aircraft competition around the world before, and MRTT-330 won most vids. South Korean air force is very satisfied with MRTT-330.

[@NikCan66]

Regular parts from Europe as Boeing quality can be questioned due to recent plane accidents

[@todortodorov6056]

And the unpredictable political situation in the US. You do not want your defense to rely on somebody that is actively pushing for a trade war with you.

[@swagathshetty]

Italy was a made guy and Boeing wasn't. there was nothing anybody could do about it

[@tobiwan001]

The KC-46 has almost no export customers. And why would it. It’s worse and more expensive than the A330MRTT and has plenty of issues. The A330 win almost all export bids for a reason.

[@basilpunton5702]

The A330 seems to be winning contracts from even countries that are usually fanatically tied to the USA.

[@EuropeanRailfan-AM]

Didn't even know they had KC-46s on order (embarrassingly since I'm an Italian 💀)

[@alessandrocolombero-6920]

Non l'avevano ordinati volevano portare i nostri 767mrtt =4 variante kc-46 e comprarne altri 2 ma è tutto sfumato

[@cliveshakespeare9184]

Buy local and support Italian industry, you never know when foreign suppliers will let you down.

[@joriss5]

There is no Italian supplier of large air tankers.

[@cliveshakespeare9184]

@@joriss5 Part of Airbus Industrie.

[@ericjones7769]

Is that a B52 being air refueled in this video 🤔🤔

[@joriss5]

yes

[@marc9080]

Technologiquement et multi- rôles le MRTT est très en avance sur le KC 46 donc excellent choix pour l'Italie!

[@mefrfiter]

likely fewer headaches with the A330.

[@avrahamg7925]

Again thank you Boeing

[@TheNefastor]

Something tells me no one wants any Boeing plane in any role if there's an alternative.

[@EyeInTheSkypaulmcmenamin]

If not for supporting local industry in the United States(which is a good reason) and maybe maintaining US support (Japan) I don't think any nation would even consider the KC46/767 even compared to the A330-200, it's practically inferior in every regard and your getting a lot less for your $!

[@lukejohnston4666]

And in case of Japan no airlines operate A330 - they do have A350 in JAL for start, through.

[@todortodorov6056]

@@lukejohnston4666 Japan has been very Boeing have - but think of the history, it being beaten by the US in 1945. It's clear that US had a huge surplus in the military industry after WW2, including plane making. Converting this to civilian plane making and selling those to the countries that you just beaten was a no brainer. Korea is similarly very Boeing heavy and Germany has some traces too, Lufthansa being the launch customer on some Boeing models (however this is somewhat changed with Airbus being an alternative).

[@lukejohnston4666]

@todortodorov6056 ROKAF do have A330 MRTT and Korean Air have airbus incl the super A380...

[@todortodorov6056]

@@lukejohnston4666 I did not use the word *exclusively* but Boeing heavy.

[@lukejohnston4666]

@todortodorov6056 Indeed you are correct but just to point out about airbus popularity in Korea (compared to Japan)

[@Ishmam...28]

USAF should have retired the KC-135 in the 90s and should have used the 767 platform like Italy and Japan The problems would have been solved by now and upgrades would be easier. They could have also replaced the E-3 with 767s. Also, does the four engine redundancy really matters🤔🤔 ?

[@Rehunauris]

Engine redunancy was a good argument 40 years ago but not in 2024.

[@moteroargentino7944]

Argentina will be needing a tanker for the incoming F-16, I wonder if we could get our hands on a couple of those.

[@alessandrocolombero-6920]

D'accordo paese paese svediamo 767 mrtt italiani

[@AlexRoivas]

Argentina is broke. Last thing you need is buying military hardware.

[@zadarthule]

US should have acquired refueling planes from Europe. Europe should have purchased American cargo planes.

