ITS TIME!!! THE POET AND THE PENDULUM by NIGHTWISH REACTION!!!!

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[@lanaeshonestopinion]

Like and subscribe if you'd like to see more of me ❤😊 I apologize for my technical difficulties and my frequent pausing lol I hope yall understand ❤😊 It seems like a good amount of people still dont understand that a reaction channel is all about pausing and reacting 😂

[@corneliusantonius3108]

Emphatica = Empathy in Latin, Like having feelings forthe other persons emotions or mood.

[@YoJimBo851610]

I think most of Annette's songs are blocked in the US because of its orginal copyright and may have to do with her departure from the band. Everything from the Anette Era has been extremely hard to get posted unless it was performed by Floor or Marko ie (poet, storytime,M.P.G., etc). Also the best selling albums were from the Anette Era both Dark Passion Play and Imagenarium.

[@fredverkerk838]

@@YoJimBo851610 there was no sportify yet

[@clivematthews5296]

​@@YoJimBo851610 Dark Passion Play was written before Anette joined and any half decent singer could have recorded it especially with Marko singing so much. Live with Anette it's so poor. And this version of TPATP is on a totally different level.

[@MichealWatson-tb9yg]

You all good love

[@jarnojuhani8942]

Yes , empu asks are you ok, can you continue ❤️ Emppu 💖

[@gilsorger6548]

Great reaction. I love the impact the band is having on you. Welcome to the team. You are a true Nightwish Army exemple. Still, a long road ahead. Keep it up.

[@craigbolton5093]

You did well, grasshopper. You picked up on stuff 90% of reactors miss.

[@markschattefor6997]

When you mentioned "grasshopper" I was launched back to the 70's and visioned David Carradine in the role of kung fu monk who had one fighting scene each episode.

[@craigbolton5093]

@@markschattefor6997 -My intent!

[@markschattefor6997]

@@craigbolton5093 You are a very naughty person, if I can't sleep tonight I have to drink more booze. And that is your fault . ;-) And my pleasure..

[@jeffk1482]

I concur! Really great reaction, as we kind of thought…and great job tying things together.

[@trevorfolker3665]

I went back to the 70s as well - are we all really that old?

[@TTK2013]

This song is really emotional roller coaster...And cherry on top is Floor when she lives song thru,not just sings.

[@ValtteL]

Tuomas in 2007: It’s a very personal song, about the uppermost self hate and self disgust you can feel. The feeling that you’ll never stop doing wrong things in your life. I like the whole concept of The Poet And The Pendulum. It's related to Edgar Allen Poe's Pit And The Pendulum and I put myself onto the altar with the swaying pendulum on top of me. I really got the shivers when I thought that yes, this idea can work. The Poet And The Pendulum, there's that word play but also it had alot of symbolism because of what happened a few years ago. I felt like I was beneath this swinging blade and that it was going to come down any minute now and split me in half. I was really excited with the whole metaphor and symbolism of that. That is still my greatest achievement in music so far I think. I actually got the idea to put myself into that song, there's actually the word Tuomas in the song, from The Dark Tower series. Stephen King wrote himself into Song Of Susannah and when I read that I thought, "This is so cool, I have to do this with Nightwish." It's such a wonderful idea and it's so crazy that it really worked. It was a bit of a rip off but that's where I got the idea.

[@jarnojuhani8942]

Whisperings means rumors without open letters...

[@erinfilbert9462]

Tuomas is our generation's Mozart. No one expected this, not even him.

[@bocatampere]

Love it that you really did your research. Much respect. Greets from Finland 🇫🇮🤘❤️

[@terrytheukdude9402]

Hey Lanae, THANK YOU, We have followed this band for 26 years now, My wife and I, were at this Amazing 2015 Wembley Area show, we were 8 rows from the front, We have seen this song reviewed many times now, and yours's is one of the best we have ever seen, Because you did your homework, and that makes all the difference, to understanding this masterpiece, And the Fact that you love Nightwish Band, and you took the time to research it properly, We can ALL see that, this band will be in your heart now forever, Lady You Rock, Thank You so much, and many more please. ♥

[@TonkaF1]

Mate, I am so envious of you for getting to experience that show.

[@scottclark3761]

Empathica. Empathy. A land of Empathy. Heaven, perhaps, depending on your perspective. Yes, Emmpu and Marko both check in on Tuomas. It wasn't easy on any of them. The slice was at three minutes after "three minutes and counting". Tuomas symbolically unalived himself so he wouldn't do it for real.....which we are infinitely grateful he didn't. Don't worry about the difficulties....it's a part of live reactions.

[@ruma9687]

Origins in the Dark Tower Saga, the same one where 7 days from the wolves draws from, which i guess you knew already

[@MilaMan]

Try 'Walking In The Air', Tarja era. I love in that live song how Jukka drums that double beat at the end. And of course the song is beautiful and great ❤🥁

[@luisnaranjovillegas4169]

Great Reaction!!! Congratulations!!! You're The BEST.. KEEP ON IN THIS JOURNEY!!!

[@ChristianSander1969]

Great reaction !! Try "7 Days To The Wolves" or "Greatest Show On Earth" both from Wembley 2015.. For Floor solo stuff, try "Alone" or "Let It Go" from her home studio during Covid lockdowns..

[@craigbolton5093]

The moment when Floor became our warrior goddess mother

[@RichFrye]

I maintain that Tuomas only brought this song back for a few shows was to give Floor the chance to do it justice and bring it to life as only she can

[@davidwestwater5900]

@@RichFrye without a doubt......

