[ENG CC] S2000 debut battle - Integra R, NSX, S15 Silvia, RX7, BMW M, Caterham 7 - Tsukuba 1999

[@miroshi]

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[@JDMimportsFTW]

Miroshi sir, you are an mvp. Nothing but quality videos and I've spent many hours wacthing. Still not finished yet. Thank you for the Eng subs too.

[@JackKello]

Too bad we don't see such car programs anymore

[@doriftuh7331]

Everybody drives a bloody crossover now

[@robertneak8613]

​@@doriftuh7331yes they do and crossover all look the same and we don't have cool cars anymore because this generation don't care for cars or dont want to drive an car.

[@pswmetalmonkey]

epic video, look at Keiichi struggling to pass the ITR in that Sylvia spec R

[@Booka3141]

The guy in the 7 was hilarious :) and when i passes GanSan "What is this?" lol

[@coolstorybro9946]

Very funny moment!

[@Cricis11700]

That RX7 time attack was brutal!!!!!

[@pmp1337]

Have they raced another stock S2000 in Tsukuba after this? That Z3M! Beating an NSX(base version) with Gansan at the wheel. What a beast. Not just power, but great cornering too.

[@AnthroGearhead]

Its an old NSX, it cant compete against a Z3 M

[@tritonefreeze4058]

Yes, they raced stock S2000’s many times in Tsukuba after this, and it did much better than this first time.

[@DabDabGoose]

Base NSX is more for touring plus it was a 3.0L not the newer 3.2(so it would be mid 90s or older), Type S onwards is a huge difference, less weight better brakes stiff chassis etc.

[@Krezo200]

love the speed of the rx7 and crazy to think thats how the s2000 started on the circuit battles when it later became one of the most feared opponents cause of its abilities on tsukuba

[@lexburen5932]

the catarham super 7 was pretty impressive. great race :)

[@TwpsynMawr]

It is a purpose built track car.. haha

[@vanyapetrenko7795]

@@TwpsynMawr yeah 1 more lap and it would eat Bmw

[@Bleifuss88]

There was clearly something wrong with the S2k, looks like it didn't even make 200 HP in this battle. At least they learned to appreciate it quite quickly after this. It's an incredible car.

[@wally99szarek]

It mightve been an ap1, the ap2 version that came out later was faster

[@jeffreyxiong205]

Well its a 240hp to the crank but as in whp it lost 10-20% hp due to rear wheel drive so its not going to get all the performance.

[@binskee677]

@@jeffreyxiong205 250hp in Japan

[@TehRuiAlv3z]

Surprised that the Z3M did so well - 2nd fastest time and wins the race, fantastic!

[@Donax695]

I would not expect it at all even taken in consideration its power, I would have expected it to be a tad bit faster than S2K but not winning over NSX or Cat... it makes me glad because I like these, I wish they used in this race Z3Coupé

[@ayrtonsenna6750]

I owned one for 7 years. Many people think wrongly it's a piece of sh*** but it actually drives pretty fast if you can drive. In French magazines, when a professional driver drove both on a track, the roadster was actually quicker than the coupe. Sold it 2 years ago for a M3 e92 because the rear diff fixation damaged 3 times the trunk. Despite this, only great memories with this car!

[@ToyotaAristo]

@@Donax695 it's a basic NSX 3.0, also is not the fastest time for either the NSX, RX7, integra or the s2000.

[@superfast30]

I am extremely surprised by the ///M Roadster!

[@phongnguyen007]

Rx-7 had several lap as observe run...then pass everything if it want. M-roadter is impressive, and the tiny yet mighty Seven, really fun car.

[@michaelgalvan817]

FD RX-7 made the most progress and improvement from starting last to top 3. Impressive and not a surprise, considering the Mazda is extremely well balanced and the best handling sports car on the circuit. Long live the a Rotary Engine!

[@stevenissanz]

FD3S RX-7 also ran fastest time attack lap @ 1'07"56

[@nickb3968]

@@stevenissanz Yes, but the Caterham Super 7 actually beat it with the fastest overall lap in both events

[@Kevin01SH]

Not the best handling, the best motor. It was raping everything on the straights.

[@ToyotaAristo]

Arguably the NSX is the best handling sports car. This is the base 3.0 version against the RX-7 Type R... Also both cars are 1:04 cars in Tsukuba (Type R '92 and '99 RX7 RS) so not that impressive.

[@adrianbunyard6015]

That integra did a 1 minute 9 lap,, same as the nsx. That's a 1.8 litre car. That's really impressive. Even the honda haters have to admit that's an impressive time. I have owned a integra type r and now have a megane r26 F1 team. and I would have another integra in a heartbeat.

