The Solstice Weapons Are ACTUALLY Good

[@campolo313]

Compass Rose with Full Bore, Accurized Rounds, Slickdraw, and Snapshot with a Range MW could be crazy in PVP. 97 Range, 100 Handling, and Snapshot would be like Old Quickdraw Shotguns.

[@DrewEcho]

Opening shot with either slick draw / threat detector* Snapshot is redundant while you have 100 handling, basically.

[@jay-5061]

Slickdraw is dogshit for pvp. Aim assist matters a lot even for shotguns, at the edge of your range you'll completely miss shots you obviously landed.

[@Millkkoo]

@@jay-5061you should watch legoleflash video on erimite with slickdraw, the downside on specials really isn’t much of a con

[@campolo313]

@@DrewEcho I'd do Threat Detector/Opening Shot as another option. With Slickdraw/Opening Shot, you'd only really be getting the Aim Assistance and Accuracy Cone Growth since you could nearly cap out range with Barrel, Mag, and MW. Fluted Barrel, Accurized Rounds, Threat Detector, Opening Shot, and Range MW would be 95 Range, 75 Handling (with 0.90X Scalar) when Threat Detector X1 and Opening Shot are active. That's fairly close to the Range and Handling Speeds (due to the scalar) of Slickdraw, but no accuracy penalties. Snapshot is a scalar, so it stacks on top of Handling. It's a 20% Decrease on ADS Duration, which is more noticeable on low handling weapons, but still noticeable at 100 Handling.

[@campolo313]

@@jay-5061 That was the reason I put "could", I've never tried a Shotgun with Slickdraw and none of the other ones are Precision Frames, which are currently the best frame.

[@JDT979]

I've been thinking of Euphony with Crowning Duologue too, maybe with demolitionist (provided you have a stareater/apotheosis class item). Probably with bipod in the 4th column.

[@Dragga600]

reconstruction is better, you’d want to throw your grenade using euphony to build up stacks rather than switch to rocket. And by time u do switch to rocket u might not even have a grenade

[@novatheavenger3314]

Mark my words. We're are going to see a bunch of videos about duologue with recon + envious+ dream work.

[@xpapakahn94]

im looking forward to a grave robber bns on my warlock for crowning. could be spicy

[@Rhukzy]

1:00 you gotta get a Judgement with Headstone+Timed Payload. Enhancable too.

[@iouplayyy9191]

That combo is shit they don't synergise like they should timed payload does not shatter the headstone crystals

[@Rhukzy]

@@iouplayyy9191 headstone is still in the 3rd column and timed payload which is 11-17% dmg increase against all mobs, so faster to procc headstone compared to any Eyesluna roll.

[@Mega12358]

​@@Rhukzyyeah but that damage increase is kinda pointless when it doesnt let you actually activate the other perk since it is stealing your precision kills

[@BahamutBreaker]

Unfortunately, Judgment is a bad hand cannon, at base.

[@Rhukzy]

@@BahamutBreaker it’s Adaptive frame like Fatebringer, Zaolis Bane, Nation of Beasts, Midnight Coup, Better Devils, Palindrome, etc. it’s base stat is lower than most of the top, but that doesn’t mean it’s so bad.

[@R.aid13]

I’m a bow enthusiast, I believe this is the only lightweight with archers gambit. I’ve played around with other bows in foundry and what I’ve found is that with archers gambit, this has the fastest bow ttk in the game at 0.81

[@dirtydan4492]

fellow lightweight bow enjoyer spotted

[@R.aid13]

@@dirtydan4492 ikr, they just feel so good. I was heartbroken when my disruptionbreak lethophobia couldn’t break shields anymore😔

[@Xiaolruc]

@@R.aid13 Agreement. I was genuinely annoyed with the inability to break PvP shields on a headshot.

[@ROFLWAFFLELAWL4]

Kill clip isn't much for PvP but in PvE I found that its doing more damage than my Pre Astyanax Precision frame so that might not be half bad mixed with Successful warmup. Lethophobia is a lightweight btw!