[@kimfabritiusdetengnagel2038]

​@@RichFryeI believe you are 200 % right. This song deserves Floor - she is the only one who can do it justice.

[@sandorgyorki7436]

Dead Boy's Poem!! It's worth a listen! ;)

[@gilsorger6548]

"Slow love slow" and "Scaretale" are two great songs by Annete.

[@christoneymobile]

But Scaretale is the quintessential Nightwish "Halloween" song... Do you think she can wait FOUR months?

[@elvwood]

If you really want live, then yes I agree, and they are certainly up there - but my absolute favourite is _Meadows_ _of_ _Heaven._

[@yerviniansamvel]

Scarytale yes but with Floor

[@elvwood]

@@yerviniansamvel For me, Floor just doesn't have the witchy voice it needs.

[@deanabennett8461]

​​@@elvwoodSame on Meadows of Heaven!

[@athlonen]

First, to your question about pendulums and Dark Passion Play. This song is the first on Dark Passion Play, so Tuomas let’s his response out to the fans right at the start. Second, the White Lands of Empathica refers to a place in the Darkover Novel series, by Stephen King. As for the format of the song, keep in mind that this song starts at the end.. literally. Tuomas is dead. Then you go through everything in retrospect, starting with letting Tarja go (hence,the widowed writer). He tries writing a song, but it sounds like the old Nightwish, with Tarja; but she’s gone, and he hates what he had to do, but it had to be done. With the 3 minutes, you caught it well. The blades kept lowering, just like in the Pit and the Pendulum, killing the person. In this case, Tuomas wrote in and composed his own death in 3 minutes, including his own eulogy. Only the words of his parents kept him going and that he could find new things to be his muse instead of a person.. hence, the dawning of a new Nightwish… The Beginning.

[@HCH944]

Ya in......definitly.......welcome to the Army !!!!

[@alantidwell7889]

Yes, that is the "new" drummer, Kai Hahto from the group Wintersun. He joined the band in 2014 and was made permanent in 2019 when Jukka Nevalainen decided not to return to playing with the band. The "new" bassist, Jukka Koskinen also joined from Wintersun in 2021 and became permanent in 2022. You can apologize for technical difficulties if you feel the need; but you never have to apologize for pausing to react on a music reaction channel. Keep up the good work.

[@alnorwood134]

It has been said before that Jukka is a pile driver, Kai is a metronome. It is truly an apt description!

[@jarimiettinen779]

Kai taught to Jukka how to play drum techniques (some techniques). Kai also knew Nightwish's groups for a long time and was a drum technician in Nightwish. Kai and Jukka are also good friends.

[@M11969]

Every singer of Nightwish has their own unique style and are very good. Floor is my favorite because as you noted, she's a perfect blend of the best of the previous two.

[@TonkaF1]

I agree wholeheartedly. I also feel that your favourite singer is the singer that was in the band when you first discovered them. For me, it will alwabe Floor, what a powerful voice, energy and style

[@jarnojuhani8942]

Next dead poys poem. Read the backstory with it also 😍 had to take a tattoo because of the song .. boy on his knees... ❤️

[@vogel2280]

My favorite lyric: "search for beauty, find your shore" with Floor and Marko harmonizing. That part is so soothing and powerful, it should be mandatory for all people going trough a trauma to listen to it.

[@HandleyR]

That part always gives me chills.

[@SYNtemp]

That one's worth a life-long motto... +"try to save them all, bleed no more"... for me that means you (he) still after all that happened care for all the people around, possibly more than for himself...

[@boj99]

I love that moment and the harmony. Always bring tears in my eyes. SO BEAUTIFUL 😍😍❤️❤️

[@jarnojuhani8942]

Imagine how hard this was for Floor because she knew how important this is.. well, she is the queen and nailet this.

[@eviltwin2322]

Another good one from Wembley is Seven Days to the Wolves. That one could be a Bond theme! I'd also recommend Marko and Tarja's Left on Mars. Also, there's a new-ish band called Nocturna that are pretty good. I'd particularly suggest their songs New Evil, Daughters of the Night and The Sorrow Path.

[@davestubbs7274]

Each time she sang "The blade will keep on descending" your lamp fell over.....spooky😳

[@lanaeshonestopinion]

Dude I was freaked out!

[@Sharky762]

For sure

[@omarfernandez1620]

Yes this song is from Dark Passion Play Album and i´m glad you notive the sing alone part of Thoumas, try the Siren if you love Tarja´s song or Wishmaster!

[@robingelebal8447]

A rollercoaster 'everything-in-it' song, boasting with emotional moments.

[@Ayerstairs]

Love that scary warrior face that Floor flashed right before her windmill. Powerful.

[@ecbftl]

I love how Floor looks in Mother and Father sitting in front of the drum set. Her face and expressions singing in the blue light is gorgeous.

[@jessicakoster2543]

On one hand I love it and on the ther hand, Floor and the band are all together, like a tight knit unit. And then there's Tuomas, separated from the band and all alone.

[@tuuli4002]

Thank you! This is a song that I just can't listen too often. It's just so emotional.... it requires a certain mindset from me. If you want to hear more Anette, at some point, very underrated song from NW with her as the vocalist is the Escapist. I don’t think that Floor ever sang that one. It's a crime that it's not a bigger hit. Another great song with Anette is the Crow, the Owl and the Dove. One of my all time favourite ballads from NW🥰🥰 So beautiful with beautiful lyrics.