[@endless_touge]

Regular times for Nsx are 1:07 or lower. Integra is not even close. Prelude is 1:10 car

[@vanyapetrenko7795]

Integra is a nice car

[@ToyotaAristo]

'92 NSX Type R time is 1:04:90 but the Tegra is an pocket rocket in the track.

[@adrianbunyard6015]

@@ToyotaAristo I know. I bought one. And a Mégane r26r. Both handle well.

[@DabDabGoose]

@@endless_touge times also change depending on track conditions, Integra is give or take 2 seconds faster than Type S prelude.

[@heavy_ang_patay]

For once Honda wasn't doing too well. That Caterham is the real deal in this video. Mazda did good too.

[@umairsheikh4]

7:40 "this car is still in its break in peroid"

[@Krezo200]

Umair Sheikh ouch

[@InternalPrimate06]

I wasn't expecting M roadster to win this! This is very suprising to me.

[@oliviersavard8676]

It's not that surprising: it's got the E46 M3 engine. It's by far the most powerful car in the field: it gets something like 330 hp. That's like 50 hp over the NSX.

[@dreddnott]

@@oliviersavard8676 I believe this would have been the E36 M3 engine, the S50B32. Still about 315-320 hp.

[@DabDabGoose]

@@oliviersavard8676 it definitely had the E36 engine, the E46 engine was in the next gen Z4, the NSX was the old first gen 3.0L and it was a base model which lacks the better brakes, gear ratios and lower weight of the Type S.

[@alexest6229]

2:16 the S2000 took over 8 seconds to 100 kmh - I really wonder if the car was OK.

[@wow6055]

Its the old S2000 model, the new S2000 model was faster than that

[@giancarlolugo9586]

@@wow6055 I thought the AP1, had a 0-100 in 6.2 seconds kinda like the DC5 Type S.

[@vanyapetrenko7795]

Probably he failed some gears idk

[@wow6055]

Assume that the clutch slipped, with the old s2000 model

[@ProductofNZ]

DC2 type r is surprisingly competitive.

[@gumpy4960]

So the s2000 was still be broken in, how down on power you think it was?

[@れいこく]

s2000 新車だったからエンジンまだ当たりついてなかったのかな

[@jbender6997]

元々S2000のエンジンって実測210馬力くらいしかありませんからね

[@RS2000B]

2リッターターボのシルビアを加速で引き離すインテRすげぇ

[@chanchan2998]

ギア比の問題

[@adzlansyah.nording5349]

Imagine a b18c engine in the super 7 chasis.

[@fukkinkana]

Adzlan Syah.NorDing you're either doing a transverse to longitudinal swap and ruining the balance, or your leaving it fwd also ruining the caterham. Vw 1.8t, bp, beams, 3sgte with beams oil pan, 4age, 13b, f20, sbc, ls, coyote, 2jz, rb, sr20det, l24, l28 literally anything you can run longitudinally would be a much better swap.

[@adzlansyah.nording5349]

Braddah E fine..f20c then

[@hbsupermage]

you can run virtually any engine longitudinally, as long as you get the proper gearbox with the proper adaptation for the engine

[@Krezo200]

GanSan: ‚what is this?‘ My favorite part😂

[@playahhater4653]

debut battle? the s2k wasnt even broken in yet i think!!!

[@tomcruz3774]

"I'm under steering the same way as an FF car, what happened to you Silvia?"

[@man-mq9rk]

I am very proud to own an rx7 on this day.

[@man-mq9rk]

The z3 was considerably more expensive, and the caterham was a dedicated track car. With a light tune the rx7 would have easily taken both of them.

[@Sindor33]

I am very proud to own an Inte R on this day ;)

[@golf1diesel]

@MrLewisbate Z3 does not come with a rotary engine.Rotary engined Fc's and Fd's are for sure better balanced than the BMW.And i think they transmit even lesser vibrations,especially Fd.

[@lazarushernandez5827]

@@man-mq9rk I think the RX7 driver stated that he wanted to observe the S2000 for a bit, as it was introduced in this episode; he was intentionally hanging back for the first couple of laps.

[@man-mq9rk]

Wow my rx7 is sold now

[@emmyjasin]

nakaya san is just a beast man... that bmw suprises me bigtime, well caterham did what its suppose but, im really dissapointed with nissan tho. that Silvia S15 2.0 Turbo SPEC R NISMO EDITION, even lose to dc2 type R on straight, let alone small tight corners. wtf happens there, did i miss something?

