Why New York Lifted the Bayonne Bridge

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@FlickLives
@FlickLives Жыл бұрын
As a Jersey City NJ born native, we pronounce Bayonne as Bay-Own not Bay-on.
@llaves973
@llaves973 Жыл бұрын
As a Newark native that’s correct ^
@patrickjolly1923
@patrickjolly1923 Жыл бұрын
It is proper Bayonneese to say “Bay-own,” but way more fun to say “Bay-own-ee”
@MultiPetercool
@MultiPetercool Жыл бұрын
Born in Paterson. Agree Bay-Own!
@matthewcole4753
@matthewcole4753 Жыл бұрын
​@@llaves973Staten Islander too says this is correct.
@ahampel22
@ahampel22 Жыл бұрын
I came here to say this as well :)
@eddiejc1
@eddiejc1 Жыл бұрын
The Holland Tunnel does not allow direct access to Manhattan from Staten Island----it's necessary to drive through New Jersey first. The video's use of the term "direct access" implies that Staten Islanders could drive direct to Manhattan, and that's not the case. I believe SIers get a toll discount for using the Verezzanno Bridge, but I don't know if there is a similar discount for using the NJ tunnels or the GWB into Manhattan.
@KenACollins
@KenACollins Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I replayed the video 3 times at the part where he says the Bayonne Bridge was created to give people living in lower Manhattan easy access to Staten Island. What? The Bayonne Bridge does not connect to Manhattan.
@at_3831
@at_3831 Жыл бұрын
I moved to Bayonne in 00, worked on blasting and dredging the rock fault line in the kills to deepen the depth for post Panamax shipping. Mid 00’s when the decision was s made to raise the bridge I worked bringing barges and equipment to the bridge for the work to commence. I’ve walked over that bridge both pre raise and post but I have passed under it many more times then going over in the last 24 years
@el.aye.bee.4477
@el.aye.bee.4477 Ай бұрын
I am one of the ironworkers who worked on the raising of the bridge. It was an awesome job.
@leonb2637
@leonb2637 Жыл бұрын
The initial design of the Bayonne Bridge was innovative but to me the raised deck project is very much underestimated for its own engineering innovation and success. That the original design allowed the new raised deck to be done over 70 years later was never envisioned by the original engineer but that was able to be done shows their genius and 'overengineering' worked. The 'inner' harbor that was accessed via under the Bayonne Bridge was originally to assure access for the waterfront in Jersey City, Bayonne, Elizabeth and Newark that grew greatly with containerized sea shipping from the 1960's.
@42luke93
@42luke93 Жыл бұрын
Probably looked ridiculous when made, good thing they built the arch like that.
@at_3831
@at_3831 Жыл бұрын
@@42luke93if it looked ridiculous after first being built why was it awarded the best looking bridge award?!?
@42luke93
@42luke93 Жыл бұрын
@@at_3831 Meaning how the structure is so tall but the bridge is low it looked nicer that way
@allenkatz5652
@allenkatz5652 Жыл бұрын
The same enigineer designed the GW Bridge as well and 30 years later a lower deck was added. It seems like he used to "over enigineer" his bridges for future generations. (Although it was a generation later, he was also the engineer for adding the lower deck.)
@TomCroke-v4s
@TomCroke-v4s Жыл бұрын
I believe the GW was intentionally designed in anticipation of adding a lower deck. @@allenkatz5652
@davidbennetts616
@davidbennetts616 Жыл бұрын
A similar situation exists with the Sydney Harbour Bridge. In this case, it isn't bigger cargo ships which are a problem, as these have now been diverted to Port Botany, near the Sydney International Airport. It is the larger new generation cruise ships which are too tall to fit under the bridge. There is only one cruise berth available for the larger ships on the seaward side of the bridge. It wouldn't be feasible to raise the deck of the Sydney Harbour Bridge as it also carries two railway tracks which are already at maximum practical grade when they leave the tunnels on the city side approaches.
@Josh-yr7gd
@Josh-yr7gd Жыл бұрын
How cool is it that Eugenius Harvey Outerbridge actually had a bridge named after him.
@youp9546
@youp9546 Жыл бұрын
Never new this by the way. re: Outerbridge was his last name. Destiny.
@secant9046
@secant9046 Жыл бұрын
Legend has it that it was named the Outerbridge Crossing to avoid the redundancy of naming it the Outerbridge Bridge.