[@dougcarey2233]

Duologue with reconstruction and envious can theoretically get 6 in the tube. I think best is reconstruction with bait and switch though. I also like bipod with reconstruction. I have that on my Crux Termination. Deconstruct would be great for brigs and other construct type bosses.

[@ismaelmatos5141]

Has that been tested for the reconstruction envious roll? Not trying to argue or anything lol I’m just intrigued to see if that’s how many it can do and what it does for dps

[@nwebb]

Unpopular opinion but Bipod is better than bait and switch. So much more versatile in hard content. You can ad clear like a boss and not regret it because of the huge reserves. If you have bait and switch your rocket is essentially holstered unless you are dealing boss dps , in my opinion anyways

[@scottschultz1721]

Haven't committed in awhile but just want to say again my friend ur videos are amazing keep up the great work

[@itztizzle]

Thank you!

[@urezzz]

The tizzle's been killing it lately 😎

[@savagecimmerian8442]

Good video. Just an fyi, Crimil’s Dagger can also roll with precision instrument.

[@kingkoltron857]

I'm going after compass rose with hammer forged, accurrized, threat detector, openings shot, handling master work so long as your shot gun is at 75 range or above opening shot will keep it at 100 because of its bonus 25 range for the first shot so I definitely want this role but wouldn't mind getting range master work

[@strikezone3115]

Duologue with reconstruction + bipod gets you 4 tracking rockets ready to fire

[@gothiclb]

I'll be chasing Something New with to the lain and precision instrument. TTP makes a very noticable difference, kinda like a pseudo eye of the storm. I also want a slickdraw opening shot Compass Rose

[@TheDeadlyefx]

Tizzle, Lethophobia is a lightweight bow.

[@db1872]

Precision instrument roles on Crimil's now too

[@kylee6051]

A lot of people prefer the less bulky gun model of Something New compared to Crimil's.

[@derek3154]

I’m mostly going for the shotgun - slickdraw or Threat detector with opening shot.

[@aviatinggamer9051]

9:23 you can get auto bipod on the dreaming city rocket that is arc. Hatchling and chain reaction sounds interesting on a rocket imo

[@Drakon4324]

You can also get it on the new seasonal rocket which is also a precision frame. Reconstruction bipod would be better for both being more unique on the frame and to get the rockets overflowed more for launching

[@austingarner7740]

Crimils dagger also gets precision instrument

[@kylee6051]

A lot of people prefer the less bulky gun model of Something New compared to Crimil's.

[@smootydk5810]

Hatchling, chain reaction is lit

[@kylee6051]

Is it? I've been told that chain reaction steals kills from the threadlings.

[@Hwachaaah]

aw man! i wish we got another perk instead of both auto-loading holster x reconstruction for the rocket launcher. air trigger is kinda interesting though, looking forward to seeing what that's like on a rocket

[@yodakyle]

You wish the rocket got worse perks?

[@Daniel-eye]

There literally no reason to use air trigger , when you have reconstruction.

[@LordTonzilla]

​@@yodakyleI think they were just trying to say that Auto Loading is kind of redundant with Reconstruction right there. But I also see what you're saying since most perks they would replace Auto Loading with would probably just be worse overall.

[@kylee6051]

I tried Air Trigger on it and wasn't impressed with it, but I'm also not an expert on the bunny hop reloads.

[@MrAndy76101]

Been rocking the void precision frame launcher with alh / bipod to slap things this season and I love it, this one brings reconstruction which I think is the first

[@michaelferrarini1463]

Crux termination and apex can get recon with bipod. I’ve been using braytech osprey with envious assassin and bipod. I can get 7 in the mag lol

[@nycromancer6726]

Thanks Tiz!

[@Bob-mm6hq]

The echoes void rocket launcher has auto/bipod

[@kellofkells6002]

Been using the rocket with chain reaction hatchling for add clear and it is sooo good with strand surge, also I really want repulsor brace and destabilizing rounds

[@kylee6051]

I wish I could get Compass Rose or Crowning to actually drop. Just 95% bows, and not even the good bow rolls.

[@thababybeastsz]

Imma bout to drop my video tomorrow theyre so gooddd

[@ammuhautaavaikene123]

Shotgun drop rates are ass. I get like 4 bows every run and maybe 1 shotty every 3 runs.