[@ronaldv_tm]

For (parts)commonality reasons, the AMI might be better off by selecting the regular A330MRTT that is (in NATO) also in use with Canada, France, Spain and the Multinational Multirole Tanker Transport Unit and (albeit slightly different) the RAF.

[@guillermojimenezcastelblan8456]

Europeans must to be proud about its own Airbus Trade mark worldwide product, and this A 330 would be the logical Union European tanker operational equipment, so I don`t mind to purchase an USA unit for any valid reason, at all. Salute from Colombia, South America.

[@KelechumwuNwafor]

Can we please see this k.c picture,s

[@gw6496]

Good luck Italy with Airbus too.

[@Nobi36]

Danggg a new aircraft in military standards!! That's crazy, this is like the first time I've seen a modern jet to fly with an air force.

[@thetruthbehindplanes]

kc46 f35 su 57 j 20 su 35 f15 lots of modern aircraft flying with air forces

[@Nobi36]

@@thetruthbehindplanes I meant like new from commercial to military conversion due to like the kc46 being the older 767-200 with newer avionics. Unlike the a338 which actually has very new engines in terms of technology in civilian aviation

[@MoritzvonSchweinitz]

As the MRTT name suggest, the MRTT is also very flexible and versatile in its roles, and can be used as a Medevac or troop transport. That seems like quite a plus.

[@CassioPrezotto]

Couldn’t the KC-190 potentially be considered an alternative in this scenario?

[@dogsnads5634]

No. Nor could the A-400. Doesn't have the range/payload capability.

[@gerardphillips7507]

Embraer KC-390?

[@Idahoguy10157]

Considering Boeing corporate malfeasance and terrible management I’d give the contract to Airbus

[@kevbrown1867]

Don’t by from Uncle Sam if he gets mad at you good luck trying to get parts

[@carisi2k11]

Simple. The rest of europe is using the MRTT and so that is what they will move to.

[@philippw1971]

Why don‘t they join the European NATO tanker alliance?

[@dogsnads5634]

The same reason that France isn't a part of it. They have the requirement and need for a certain number of aircraft rather than a limited number of hours from a shared fleet.

[@rulitoslhp]

some kc390 are coming

[@ludovic7439]

The A330 MRTT is better...Simple...

[@MartinChadwick-xe7gh]

In some sense it matters less whether these tankers work than whom they buy it from i.e. whose defence industry their purchase favours. The US is far more likely to act in favour of the West's needs than the EU. So should buy from US. However, buying from currently rotten Boeing is perhaps not really acting in US interests? This argument works best with Australia choosing to buy submarines from US rather than France.

[@alessandrocolombero-6920]

Yes boy but mrtt 330 don't build it in spain but in france

[@Boitaoutix]

All A330 MRTTs are assembled in Toulouse, as platforms, before being converted in Getafe in Spain for the assembly of the refueling system.

[@Rehunauris]

Parts for Airbus planes are being made all over Europe and other parts of the world.

[@janwitts2688]

Years ago I thought that just buying a dozen low age 340L for nearly nothing.. along with spares.. and converting them as required to the tanker role would be the most sustainable and lowest cost for for a smaller airforce over 20 or so years..

[@murgel2006]

I'm a strong supporter of European countries producing and procuring European-made military equipment. Thus I consider it the utmost stupidity that the European countries have not increased their procurement of equipment massively, if not since 2014 the at least since 2022. Honestly, nobody can be that blind, that naive and that stupid. Also, Europe's military industry has not massively increased its production which is another ill-conceived course of action. Poland should not have had any need to buy tanks in South Korea, they should just have been able to order those additional Leopard 2 (back in 2014) without any problems. Europe should be producing more than enough to increase the various armies on short notice. But Europe is still sleeping, ignoring the facts and needs of the changed circumstances.

[@simonford7806]

Buy European. MEGA!!

[@peteregan3862]

A330 is a great choice.