[@ruangsakanuwatwimon7843]

Not sure "the Crow, the Owl and the Dove" have version Floor sing? never found from KZbin but perhaps in small concert ?

[@tuuli4002]

@@ruangsakanuwatwimon7843 I think there is a version of Floor singing it, but the quality is not that good

[@ruangsakanuwatwimon7843]

@@tuuli4002 Thank you , That's kind of strange during COVID 19 pandemic I try to find but not success just now can see Nightwish - The Crow, the Owl and the Dove (with Floor Jansen) | Live in Rio de Janeiro, 10 12 2012

[@tuuli4002]

@@ruangsakanuwatwimon7843 You're welcome!

[@kentk2215]

My favorite Nightwish song and performance ever. One of only 20 ever done with Floor. One of my favorite songs ever. Tuomas’ magnum opus in my opinion. So powerful musically and lyrically. The final movement one of the most beautiful things I’ve ever heard. You did it right! And… it gets better and better every time you listen. Thanks!

[@nardj.5277]

Great reaction, Lanea. You built up real suspension, so I also freaked out when the light fell off. 😵‍💫

[@jeffreyphipps1507]

You did extremely well! Most people don't do the research and miss SO much. It's so refreshing to see a good reaction to this song. The NW army protects this song because it's about our beloved Tuomas. It also affects us as much. When It is poorly reacted to, we often feel let down. Yes, new drummer Kai (chosen replacement by former drummer Jukka). At the end you see the band members of 2005 that are still on stage (Jukka couldn't be drummer anymore, so he runs administrative tasks for the band). Anette was in a custody hear before she was fired and lost on the day of a gig. Between being upset over her loss, she got increasingly emotional while singing this song. About halfway through, she lost it and ran crying from the stage. Yes to the blade being on the Dark Passion Play album cover. The blade would later be used on another song where it hadn't been used before. There's a Tarja era song called "Slaying the Dreamer". In 2018 in Buenos Aires, NW had Floor sing the song and it was *awesome!* - I love Tarja for various reasons (I loved "Nightquest" with her voice because it sounded especially fantasy). I've heard this song so many times that I've lost count. I cry every time.

[@tasminoben686]

Danke für das tolle Reaction Video! Dieser Song ist immer wieder eine emotionale Reise!❤

[@rnowak85]

Lovely reaction! Glad to see that your research paid off and that you really connected to this song. This is Tuomas's most personal and emotional song. It is also very personal and emotional for most fans. He wrote this song as way of expressing and exploring all of the emotions of his depression and grief. Remember that Tuomas often uses the poet in his lyrics to reference himself and yes, he does have a great affinity for the ocean. He sees it as a place of refugee. The White Lands of Empathica are from Steven King's Dart Tower series (Tuomas is a big fan). The White Lands of Empathica are a snowy tundra where there are emotional vampires who live off the emotions of others. The song starts with "The End" signifying the end of the first version of Nightwish. It ends with "The Beginning" signifying the start of a new version of Nightwish. Home in the first section I thinks represents that desire for a depressed person to find a place of refuge and safety. Home for many of us is just that. One last perfect verse but still the same old song." For me this is Tuomas saying I have nothing new to write for my so called fans, which is like death for a poet like him. You got the part in the Pacific where Floor sings "Tuck me in beneath the Blue" meaning a return to the Ocean. The previous verse "The Ever Free" lets us know that the Ocean represents peace, freedom, and beauty. All things he is seeking to get away from the pain of his real life. " A thousand pages of erased text" represents all the songs that Tuomas would have wrote for Tarja but now would never be heard. At the three minute mark from the "I have three minutes and countig" the blade falls (Tuomas making the slashing motion across his neck). The heart beat slows and finally stops mid beat. The original version of Nightwish is dead. The last part of the song, Mother and Father, gets me every time. The lyrics are actual words spoken by his parents during the depths of his depression. Floor perfectly channeling the anguish of a mother who has lost her child. Then the words, In the Beginning, signaling the birth of a new version of Nightwish. I know I have said it in previous comments but it bears repeating, highly recommend you read the analysis of this song by the artist Annike Hausen. IMO it is a brilliant, master's level analysis and I think you would really enjoy it. I would provide a link but every time I do the YT algorithms delete my comment. Just google her name and Poet and the Pendulum. ". For me this is Nightwish's greatest song. Their Magnum Opus. Tuomas pouring out his heart and anguish in the music and lyrics. Floor perfectly channeling the anger and pain. It fills me with emotion and lets me connect to Tuomas in a profound way. This song is no longer performed live. Tuomas has said they (him, Empuu, and at the time Marko) are not those people anymore and they have moved on. Performing it just takes Tuomas back to that difficult place emotionally. Emppu and Marko come over and check in on Tuomas through out the song to make sure he is ok emotionally. Tuomas often would have the sound engineers turn off the vocal feed in his in ears because it would make him too emotional. I am so grateful that he chose to write this song and share this part of himself with us. Everything about this song and performance is about making us feel his emotions. Great job!

[@Ieeho98]

Nice Reaction! Wembley 2015? That's easy! The opening song, "Shudder before the Beautiful."

