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[@TabletopTime]

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[@firmak2]

its good to see failures too and ngl, knowing what the "story" of the diorama was, its like the ratling tripped a security system that distorted reality in that room so in that sense it looks dope af.

[@anastasiaklyuch2746]

I actually LOVE how it turned out - it looks a lot more complex and intricate, and I could stare at it for hours, imagining that the bubbles and cracks are like caves (or clouds) and there is a story going on inside, compared to other diaramas that are pretty but tell the entire story at a glance. I'd sure happily keep this "failure" for inspiration! :D

[@carnagemaxxx2429]

You guys did good, that just means that our mistakes lead to greater opportunities with resin

[@paintedblue1791]

Tzeentch :" I love it when a plan comes together!"

[@pappalazarus906]

Commander Farsight demon warlord of korn conversion?????!!!!!!

[@SquidmarMiniatures]

It was so much fun to meet and we're so gutted for you! You put in so much hard work and the idea was so cool! Thanks again for finishing off our diorama and fixing it's so beautifully! ❤🎉

[@bjornthefellhanded5655]

Unironically it looks absolutely fucking amazing, as if those Drone-thingies activated some sort of Defense Mechanism to try and kill the Explorers....

[@lindendrache8998]

It is sad that it did not turn out like you wanted it, but I absolutely enjoyed the video and the colaboration with the other two channels. It still has an unique effect in the glamour shots. And it tells "normal people" that resin pouring IS hard. Only success would make this pretty challenging medium look easy. I would love to see this retried.

[@angelgoldennight]

I'm glad u guys still posted the video cuz I feel like this is a good lesson about learning and safety when it comes to resin. Hope this doesn't deter u guys from trying something this big again

[@dazbeamish8144]

try to save it, make a slightly bigger mold, then where the big air pockets are use a small drill bit to open that air chamber, pour resin around it so its submerged and put it into the vacuum chamber, the vacuum chamber will suck the resin into the voids

[@Me-th3gj]

Yeah, with big resin pours, you'll want to keep it really cold while it cures.

[@shaunkrogulski9619]

You could drill hole in the resin part and make it look like a breach in the black stone fortress or something like that and the cracks etc is decompression maybe. It would be hard but maybe something that could work. It was a fun video though!

[@JerryTurner]

That is the most amazing gelatinous cube I have seen made.. Oh wait, it is supposed to be something else. Great video! Keep it up!

[@xeranox1]

Kinda like it dude, that what happens when you seek for the treasure, alien trap camera

[@theabarendse2410]

Noooo, Guys, It's not a disaster. You have created a unique scene. I actually love the bubbly effects. I'm serious, guys, it's really quite lovely. Turn it into a lamp. Drill a hole in the bottom and fit an LED bulb. It will look awesome.

[@andrewdavies6355]

I reckon you should give Goobertown a call to science the heck out of this and explain how it went wrong - he’s a chemistry megabrain isn’t he? Would be a cool and nerdy video!

[@leichtmeister]

... Two part epoxy gets hot while hardening. Sealing it shut before it's fully cured basically creates a pressure chamber. Period. No crazy chemistry. No video needed. It's literally in the user manual for the stuff.

[@epifaerae5100]

Not comforting to read probably... but I think it looks really awesome, especially with the lights! Don't throw it away!

[@Drag_on_king]

I still think it looks incredible cool. Not as intended and for your hard work I wish it would have, but it cinda makes the underwater area look like dangerous ice caves. Or a gelatin club that had many die because the fell in and didn't get out anymore.

[@thomasschulz3509]

I meannn. It’s still pretty sick…just looks like turbulent water

[@warbanda]

love you all

[@Vaderian88]

Such a shame it turned out like this... But never fear, you have learnt something for next time. Hope you will redo this a layer at a time.

[@TheBeardedDwarf]

I'd love to see this redone if possible, the idea and the aesthetics are awesome.

[@kylecampbell6715]

Yeah same, I'd love them to learn how to use resin properly and give this another crack.

[@SuperWillieL]

I agree

[@k23Mordred]

+1

[@Zach010ROBLOX]

I think with the toy testing Jazza did in his recent video, the TTT team might be able to use that process to make more heat resistant diorama minis. And use a hefty mini fridge

[@michaw.2168]

Yes please!!