@Josh-yr7gd
@Josh-yr7gd Жыл бұрын
@@secant9046 If they had kept the original deck in place, the newer and higher deck could have been called the Outer Outerbridge Bridge 😆
@youp9546
@youp9546 Жыл бұрын
@@Josh-yr7gd 😄
@youp9546
@youp9546 Жыл бұрын
😆@@secant9046
@christineharris2302
@christineharris2302 Жыл бұрын
And as a Bayonne, New Jersey resident, I'm going to tell you it's a New Jersey bridge, not a New York bridge. New York does not name its bridges after New Jersey cities.
@johnstreet797
@johnstreet797 Жыл бұрын
you got dat right
@wwemario12345
@wwemario12345 11 ай бұрын
Oh my god no one cares
@christineharris2302
@christineharris2302 11 ай бұрын
@@wwemario12345 No one really cares if you care.
@B3Band
@B3Band 11 ай бұрын
@@christineharris2302 No one cares if you care whether he cares
@christineharris2302
@christineharris2302 11 ай бұрын
@@B3Band You probably should get a life instead of engaging in ridiculous conversations.
@jstoney6471
@jstoney6471 Жыл бұрын
I hired a guy who worked on this as the CWI for all Welding. Stories he told me would shake you to the core! Errors, Slips, etc!
@edwardloomis887
@edwardloomis887 Жыл бұрын
An amazing project while it was underway. I worked in south Brooklyn and a couple colleagues relied on the Bayonne Bridge to get to Staten Island, then onward over another bridge to Brooklyn, something they could continue to do throughout the construction. They just couldn't work late because the bridge would close for work each night.
@libertytree1775
@libertytree1775 11 ай бұрын
Thank you for showing the history of NYC's Bayonne Bridge.
@rosezingleman5007
@rosezingleman5007 Жыл бұрын
I remember studying this bridge in my bridges class in grad school engineering. It is a beautiful structure!
@juanstarnotip8122
@juanstarnotip8122 Жыл бұрын
It was, it's ugly now
@Cubs1719
@Cubs1719 Жыл бұрын
As someone who's driven over that bridge countless times and hated it... Glad to hear someone else has a different perspective on it
@cattnipp
@cattnipp 9 ай бұрын
are you an engineer?
@jetsons101
@jetsons101 Жыл бұрын
Raising the road deck was a great idea. Ryan, thanks for your time, work and posting.
@Nxsem_Fn
@Nxsem_Fn 11 ай бұрын
My dad was living in bayonne I would spend the weeknd with him in those in bayonne he lived there ever since August 8 2019 and he moved to bloomfield I miss the house in bayonne
@SeverityOne
@SeverityOne Жыл бұрын
So Vanderbilt, who was of Dutch descent, started a ferry to an island named after the Dutch parliament. It's still the name of the bicameral Dutch parliament today: "Staten-Generaal". For us Dutch is funny to see how many names in NYC are of Dutch origin.
@rvnmedic1968
@rvnmedic1968 Жыл бұрын
As a Staten Islander from youth, the naming process went like this: a sailing ship had gone through the Kill Van Kull waterway and the ship's Captain was looking towards an island and asked, "is Dat an Island", which became Stat an Island.
@johnstreet797
@johnstreet797 Жыл бұрын
you mean in Nieu Amsterdam?
@SeverityOne
@SeverityOne Жыл бұрын
@@johnstreet797 That's the one. If history had gone a bit different, the Decleration of Independence would have started with "De unanieme Verklaaring der dertien vereenigde Staten van America". 🙂
@JC-nl3nh
@JC-nl3nh 8 ай бұрын
what is so funny about a colonized european land having european names?
@gregessex1851
@gregessex1851 Жыл бұрын
10:20. It’s is certainly a lighter structure than the Sydney Harbour Bridge, but the SHB was designed to carry 6 lanes of vehicles and 4 heavy railway tracks. The two bridges had very different loadings.
@EpicThe112
@EpicThe112 Жыл бұрын
Been on this bridge many times since it's the shortcut between interstate 78 and 278 the Staten Island Expressway towards JFK Airport. If you take this bridge from Allentown in Easton Pennsylvania area to JFK Airport you cut off 3 miles from 93 miles via Bedminster 287 to 90 miles via 78 and Bayonne Bridge 440. There is a bus route that uses this bridge the S89
@black_bandit1084
@black_bandit1084 11 ай бұрын
Yes the S89 is the only New York City bus to have a stop in a different state. I wish this bus was utilized more as it only runs rush hours and does not stop at the Bayonne Crossing plaza
@tonydugal5275
@tonydugal5275 8 ай бұрын
I’ve watched dozens of your history documentaries and loved everyone. Thank you.