[@Leptospirosi]

Italy tender also requires that the tanker has to be in service, which the A330-800 is not. I doesn't restricts the contender to Airbus only, and the KC46A is still in the race, but Boeing has to do better in offering then it did. The KC767A has been full of problems and the original request was for Boeing to take ownership of the retired planes for the delivery of 6 more, but apparently Boeing refused the deal after it was already discussed and approved. Obviously Italy is not very keen of Airbus, which is the main contender for Leonardo on the world market in the Helicopter and Medium Cargo transport, so I would not bet on the A330, unless the offer is VERY tempting. the only collaboration between Airbus and the Italian Industry has been the NH90, and it didn't went so well.

[@simu31]

There are 130 Italian companies actively suppliying airbus. To insinuate Italy is "not very keen of [sic] Airbus" is shortsighted at best.

[@DuyLeNguyen]

Airbus has quite a significant industrial presence in Italy. This comment either is highly ignorant or is deliberately misleading... Airbus is directly involved with Leonardo via ATR (50/50 ownership), they have also partnerships in MBDA, Panavia programme, Eurofighter programme. That's not to mention multiple Italian suppliers who directly produce components/parts and services to Airbus supply chain.

[@roelkomduur8073]

Boeing digged it's own grave with this stolen contract, they simply can't deliver. Absurd cost/ deliver overruns, poor quality and structural technical problems. USAF technicians found garbage and left tools in spaces of delivered aircraft!!!

[@jean-mathieuleblanc6226]

Don't buy from the US!

[@frankcessna7345]

Italy got a talking to from the EU - buy European or else.

[@craigbeatty8565]

Just get KC-30s. Airbus is better.

[@KelechumwuNwafor]

Greetings from Boeing himself the Future 0 0 airlines ..k.c

[@paison812]

I mean why not buy euro made planes

[@alessandrocolombero-6920]

Si ma IN FRANCIA no no no no in spagna

[@Boitaoutix]

@@alessandrocolombero-6920 Tutti gli A330 MRTT sono assemblati a Tolosa, come piattaforme, prima di essere convertiti a Getafe in Spagna per l'assemblaggio del sistema di rifornimento.

[@sainnt]

The Italian prime minister is a nationalist, so I can definitely see them opting for Airbus instead of Boeing.

[@thetruthbehindplanes]

of course.

[@MrSchwabentier]

tbf Italy has no stakes in Airbus. So the nationalist argument doesn't make that much sense unles you class Europe as a nation.

[@steinwaldmadchen]

@@MrSchwabentier Italian isn't that Europhilic either.

[@sainnt]

@@MrSchwabentier Italy is part of the European Union, and Airbus is very much part of that in terms of the economic benefits generated by the planemaker for all members. So yeah since the EU is a collective, she can definitely be described as a nationalist when it comes to Airbus.

[@MrSchwabentier]

@@sainnt There are no Airbus facilities in Italy. They don't get any taxes from Airbus either. On the other hand, Italy builds large parts of the 787, so actually they're benefitting more from Boeing success.

[@redj59]

Old news

[@sedona687]

Why does a Italian video story have a UK voice announcer?!

[@Whoddathunk]

The U.S. military is Sooooooo strict on it requirements to build its tanker. Good luck to airbus…..

[@chandrachurniyogi8394]

the KC-46 should have been based on the stretched B767-300 ER & B767-300 ERF variant of the B767-200 ER . . . the B767-200 ER is an aging airframe & has serious reliability issues . . . the A330-200 based A330 MRTT is better than the B767-200 ER but not as capable as the B767-300 ER . . . that's where AIRBUS is so wrong, the new A330 MRTT should be based on the stretched A330-900neo wide body jet & not the A330-800neo . . .

[@MrSchwabentier]

You‘re wrong there. Because what you want in tankers is payload/fuel capacity. And for that the -800 is better than the -900. Also the 767-300ER isn’t more capable than the A330-200. Not in range, not in payload.

