Itzy: Vocal Ranking

[@Marta-uv4id]

I think the biggest thing that limits Lia is definetly her lack of confidence. Ever since debut she very obviously lacked in confidence and was scared to sing live and her limited dancing abilities were also causing her to have trouble with stability, but she's definetly improving in Not Shy era and she's been gaining confidence :) She's pretty good right now and I can't even imagine what she is going to be like once she gains confidence and uses her abilities to the fullest.

[@Alysaah]

I don’t know maybe she doesn’t have confidence but I think a lot has to do with the hate she got during debut. They can be a lot of a person. I hope she continues to get confident .

[@Haobinn]

Dearestrella yes so I hope we support and give her the positive critique Bcs she needs more of that than ever

[@ctrl.f]

I think at the beginning she wasn't AS confident as the rest of the members maybe, but i really think it has to do a lot with the amount of hate that she got, imagine if instead of all the bad comments she only got love, she'd probably had gotten more comfortable in her voice and dancing, it would've been a diff story, but you have to consider all the shit she got, it's obvious that it affected her for the worse, but she's getting there and I'm sure she'll only he better in the future

[@spideysargent2474]

Noah Smith She’s literally been picked on by knetz since the moment she debuted though

[@zuleijamurillomorocho923]

Our little Lia came to kill with In the morning eraaaa 😍😍😍

[@katiarodriguez5015]

I don't understand all the Lia bashing... Girlie is a great vocalist, beautiful, a good dancer and super funny! Itzy are so precious

[@aloevera7099]

if i see a reply saying lia is a bad dancer I will literally curse them out

[@katiarodriguez5015]

@@aloevera7099 for real 😭 itzy choreos are one of the hardest out there

[@aloevera7099]

Katia Rodríguez ik like i saw the good dancer part and fully expected someone to comment “not dancing” like BITCHSUDJDSJ

[@mavel2038]

She was given parts outside of her stable vocal range from the beginning which made people say she couldn't sing, when she has an incredible voice very similar to LeeHi, and she isn't a main dancer in a group that has main dancers and one other that is decent but has a ton of energy to make up for it.

[@Frandahab]

I feel like ppls misunderstand this in kpop in general, Lia may not be an amazing vocalist, and that's okay, she is great at what she set out to do, and ITZY isn't a vocally intensive group anyways. It's all a matter of what the group sets out to do, sure they won't be able to have the harmonization and layering that groups like rv or mmm do, but give have them do itzy's choreo and anyone that isn't seulgi or irene will pass out mid performance. It's all a matter of what the groups' identity is, and thats ultimately what separates groups from each other, and creates distinct fanbases for disntict tastes

[@leemingo4427]

Lol, he just "SLAPPED" people out, having an ability to hit highnotes doesnt refer you as the better vocalist. It all depends on Technique, Singers like Lia are so underappreciated cause people nowadays use the hearing of highnotes as the proof that they are better or the best. Its just like Similar to Dancing, people tend to say that powerful dancers rather than groove dancers but like I said it all depends all in Technique. I think even tho you will re-rank this, Lia will still be the No.1, I heard that Lia got accepted in an SM Audition(idk if its true) but she didint attent...as we know SM is home of the powerful vocalists. Lia has so much potential but their songs doesnt let her show his full force.

[@PinkMelatonin]

Exactly. As an example wheein is a better vocalist than solar but solar is usually the one getting high notes

[@brianlittrell797]

@@PinkMelatonin A lot of persons think that power and high notes are what makes a vocalist great. When it is mostly how beautiful their vocal tone/vocal color is - combined with their technique and how much appropriate emotion they put into the singing.

[@해직샤지한]

yeah you're right they still improving and i believe itzy vocalist and vocal line can be one of the best if not the best female vocal group for 6 years later...

[@spideysargent2474]

Lia can do high notes though

[@snzsndr9010]

This is really true. Being able to hit higher notes will give you an advantage but it will not automatically make you the best singer.

[@ooooo-]

*Honestly Chaeryeong is the member who never struggles in each comeback, none of itzy songs are too high or to low for her, she’s always stable and can hit every note*

[@asdqweqweasd6208]

LOUDER AT THE BACKKK!!!