@eileenkiza824
@eileenkiza824 Жыл бұрын
The port authority lifted this bridge, not NYC.
@raydenbartley
@raydenbartley 9 ай бұрын
*I* lifted the bridge.
@danishjamal9327
@danishjamal9327 8 ай бұрын
@@raydenbartley this is true i was the bridge
@yefenofphoto
@yefenofphoto Жыл бұрын
Go Figure. The most Outer of the bridges in the New York City area is really named for a person called Outerbridge
@JimTheFly
@JimTheFly Жыл бұрын
I've lived in NJ all my life and I was in my 30s before I learned that the Outerbridge wasn't just the outermost bridge but a bridge named for a man named Outerbridge. TBH, I probably heard that sooner, but thought it was a joke because... c'mon... OUTERBRIDGE??
@johnstreet797
@johnstreet797 Жыл бұрын
aint' dat a kick inna head
@B3Band
@B3Band 11 ай бұрын
My 8th grade English teacher taught us this. I went to to school in the Bronx.
@word42069
@word42069 10 ай бұрын
I’m 29 and a lifelong resident of Brooklyn/NJ. It was only upon watching this video that I learned that. Lmao
@robert4123
@robert4123 8 ай бұрын
I know it still cracks me up. I think I was 50 when I learned the source of its name (and born in SI) but I guess it’s also a situation where your name dictates your future lol.
@W2KB
@W2KB Жыл бұрын
"New York" did not raise the bridge height in the recent project. The "Port Authority of New York and New Jersey" owns the bridge, performed the lift project, and is a bi-state agency with equal shares of the States of New York and New Jersey.
@brandonwestcott8892
@brandonwestcott8892 9 ай бұрын
Actually the turnpike authority owns the bridge
@robertballasty395
@robertballasty395 8 ай бұрын
@@brandonwestcott8892 Nope. Perhaps you are thinking of the nearby and superficially similar bridge that carries the Newark Bay Extension of the NJ Turnpike between Newark and Bayonne & Jersey City.
@EROD1010
@EROD1010 8 ай бұрын
So New York lifted it, who does the PA work for, for the PEOPLE of the States of NY and NJ, stop pretending like government agencies don’t work for the people.
@JoeyJoe-f5o
@JoeyJoe-f5o 8 ай бұрын
The port authority owns the bridge… I live on the island .
@robertforrester578
@robertforrester578 10 ай бұрын
That's good work Brother. Thanks from Philadelphia
@elohimdagod
@elohimdagod Жыл бұрын
New York didn't lift jack squat the port authority did
@TheRandCrews
@TheRandCrews Жыл бұрын
Man they need extend the Hudson Bergen Light Rail over to Staten Island and connect to SIR, it’s literally so close to get extended and run on Richmond Ave to Eltingville
@black_bandit1084
@black_bandit1084 11 ай бұрын
That would be cool but I doubt if they miraculously approve it it will be completed in our lifetime
@B3Band
@B3Band 11 ай бұрын
Why?
@peterquennellnyc
@peterquennellnyc 8 ай бұрын
The Hudson Bergen Light Rail has potential at each end. During construction Bergen & Orange counties wanted it extended up there. The trolley cars (made in Canada??) came by rail and were put on the tracks on the west side of Bergen hill (the last stop).
@landocalrisian2014
@landocalrisian2014 Жыл бұрын
Great presentation!! I learned a lot. 👍🏾
@edwardauerbach8036
@edwardauerbach8036 Жыл бұрын
The Port Authority was originally called "The Port of New York Authority" and was created in 1921 to regulate freight rates in the Port following WWI. It was the first interstate authority and was approved by the US congress. It was and is controlled by the governors of New York and New Jersey and not by the Mayors of the municipalities where the facilities are located. It evolved to include interstate crossings when the private and municipal governments did not have the budgets to build and maintain these crossings. Later, local airports were also added to the Port Authority for the same reasons. It got into the real estate business because the governor of NY, Nelson Rockefeller's brother Alan wanted to build a world trade center near his Chase Manhattan Bank. The governor of NJ approved the construction if the Port Authority would take ownership of the bankrupt Hudson tubes commuter rail system. Thus, the Port Authority Trans Hudson Railroad {PATH} was created in 1962.
@williammiller9584
@williammiller9584 10 ай бұрын
Not Alan Rockefeller, David Rockefeller.