[@chandrachurniyogi8394]

@MrSchwabentier exactly you said it yourself . . . a mid air refuelling tanker aircraft needs space, more the cabin volume translates to more fuel carried & the stretched A330-900neo provides that extra bit of space . . . more space means more fuel carried & longer loiter time on station, hence able to refuel more fighter jets . . .

[@MrSchwabentier]

@ no, you don’t need cabin space because you run into weight restrictions before you even start filling the cabin with tanks. You need as much payload capacity as possible and the shorter variants offer more. The limiting factor is weight, not volume

[@thetruthbehindplanes]

actually,the kc46 wins in rwy length and thrust to weight.the latter isnt important,but helps in short field ops.

[@MrSchwabentier]

@@thetruthbehindplanes exactly. Another reason why Boeing based it off of the -200 and not the -300. But apparently the original commentator here thinks tankers have a cabin full of fuel tanks and therefore longer=better…

[@andreab1604]

This vid is completely deceiving. The reason for freezing the Order is budget costraints, not technical. Pockets are empty...

[@nuevision8]

Why does Italy need long-range refueling capabilities ?

[@theplum2706]

Multi Role Tanker Transport. Also, as NATO partner, Italian assets can be used between nations.

[@xyzaero]

Boeing 😂

[@osasunaitor]

The ItAlien military should order flying saucers maybe... 🤔 Just kidding, it's good news to see a European plane chosen for European defence

[@sayorancode]

i heard germany has a few of them for sale

[@kevinj2412]

Amazing the money that gets wasted on military crap.

[@stacycore4358]

there's no hope for you🤣 but enjoy your freedom of having an 'opinion' that came at the cost of the things you call 'crap'🤣🤣🤣

[@kevinj2412]

@@stacycore4358 Considering we haven't won a war since WW2, but we certainly spend a lot of money trying to. And no one occupies more countries than we do but can't protect our own border.

[@kevinj2412]

@@stacycore4358 Considering that we haven't won a war since WW2, but we sure waste a lot of money trying to. And the only country in the world that thinks we are the worlds policeman, but yet we can't even protect our own border.

[@XPRT10R]

"What's comes next"?? ILLITERATES!!

[@GEngineerAU]

Buy a KC390

[@thetruthbehindplanes]

a330mrtt is great. but not as great as kc46

[@Therealprinceofcobh]

You’re an idiot the A330MRTT is a much better aircraft always was and always will.

[@simondahl5437]

Because?

[@thetruthbehindplanes]

@@simondahl5437 because....less thrust to weight and more runway length required for mrtt

[@steinwaldmadchen]

​@@thetruthbehindplanes When KC-46 can't even properly refuel, the others are meaningless.

[@tomstravels520]

@@thetruthbehindplanes is that it? MRTT has higher payload(45T vs 29T), higher fuel capacity (110,000kg vs 96,297kg) , more powerful engines (72,000lbf vs 62,000lbf), longer range (8,000nmi vs 6385nmi) and higher service ceiling (42,700ft vs 40,100ft)

[@Raihan_Speeds_Up_Songs]

First

[@Therealprinceofcobh]

@@Raihan_Speeds_Up_Songs no one cares you mug.

[@FirstLast_Nba]

Italy has an Air Force!! for what?

[@ronparrish6666]

Meatballs

[@Test.Unknown]

Are you trying to make a lame joke?

[@arienoordzij3823]

For what reason are you here?

[@jojosworlds1208]

They have this tanker fleet mostly for refueling American jets.

[@andreaflyngitalian2785]

they say that the mother of idiots is always pregnant...she's working overtime with you

[@DerRabe3000]

Ukraine happened .. better to allocate to tanks and artillery ..man

[@georgeszurbach444]

Boeing is the past Airbus rules the skies.

[@istvanpeterkovacs730]

A330MRTT. Tariff, you know! For and against.

[@KelechumwuNwafor]

Here is the real guy they have been waiting for..k.c

[@MrThomas767]

Boeing os falling and failing