[@vanyapipa6678]

NSX R have incredible sound!!

[@emmyjasin]

its normal nsx.

[@therisensun9277]

I was surprised by the bmw

[@pascalmpower7944]

S2000 get fucked quite hard in its Debut battle to be honest......Can't believe the Z3M blow the NSX and RX7 away and take the victory. More like M roadster's debut battle lolol Just done some research on this car, weight more than NSX and RX7, uses the same brake as BMW E36 ///M3, larger tires than both NSX and RX7 I believe and most important, much stronger frame, suspension, shocks and anti-roll bar allowing this car to max out tires and brakes performance especially the tires are bigger than NSX and RX7. I think that's most important beside having 317 horsepower. Talks about tires, I think NSX have more front end advantage since it uses double wishbone vs Macpherson at front of BMW. The doubled wishbone allows more negative camber which increase steering response by increasing tire usage of outer and inner tires compared to Macpherson. Not sure the front caster of both cars tho because the M roadster seems to have better turn in then NSX. For the rear end, the BMW M Coupe uses semi-trailing arm suspension and I believe semi trailing arm suspension have much neutral rear end motion because trailing arm gain under steer and transverse component increase over steer. Meaning semi trailing arm will gain both because of its ability to twist allowing camber change instead of leaning towards the outside direction of the corner which increases under steer. However, I still believe semi trailing arm suspension will increase over-steer due to higher negative toe angle at the outer rear wheel during heavy loaded like cornering and camber change like at 5:54 The Z3M pretty much out-brake the NSX which uses larger disc and also out-handle the NSX like at 6:26, It took way shorter distance than the NSX by less under steer. This actually put Honda in shame because Z3M is more of a S2000 rival instead of NSX but the S2000 was 2 seconds slower which is 2 blocks behind lol I believe the S2000 uses same suspension as the NSX meaning doubled wishbone in front and 5 links multi link at the back, it isn't worse than the semi trailing arm suspension in BMW but I believe the shocks or maybe the roll-bars are too soft which increase their body roll and reduce traction from inner tires decreasing their handling adjust-ability. Couple example of BMW M coupe vs S2000 through corners. The BMW M coupe destroys the S2000. By the way, doubled wishbone/ multi-link f/r is for increasing handling and steering response but require more space to install. Fact is, BMW M coupe out-handle it quite badly while using components that required less space. Not to mention they're both tiny roadster that needed as much space as possible in order to fit in. S2000 is a failure. At Nurburgring, BMW M Coupe/Honda S2000 Lap time: 8:22/8:39 Cornering speeds, speed in kmh and (lateral g's) Aremberg 105 (1.1g)/ 93 (0.85g) Bergwerk 101 (1.1g)/ 93 (0.9g) Klostertal 1 174 (1,1g)/ 164 (1g) Klostertal 2 88 (1g)/ 88 (1.1g) Pflanzgarten 168 (1g)/ 161 (0.9g) Galgenkopf 139 (1.2g)/ 126 (1.15g) At Hockenheim Lap time: 1:17.2/ 1:18.9 Nordkurve 116 (1g)/ 113 (1g) Ausg. Querspange 77 (1.1g)/ 78 (1g) Sachskurve 78 (1.1g)/ 80 (1g) Opelkurve 100 (1g)/ 95 (1g)

[@squirrel36274]

dam u wrote a lot, lol... idk about that z3, even if it is a M, I didn't expect it to do soooo well. not beat the nsx.. and the s2000, man I thought either the driver was not a good one and or the car just wasn't performing 100%. I mean, 2 sec.behind! nooo, not the s2000. besides, did u see what the driver launched the car at on the beginning!? nearly 8k.rpm!!! most of those cars don't even rev to that limit. lol all he did was smoke those tires and waste so much time spinning in place. i think, but just my opinion.

[@pascalmpower7944]

Aerik infj Yes because I was shocked by the Z3M, well, the Z3 M can be very fast since it runs same engine, tires and suspension as E36 M3 but the Z3 is lighter, shorter and lower. So I think the Z3M can run fast pace. Well, I don't think the S2000 will smoke the tires at 8k launch because he was massaging the clutch, he didn't fully engage the clutch during 1st gear. To be honest, cars with this kind of power are difficult to smoke the tires at launch lol Saw a video of launching a STi, he rev to 8k then drop the clutch, the engine dropped to 2,000 rpm immediately then get passed by everyone.