@peterquennellnyc
@peterquennellnyc 8 ай бұрын
Useful take. In the transport fraternity it has respect worldwide. (It also took a ton of my money in tolls!)
@FluxDeimos
@FluxDeimos Жыл бұрын
A megaproject that was underbudget AND completed early and wasn't a disaster? Makes you wonder why we cant do them now XD
@Markjohnson-vw4en
@Markjohnson-vw4en 6 ай бұрын
There is a beautiful view of this bridge from the Observation Area in the South Mountain Reservation in South Orange/Millburn, NJ. The Reservation was designed (in part) by Frederick Olmstead, of Central Park fame. The very area from which you view the bridge is also the exact location from where Gen George Washington observed the British & Hessian troops when they occupied Staten Island, during the Revolutionary War. Washington's Beacon Signal Station #9 was located here. The site (now called Washington Rock) was used again in the War of 1812.
@ajmthisisinteresting1403
@ajmthisisinteresting1403 7 ай бұрын
Very well done video! .. Very interesting. Thanks for posting!
@watthairston1483
@watthairston1483 6 ай бұрын
Bridges are fascinating and very complex engineering civil systems. Each being very unique in so many ways and each their own story. Many thanks...
@dubreil07
@dubreil07 Жыл бұрын
This bridge never has traffic. Also they need to extend the Hudson rail over to staten
@B3Band
@B3Band 11 ай бұрын
Why?
@W2KB
@W2KB 7 ай бұрын
Th as-built and rebuilt Bayonne Bridge were both designed to accommodate trolley cars ((trolleys are now called "lighrail" vehicles so it is feasible.
@larrybauer4534
@larrybauer4534 Жыл бұрын
Another great presentation. Thanks.
@williammiller9584
@williammiller9584 10 ай бұрын
Othmar Amman designed six bridges in NYC and the surrounding area. They are the Bayonne Bridge, the George Washington Bridge, the Verrazano Narrows Bridge, the Whitestone Bridge, the Throgs Neck Bridge and (at least) the suspension span of the Robert F Kennedy Bridge (formerly the Triborough Bridge). All are beautiful structures.
@TheMrPeteChannel
@TheMrPeteChannel 8 ай бұрын
Everyone still calls it the Triborough
@peterquennellnyc
@peterquennellnyc 8 ай бұрын
@@TheMrPeteChannel Haha! And everybody still calls it the Tappan Zee.
@markshietze4783
@markshietze4783 Жыл бұрын
Awesome ❤😊
@MarineRecon6682
@MarineRecon6682 Жыл бұрын
I was born in Jersey City but we moved to bayowhen. I was in my teens. I lived there for 40 years. My family has been in that town since the eighteen hundreds had absolutely no idea about this.
@B3Band
@B3Band 11 ай бұрын
wtf is bayowhen?
@mvl9591
@mvl9591 10 ай бұрын
Lived in Lyndhurst,NJ years ago and I remember tug boats and oil barges going up the Passaic River as far as Wallington. There is a dam across the river at Lodi,NJ
@philsentry1745
@philsentry1745 6 күн бұрын
As a kid I would wake up in the morning and watch the sun come up and light up the bridge. As a teen we use to walk over the bridge and play basketball at the park at the foot of the bridge. In my early twenties we would get drunk and go over the bridge and cause vandalism. I love this bridge.
@dominic08690
@dominic08690 8 ай бұрын
That bridge is as New York as the Jets & Giants.
@7891ph
@7891ph Жыл бұрын
Question... Why haven't you covered the Mackinaw Bridge??? I know, it's one of the forgotten ones, but when it opened in November,1957, it was the longest bridge in the world, and even though it's lost the title of the overall longest, if you measure it from one cable anchorage to the other, (suspension part only) it's still one of the longest. And if you're a Chicago native, it's almost in your backyard.
@jeffreyharnden7523
@jeffreyharnden7523 11 ай бұрын
If im not mistaken the beyonne bridge has a pedestrian walk way just like the east river bridges and the george washington br. Ive never walked the beyonne maybe one day but ive walked on all of the east river bridges as well as the GWB ive also read that there were plans to build a walk way on the verrizanno bridge ive been on that bridge while riding in a car and i have to say that the brooklyn bound side has the best view if they do build a walk way i hope that they build it on the brooklyn bound side the new jersey bound side of the GWB also have the most breathtaking view im not sure why that side of the bridge isnt open for pedestrians the view is breathtaking the new york bound side is ok but its not like the new jersey bound side i hope that one day i can take a picture of it via my phone ditto the the brooklyn bound side of the verrizanno narrows bridge fingers cross
@W2KB
@W2KB 7 ай бұрын
It does. Originally on the west side, bot since the rebuilding, on the east side.