[@Gray777333]

You can just imagine that the "failure" is just what opening Pandora's Box looks like. The artifact treasures inside the box had within it demonic warp tented objects and opening the treasure chest imploded. The implosion caused the Black Stone Fortress area to either transport to the warp or create a 4th like dimension. I think you could make up some interesting head cannon thoughts around this "mistake." All I would do is clean up the sides paint it black and label it 'Pandora's Box Unleashed"

[@jensfunk8726]

Absolutely. I followed the video thinking about another "looky pretty nice, maybe some time i may come close to that"-result. But frankly, that unpredicted "desaster" looks so much more interesting and sparks so much more curiosity - and my first thought was also: opened the chest and now the warp takes hold at this deck. Just cool! Just finish it properly and mark it as a project that had its own ideas over yours :)

[@eidloi6443]

When I saw what happened I thought WOW, such a great accident, you can't even do that effect if you want to! That's legit the best frozen scenery I've ever seen! Feels like a mage went out of control and perma-froze the cave! I know it's a different story, but the mage wanted something else too :D

[@jodyknight]

Yes, that what I think too it's a great frozen lump that happened suddenly and the figures on top are trying to work out what happened there and if they could still get to the treasure.

[@alesacc]

Same!! I thought it could be a frozen cave or even a crystal cave! It didn't turn out like they wanted but the end result was still very cool! As Bob Ross would say, happy little accidents 🤣

[@crafty_j957]

I had the exact same thought, it still looked really cool in the end, with the miniatures all set up on the top. Just not the cool they were going for, but still

[@craftydemon529]

I thought so too

[@whyarehandlesathingonyoutube]

exactly what i though

[@HumorlessMilk]

Honestly one of my favourite videos of yours ever. Would love to see it retried but seeing how resin looks when it goes 'wrong' was eerie and awesome.

[@Winterydee]

While it is a "disaster", it is a very cool looking "disaster"! Side note: With any 2 part epoxy/resin pours, the larger the pour the greater the thermal output of the chemical reaction will be. This is one of the main reasons why deep pour dioramas with plastics are very rarely done until all of the plastics have been fully encased in that resin with smaller pours to protect them from melting. Resin is a very fickle mistress!

[@markhanson9508]

Thanks so much for sharing your failures. It's so important for all of us on our learning journeys to see that mistakes are not just normal but an integral part of the process. Lots of love and respect.

[@rhino5419]

Never throw it away, keep it on a shelf to remind you that when things go wrong it can always be worse.

[@jessicadey3991]

The end effect is so unique and interesting. It's not a disaster, it may not be what you wanted or spent all that time on, but you created something very compelling from all angles. It is, for sure, a cautionary tale on resin for the future.

[@83Ironside]

Chin up guys! This isn't a fail. It's a success in learning how not to make a deep resin pour diorama.

[@TFZ.]

🎼🎶"For up from the ashes, up from the ashes, grow the roses of success!"

[@wezdavies3852]

You F@cked up, so we don't have to.

[@joemacleod-iredale2888]

If you’ve never failed, you’ve never tried hard enough.

[@MainlyRed]

now it just looks like a treasure room that had a trap go off in which actually makes it look cool!

[@SuperAvenger96]

Hey guys it's a pitty that it didn't turn out the way you guys wanted and cracked. But like you guys said it was your first time so no one would have guessed that! Also I feel like it's a good thing you guys still uploaded it, because it shows amateurs like me in this topic that it can happen to anyone. So cheer up from the experience and the amazing collab time with the two other amazing KZbinrs!

[@WendigovanStudio]

They are amateurs just like you too. They've never done it before, so makes them just as much of an amateur as you are.

[@anothernerd6464]

Ah that is gut wrenching! It’s a cool effect, but it would’ve been so cool to see what it could have been at its full potential

[@JeepMan365]

The video is NOT a disaster. It is a great look into what happens in real life. Not everything is sunshine and daisies. sometime shit happens and the best we can do is learn from it and move on. You guys have SO much talent and creativity, i know that with a little more research and study of this process, you'll make a HELL of a diorama. Keep your chins up and keep up the good work.

[@G33X]

When dealing with epoxy resins, thicker castings are more prone to what is known as "thermal runaway" where the chemical reaction causes a feedback loop and generates more and more heat with the neighboring volume of resin. This sort of thing can also happen if you over-catalyze the resin (adding too much catalyst/hardener) which in some cases can even start small fires.