[@squirrel36274]

+ATTESA ET-S NISMO N ATTACK 東瀛戰神 R34 Z TUNE yea, but that's a sti, that's a 4 wheel drive car.. 4 wheel drives you can do that, but not on rwd, no traction control light weight cars.. it's true, his tires weren't "smoking". I was a bit exaggerating..lol, but they had to have been spinning at that high rpm. must've been New tires spinning on like soft asphalt or something.....(look at me, just coming up with b.s. all just to stick up for the s2k..lol ) nah, I could expect a lose. even if it has to be from a dam z3.. (rolls eyes) lol, but I'll just blame the driver, I won't has it! hehe. jk

[@squirrel36274]

but if u wanna see a nice awesome race, check this one out. kzbin.info/www/bejne/oHeke3anqLSSaq8 nsx is a BEAST!

[@uazhar2013]

what about the reliability? i own a s2000, and im so intrigued by the z3 all of a sudden!

[@antoniopateas6839]

If the M Roadster had closed the soft top, it would be much faster... The aerodynamic would be much better... Especially at high speeds... Pretty fast though...

[@jamesk8219]

Nakaya is just a beast

[@juliestonelake7606]

That nsx makes such a sweet noise

[@omairsh8]

The best V6 engine note of all time imo

[@skethy2333]

6:57

[@cheapone3852]

あんまりパワー出てなかったのねこのS2

[@Ferraridude13]

what engine in the caterham? sounds really nice

[@derafdrummer94]

This race is funny

[@needtau4138]

Integra is just happy to be there

[@nathanielbarbeau4821]

BMW Z3 outperforming the NSX!!! That gentleman’s agreement on a 276 HP cap was a mistake.

[@DabDabGoose]

it was the old 3.0L though with a 5 speed too, it was about 5 years old in this race, no 3.2L NSX would of lost to the Z3M

[@Itr-tv7kt]

this race was really intense one.. the caterham 7 driver makes me laugh lol

[@L00PdeL00P]

I wonder how this battle would’ve played out on a twisty road I love this show so much

[@dennischen8887]

that Z3 roadster is amazing. Should I have bought that instead of the S2000 I purchased recently? lol

[@justanothertroll9205]

Very very slow driver for S2k. Never did 1:10 on Tsukuba ,except amateurs!

[@lexburen5932]

they used a brand new s2000 hence the reason debut battle in this race, the reason why it was slow was because the engine was not broken in yet, reducing the power

[@thesis4349]

This was a bad day to be a Honda :)

[@2ndGen_HondaNSX-R]

ＴＩＲＥ..　Model year..

[@ve2430]

Surprised best motoring allowed a bimmer to win for a change

[@omarmekhancha1462]

NSX all Times

[@SVSky]

Narrator Seiyuu Kamiya Akira?

[@bertrerbear]

Whoever was driving the S2000 needs to get fired lol

[@ditanugroho5654]

i was expecting for keiichi driving the rx7

[@golf1diesel]

i was expecting Keisuke Takahashi to drive it :D

[@oliviersavard8676]

I thought he'd be driving the S2k

[@marlonandrade8006]

And they had the roof down on the Z3 M

[@cheeseburger3461]

Mロードスターが思ったより速いな。 パワーあるとはいえ重いし、ピュアスポーツじゃないからもっと遅いかと思ってた。

[@hanslubas]

M Roadster : 2976 - 3137lbs at 316HP NSX 3.0 : 3,010 lb at 270HP It's no Boxster S, but It's not like it's an SLK32.

[@cheeseburger3461]

@@hanslubas Ah M roadster isn't that heavy. But still, it's a lot faster than what I expect from those numbers. I get why these cars are going up in price.

[@mirin4014]

「この二台、紐で縛ったのだぁれ？」で糞吹いたｗｗｗｗｗｗ

[@WeiJie_Chen]

Rx7 FD3S is so fast^^

[@Krezo200]

陳緯倢 it is!

[@williamallenkey1304]

Battle Racing Speed

[@omairsh8]

Man is that NSX still sexy as hell

[@MttQaib]

Should have let DoriDori driven the s2k

[@Zsword92]

S2000 slipping clutch

[@culturedbrother]

And currently someone is trying to tell me that Nakaya isnt a good driver and cant drive anything outside of Evo's or 4WD's. What a joke.

[@hanslubas]

The M Roadster has Devil Z esque handling with a Tail that wants a driver to drive either Extremely Conservatively or Extremely Aggressively. Nakaya winning with it proves he can handle an extremely twitchy Little Beastie.

[@t3hgir]

s2000 just needs port polish, lvl 1 weight reduction and close transmission lol

[@craigb6185]

You just stick to playstation OK.