[@jenkairubyzkdlin2246]

Im not itzy fan but I like chaeryoung voice the most followed by yuna

[@juno1765]

Yeah true but also her parts aren't even that hard even for me as a boy

[@asdqweqweasd6208]

@@juno1765 it looks easy because she made it easy.

[@serendipity3135]

Chaeryeong is so stable and her voice is beautiful but I feel that she needs more power

[@Plutoniumlena]

As a soprano myself, man itzy's songs are all in such absurdly high keys they are really really difficult to sing. Lia definitely has the best technique and her voice lower down is so beautiful to listen to so she definitely deserves number one

[@dacon3506]

Facts, honestly I was questioning my own abilities whenever I sang songs not only by itzy but other kpop girl groups too. Not Shy was the only title track which I could sing without straining my voice 😅

[@kitkatlove89]

Same here! You have to get a lot of support in your body to prepare for what mostly is belting. Especially in the chorus!

[@selene4926]

Bree Serrano you just have good range then

[@selene4926]

Same, I’m a soprano but itzy songs tend to be rlly high. Icy and not shy are not as bad (except for icy’s prechorus) but imagine how hard it must be to sing in those high keys while dancing intense choreo

[@Plutoniumlena]

@@selene4926 they're so talented to do such difficult choreos while singing such difficult notes, icy's prechorus is so damn high I cant even belive they wrote it. Same with a lot of their songs like i dont get why they feel the need to write such high notes and i hope the girls dont end up hurting their vocal chords from performing so much. At least not shy is definitely in a more comfortable key than their others

[@esverker7018]

I've always been confused by why companies sign singers (mostly females) based on their skill in their natural voices, but then work to change their voices to a higher range or a different tone entirely. Why sign them to the label for a voice that you're not going to let them use???

[@Jae63]

I think it has something to do with group or idols image or concept they make them change it to fit the group usually because they don't really know what the groups sound is gonna be like in the future

[@PinkMelatonin]

@@Jae63 Yeah. Like Jeongyeon from twice doesn't get much lines because it "doesn't match the concept" that's why she's slowly getting more lines these days cuz twice is maturing a bit from the cute concepts

[@nanatruc3484]

@@PinkMelatonin I like your optimism haha as a jeongyeon stan I'm not seeing her lines increasing an inch tbh

[@PinkMelatonin]

@@nanatruc3484 Very very super slowly she's getting lines but I know she'll get more some day :D

[@alexblack4048]

Its mostly how the industry is, they tend to prefer sopranos and tenors/bass type vocals. As you can see you will hardly meet a female vocalist that isn't a soprano/alto, like there are literally no mezzo sopranos or such among kpop groups because they're all molded to be more lyrical sopranos very light very sweet.

[@jillian6195]

I think Yeji and Lia (all of them are tbh) has a lot of potential if JYP can train them more, they'll be one of the greatest of their generation.

[@camilarm2510]

Fr they have so much potential. But jyp does not care for training their trainees on singing.

[@jillian6195]

@@camilarm2510 ikr they should really also focus on vocals because they're already amazing at dance. Kinda sad that JYP also pushes the half breath half voice thing.

[@igot7-lu]

They are trained lol.jyp just doesn't train vocals as much as other companies apparently tho. And jyp has the tendency to give groups songs too high for their range.

[@user-tk7hg6ty5q]

the last thing they need is anymore vocal training from jyp, they need vocal training from elsewhere.

[@jillian6195]

@@user-tk7hg6ty5q I agree JYP's method half breath half voice can ruin their artists voice. Good thing moat of his artists doesn't follow that anymore

[@SuperTwisty99]

Yeji and Lia are like Nayeon and Jihyo. There's a reason why Nayeon and Yeji get more lines, mainly because of how their songs are written, but they are both not as good as Jihyo and Lia. (Though I believe that the gap in Twice is bigger than the one in Itzy.) Anyway, they are both examples that just because that smb gets more lines, doesn't make them the better vocalist/rapper. The "main" positions are given for a reason.

[@mr.mysterious856]

Chae is so underrated

[@cldoctor7097]

Agree. People get salty about how Nayeon and Yeji gets more lines, but the problem is actually with how high their songs are. Lia and Jihyo will just strain their vocals singing those lines. I remember Dalla Dalla era and how Lia falsetto-ed the entire chorus during encore.