[@NickBR57]

My no 1 song. A masterpiece. Accumulated notes follow... This is a 5-part journey through the emotional turmoil following Tarja's departure. As the founder and guiding light of the band, Tuomas' took much of the flak from those who claimed to be Nightwish fans but we're actually obsessed with Tarja and thought she WAS Nightwish - an idea that the subsequent growth and improvement of the band comprehensively demolished. Indeed there are still people today who call the "Tarjawish" in some vain attempt to make Tarja something she wasn't. (Don't get me wrong, Tarja can be fantastic, but Nightwish is about Tuomas' and his compositions. We are fortunate he now has Floor to exhibit his works.) The parts are: 1. White Lands of Empathica (The End) - the end of a band as well know it. Later to become known as the "End of an Era" 2. Home - the breakup of the band and the wish to find a place, home, to go to and get away from the madness of those who hated. Of course, there is a lot more in here too. 3. The Pacific - as usual, Tuomas' needs to reference the oceans, one of his "grounding" themes. His love of the ocean metaphor is well-docunented. He did, of course, originally dream of becoming a marine biologist. Strange that he should have a gnat named after him! 4. Dark Passion Play - the hate of Tarja fans led him into deep depression. However the band were not in good places so he didn't feel he could "cry on their shoulders" so in the end he went back to see his 5. - Mother and Father (and The Beginning) - the lyrics here reflect what his mother said to him at that time. The beginning of a new era and new line-up BTW, they are not hanging out having a chat as such - see later. Tuomas refers to the ocean frequently - the second album is called Oceanborn, Dead Boys Poem ends with reference to ocean soul and Devil and the Deep Dark Ocean ends with lyrics about setting the dolphins free and "we shall wash the darkened blood red sea, our voices shall echo over the mountains and seas". Tuomas is a very special person and this is, for me, the pinnacle of his work. Nothing surpasses it. For him it is one of the deepest songs. Quotes from the band on the making of the album and the song... TUOMAS: We will never play "Bye Bye Beautiful" or "Master Passion Greed" live again, [sic] because the lyrics are just too unambiguous and personal. There was at least as much gloom behind "The Poet and the Pendulum", too, but it leaves a bit more room for interpretation. It's easily one of our best songs but especially, the "Mother and Father'" part in the end always stirs up such a storm of emotions that it's impossible for me to do it every night. Playing "The Poet and the Pendulum' is a real rollercoaster ride - it makes me feel anxious, blush, laugh, and, in the end, just happy that that part of my life is behind me. My notes: My number 1 Nightwish song and for good reasons. (No 2, Song of Myself, No 3 7 Days to the Wolves.) This is a deeply emotional and meaningful song with which I empathise and it helped me to see that there was a way forward when depression struck. I am not alone in being "saved" by Nightwish, a fact that Tuomas has referred to and said he could not terminate the band because he knows they have meant so much to some fans who feel their lives have been saved by Nightwish. He feels that he has a responsibility to the fans - not your standard rock musician then. Floor is worth watching closely, her facial, hand and whole-body motions reflect the emotions she is portraying. Hands in Mother and Father for example. Tearing her hair in the Dark Passion Play section. Note that when Tuomas talks about "Poet" he is always referencing himself. It happens throughout his ouvre. You will see other cross-references too. Tuomas does that deliberately to give the fans a sort of anchor. Meadows of Heaven is another example - a song in itself and often referenced. For what it's worth, here are are my thoughts and interpretations... End to beginning - death of one era of the band, beginning of a new era. Regarding the end of the first Era, I see no point in the blame game. The band split, that is all we need to know. Whatever the causes there was bound to be emotion on both sides so I leave it at that. But this masterpiece is what came out of Tuomas' emotions. The beginning is a boy soprano, Guy Elliott who also does the spoken parts. The whispering at the beginning is the central spoken section, but played in reverse. Then we get the whole section "Home". I see the "shoulder cries more" as having no shoulder to cry on because the other members of the band - his friends - were equally upset. The "whore for the cold world" I see as the selling of his whole life to the music industry (the metaphorical pimps, hence the "whore" references) which is not interested in the person, only what they can get from the band. The two faces bit is self explanatory; almost everyone will have been in situations where they have to hide their feelings and present a false front to the world. The reference to betrayal is again obvious and there are lots of metaphors in the surrounding words. The altar I think, is the tie to the band - these upheavals in 2004/5 were not the first time Tuomas had felt like ending the band. By the way, note the 3 minutes and counting: exactly 3 minutes later you get the guillotine motion. By the way, Marco made the demo version of this, with all the lyrics sung by himself and with harsher lyrics at this point too. Next we get to the Mother and Father section with Floor, Marco and Emppu all sitting, while Floor sings lyrics reflecting the words from his mother when he went back home for a break in the middle of all this turmoil. These are the words of love and then of advice, that he was given. Floor here is using her finger movements to accentuate emotion. This whole section and the way Floor sings it, is packed with those damned Onion Ninjas. Marco's harmonies are wonderful. We end with the final ethereal notes from Floor and here is another tingle-factor moment. Then a gentle piano ending, the calm after the emotional storm. Here, as in Sparkle my Scenery, the choir on the original album is replaced by Floor who wanted to sing them herself (and proved completely capable of it) which Anette could not have done - she could probably get the notes but the emotion is there in the choral original and is amplified when Floor sings it. The low brass used in many places is really effective. On the performance itself: When Emppu goes over to Tuomas and later both Marco and Emppu go over, it is a sign of moral support. They both know how difficult this is for him - eventually he had the vocals turned off in his in-ear, so he didn't have to listen to them because Floor put such emotion into them. At the end, she does not say "Thank you" immediately, as she does normally. Instead she looks over for a few seconds to check on him from her position. BTW, I have never bought the theory that Tuomas was "in love" with Tarja. Those who say he asked her to join the band because he knew her from school - she was suggested by Emppu who had known her as an acquaintance at school. Empathica: from the Dark Tower... "Empathica, also known as the White Lands of Empathica, is a snowy tundra located in End-World. The residents of Empathica are known for their abilities to empathize and share other people's emotions"

[@tomdog78]

Im 65 years old and i cry every time. God damn onion ninjas out here in my shed. 😢✌️

[@bramilan]

This song is truly amazing. But I'm not impressed by being sorry for Thuomas. The guy has fired Tarja, in the middle of a tour, with an open letter so that anyone can read it, and in this song, he is felling sorry… for himself! Come on, this is a huge megalomania and hypocrisy by him.