@freetolook3727
@freetolook3727 Жыл бұрын
Question: Why New York Lifted the Bayonne Bridge? Answer: Easy. So, larger ships could easily pass underneath it! No brainer!! 😂
@kpdowd4221
@kpdowd4221 10 ай бұрын
You know Brooklyn had a ferry to Staten Island too, right? The orange boat wasn’t the “only” one.
@daewooparts
@daewooparts 9 ай бұрын
17:43 ,actually the Port Authority of New York & New Jersey actually paid for nearby residents to get new windows & doors to alivate the nightly noise concerns
@eddiejc1
@eddiejc1 Жыл бұрын
The reason Staten Island is part of New York is because of a bargain the colonies of New York and New Jersey struck many years ago. New Jersey agreed to cede any islands in the Hudson River----even those as close to the New Jersey shore as Staten Island is----to New York as long as New Jersey had the right to navigate the Hudson River and build ports on their shores. The only island in the Hudson River that New Jersey has any claim to is part of Ellis Island because New York dredged land from New Jersey waters to expand it. The U.S. Supreme Court ruled that the extra land belonged to New Jersey.
@yox465
@yox465 Жыл бұрын
Why the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey lifted the Bayonne(NJ) bridge
@artemiscool67
@artemiscool67 Жыл бұрын
Exactly!
@B3Band
@B3Band 11 ай бұрын
To get to the other side.
@peterquennellnyc
@peterquennellnyc 8 ай бұрын
It was blocking big ships.
@CaptainM792
@CaptainM792 Жыл бұрын
The Staten Island Ferry in New York is like Star Ferry here in Hong Kong.
@jau963
@jau963 Жыл бұрын
The Holland Tunnel does not connect Staten Island to Manhattan.
@richardhetrick4770
@richardhetrick4770 Жыл бұрын
As a country person my neighbors don't understand role that NYC plays in our ecomeny and bridge problem are not their problems. When I started driving long haul I hauled goods form westen pa to NYC and produce form California to hunts point and long Island. There are nine western state where fewer people live then Manhatten ny
@word42069
@word42069 10 ай бұрын
at the end of the day we’re one country and every part of it is important for one reason or another. It’s sad that politics often seek to distract us from that truth. We’re actually all on the same team (for the most part).
@peterquennellnyc
@peterquennellnyc 8 ай бұрын
So... what do you think of the Cross Bronx?! Hunts Point is the veggies market, when it was in SE Manhattan it was mob controlled.
@vincenthprice2260
@vincenthprice2260 Жыл бұрын
Been across Bayonne bridge since the deck has been raise up to accommodate taller ships mainly container ships the approach to is a very steep incline.
@JimTheFly
@JimTheFly Жыл бұрын
Apparently there were problems originally after the new higher-incline bridge opened with trucks having issues with the climb. But that's the problem when you can't move either end of the bridge but have to raise it.
@jackshel
@jackshel 10 ай бұрын
Went over it in December 23. That sucker is high! I wished we could stop and take a look.
@peterquennellnyc
@peterquennellnyc 8 ай бұрын
@@jackshel "I wished we could stop and take a look." Agreed. You can walk it of course.
@W2KB
@W2KB 7 ай бұрын
The incline, though steep, does comply with USDOT standards/guidelines for vehicular roads.
@peterquennellnyc
@peterquennellnyc 7 ай бұрын
@@W2KB "The incline, though steep, does comply with USDOT standards/guidelines for vehicular roads." Agreed. But it is 18 wheelers sliding on ice that change standards.
@bmh67wa
@bmh67wa 4 ай бұрын
Wait... outer bridge is actually a guy named Outerbridge? Mind blown.
@Rick-qf5de
@Rick-qf5de 8 ай бұрын
And the bridge just kept setting records after it was opened.... Every year. More and more people.... They came from near and far to jump. 😮
@MrTopgunna718
@MrTopgunna718 Жыл бұрын
Army Corp of engineers dredged out the kill van kull to 50 ft. Now it's at 75-100 ft. Every couple years it gets dredged out becuz it's a settement of the Hudson
@peterquennellnyc
@peterquennellnyc 8 ай бұрын
"settlement of the Hudson" I think the silt is mainly from the Hackensack and Passaic rivers?
