Why the Ruins of this N.Y. tower were moved to Indiana - IT'S HISTORY

[@KabukeeJo]

Sad that so many of these buildings are long gone and replaced by glass towers.

[@DaveSCameron]

I agree I'm English but watching the continuous architecture revolution is incredible. 🙏

[@billynomates920]

@@DaveSCameron fancy seeing you here! 🙂

[@jordanplays-transitandgame1690]

The Glass towers like the WTC look better

[@Jason-rn4jk]

Glass is good. Stone cracks, metal rusts, but glass….glass lasts forever.

[@KabukeeJo]

@@Jason-rn4jk Not if that glass tower is a poorly designed eyesore. Also, glass also cracks, shatters and turns into dust. It is not as forever as you think.

[@TurtleDude05]

I've seen those statues in person quite a few times, as they're not far from my home. So it's neat to see some local history talked about on here. Thanks. 👍

[@OuterGalaxyLounge]

I feel like I can walk right into this era of New York with these videos. The earliest skyscrapers or lower-rise architecture in my town that were built during this same era are all gone. I witnessed the disgusting demolition of the red-marble Louisville Board of Trade building in 1975 and the majestic carved stones were just thrown in a weedy junkyard despite the city's broken promises to reuse them respectfully.

[@FrankVannier]

As a Louisvillian also, it's quite shocking for me to look at photographs and such and imagine once was. How Louisville's downtown was once densely packed full of grandiose architectural treasures from tall to small. And then in just a matter of years in the city's history, heavily leveled and replaced with urban renewal eyesores, including the innumerable surface parking lots, that haunt the streets to this day. I do think it's great though that in recent years more people are appreciative of local history, and also the recent fantastic world-class preservation projects in our region such as the French Lick Springs resort.

[@baronvonlimbourgh1716]

​@@FrankVannierthat is a faith most of the usa's cities suffered. Most american cities now look like european cities at the end of ww2. Most look like cities that where bombed extensivly and nobody bothered to rebuild anything.

[@barclayjb]

I have enjoyed the remains of St. Paul's since the late 70's as a subject for my photography as a teenager in Indianapolis. Thanks for telling much more of the story. My mom even posed for art paintings for Elmer Taftlinger. History is sometimes closer than you think.

[@taylord6566]

I love your content! it's hard to find things that keep my attention these days, but this channel keeps my attention from beginning to end every time. I appreciate your work, good sir.

[@arduous1914]

It’s so nice to learn about old forgotten skyscrapers!!!

[@DaveSCameron]

Fantastic #ourhistory

[@douglasmclean2802]

Thanks for the detailed background on the Holliday Park ruins! I've seen these a few times, living near Indy. I had heard they were from a building in NYC, but had no idea about the specifics behind them. Well done as always!

[@smallberries]

Watching this I realize that I used to work in the building that now occupies this exact location on Broadway between Ann and Fulton streets. So cool! Great video.

[@RobertoLopezstudyis]

I read about this historic skyscraper and the part that was saved from a book that I bought and read in the summer of 2003 about the history of the financial district of New York City! Your videos are very educational and informative. Thank you.

[@stanleyrucci21]

You must be the hardest working KZbinr in the world! Quality everytime! Thank You

[@katsumiskytower8714]

this has quickly shot up my personal list of best youtube channels! love your content!

[@DaveSCameron]

This is a wonderful upload and it looks like I've discovered another jewel here? 🙏 Thank you so much from Dave, Liverpool (Links with NYC 🗽 is eternal :-))

[@robertreisner8132]

I greatly appreciate your shows. Thank you very much.

[@garyjones2582]

Ryan could you do a video on the most beautiful bldgs in America that have been destroyed for one reason or another.. Thx for taking us along on another great video...

[@dwi2921]

9:55-11:02 really stood out to me. Seems Post was a man of both principle and healthy ambition. Imo he was right. Especially in the modern era with our truly hideous modern architecture.

[@Novusod]

You should do a video on the Park row building mentioned in this video or the Whitehall building which can be seen at the left of the screen at 3:40 .

[@johnr3603]

One of our cities best parks, go there often ,statues recently freshened up - look great !

[@concernednewfie]

Another excellent video, wish there was a way to shut off the background music though. I went through my browsers to see if another tab was playing.

[@MichaelKrischMedia]

Awesome. I live by Holliday Park and have always wondered about the ruins.