[@ilbrnb22]

I agree wholeheartedly you have problems within a band you sit down and you say look Tarja, this isn't working out we want to move on we wish you the best and that's it you don't announce it to the whole world like he did that was Bush League JMO

[@mariogansbeke]

Respect Lanae, sublime reaction, you're a smart cookie and a good observer.

[@marcoheinrich9518]

When the rest of the band joins Tuomas in the end, it also means that Floor remains absolutely alone on stage. Just when she sings her mourning notes. The suffering of a mother after the suicide of her child. (just my take on this)

[@garyjohnson2943]

You must watch Oblivian cover.

[@Neonbob]

The story is in reverse. The end of the song is the beginning. And the beginning is the end. Hope that makes sense💞🤘

[@robertsheeler321]

The Poet and the Pendulum is the song about there 1st singer Tarja Turnunen getting fired in 2005 , here's my interpretation of it - The Poet and the Pendulum was written after firing Tarja the original singer. She was the face of Nightwish at the time, and Tuomas (Keyboards) wrote this and considered her a muse to many of the songs he had written at that point. They had also grown up in the same city and knew each other since early childhood. Some say Tuomas was in love with her but only Tuomas knows that for sure . All the band members decided together to fire her for acting too much of a diva And her husband & Manager was stepping way outta bounds concerning the band business He always wanted more money , only big paying show but the band did it for the love of music and there fans . According to all the band members, Tarja was missing lots of rehearsals and would not even travel with the band anymore. Tuomas was painted as the devil by many fans, and went through a deep depression. He even considered ending the band . He wrote The Poet and the Pendulum at that time, and actually kills himself in the song. He said he killed himself in the song at the 10:00 time stamp , as to kill the pain he was going through . To this day every time he plays it, it takes him back to those feelings, and shows on his face. In the last part, Mother and Father, words are said to him that his real mother said to him at that time of his deep depression. One part that touches me at the end when the guitarist Emppu and bassist Marko, the only other two involved with firing Tarja (that were still active with the band at the time of this show )were standing with Tuomas at the end in solidarity and love., NOTE : the 1st two words are (The End) and the last two words are (The Beginning) representing the end of the 1st era of Nightwish and the beginning of the next era kzbin.info/www/bejne/hGW5l6xrrqisY8U&pp=ygUZdGhlIHBvZXQgYW5kIHRoZSBwZW5kdWx1bQ%3D%3D.. NOTE : then came Annette Olzen in 2007 so the world tour started and 6 months into the tour there became problems with her so the show in Denver Colorado in 2012 she supposedly became sick while the band was about to take stage and what happened next has never happened before this is a documentary called (The Denver Debacle) - kzbin.info/www/bejne/sHmWZKWErphmn7c&pp=ygUSdGhlIGRlbnZlciBkZWJhY2xl NOTE : Then right after that came ( Learn the setlist in 48hrs ) this is how they called Floor to fill in and help them finish the world tour because the cut ties with Anette and knew Floor was the only women that could possibly help them for the next year of touring . It did not take long for them to realize that Floor is the one . NOTE this is over 2 hours long - kzbin.info/www/bejne/rJmoqZ6jjLCAe7c&pp=ygUSdGhlIGRlbnZlciBkZWJhY2xl

[@esttelavidalinarolonmontie5431]

No exactamente y el mismo Tuomas afirma que la carta fue un error y no todo lo que estaba allí era real estaba escrita desde el lado del dolor y odio sumándole infantileria el mismo Tuomas lo dice en algunas entrevistas no se queden concluyendo todo a base de la carta de hecho Tarja lo responde justamente con una canción llamada Diva y Marco vuelve a sacar a la luz este año la disputa gerencial entre Tarja y Tuomas osea en pocas palabras la carta solo fue escrita por despecho el mismo Tuomas dice que fue un error busquen las entrevistas aquí en KZbin encontrarán fácilmente 😌

[@normmcinnis4102]

Tuomas and Emppu are Nightwish. The two originals.

[@ciskavandevijver2355]

All credits for your reaction.. thank you for that.. The Nightwish Army embrace you. greets from the NW Army in the Netherlands.

[@luvyuyu84]

I would love to see your reaction to their documentary 'The day before tomorrow' it shows the tension between Tuomas and Tarja before the last show they had together. Also if you want one of the best shows, watch the DVD 'from wishes to eternity', the chemestery between Tarja and the band was so beautiful. I love that show. Love your reactions, keep up Nightwish journey. I've been a fan for them since I was 15 and I'm 39 now, loving every song from this amazing band, I'm so happy to see new people getting into their music

[@davestubbs7274]

Another excellent reaction 😊👍

[@gabriel.bardac]

Hi, Lanae. Beautiful and emotional reaction. It was the first reaction I saw this morning, the others had to wait, because I had to run to work. This is the reason why I have not commented until now. You went through the band's darkest period in the last few days, which almost destroyed them. Looking back, with the experience of another age, I am more and more convinced that the band members had to keep the breakup with Tarja private, even if they felt entitled to fire her. I saw a short recent interview with Marco, who reunited with Tarja in 2024 and they did a short tour in Europe together. Tarja was forced to rebuild her career in Argentina, her husband's homeland, because of this media scandal in 2005. As you can understand of course from this performance, it was not easy for the band either. All these negative consequences could be avoided with a little discretion.