[@eweewe7884]

@@cldoctor7097 imo in the case of twice jihyo seems to have an easier time singing high than nayeon does. like watching the fancy stages, nayeon rarely sang the "i love you" part in her chorus while jihyo almost effortlessly hit her "i need you" part every stage. so nayeon isnt more comfortable in the high range than jihyo, her voice is just a better fit for the vibe of twice songs :)

[@mr.mysterious856]

ewe ewe PREACH

[@mr.mysterious856]

CL Doctor (Lia has a higher range than Yeji) Also it jihyo has a lower range than nayeon then jihyo wouldn’t be the main vocal and get less high notes and it would be nayeon GETTing it instead.

[@reisgrimery3372]

I hope Chaeryeong gets back to lead vocal since she was demoted after debut. She’s also an all rounder (underrated may I add), she was chose as the best rapper from all the members and best dancer also. Her vocals may not be as good as Yeji but it’s enough to be a lead vocalist, in her debut, she was a lead rapper, lead vocalist and main dancer, but after that she got demoted. JYP GIVE HER BACK HER POSITIONS!!

[@lucyhwang9568]

fix on save the i’m a yeji biased narrative

[@sanspurple5621]

@@lucyhwang9568 why?

[@barbiana1802]

Omfg I didn’t know she was demoted!!! You can tell she’s meant to be a lead vocalist! Even though she sometimes lacks technique she is very stable and has a good vocal range that makes it easier for her to hit more notes

[@wannaoneforever3696]

Actually if they ever make solo only Lia & chae suit for it, yeji is good it just she's to regular nothing new, regular tone & technique but Lia & chae has some vocal ability to be a solo

[@spideysargent2474]

Wanna One Forever Do y’all hate Yeji be honest bc some of these comments are just shading her.

[@harini6092]

I'm over here waiting for chaeryeong's era where she will shine and hopefully we'll hear more of her voice

[@shesjisooshesokay1948]

Lia could be so much more if JYP stopped making their female idols sing in an unatural (for most of them ) way. Also the hate she gets baffles me, you don't like her? Okay, leave her alone there is no need to write a mean comment, bcs she can see them. She speaks both Korean and English. We need to remember idols are ppl too, yes they are entertainers, but they aren't only there for our entertainment. Sorry fpr the rant. Great video Samuel, keep working hard❤

[@alexblack4048]

Is this including Wonder Girls or just Twice because I think Wonder Girls had some of the best vocals on JYP

[@shesjisooshesokay1948]

@@alexblack4048 I was more so talking abt Twice, bcs I am not familiar with Wonder Girls

[@alexblack4048]

@@shesjisooshesokay1948 yeah then you're right, idk how but after Wonder Girls and 2PM and 2AM, the vocals in JYP took a different turn, GOT7 are kinda halfway in the WG/2PM vocal era but they somehow have some lackings here and there and then Twice debuted and their vocals were ok but it's like they didn't have the same teachers and techniques like WG did,which is funny because Jihyo was a trainee when these groups were active and she should've had the same teachers, which I think she might have depending when she started vocal lessons, because ik she originally wanted to be an actress and didn't do vocal lessons for a while. Like WG, 2PM and 2AM have had/still have some of the best vocals still to this day, Sunye and Yeeun in WG, Junho, Jun.K in 2PM, JoKwon in 2AM and none of them were forced to really sing in a way that was uncomfortable for them and generally a lot of idol groups that debuted 2005-2010 have had generally normal pitches for music that all the members could do. Idk I guess it's when kpop evolved as pop music globally evolved into a higher pitch over the years. So kpop raised their standards to match what's trendy in the rest of the world.

[@barbiana1802]

YESS!! I love her prechorus part in louder because you can hear the heartiness and power in her voice because she’s not doing some whiny baby voice! I really hope one day she’s able to sing songs that are in a more comfortable mid to low range

[@alexblack4048]

@@abige_iru27 To connect on your last sentence Itzy that kinda group too, that does value dancing more than vocals, 4/5 members are dancers so naturally theyre gonna be more dance focused yeah, tbh i think Itzy are some of the best dancers in their generation so i think they can work on other things(which would be cool but im saying they need to/want to). And yeah not a lot of idols will be well rounded there are also idols that do this job for other reasons(that arent i wanna be a singer/i wanna be an idol/i wanna be an entertainer) so they dont necessarily need to be well rounded if they dont want so.