@MrTopgunna718
@MrTopgunna718 8 ай бұрын
@peterquennellnyc yeah u can say that as well.
@peterquennellnyc
@peterquennellnyc 8 ай бұрын
@@MrTopgunna718 Tks. Not picking sides here! My view is the Hudson and I am sure it brings down a ton of stuff. But I know how pesky the Hackensack and especially Passaic River are and they exit into the kull. There is/was a proposal for a 20-mile flood tunnel under the Passaic from Wayne with pumps to speed the water along.
@ghayes220
@ghayes220 Жыл бұрын
Excellent video and research. I'm from Hudson County, where Bayonne is located.
@ITSHISTORY
@ITSHISTORY Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info!
@Animalwon
@Animalwon 8 ай бұрын
I found your map of Native Indian populations in the NY/NJ was fascinating to a former NY'er. They never taught us NY'er in school about the Indian tribes around us.... History class would have been a lot more interesting!
@SeverityOne
@SeverityOne Жыл бұрын
Comparing this to the Øresund Bridge: that has a clearing of "only" 57 metres, or 187 feet. Although it ought to be mentioned that there is a tunnel segment as well, so ships could sail there. That crossing, between Denmark and Sweden, was built over a waterway that is the only access to the open ocean for Poland, Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia, Finland, and Saint-Petersburg (Russia).
@cubanpete1290
@cubanpete1290 Жыл бұрын
Glad they put the new walkway facing the city.
@jetweldingllc4691
@jetweldingllc4691 Жыл бұрын
Steel Erected by Ironworkers Local 11 North Jersey & Ironworkers Local 40 NYC = Setting steel for America’s future projects /BRIDGE , STRUCTURAL UNION IRONWORKERS (Building America)
@roberthill2219
@roberthill2219 Жыл бұрын
Yea!!! More Staten Island content!!!
@msenecal
@msenecal 8 ай бұрын
Reasons for raising the bridge start around 15:00
@glennshrom5801
@glennshrom5801 11 ай бұрын
At timestamp 16:34 the narration says that the bridge was raised by 215 feet, which would make the new height about 365 feet. I think what was meant to be said instead is that the bridge was raised to 215 feet.
@martincicchino1228
@martincicchino1228 Жыл бұрын
'New York' did not do this project New Jersey and New York did it.
@W2KB
@W2KB 7 ай бұрын
Correct ,by NjJ&NY State's jointly owned Port Authority.
@robertballasty395
@robertballasty395 8 ай бұрын
It's not a "New York" or "New York City" bridge. It is owned, operated, & maintained by the Port Authority of NY & NJ - a bistate agency which operates numerous transportation and cargo facilities in and around the great natural harbor which the two states share. Among those - the container shipping port (Port Newark/Elizabeth), four rapid-transit rail routes, three major airports, three bridges between NJ & Staten Island, NY, and one bridge & two tunnels crossing the Hudson River between NJ & Manhattan.
@ALWH1314
@ALWH1314 8 ай бұрын
Four years, two million dollars review is fast? Wow, I’m dumbfounded.
@nowacurmudgeon
@nowacurmudgeon Жыл бұрын
You should have mentioned that 2 SNL folks bought one of the Staten Island Ferry boats.
@B3Band
@B3Band 11 ай бұрын
Why?
@nowacurmudgeon
@nowacurmudgeon 11 ай бұрын
@@B3Band The ferry got mentioned. Just a little fact for the story.
@GD1082
@GD1082 Жыл бұрын
You forgot to mention ships in 1991 and 2003 scraped the bottom of the bridge damaging it.
@user-random-characters
@user-random-characters Жыл бұрын
Ummm Sydney harbor bridge isn’t designed with inspiration of the Bayonne bridge, that’s the hells gate bridge in Astoria….
@markinvt
@markinvt 8 ай бұрын
Good video!
@Mk99987
@Mk99987 Жыл бұрын
1:08-Even the Lenape Indians used boats….! It was too far to swim.
@brantonzhang
@brantonzhang Жыл бұрын
That bridge was destroyed in the War of the Worlds movie
@robertvantassell1143
@robertvantassell1143 8 ай бұрын
First point, it was the Port Authority of NY & NJ that lifted the bridge. 2nd they raised it because they couldn't lower the river.