[@NyüxTheDragon]

I actually love how that looks because it looks like an hidden underground town covered in ice

[@Martdogg3000]

Watching this halfway through and everything looks like it's going well, combined with the title, makes this feel like watching a horror movie that hasn't gotten scary yet.

[@petehill7465]

Sorry for your loss; however, love the giant gelatinous cube you built. Keep the awesome content coming, love your work!

[@BLOODKINGbro]

Le gasp! A Gelatinous cube with a Mimic hidden inside. Dastardly DMs

[@Wolfie21384]

Despite being labeled a Fail, it really isn't. The end effect was super eerie and interesting to see, despite not being your original vision. Thank you for sharing and being honest and raw with the story. ❤

[@83Ironside]

Maybe for the next resin pour you could collaborate with another Aussie content creator who does a lot of deep resin stuff himself - Ben's Worx!

[@seanabbott4164]

Always heartbreaking when a resin pour goes belly up like that. Even if the final product didn't turn out, it was an awesome idea and I can say we all still love everything you guys do. And As Dave said. It's the journey that's important and we all love being able to join you on this journey. Love all your videos!

[@Hobbyrepubliken]

We dont have separate words for squids and octopus here on Sweden. Both are 'bläckfisk', "inkfish"

[@nobrainerpainter]

Squids can be called Kalmarer if you want to seperate the two

[@AwkwardBirb]

Okay but the fact that you still glued the figures on top shows an impressive level of commitment 😂

[@danielbarton914]

are you kidding me - this is amazing - the best gelatinous cube diorama ever. I think it totally works as a crazy deathstone fortress trap room...

[@joakimlarsen6447]

So sad for the diorama, but also: If your goal was to make an entertaining video, you made it! And lessons learned..

[@MythEthelen]

The bubbling inside looks so amazing! It's not wrong, it's perfect guide for someone who would like to that effect (or hurt himself with fumes :D )

[@daynoart]

IZZAHKOOOooob!

[@photelegy]

This is a masterpiece of art. It shows all the hopes and wishes of a great team combined with the collapsing dreams burning in the bubbles of hell ...

[@Nigelius]

The mystical Jazza makes an appearance, I’ve heard he’s a super rare legendary encounter. Edit: That’s heartbreaking. Great diorama right until the resin touched it. I demand a redo, the concept was too cool. Next time pour in layers!

[@RyanEdwardsVA]

It legit made me sad that they had to introduce Jazza as "Jazza from Jazza" because yeah he's not involved in creating stuff on this channel anymore... The channel he created to get back into tabletop hobby projects.

[@collegeoffoliage6776]

​@@RyanEdwardsVA it's very sad if that's the case. Hopefully he's able to still be involved sometimes...

[@DesignByKirk]

@@RyanEdwardsVA I'm fairly certain it's just a formality to introduce new viewers to the other people who are in the video. If this is your first video of this channel and you have no idea who any of these people are, you'd probably appreciate a quick introduction. Also ... I think the comment may have been a tad bit cheeky as well ... the point is: sad is not the emotion you should feel.

[@RyanEdwardsVA]

@@DesignByKirk maybe. But Jazza hasn't been one of the main people making things on this channel since mid 2021, and his appearances have become less and less frequent since, basically only being involved in the Primursa stuff, and sometimes even not then, such as the Dreadnaught.

[@DesignByKirk]

@@RyanEdwardsVA Yes. Be happy for him. He's living his dream.

[@akrembug]

I think the end product would have been very cool if it was clear, but it almost has a simple beauty to it with the shattered look. Almost something like a shattered multi verse type diorama with the characters on top trying to save the shatered/frozen world inside. Lesson learned, I guess, and now for the next thing. Keep up the learning and great videos!

[@mbncd]

I think it still came out beautifully. It's not what you wanted, but look at the way it still captures the light from every angle. So pretty!