[@cllafilms]

Outside of itzy, lia is the best vocalist... because she’s singing in her natural voice! but the key of itzy’s songs makes her seem like a weak singer because her natural voice is much deeper. Jyp needs to learn to make songs more suited to her voice (thankfully not shy was better) so we can see her true potential and clap back at the haters 😌✨💅

[@mehdialaouimouayd3037]

My favourite vocalist is yeji but Lia deserve her main vocalist position and she is a main vocalist for a reason. Can you do everglow vocal ranking please my favourite vocalist is sihyeon and I think she has the best technique in everglow but mia is the main vocalist of everglow I hope you will do everglow vocal ranking.

[@spideysargent2474]

This is an unpopular opinion but I think Sihyeon is actually the best vocalist in everglow

[@mehdialaouimouayd3037]

@@spideysargent2474 mia is a good vocalist i think mia deserve her main vocalist position but sihyeon should be a main vocalist with mia but i don't know what is the best Vocalist mia or sihyeon for me sihyeon is better and has a better technique but this just my opinion

[@ellieenjoyer]

@@spideysargent2474 i agree

[@seenjeans]

@@mehdialaouimouayd3037 I think Sihyeon and Mia are really really close in terms of vocal skills, but I think they placed Sihyeon as a lead vocal, because the gap between Sihyeon and Aisha (Everglow 3rd best vocalist in my opinion) is really big. Sihyeon got demoted to lead vocal because I doubt Aisha or any of the other 4 could hold the lead vocalist position, like not to shade them, but Aisha and EU are average at best, Onda and Yiren are weak and very below average, Sihyeon is really the only competent lead vocal.

[@melonramune]

they're after lia's vocals, they're after her dancing, like leave the girl alone! thank you

[@LaurenGrz]

and her looks too!

[@tenleeso10]

Exactly poor girl can't catch a break

[@favouronye734]

@Hyungwon my heart I don’t understand how they can be after her looks like sis is beautiful, gorgeous

[@aespa3862]

@@LaurenGrz their after her LOOKS? THE GIRL is GORGEOUS

[@aespa3862]

@@favouronye734 same I thought she was the visual along with yuna

[@kpopegghead9338]

I like your rankings they are really accurate Edit: Also you went OFF about the hate towards Lia. I’m here for it.

[@sannahbouzeghoub3871]

YOUR RANT ABOUT LIA US EVERYTHING!!!!

[@diorteez8405]

i'm so intrigued to see how yuna's voice develops with time, she has a lot of potential and she's so young, not only in singing but also rapping and dancing, she was literally born to be an idol ^^

[@kikiolivia1622]

yeah i'm very curious can yuna be a main vocal because she was very young than other member

[@arimamira]

I rlly love Yuna’s voice

[@ma.charizzejudetarre4459]

As a dance-focused group, their vocals are good. Glad you didn't come at Lia like how other people usually do. Thank you for your professional pov it's nice to hear someone's opinion who's an expert at this field. They're still rookies and have a lot of room for improvement. With time and training, there's no doubt they'll surprise as someday☺️

[@soshimochi556]

Yuna impressed me a lot with the new album! I like that clear bright voice sound. But I also like voices like Lia's a lot. I think she's clearly the best in the group but as a main vocal in the industry, you're right, she isn't in the god tier or anything. This ranking makes a lot of sense to me thanks!

[@Vanessa-lx1gr]

I really think Yuna has a lot of potential. She is just 16 and after Yeji, I think she is an "all rounder" at all. I looove Lia's voice and I don't know why she get so much hate. Their musics are not easy to sing when they have to dance so hard

[@fefa-aaa]

i was a bit scared of watching this at first but i'm glad you had nice things to say about lia. i don't stan them but i think everyone that has been in this community for a minute knows that the slander she gets is too much. i genuinely think she's very talented but it's hard for her to shine in a dance focused group when that's not her strength (but she tries her best!) and i hope jyp gives her more chances to prove her haters wrong. thanks for always giving your opinion in a non-biased but respectful way!