@stickynorth
@stickynorth Жыл бұрын
Question: In the original design, where were the tracks supposed to run? Between the road lanes On a separate deck? On the outside? Very curious about that and why it was never implemented... Even when Hudson-Bergen Light Rail was built oh-so close to Staten Island...
@edwardp3502
@edwardp3502 11 ай бұрын
The old deck had space on either side of the roadway to accommodate tracks that were never installed. If you walked across the bridge there was about a 12-foot gap between the pedestrian walkway and the roadway.
@crispychris9492
@crispychris9492 Жыл бұрын
Going to and from Staten Island is still a massive hassle
@workingrich8464
@workingrich8464 Жыл бұрын
And expensive
@B3Band
@B3Band 11 ай бұрын
And pointless
@mikedalto364
@mikedalto364 7 күн бұрын
I was always told that the Sidney harbour bridge was based off of the hells gate bridges design. All three look very similar though.
@broadwayboy6024
@broadwayboy6024 Жыл бұрын
This was a joint project between New Jersey and New York. Why only mention New York?
@B3Band
@B3Band 11 ай бұрын
Because this historian seems to know very little about the history of this particular topic. The entire comments section is corrections.
@muzvid
@muzvid 11 ай бұрын
Silly me! I grew up in the area, and I always thought the Outerbridge Crossing was called that because it was the outermost bridge across the Hudson!! Live and learn...
@edwardp3502
@edwardp3502 10 ай бұрын
The Hudson? It bridges the Arthur Kill, not the Hudson, which is a good 15 miles northeast.
@muzvid
@muzvid 10 ай бұрын
​@@edwardp3502 Oops, I guess I just sort of merged them together in my mind. Again, silly me.
@edwardp3502
@edwardp3502 10 ай бұрын
@@muzvid No apologies needed, it’s a relatively common mistake. Staten Island has a fascinating history that many NY-NJ folks are unaware of. Enjoy these videos!
@grillage2
@grillage2 5 ай бұрын
Engineer of design for Bayonne bridge was Allston Dana. Not Othmar Ammann. Ammann collaborated with Allston Dana on design.
@stephenbritton9297
@stephenbritton9297 8 ай бұрын
Been under that bridge a couple of times.
@BartWillems1969
@BartWillems1969 Жыл бұрын
"The port could lose business to Savannah and Charleston." Nothing is further from the truth; those ports actually *lobbied* to have the bridge raised. Vessels run the eastern seaboard on a schedule and will visit all three ports; it's commercially not attractive to skip one. Charleston and Savannah had invested and could handle much larger ships but that capacity was not used because Elizabeth was the bottleneck. Hence they had interest in it as well. Surely it's good for business, but not to better compete with the ports of the south, but rather cooperate to land more business.
@michaellucassen9726
@michaellucassen9726 Жыл бұрын
You missed the fact that the Sydney bridge was opened by an Irish man on a horse with a sword declaring that it was for the people
@currawongee1
@currawongee1 Жыл бұрын
The SHB is still one of the widest bridges.
@deanseawa
@deanseawa 11 ай бұрын
It is an absolute must that narrators correctly pronounce the name of the things they're talking about. This one did not. It's obvious they did not do their proper research.
@SirRamone
@SirRamone 11 ай бұрын
Sydney bridge was designed to have 4 main line railway lines built on it hence its weight probably.
@optimismize
@optimismize Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately I think someone took a leap off of this structure today... Coincidentally enough😢
@B3Band
@B3Band 11 ай бұрын
Cool.
@tommunyon2874
@tommunyon2874 11 ай бұрын
Memento is an item kept to memorialize an occasion or event. Momento is a small segment of time in certain Latin derived languages. The former is tangible the latter is not.
@zoomanx9661
@zoomanx9661 Жыл бұрын
Because the King of Bayonne demanded it
@joestrike8537
@joestrike8537 Жыл бұрын
The guy's *name* was "Outerbridge"?! As J. Jonah Jameson once said, "what are the odds?"
@BillP-kg1yp
@BillP-kg1yp 10 ай бұрын
Narrator says "They raised the bridge's roadway by 215 feet", it should be "They raised the bridge's roadway to 215 feet". That is quite a difference.
@jimmeade2976
@jimmeade2976 Жыл бұрын
Raising the bridge is excellent engineering, but the bridge's aesthetics have suffered. There is a symmetry of scale in the original bridge design that is lost in the upgrade. The roadway in the original design is about halfway up the arch, while the upgrade has it 2/3 of the way up.
@FromSagansStardust
@FromSagansStardust Жыл бұрын
Yes, it looks topheavy now!