[@hollidaypark-indianapolis9815]

The Ruins at Holliday Park were refurbished in 2016 thanks to a $3.2 million dollar capital campaign led by the nonprofit organization, Friends of Holliday Park. Over 2,000 donors contributed to the project, and upon completion The Ruins at Holliday Park received the highest honor at the Indy Chamber’s 2018 Monumental Awards ceremony. This award honors the most significant achievements by individuals and businesses that contribute to excellence in architecture, interior design, landscape architecture, construction, real estate development, neighborhood revitalization, engineering, innovative reuse and public art throughout the Indianapolis region. Over 350,000 people visit Holliday Park each year to enjoy this piece of history.

[@dailydoseofsunshine2319]

Thats great and all but the building really should be rebuilt

[@rjmidwest6911]

I live near the park and have heard about their history but it's nice to see it in video form.

[@benp-ir5zt]

Same! I saw that and thought, "Hey! It's holiday park!"

[@bluesphreak]

Wow, I had no idea that a monument to a former historic New York building was in my area. I’ll be sure to check it out and imagine standing on Broadway looking up at it.

[@Wanamaker1946]

This was excellent. To think, all these (beaux art) buildings were all machine carved and hand chased for the details. Those three male statues were totally hand carved. The columns were turned on an huge lath for their antithesis, (that very slight belch curve an true Greek and Roman column has. Then the fluting vertical fluting was done last using a gigantic router. In this case, Indiana limestone was employed. Here are all the standard North American stone used to create these buildings. -Amherst Variegated Buff -Holmsburg Granite-Pennsylvania -Vermont Marble -Indiana Limestone -Kentucky Limestone -Montana Sandstone - Cane Stone from France -variegated and striae marbles from Italy and France. -

[@tunny79]

Good stuff, cheers

[@zyaayz]

Thank you

[@Mike-tg7dj]

The structures they are throwing up here in my city are horrendous. The Saint Paul is sort of scary to think that it wasn't on bedrock. Can you imagine what would have happened if an earthquake hit NYC? That sand would have liquified.

[@mmhoss]

Much of the city is built on naturally compacted sand. Earthquakes are the least of our worries here.

[@chdreturns]

@@mmhoss Thats the type of stuff that liquifies.

[@craigjensen6853]

Yeah, Indy has some pretty cool ruins. You should check out Circle Centre Mall sometime.

[@andreweden9405]

I was going to suggest that you do a video about this building when you did the one about the Pulitzer/World Building! I'm from Indianapolis, so this has a lot of nostalgia for me, thank you!

[@ridleyscurry2480]

Mr. George B. Post's mustache has it's own engineering degree

[@craigjensen6853]

I think there's an entire engineering school in that thing.

[@jimmoore9239]

How about Karl Bitter's epic womb broom?

[@michaelmckinnon7314]

It would be interesting to model all of the buildings lost to Progress on a model railroad because it would make a really interesting layout and it was always my hope to build that layout as a fantasy setting rather than an actual location

[@johnhillside9105]

Yes, we have this statuary at Holliday Park, Indianapolis, Indiana. The structures are there today. I read that these landscape furnishings came from New York City,... but I had not read the details until now. Let me add, I'm a lifelong resident of Indianapolis and the Holliday Park is less than a mile from my 🏡 home. I think that the park is noteworthy because of, 1. White River flowing by on the Holliday Park grounds and the place we know as Broad Ripple. 2. At the river, sits a tall, tall bluff and a grist mill, Spring Mill was a part of history of this, a new city in the mid-west. You know a good flowing river is everything to the settlement's prosperity. So too then, a grain mill, a high bluff, and a small burg alongside a swift current, would be something great in the memory of few who came north from the Ohio River to establish a new State Capitol. Today, there's a place there, nearby Holliday Park, a place of good, well meaning residents, a location at the top of the bluff, which we call Crow's Nest. I think this place was Crow's Nest back when Frontiersman Conner made his way from Fall Creek, heading north, finding the Crow's Nest and then resting at Wellington, soon to be Broad Ripple in the distant future. So, you see why Holliday Park is such a beautiful place for the many here who live here in Indianapolis, Marion County, USA.

[@bobainsworth5057]

In NYC water pressure up to the 6th floor was from gravity of the water coming down from up State. Still is! No pumps needed.