[@jenoscat3268]

Fyi Ryujin’s name is pronounced like “Roo-jin” but it’s understandable since u don’t speak/know korean 😅

[@hyukleberry5567]

It's more like r-you-jin. like ree-yu but faster

[@heejin3947]

hyukleberry yeah but the y is rather lightly pronounced

[@hyukleberry5567]

@@heejin3947yep. it's really difficult to spell it out because the sounds are so different. there's really no better way to explain it other than just say 류 lol. the korean r makes it a lot easier to pronounce the y after it. if you use the english r, the y might sound too overpowering so maybe that's why

[@heejin3947]

hyukleberry i was agreeing with you...........

[@urihaechani]

Aggro Jim street fighter ryu is pronounced the same as ryujin’s ryu I hope you know this lol. Only non Japanese people pronounce SF Ryu as “Raiu”

[@courtneyspeaks4164]

I love your vocal reviews so much, they feel really fair and not driven by personal bias like others. Personally, I find when groups have two members with very close vocal abilities (like Lia and Yeji), it seems like automatically the "more visual" (😒) member gets the recognition for having better vocals. Similarly, Solar/Wheein (loved your Mamamoo vocal review) or Nayeon/Jihyo as examples. Jihyo and Lia get more hate and criticism on their vocals than their more center/visual counterparts, Nayeon and Yeji. But they're all good??? I know part of that perception also comes down to fitting a group's concept like a glove (Nayeon) and belting (Yeji/Solar) v. vocal tone and flavor (Lia/Wheein) It's sad to see members like Lia getting hate online when clearly she is Itzy's main vocal for a reason, and the best thing to do is root for everyone to improve and grow in their vocals and careers.

[@anotheridiotontheinternet6136]

I've never seen Jihyo get hate for her vocals...in fact I've seen the opposite, as Jyp gives Nayeon constantly the most lines.

[@spideysargent2474]

Ellie Apostolidi Jihyo actually recieved a lot of hate from knetz during 2016 for being a weak main vocalist.

[@anotheridiotontheinternet6136]

@@spideysargent2474 Oh yeah in that one king of masked singer performance...sorry I forgot 😅 I was thinking of something more constant or in the present

[@funkystyle7249]

The 2 pairs are not at the same level Lia>> Yeji (despite Lia not a reliable stable dancing singer) and Jihyo>>>> Nayeon based on vocal technicality. In fact in Twice, its Jeongyeon who is closer to Nayeon technically, both of them are basically at the same level, while Jihyo is still much higher than the 2. But I understand why people think so cuz Jihyo and Nayeon sing alot, have similar kind of lines and are stable, can interchange lines.

[@courtneyspeaks4164]

@@funkystyle7249 I agree that they are not at the exact same level. Lia is a stronger/more developed artist IMO, but Lia and Yeji are the two strongest singers in Itzy. I think comparing/contrasting the relationship between their vocal talents within the scope of Itzy is still fair. As for Jihyo/Nayeon, I agree that Jeongyeon is a better vocalist than Nayeon. That said, I've seen more comparison between Jihyo/Nayeon. This plays into what I was saying about how a "more visual" or center individual faces less criticism or critique for their vocals than their more vocally developed but "less visual" counterpart. Jeongyeon is a better singer, I agree, but she does not get near enough attention or commentary at all. She doesn't really work as an example, since I rarely, if ever, see her compared to Jihyo. I'm sure the are more and better examples, but it really bothers me to see individuals like Lia being torn down for not being "visual" enough.

[@ZA-fd1fc]

Would you maybe do a little special video where you rank 4th gen groups overall vocals? Or with the most potential. The 4th generation gets many shit for their vocals, even though many of them are like 1 year into their career.