[@MycontentisgoldJerryGold]

A good comparison song is "Gethsemane". One version is with Tarja when everyone was super young and looking like teens. Another is from just a few years ago with Floor. The song itself is a lot proggy-er than usual for Nightwish.

[@AntaryDraconis]

👏 well done ! Thank you. Great understanding (research and Info from NW-Army was great) A Song that help you, if you are in a bad mode to get over it ! (❤‍🩹) And Tarja is great too (Floor and Tarja are friends; don't understand why some are not good with her personaly .. diffrend song-style (opera) but still great; and Anette was/is great too but the same.. diffrend-Style (pop) and that Compares with the most songs not so great but hey; Thank Anette for keeping NW going till Floor was ready (Burnout)🤘

[@KaiHellmann]

Yes, Emppu check is Tuomas on. Tuomas move his head: ok. In the end Marco check is Tuomas ok. They fired 2005 singer Tarja Turunen (original NW singer). And this was very appressive move for everyone, badest to Tarja. Drummer Jukka Nevalainen (insomnia)ask new drummer Kai Hahto, would y become play on Nighwish. Kai says of cource. They was already very good friends. Both are proffesional drummers…😊

[@randalljones4370]

Lights fall, the Cat Mom is getting misty ... that's when your Medicine Cat showed up. If you have a good one, they can sense when the tears are welling up. Congrats, you made it to the other side. And it doesn't matter how many times you hear it. You will always find things which carry impact, or tug at the heart.

[@Riikka-rn3pn9no9n]

Oh my.❤ This touches my soul every time.🩷 Thank you for yours reaction. 🌹 If you want to hear old song, i would love you to check Tarjas version of Siren.❤ It is one what isn't played so often. But it is soo good.❤️ And Shoemaker by Floor.🔥

[@vogel2280]

You're not too far off. It takes us trough the mind of person with suicidal thoughts. The End 1. White lands of Empatica --> traumatic event 2. Home --> feeling of being uprooted, raging thoughts there is no place for me anymore in this world 3. Pacific --> romanticizing death, how peaceful it would be if you could just be gone 4. Dark passion Play --> more raging thoughts, imagining what would happen in the aftermath of your death 5. Mother and father --> coming to terms with the situation, accepting things are the way they are. The beginning But you should know that with Tuomas 'death' should not be taken literary. Whenever he lives through an event that changes him forever the 'old' Tuomas no longer exists, therefor the 'old' Tuomas is dead. This is the same 'death' as in Dead Boys Poem, he wrote in the aftermath of becoming (extremely) famous 8 years earlier. This is supported that the song ends with "the beginning" In Dead Boys Poem he also describes the enormous pressure he feels to make each album better than the last one: "for years I've been strapped onto this altar"

[@Mars-is4un]

🤗🍒🤘🏻😘 Great great job Lanae, but ........too many stops while you said to pay attention to that!!😢

[@markkukoskinen7721]

If you have to time listening Jukka Nevalainen interview Jukka tells why he not play Drums anymore

[@jeffmcilroy7081]

16:30…I’m waiting for his keyboard to start on fire..lol

[@ArchitectB]

Well, I admit that I was slightly annoyed time to time when you paused in the middle of the phrase or tune. A bit like a c… interruptus, but no worry good reacting anyway 🙂 Maybe it was getting too emotional for you as well. Emotional part never goes away, when watching and listening this. I think this song is thoughts before the suicide, and this mothers letter makes him to change his mind. That’s why the end is first and the beginning comes later, when he decided to continue living and start over. This is of course only How I see it, but I think whispers in the beginning of the song are your thoughts in your head which you don’t catch, because feeling stressed and depressed. Also, I believe those boy sopranos represent the inner child. That’s why their lyrics are the most brutal, because you are often the most judgemental to yourself.

[@brendankelly3063]

You still have to see Troy!!!

[@brendankelly3063]

🤘🤘🤘🤘

[@Rico.at.50]

I saw them perform this in Baltimore during the decades tour. It was magical. I've always believed the 'shoulder' was Tarja, and when he says 'I cannot cry cause the shoulder cries more' is because she was the person he would have gone to in a time of grief and couldn't

[@k.l.7788]

Or she played the victim card and ”cried more” getting all the symphaties.

[@pancentricism]

If you want a good Anette song, I'd heartily recommend listening to Nightwish playing "Slow Love Slow" at the Montreux Jazz Festival in 2012, not least because it shows Tuomas's skill in writing songs that suit the singer's voice.

[@Sharky762]

Great reaction, my dear. Greetings from a small village in The Netherlands

[@evergreendorneymahoning5435]

A side note on the super talented Floor---as she has progressed with the band since October of 2012, there were certain recorded back tracks that used in the live stage presentation of certain songs and, over time, Floor has replaced a lot of those recordings with her own voice as she certainly \has the ability to do them live - as an example, the very last siren style vocals of this song is something that Floor replaced the recording with her live vocals - she even offered to Tuomas to do the really high entrance vocal that was recorded with a young choir boy but Tuomas said "that isn't necessary"

[@liinukka3109]

Oh my, you did a very good reaction🎉🤘💖😍. Thf for it

[@roy19491]

opening "White Lands of Empathica" sung by a child soprano.....Empathica is a snowy tundra in End-World, from the novels; the Dark Tower; a Steven King multiverse......note that the swinging pendulum blades are knife edged.....congratulations; you picked up on quite a few of the major points of the song.....by the way, they no longer perform this song live; Tuomas stating that, the wounds have healed, everyone has matured, and everyone has moved on........