[@ocean_0602]

Wellspring + HOIL (chest piece/class item) is an amazing pairing. Insane ability regen and uptime on prismatic.

[@vectorfox4782]

Try HOIL+Starfire. Grenade regen in 2 kills within empowered rift.

[@ocean_0602]

@@vectorfox4782 Oh interesting I have that roll, will def try it out

[@KayronTho]

@@vectorfox4782yeah hopefully the class item drop buff actually helps. I’ve gotten a shit ton of class items and it’s weird how I’ve never seen certain perks from each class.

[@vectorfox4782]

@@KayronTho drop rate still seems the same but worse

[@Arturo-fe3gx]

my first compass rose has threat detector and opening shot

[@raptordoesyoutube107]

First we have the Salvation edge raid bow with voltshot. Now we have the solstice bow with destabilizing rounds. Do we have a bow with incandescent?

[@itztizzle]

yes. Can get one in GMs this week and also tyranny of heaven from last wish

[@lucasa4955]

Is the activity the only way to get the weapons? I can’t stack up resources and turn them in?

[@noble3887]

Yes the only way to get weapons are from the activity

[@asawarai]

Hatchling + Cluster Bombs for an add clear roll on the RL might be interesting

[@KayronTho]

Meh, just use a machine gun at that point right?

[@Sheikah_Architect]

Raw cat lawn chair

[@ThriveOnEgo_]

Braytech Osprey could get auto load bipod

[@DrewEcho]

Unfortunately cannot be enhanced, which kind of sucks for most tbh. Most of the community don't use it due to that and that it's heavily rng from turning in engrams at a higher price than usual.

[@ThriveOnEgo_]

@@DrewEcho aren't most adept drops rng. i mean i have 2 of them even both are autoload/field prep, and bipod

[@DrewEcho]

@@ThriveOnEgo_ not sure what you're speaking about currently, but I was ensuring that you're aware that Osprey was retired and can only be farmed through vanguard engrams, 3 per random roll. You're better off crafting the Echo Void Precision frame rocket and you're able to enhance its perks compared to osprey's.

[@DrewEcho]

In short, you can't access adept osprey and it cannot be enhanced like newer NF weapons. You're better off with other available options like what I recommended and I guess the one that's dropping like candy from Solstice.

[@ThriveOnEgo_]

@@DrewEcho sorry i meant i got 2 rolls when it was available as a reward. it is weird you can't enhance the perks on it

[@oat-ik5ih]

Getaway artist nerf😭

[@kylee6051]

It's still good.

[@3loirdsa277]

Look at this man trying to hype the impossible

[@rocktober420]

Hating a$$ dude go away

[@SquaredCircle7]

All it took was for the game to start dying for them to finally put good rolls on these weapons 😂

[@albeertwsjeo2319]

ong ain’t no way I’m playing the same old activity

[@SquaredCircle7]

@@albeertwsjeo2319 id probably like the activity more if they gave it an expert difficulty option for more rewards

[@KayronTho]

@@SquaredCircle7exactly, or at least some new maps. They could’ve even added a solstice skimmer. That was an easy W for Bungie man.

[@kylee6051]

Something New had good rolls in previous years, and Compass Rose had an interesting PvE roll last year (which is sadly gone now).

[@davidgabrieltaylor]

Nobody good at this game is sleeping on bipod. I bring it into every gm either on my apex, crux, cold comfort, and semioticon. I regret i never got a good breytech osprey w bipod.

[@kylee6051]

Can't you still focus for Osprey?

[@Ajak1033]

No they aren’t.

[@rotationalbox588]

Care to elaborate?

[@BahamutBreaker]

I feel this is an ignorant comment.

[@Ajak1033]

@@rotationalbox588 nobody is going to actually use these weapons over the meta right now.

[@Ajak1033]

@@rotationalbox588 but to be fair, that’s not what the video said. He said they are good, not meta. I take back my comment.

[@simplyfitness892]

Compass Rose is meta af, what are you talking about.

[@andydog35]

Thoughts on the Warlock nerfs ? @ItsTizzle