[@luciusvorenus9445]

Indiana has a history with NYC skyscrapers. The Empire State Building's exterior is covered with Indiana limestone. (As is the Pentagon).

[@Nomad5d]

I can't say that it was a beautiful building. On the flip side I live in Indianapolis and have always thought the ruins were very interesting and it was nice to learn more about their origin.

[@mikepierce1724]

This man should have his own channel great wish I had money so can pay

[@Run.Ran.Run1]

Interesting, good images, but I must say the white speckled film effect is distracting.

[@HobbyOrganist]

And those 3 limestone statues which were protected under a cornice on the building facade are slowly being destroyed by direct exposure to rain water, freezing/ice and acid rain, plus all that ivy growing up all over further damages brick and stone. Reminds me of the Collins school in Colorado that had a carved sandstone keystone over the door, it was carved using one of the students as the sitting model said to be the prettiest girl in the school, upon demolition, the keystone which was formerly protected by a large projecting cornice over it was "saved" and dumped into a public park where it sported it's nose broken off, within a very few years the soft stone literally rotted and spalled from the weather until the whole girl's face was gone. They hired a sculptor to carve a a smaller "replica" and the face of the girl that was carved was so poorly and amateurely carved it looked like crap

[@mattkaustickomments]

20:30 Come on, he didn’t go by “Richard”, everyone called him Dick Lugar, later Senator Dick Lugar. One of the coolest senator names ever! Plus he was a good guy and was well-liked by Hoosiers.

[@J.A.Smith2397]

Live in Indiana, first time hearing or seeing

[@DaveSCameron]

Royal 👑 Liver built the Liver Building in Liverpool, along with the Cunard and Exchange buildings they remain The Three Grace's on our world famous waterfront. 👍

[@katherinekinnaird4408]

In the 1980s I participated in the disassembly of the last of the stored telephones and parts and wires and other Western Electric equipment as the United States forced the splitting of the Bell Telephone System. This took place in Bakersfield California. I also came from a family of communication workers and the " MaBell" as it was affectionately known as. My Grandfather and Uncle were long time employees in Bakersfield. My Grandfather was a linesman after WW2 until he retired in the 1960s. Life was simple then.

[@travispeake5935]

Can you do anything from Baltimore?

[@starkiller9897]

Real shame it was demolished. His building have a beauty and artistic we have all lost. Today's buildings are bland and eye sores. No style what so ever. Modernism lacks lacks passion and life in my opinion! The way they incorporated ancient Greek & Roman into there buildings made them timeless masterpieces reall shame more of these works were nit appreciated over profits in building ever larger building that were lack lustre and drab!

[@LUIS-ox1bv]

When one looks at the craftsmanship, the artistry, and imagination that went into the construction of these buildings, one cannot fail to be impressed with the desire on the part of the architects to produce work that not only catered to the wants and needs of their clients, but also granted the city an emblematic symbol of its aspirations and purpose. The older buildings exhibited depth, rhythmic articulation, and surfaces enriched with detailed representation. Unlike the monotonously flat,sterile, cloud reflecting, glass structures, put up today, the older edifices interacted with the effects of light, and shadow, which imparted a sense of solid mass. These old skyscrapers spoke a language understood by anyone with a sense of grandeur, poetry and romance, and gave dignity to the business of doing business.

[@WGDO5805]

I can not understand how they could build it with horse and carriage?

[@SaulGoodman926]

can't believe i've never heard of this

[@lindakay9552]

6:37 I seriously wonder if George B Post was a descendant of one of my 10th great grandfathers who was a Mayflower passenger, and a cofounder of Norwich, CT John Abraham Post B:16 Sep 1629 Othan, Kent, England D:27 November 1710 Norwich, New London County, Connecticut, United States of America 8:27 More ironically, Governor William Bradford was also a 10th great grandfather. His son William had a daughter Hanna who had a daughter Alice, who was my 7th great grandma, married to my direct paternal great grandfather, Samuel Edgerton. (My 9th great grandfather Edgerton was also a Cofounder of Norwich.. But he came over with Myles Standish, who would end up being a 5th(?) great grandfather on my mom's side. 8:42 I had 2nd great grandparents named Thomas and Josephine Sullivan

[@benjamanborchardt2010]

Post also designed the Wisconsin State Capitol building

[@jasonjohnson1690]

Just a heads up, you used the word expodential, I think you mean exponential

[@LarsOfMars.]