[@immune85]

Don't apologize for doing things your way. If someone doesn't like it, it's their problem. And I agree, that's exactly what it's about. Rock on, girl! 🤘

[@zag7165]

The natural energy in the room for you was what brought that light down. There's still magic out there. It's how you choose to define it.

[@PhilH919]

Why don't reviewers take the advice of the people who know. This performance has natural pause points. Even if you don't know it they are obvious.

[@frankmerris8821]

i made it to about the 12 minute mark

[@jamesstaplesv]

perect musical rendition for passing through the 5 stages og grief, ; 10,000 listens, I wrap my head in beachtowels .

[@Rancid-Jane]

20:36 to 20:45 the drum mimicking his last tree and a half beats. He is dead!

[@jarnojuhani8942]

🔥💪🔥💪🔥❤️❤️❤️❤️

[@jimharris367]

Wonderful reaction Lanae, you really did justice to this masterpiece 👏

[@YoJimBo851610]

In an interview Tuomas said whenever they performed this song he had the lyrics cut out of his monitors because the song was so painful. Also this is the last time they performed this song and will never (can never) do it again. Tuomas has moved on from this point in his life.

[@greygreen5610]

your very perceptive, you pick up on things most miss

[@bobgamble8204]

Please never listen to Annette live, it will make your ears bleed, and not in a good way!

[@PaulSmith-pt3zu]

It’s exciting to see another person taking the time to do much research prior to watching this video. It really does help to get the jist of this masterpiece. When I first listened to this song I too picked up on the lyrics of “I the whore for the cold world, forgive me, I have but 2 faces one for the world, one for god save me….. going thru depression as Tuomas had done. I too am a suffer and those lyrics are completely true to the core. I tear up each time I listen or watch another such as yourself viewing it for the first time. All because I rekindle my emotions towards Tuomas’s roller coaster ride of a song. This song has that deep of an emotional attachment I put a tattoo on my arm of the pendulum and those exact lyrics. To signify my bad state of mind to never go there again. Even though Floor was in the band at that time of the making of this song album. She sure hits hard with her performance and singing to capture every essence the song greatly needs! Long live Nightwish

[@naruto9121983]

i cant listen to the mother and father part without crying

[@elvwood]

Same.

[@Rackelhane]

Well done. You got the most of the song and at first listen. Cheers from a finn in Sweden

[@clivematthews5296]

Of course you saw Empuu smiling, he's playing with Floor who he jokes with and doesn't get stressed. The band dynamic is so much better and Tuomas said that no-one else should perform this after Floor.

[@runkkariruune]

I'm 53 years old crusty Finn, and this song more often than not has too bright lights for me, which causes lacrymation. Thank You for Your reaction!

[@Green-Lyon]

Me EV...ER...Y... Frik-kin' TIME!!!: "Sparkle my scenery... Tuck me in beneath the blue..." 😭

[@sjc9121]

Wembley Arena concert 2015: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hJDNmKyoobSBhsU 1. Shudder Before the Beautiful, 2. Yours Is an Empty Hope, 3. Ever Dream, 4. Storytime, 5. My Walden, 6. While Your Lips Are Still Red 7. Élan, 8. Weak Fantasy (Preceded by a Dawkins' narration), 9. 7 Days to the Wolves, 10. Alpenglow, 11. The Poet and the Pendulum 12. Nemo, 13. I Want My Tears Back, 14. Stargazers, 15. Ghost Love Score, 16. Last Ride of the Day, 17. The Greatest Show on Earth

[@andrewhuggins9008]

Yowzer! That's the best analysis/reaction of/to this performance I've seen, and I've seen ALOT! Love from Eastern England 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 🤘😉

[@deeteenw]

This was the first song Tuomas wrote after the last concert with Tarja and all the turmoil that followed. So I think "The end" is the end of that era and after the things he went through it's the beginning of something new at the end. This song is the bridge between old and new Nightwish.

[@HWaii]

I am always unsure if it is really necessary to do a lot of recherche before listening to this, but I think in your case it was worth it. But the song never fails to bring up emotions, no matter how often you hear it. Maybe now something more recent? "Shoemaker", live at Pinkpop 2022. On this day, Floor performed twice: First she gave a full show as solo artist and a few hours later another one with Nightwish: kzbin.info/www/bejne/r2KpqoWQatpsnLMsi=7I-EC6-HZ7irE_xV BTW: The song is not about a cobbler, but Eugene Shoemaker, whose remains are buried on the moon.

[@sharc419]

1st one

[@robertbrown8576]

Nice comment, genius.

[@johnmc128]

Good one. What's next Dead Boys Poem ?