[@jessiepapabear4272]

I'm laughing not at your pain or idiot mistakes but because what else can do? 2nd- you said 1st time doing this, guess what guys, that's what KZbin videos are for...you watch and learn how to do things you never done before...lol. love you guys

[@BooooClips]

Why didn’t you watch tutorials on deep pours? You need to cool it, put it straight in the freezer

[@c4feg4r44]

to be fair the resin did what resin does, so the resin went right. The application went wrong. great video. mistakes are more valuable than a success. i hope you try it again :D

[@majorkill]

A hot mess is still hot Never forget that

[@Khether0001]

*TO AVOID BUBBLES AND CRACKS ON DEEP RESIN POURS* For this technique you'll need one of those horizontal garage freezers. First, seal completely your object all around with a layer of resin to make sure there are no voids, trapped air will off-gas and bubble out as the pressure and heat of the curing process will push it out, let it fully cure before moving on. Then you'll need to keep your resin in the refrigerator for 48h before pouring, let it get to 60F / 15C or so. Place your object and the mould inside the freezer before pouring. Mix the resin and degas it as normal then pour the resin and keep your freezer as cold as possible. It will probably still take a few days to cure but you can perform a single pour (no layers!) of a block about 60 x 40 x 30 cm, possibly larger. It depends on the brand of the resin of course, but I believe MAS Deep Pour was the one used. *CREDIT TO: BM Sculptures* , you can see his technique in this video: Carving a (turtle) out of Epoxy & Wood

[@danaparsonsliquidcosmosart2669]

If you learnt from it .. it isn't a disaster. And I love that you posted the failed result. ❤

[@adapax77]

Hey, you tried something fun and exciting and learned a lot, no problem guys as you're still amazing at what you all do 😁👍 On a side note if Jen could keep yelling "CUBE!" in the future I'd be grateful 🤭😆

[@dmeep]

In Squidmars language Squid and Octopus is the same word possibly denoting the number of arms 8 or 10. 8 armed or 10 armed inkfish directly translated

[@TheBailingling]

It looks like... so, I know originally it was a scene of a like, successful treasure hunt. Instead, the finished product looks like a captured moment of a trap being triggered. P.S.- Although not the cool the origjnal idea would have been, it still looks cool!

[@dungeondragon3580]

You poured too thick, and caused an exothermic reaction. you must use resin that is rated for pouring at that depth, like Liquid Glass. UV resin, and even total boat, will smoke when poured this deep. Removing the lid would not have helped unfortunately. Take solace in the fact that nothing you could have done after you started the pour would have saved it. Pouring in layers would have worked but would have taken really good timing with a pour so deep. Deep pour resin can also take up to 3 days to cure. though that gives you more time to pour layers and achieve an appropriate bond. Good effort, and beautiful attempt. Don't let it be your last

[@LennertMP]

I spent three days last week to make a 18 mm deep pour of resin. I did three layers out of fear of this would happen and all the time I was wondering if it was really that important... I guess it was! Pouring resin is just nerve wrecking. I hate it for this exact reason! It's like an event horizon, you pour it and that's it, no more going back.

[@Tazer_Silverscar]

Chin up! It's a learning process, and sometimes things happen. At least now you know. Would like to see you try this again. I would say, not only do you want to do it in layers, but you might want to make it small enough to fit in a vacuum chamber. It would sufficiently syphon off the heat and any potential hazardous gas.

[@swagmeischter4971]

Botched my first resin pour too, the core was rock solid after twenty minutes but melted my minis, the rest stayed gooey. If this cube is solid, there might be a part you can cut out. Maybe a witness of this project frozen in a glacier :)

[@midnightrainbow6299]

Honestly, even though it didn't go according to plan and how you wanted. The explosion with resin in my opinion actually makes it look pretty cool.

[@TheMitchellbby]

Good on you for posting this ❤ this is exactly why I love you guys xo showing reality and not just showing everything perfect!

[@carlcj7288]

looks like the aftermath of not checking if the treasures' trapped or not.,., which cause an ancient bomb to go off,..,

[@dubbingsync]

The title told me to expect a bad result… but you took it as a learning experience and there’s nothing wrong with learning from your mistakes. It’s just a shame you got this result. We all know it would have been amazing looking.

[@OrcaGrace22]

There’s always some kind of curse when you’re treasure hunting. This seems so fitting, but what a bummer.

[@mirascraftycorner]

This is great! I immediately had a storyline in my head about how two parties fighting over the treasure made them trigger a trap, causing the treasure chamber to be flooded by this hot toxic liquid, killing everyone inside, making the treasure disappear forever 🥰🥰🥰 I hope you’re trying a project like that again!