@peterquennellnyc
@peterquennellnyc 8 ай бұрын
Agreed. Weird. It looks a bit precarious.
@SirFloofy001
@SirFloofy001 Жыл бұрын
2:42 not an expert just making assumptions buuuut looking at this map and knowing the American governments love of technicalities, i can see some obscure old law or decree stating something like "these lands and the islands directly visible from said lands" and since Staten island is an island its included or something like that. Theres a lot of weird borders all over the world down to tiny quirks like that so i wouldn't be at all surprised to learn its part of NY because a message in a bottle washed up on shore that said "property of NY" in the 1600's and they went with it.
@thomasruggiero9220
@thomasruggiero9220 Жыл бұрын
And the navy used to test weapons there so they probably dumped plenty of Manhattan project waste there too. Plus it’s closer to Columbia University.
@joermnyc
@joermnyc Жыл бұрын
The Sydney Harbor Bridge may weigh more, but it carries many more lanes of traffic, pedestrian and cyclist paths, and metro trains.
@Cubs1719
@Cubs1719 Жыл бұрын
Yeah but the Sydney harbor bridge isn't in Bayonne
@williamsosa2136
@williamsosa2136 Жыл бұрын
Perth Amboy my home town
@johnkem2630
@johnkem2630 10 ай бұрын
The uranium for the Manhattan Project was transported and stored there during the development of the Little Boy & Fat Man bombs. It is not legend and was not 'dumped' there as it was utilized in the 2 weapons. The area depicted in the photograph was previously a privately owned automotive salvage facility. The uranium storage area was directly under the bridge on Staten Island and has been a secured area since WWII due to higher than normal radiation levels.
@toddnolastname4485
@toddnolastname4485 Жыл бұрын
The real question is, why did the colony of New York get such a big portion of the mainland? That part should be Connecticut. That part should be Massachusetts. And that should be New Hampshire (which should include Vermont).
@idk-ol2it
@idk-ol2it Жыл бұрын
new york was economic venture it got the hudson basin
@billynomates920
@billynomates920 Жыл бұрын
20:14 that picture is *so* new york, it's silly!
@B3Band
@B3Band 11 ай бұрын
Chris Christie was the Governor of *New Jersey* at the time the photo was taken. Read the seal on the podium.
@ZaPilot
@ZaPilot 8 ай бұрын
They made some parts so steep that cars get stuck going up the bridge in snow storms
@adithyaramachandran7427
@adithyaramachandran7427 11 ай бұрын
One has to assess the real costs for civil engineering projects in the New York area. If the Bayonne bridge would cost $273 million today accounting for inflation, why does building a new bridge of the same size cost $2.7 billion ? I can understand some increase due to the cost of labor, but 10 times as much accounting for inflation seems fishy.
@B3Band
@B3Band 11 ай бұрын
It isn't being built today. You can say that attempting to build a new bridge in the same area would cost billions. But you can't say that the price paid for the bridge back then is anything other than the actual price that was paid (which you can then adjust for inflation, regardless of what the actual cost might be today). If you adjust home prices in 1950 for inflation, those prices will still be less than what those same houses sell for today.
@LordFlashlamp
@LordFlashlamp Ай бұрын
The report you mentioned took four years to complete? None of those folks could have made it through college.
@TwentyRegularCash
@TwentyRegularCash 7 ай бұрын
Bayonne native here. The Bayonne Bridge is in Bayonne, New Jersey. Not New York. It’s literally New Jersey lol.
@greatwall8158
@greatwall8158 2 ай бұрын
So it doesn't go to Staten Island at all? The whole bridge is in Bayonne? It's a Bayonne to Bayonne bridge? Does it connect one Bayonne street to another Bayonne street? Duh.
@MBB563
@MBB563 7 ай бұрын
the story about sailing around Staten Island is a true story. During colonial times, NJ and NY disputed the Island. and to settle the issue, the dispute was brought to the attention of King George. To solve the issue King George had a solution - if you can sail the island, go around it within 24 hours then NY can claim ownership, if you cant then ownership goes to NJ. That is how Staten Island was born into New York State. In truth seeing how Staten Island hugs NJ, from a geographic view Staten Island belongs to NJ. It was always understood that any lands east of the Hudson was NY, and West belong to NJ. Staten island is to the east at the Hudson or the NY harbor so it naturally should have belonged to NJ.
@Jsn0506m1
@Jsn0506m1 Жыл бұрын
Are you a staten islander?
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