[@davidellinsworth3299]

Dont know if any comment has mentioned this, but Tuomas asked the sound engineer to cut Floor's vocal track from his earpiece for just this one song. He was worried he'd lose it hearing Floor sing this. You did great on this girl! Well done

[@johan7170]

Congratulations. And thank you. You did that song justice. If you ever want to hear some early "Tarja" Nightwish, I highly recommend you have a look at the 'From Wishes to Eternity' live DVD. It's from 2000, even before Marco joined the band I recommend : She Is My Sin : kzbin.info/www/bejne/f2nRlphsi7Krfq8 Come Cover Me : kzbin.info/www/bejne/en-3gYaPeqekh9E Wanderlust : kzbin.info/www/bejne/iaTWaHV7h9WpjrM Dead Boy's Poem : kzbin.info/www/bejne/hJmkgGiXbtZpqbM (Notice that there's also a 2018 "Floor" version of the song so you might wanna check them back to back... : kzbin.info/www/bejne/iWmoZH9tnMx_g68 )

[@MichaelMikeTheRussianBot]

@24:38 ..Oooooo!!! :0 Your cat looks like "Mr Patches" [My name for him], a neighborhood cat, who is probably the father of my boys, Spilly [ Millard Spillmore] , & Abie C.[Another Brown Cat] . Their mom ["Blue"] , was a stray, so can't be sure. ;) )

[@АлександрКом-ь4ш]

Привет. А ты миленькая, но зубы странные. А Найтвиш нереально афигенная группа, слушаю ее еще с Тарьи.

[@monicacarolina6480]

Yeah, Emppu was checking on him❤ The whole band went threw hell, but Tuomas sheltered the others and took the blame. Whore for the cold world, everybody abusing you without care. btw, Dead boy's poem in Buenos Aires is a beautiful ending of this story. Warning,...TEARS!

[@bridgetmccracken1381]

I do hope you will dive into Tarja's reply songs. Always remember that there are 2 sides to every story

[@esttelavidalinarolonmontie5431]

Para ello es recomendable los primeros álbumes de Tarja y la principal LA CANCIÓN DIVA en respuesta a la carta abierta recomiendo los videos oficiales especialmente de I Wak Alone no solo en las letras cuenta la historia sino también en el video solo imaginate en un mundo de fantasías ,cuentos y encantos después todo es más fácil los en vivos de Tarja son geniales porque le dan un plus diferente no suena igual que la grabación de Estudio es diferente esas respuestas son muy duras porque habla desde el lado de la decepción 😔

[@damienmaynard8892]

Whispers - what? exactly! "Just because I'm paranoid, doesn't mean they're NOT out to get me!" Guy Elliott was the boy soprano at the start - from St Mary's Choir School, Reigate UK. Big react by the crowd - not played often! Exactly the right version! Tuomas looked out of the window on the plane home after the split - the blue pacific ocean....... "on the shore beneath the same pale moon" .... moonlit waters - like in GLS? Kai Hahto on drums here - Jukka's drum-tech and sometimes teacher earlier! Marko - just a taste of the demo I told you about! Emppu's grin just before he starts!!!? "This is the metal part!" .... Yes, Tuomas did go home to mum and dad and big brother - he quotes or paraphrases his mother and father in the lyrics.. So glad Tuomas chose this way, in such a gorgeous Opus, rather than reality! WE NEED HIS MUSIC! (Physically the co-ordination needed for the keyboard part near the end is not easy! I tried! Never as good as Tuomas.) You did GREAT! edit: suggestion kzbin.info/www/bejne/gp6YgXaaaL-Jlbs

[@ste-fan-of-Floor]

You can cry again whith the most emotional song for FLOOR, song writing whith his first band AfterForever , this song " strong" IS talk about his health of his mother, everytime i hear this song i cry , and FLOOR too . ❤ Always FLOOR EVER .

[@eddiehesselman3904]

Excellent reaction💓 Please do A Dead Boy's Poem, Live Buenos Aires. Kind regards from the Netherlands ❤

[@Greyhound53200]

Bravo Lanae and thank you so much for doing this song justice! You came well prepared and I felt delighted that your final first reaction was gratitude towards those of us who recommended you to do research before reacting to this masterpiece. I have seen reactors going in completely blind and doing well but also an equal number of them expecting a hardcore Nightwish song and reacting accordingly only to realize along the performance that they were making fools of themselves. You definitely noticed that the song is much more about the aftermath of firing Tarja in stead of the firing itself. My favorite lyrics line is in the 'Mother and Father' segment: 'The Blade will keep on descending'. My interpretation is 'Be aware that whatever you do there will always be criticism'. A bit about the 'new' drummer. His name is Kai Hahto. He is good friends with Jukka Nevalainen who introduced him as his preferred successor. Kai also is drummer in the Finnish hard metal band Wintersun. You know what? You already saw him when you reacted to 'The Greatest Show on Earth'. Both 'Poet and Pendulum' and 'Greatest Show on Earth' are from the same Wembley 2015 Live performance. Imagine having witnessed 'The Big Three' (including 'Ghost Love Score') in one and the same concert! An exhilarating and in this case rather unique experience because The Poet was a unique live performance. Apart from the album version (Dark Passion play 2007, first song of the album) sung by Annette I could not find any other registered live performances except from the Wembley 2015 one. My guess is that Tuomas wanted the song performed live at least once and he knew that Floor could do it. It was very tough on him however and he seems to have stated in interviews that he had his sound engineer mute his in-ears for some vocal parts. The song is not on their set list anymore and most likely never will be performed live again. As Tuomas stated 'I don't live in that world anymore'. Thanks again for your heartfelt reaction, Lanae. I have been looking forward to it anxiously and it surpassed my expectations by far. Wishing you all the best and sending you kind regards from the Dutch Mountains.

[@Razor2k3]

One of the best Tarja songs - The Siren, or Koulemma Tekke Tajtellian. If you would like to see some take upon Nightwish view over praising Native Americans - Stone people and Creek Mary Blood.