[@JC-gv6sq]

Resin is always tricky, it can go great a dozen times and then massive failure or have so many bad batches you do one last pour to use up the remaining resins before they expire and it turns out fantastic.

[@adog6495]

It's a shame this failed but hey it's a learning experience and one thing you could do next time is pour water in first to check for leaks

[@tomruszek]

Im really hoping you guys are going to try it again because idea for this diorama was really cool!

[@caspianbchalphy]

Oh my gosh Murray’s votann looks exactly like my custom votann league colors (i use bronze, copper, and blue)! It’s so cool that I wasn’t the only one with that color scheme idea for them!

[@madnessbydesign1415]

I know it's not what you wanted, but honestly, it looks kinda cool. Next time... :)

[@wiebeposthuma4686]

thanks for "the disaster", but Blackstone Fortresses are meant to be dangerous. And the vid is a great lesson for a lot of us 👍

[@joshmorales770]

You failed while striving for an incredible goal; there's nothing wrong with that and it seems like more than a few lessons were learned in the process. I'd call that a win overall. I also love that this channel posts the whole process of the projects you undertake, for better or for worse, and that helps the rest of us pick up tips and tricks of our own. Great job as always guys, even if the final results weren't what you were hoping for!

[@ninetailedbren]

Not gonna lie, it still looks really cool. Kinda like someone is casting some major magic.

[@Aarimous]

IMO it still looks pretty cool. Almost like capturing a moment in time when the mission when horribly wrong and the chest exploded with some magical spell.

[@bitzbox]

Sometimes failures are the best way to learn anything. Who knows how many people may avoid this happening to them because they watched this video

[@shadehimself2542]

.. am i the only one that thinks it still looks kinda sick? The "exploded" resin looks like water during a storm. Or perhaps even ice? The build looks like some sort of massacre frozen in ice or perhaps underwater. It's pretty wild.

[@vee_tinymoose]

I really love it actually. I know it would be heartbreaking to lose all the epic pieces that were made and put in there, and I also love this outcome

[@warbearin]

23:43 Fact that he still put the smoke machine on for the reveal was funny tbh

[@Chaossidy-117]

What you did is still light years ahead of what I or your average hobbyist could do. I'm so sorry it didn't work out, but next time it will! This collaboration is amazing and I love it!

[@skuss42]

I am sorry that this one project failed but I am so glad you guys posted the video! It is often difficult seeing YT’bers pump out amazing works of 40K art, never seeing the “learning experiences” and “fails”along the way. Gives all us ‘average joe’ hobby warriors a reminder that even the greats sometimes stumble. Table Top Time is a one of the greats channel for its incredible work. I would say this video shows more of your passion, humility and character. Can’t wait for the next video and attempt at Blackstone Fortress.

[@ClaraLawrence]

An epic fail that looks like a frozen wizard hit it! Deep pours are tricky and a lot of people will build expensive equipment around them to keep the pours cool. Hope you try again and do a success story, because the idea was so cool. Thanks for sharing your failure, because it will be a (I mean this in a good way) example to show students that want to do deep river tables and when using the wrong resin or wrong setup will do. If you don't mind me sharing. Insert sheepish grin here.

[@ClaraLawrence]

I also hope you keep the piece, because it did turn out pretty interesting! I would.

[@gingerbean2406]

Oh this was very sad to see after so much work but to see you stay positive in the end and take it in stride was very nice to see. It shows that not everything you make turns out ok and thats just the reality of being creative and trying new things. The models looked beautiful and atleast you have this video to see them again outside their resin grave.

[@project.protagonist]

Had this happen to me two times, the speed, heat and smell of the reaction is insane.

[@melenchanter893]

17:09 are they licking that brush?

[@jinxed402]

It's not what you wanted but it looks even cooler this way. It's compelling and mysterious. The longer I look at it the more I want to see what it hides within. Beautiful accident, imo.

[@WendigovanStudio]

Good that you shared your failings and now maybe you should think about finding out more about the different types of resins for different types of circumstances. You should have used some type of Deep pour resin. Something like a 3-1 would have cured slower and the exothermic reaction wouldn't be as likely to happen, which is what happened in this instance. I think after doing some proper research, it would be fantastic to see either this or something similar being recreated. All the best, Diane, UK xx

[@patrickbateman69420]

*warLORD titan smh 😤

[@stumpf9449]

I think it looks really cool

[@fingsandstuff]

Massive exothermic reaction. Big pours will do that. Use large pour or deep pour resin and you can also cure it in a fridge (not one you use for food) to keep the heat low.... Pouring in layers will always end up with layer lines unless you wait for each layer to fully cure and lightly sand away the gloss and clean all dust away.