[@0okcin605]

lmao

[@Psevdonim535]

Бмв good job Хонда No power

[@丹下丈-l2n]

原坊うれしげw

[@alexgilland2269]

The awkward moment when the Europeans show up and everyone gets rekt. 😂 That FD was the real winner though. As an RX8 and BMW E30 owner, I am sated

[@oliviersavard8676]

To be fair, the M Roadster came with the E46 M3 engine. It's by far the most powerful car, I think the M3 engine did something like 330 hp: that's 50 hp more than the NSX in a pretty small car. As for the Caterham, it's just a track car by itself, so it's not surprising.

[@BlitzkriegRap]

@@oliviersavard8676 This video is from 1999. or 2000. so the BMW still had an E36 3.2 engine and a 5 speed gearbox, E46 engine was fitted in 2001./2002.. Still a strong engine tho...

[@justanothertroll9205]

:))) be proud of your 50$ crappy cars

[@davecom3]

@@oliviersavard8676 M roadster also carrying additional 100kg and less complex rear suspension than NSX. Hooligan of a car.

[@DabDabGoose]

tbh I think an Evo 6 RS would have owned every car here, NSX was also the 1st gen so probably 5 years old atleast.

[@jeromeandcars4390]

Clear victory for Europe....M roadster in a different league!

[@TheBb6prelude]

note that was a base model NSX with longer final drive and the engine internals were put together differently,I would like to see the BMW vs a NSX R,very impress with the little roadster performance. I wonder what tires it had on because it was able to hold a great line through the corners while the NSX was having trouble losing traction.

[@jethrovitorioscultor7566]

That Z3M is a US Variant. It has the same Ugly License Plate Bulges on the trunk. That's 240HP and 240 lbs foot Torque and 1400kg. So it is heavier than the S2000 and the NSX with less power.

[@TheBb6prelude]

I guess it becomes a traction war. Which ever has more traction wins.

[@kyrix1st]

No, it's most likely 321hp European version. No US version was ever imported to Japan.

[@jethrovitorioscultor7566]

kyrix1st It's Left Hand Drive and it has the US Ver. Rear Bumper. But it has clear lights instead of orange and it has headlight washer. So it's got the US Ver. Front. So I totally am not sure. The Interior shots were not clear enough so I can't see the redline...

[@PetreMihai94]

The left!!! . NANDATO???

[@中川や]

クラッチ滑ってるでしょ

[@norrisj.z5819]

HONDA

[@DKtheDK]

BMW POWER

[@andresutherland4306]

BMW fo life bitches it also didnt look like it was a M Z3 i think i only saw two pipes intead of 4

[@justanothertroll9205]

You are stupid af. No bmWC other than M can keep up with most Japanese cars!

[@日本大学の犬]

スーパーセブンガチ草

[@lotusesprit38]

Gan San wasnt on his days...the last laps were awfull and almost miss a gear.

[@pricklypear300]

He was thoroughly unimpressed by just about everything in this race 😵 wasn't his day definitely

[@DabDabGoose]

he was given an old NSX which is base model too, the base model isn't really made to be anything outside a tourer, highway gearing softer suspension etc.

[@vusalmemmedov1652]

BMW ürəkdir

[@Jo33333]

Honda should have dominated that race ! S15 keeping with a TYPE R on a track ......that driver should be shot ..... no way in hell!! His car positioning was very generous to say the least and gave others a fair go !!

[@FenderUsa]

These are professional drivers lol

[@江田島平八-z2j]

S2000シルビアに負けちゃだめだろ(笑)

[@marvinmurakami8828]

Silvia s15 the best looking car on the track.

[@野比のび犬-j9b]

タクヤの腕の問題だろ。 よく事故ってたからな。

[@teru211]

インテRが負けるのはありえない！ (;´д｀)

[@ks-hi8sc]

john 211 このバトルの中では一番クラスが下だから負けるのは当たり前だろ

[@あしゅあしゅあしゅしゅ]

200馬力でここまで頑張ってんならすごいと思うよ。

[@hatejap2010]

犬 窘められているね😁

[@user-yu3ml2er6q]

ランエボに比べてインプレッサ見た目もダサいのに遅いのか笑。

[@猫まっしぐら-q9p]

どこにランエボやインプレッサが出とる？(´・ω・`)

[@spoon654]

Taskuya Kurosawa 👎

[@spoon654]

@@temp-0651 ,Gan san 👍

[@aleksandrpeturov4176]

Смотрю долго и кажется они поддаются