"clang"... "expidentially"... 😂

[@kingdingaling2469]

Lovely ….Lovely …. Loveeeely ! 🤌🏿

[@Soulseeologia]

“Bizzare” skyscrapers that claim to be modern but cling to the beauty of Europe’s past… lmao, when u know yu know. I love this guy 😂

[@echodelta9]

Yee-haw. Back home again in Indiana! The stone that is. Proving there's more than corn in Indiana.

[@susanschultz1762]

The first skyscrapers were built in Chicago. Leave it to New York to try to claim the first skyscrapers.

[@craigjensen6853]

Yeah, typical New Yorkers.

[@ssoltys4128]

What are you doing in Warsaw?

[@Ravenfellblade]

I've heard this in several of your videos, so I feel the need to try to help out here: The word is "exponentially", not "expedentially".

[@disprogreavette8545]

Mudflood bud, Tartar sauce titans of industry or something.

[@Barbara.Lerner.Spectre]

New York City may have been the most beautiful city in the World at one point.

[@-Sean_]

26 stories *and* 215 feet? That's a tall building!

[@morakant7864]

It was the location just like the statue of liberty you couldn't pick a better place

[@mariecolette170]

Those mustaches!

[@theresa_lili]

Strange that this wouldn't have been saved in New York.

[@edu7979]

the sinfer tower was demolished, are you shocked it wasnt saved?

[@edu7979]

this*

[@EdTella3333]

expodentially is not a word. its exponentially.

[@JARJCC97]

its pretty funny I hope the guy was alright but yeah he got rid of all those bricks just to have A massive stone hit him and/or the mode of transportation

[@peterzito1372]

Of course it was a work of art and vision just like most sky scrapers built in 1948 and prior

[@FernandoTRA]

Most interesting. Unfortunately what was on the plot before the building that is the center of this video was the best looking construction. Better than the St Paul building and of course far and above the glass nondescript building that stands there now.

[@michaelmckinnon7314]

St Paul Tower was designed to mimic the Leaning Tower of Pisa, would you have wanted to walk in it's shadow?

[@Keithf1]

Outrageous tragedy.

[@donaldsawyer2618]

Great video. Back then Europeans just arrived! Now those same people’s descendants say the new immigrants need to jump through hoops to come here. Meanwhile we have a labor shortage

[@samyfay7786]

As always, the demolition of this tower is a tragedy. Like many other construction of the time. Look at the new building. THAT makes me want to vomit. I wish we could have shown to the critics the future building (garbage bin) that will replace the St-Paul tower. Everyone in their sane mind would have changed their mind.

[@godfreydaniel6278]

Clearly a temple to Gozer...

[@jamesrobinson9176]

👍

[@pagerhoads1531]

I like the stories about the fake architects that's quite amusing, those idiots didn't design any of those buildings because they were already there

[@HorizonMelt]

Oh no.... Please tell meet you didn't just say "expoDentially". No no no no no... 3:06

[@markusgeimer3099]

51 trees representing the states??.. 51 states?

[@J-P-v-y9y]

I'm glad you've covered this skyscraper. You're doing god's work.

[@danielpollak6075]

...feels like AI

[@billynomates920]

george b. post for some reason not as romantic as frank lloyd wright: the vagaries of language.

[@jacobyhenderson1715]

bull

[@charlesclager6808]

It was a real shame that the three statues went to of all places Indianapolis ! And then they sat there for years. Columbia U. and M.I. T. wanted them ? Or even sending them back to the sculptor's home country in Europe all were better choices than Indianapolis. Good video.

[@timmmahhhh]

You've obviously never been to Indianapolis. It has a lot of older architecture preserved proportionally for a large city. Look up the Soldiers and Sailors Monument that marks the city's center. Also Kurt Vonnegut is from Indy and his grandfather was an architect who designed a German Cultural Center called The Athenaeum along Massachusetts Avenue which is still there and is now a YMCA and has a great German restaurant called The Rathskellar. Look up Holliday Park on Google Maps and you'll see these sculptures being appreciated by the citizens.

[@danielshaneyfelt9892]

Charles klager have you ever been off your block or is that the furthest you've ever made it???

[@EZ-pt5gd]

69th view, great video!