[@quadace999]

I really appreciate that you put this video out there, and that you put in the extra effort to make it a video at all! In this community, we see hundreds of amazing projects and it's great to see the process that everyone goes through to gain the skills.

[@samfoot7554]

I have seen loads of Bm sculptures experiments pourng deep resin boxes and putting them in a refrigerator to try and stop the reaction.. so this was hard to watch .. It was just like .. NOOO DONT POUR SO MUCH :') Well done for posting your failures along with your successes !

[@joepvanmoorsel4140]

Don't be to hard on your self. This was an awesome project!!! Next time you will rock this... Don't thinks so. But that video will be fun to! And you wil have learned even more. Hope you will keep failing, and so keep growing! Btw: (Srry for my English)😅

[@embee7434]

I think it's BEAUTIFUL! As others have said, it would have been terribly difficult to capture the MOMENT of a massive spell casting imploding if you had set out to do so, but look! That's what you GOT!

[@richm6633]

The wood+resin carving guy puts large pours in a chest freezer. Controlling temp and cure time or something

[@LathanM]

It happens to every resin builder at least once. No worries, just remember the mistakes and try something different next time.

[@mrmooney25]

I just finished watching all three videos and although its sad that your amazing diorama was destroyed in the last steps it provides a good learning lesson for all. Imagine if the squiddy bois went and dumped $5000 worth of resin on their 2 WARLORD TITANS without learning from the mistakes that all three of your projects went through. It would be a tragedy the world couldnt handle and might cause a major extinction event like what happened on Isstavan V.

[@feb1839]

While this pour isn’t exactly what you were expecting, I still think the piece can be beautiful if you change its meaning. So allow me to tell a un-drafted short story It was bitter cold… -30 degrees. but Sensors picked up treasure hidden deep under the ice, the biggest haul I’d seen in my 20 years working this job. So I strapped on my dive suit, and and got to work with my heated drilling unit. The unit doubles as a source of heat so you don’t end up hypothermic. It’d been actin’ weird all day, but I wasn’t about to give up this haul because my drill was a little on the fritz. Nigel informed me that my entry hole had already skinned over with ice, it happened sooner than I expected. But at a depth of 40 ft and counting, there wasn’t much I could do except push on. Meanwhile on the surface, mig and patty noticed some aliens checking the dig site out, likely attracted by the noise. It was once I reached the treasure, at about 58 ft, that all hell broke loose. A large piece of debris freed itself from the ceiling of my tunnel, landing directly on my arm, Also dealing the finishing blow to my drill unit. Nigel quickly affixed his grappling hook, and jumped through the now greatly thickened ice layer above my tunnel. The impact shattered his femur. The aliens saw their opportunity, and leaped for mig and patty. I tried to warn Nigel… warn him about the ice closing in on him… warn him about how my arm was pinned, and there was no way he could’ve hopped to get me out with a broken leg. But I couldn’t reach him, my coms were shot. So, Nigel froze to death, mig and patty are ripped to shreds, and my dive suit just barely keeps the hypothermia from taking me. As my oxygen runs out, I take one last look at the rock pinning me down. Its the biggest junk of black opal I’ve ever seen… killed by the very treasure I was looking for.

[@Impleione]

It sucks when a project doesn't turn out the way you hope it will... but yknow. Just _narratively_, this works perfectly fine - sometimes you dive for eldritch treasure in a blackstone fortress and the water(?) turns against you, turning you into a fine red mist. That's life in the 41st Millenium...

[@tyeddyedfriedgranny468]

Just make it a big ice cube? That's what it looks like , The dudes on top were too late to save em? That was the first thing that came to me when I saw it. LOL Stay Groovy ✌~N~💖~N~ Granny Hugs👵🤗🤗

[@Rainiiru]

once again i will say, READ THE INSTRUCTIONS!!! resin says how deep of a pour you can do safely without a thermal runoff, your rush to do one massive pour is what caused it to boil