[@sogeun_kim]

1. 15:50 리아 Lia 2. 11:48 예지 Yeji 3. 8:15 채령 Chaeryeong 4. 4:42 유나 Yuna 5. 1:01 류진 Ryujin

[@vessg221]

I really enjoyed this analysis for Itzy because considering they’re rookies and more dance heavy, I think we can all agree they are good vocalists and the future is going to be great for them. One of the key features of this video that I can appreciate is how he talked about Lia’s confidence issue and her bullying. Yes yes, this is a vocal ranking but everyone *confidence is key.* Confidence can have effect on anything and that especially includes singing. The people who say bad shit about Lia are the people who don’t realize that a lot of Itzy’s songs aren’t in keys that can showcase her best regardless of her singing well still. If she’s not confident with herself then how can she improve? And not only is it about her singing, it’s her dancing too she’s not confident about and she’s said it herself. It’s hard for her or anyone to ignore the criticism because she’s a Kpop idol and we all know how it is in the industry. This is only the beginning for her and her group. As time goes on, they’ll continue growing and learning and experimenting with what they can do. I’d rather have what Lia’s given us so far than nothing at all. She’s a great vocalist and can only get better. She’s amazing and can only become more amazing if we don’t ruin her mental health. So as he said in the video, everyone should just stop the hate over the littlest things, nobody is perfect

[@luvieluv3956]

Hi, I loved this video! Many people say that Lia's vocals are not good or that she does not deserve the position of main vocalist, but I think in the last era she showed how good she is. By the way, I speak spanish and your accent is a bit difficult to understand hahaha

[@lauuwura]

Omg, x2 but I love these videos

[@hugoacevedo6134]

X3. But his accent is very useful to learn 😂 English and vocals 👌

[@luvieluv3956]

@키미 si hablas español contestame en español ahre JAJAJA. Lo que pasa es que he aprendido inglés con el acento americano, aún así no hablo muuy fluidamente pero puedo entender. A el acento de el lo entiendo un poco pero necesito escuchar unas cuantas veces más algunas partes para saber exactamente que está diciendo. Por eso comúnmente pongo los subtitulos automáticos, pero hay veces en que no me salen:(

[@hugoacevedo6134]

@@luvieluv3956 lo bueno de estar en la época del internet es que puedes buscar videos de distintos orígenes, así aprender a entender distintos acentos se hace muchísimo más fácil ❤️✨

[@luvieluv3956]

@@hugoacevedo6134 ¡totalmente! de hecho jamás he estudiado inglés en un instituto o algo así. Aprendí inglés viendo películas y videos en inglés (con los subtitulos en español) y poco a poco fui aprendiendo. La verdad creo que es incluso mucho más eficiente que estudiar con un libro.

[@dinamukharaeva4815]

Thank you for explaining why Yeji has most of the lines! I hope, people will stop hating her because of it. By the way, “not shy” was definitely Lia’s era! Love them all❤️❤️❤️

[@liijuu8736]

I know that some non-english native speakears can have some troubles to understand your accent, but I find it so beautiful🥺👍 continue the good job!!! You gooo!

[@liijuu8736]

I’m not a native speaker either 😅

[@sunmiswashingmachine]

I'm not a native speaker aswell but I can perfectly understand him because somehow my accent is kinda like his.

[@javig688]

Sunmi's washing machine Same! Besides that he has an overall nice pronunciation 👌🏼 I have a harder time understanding irish accent and some aussies ytbers

[@sunmiswashingmachine]

@@javig688 my brain just freezes when irish people talk fast

[@javig688]

Sunmi's washing machine yeah ikr!! It’s so hard to tell what they’re actually saying 😂 Allegedly the same happens when people hear chilean spanish. We use a lot of slang, pronounce terribly and speak super fast 😅

[@nanatruc3484]

THANK YOU! Lia is by far my favorite main vocalist from the 4th generation just because of that one cover she did predebut, the amount of personality in her voice and her mezzo range is just soooo refreshing in this industry. Sadly as much as I love Itzy songs it's so frustrating to hear Lia parts cause it's obvious she's struggling and I don't get why their producers don't realise how much they're setting her up to criticism and, most importantly, wasting her potential.

[@izonexbae]

I don’t think Lia is a mezzo soprano, she’s 99% a soprano but she’s just not a good belter due to her chest register not being as full when she wants to mix and rather switches way too much in her head. I pretty much agree; *1.Lia* She’s without a doubt the best vocalist in the group with the most abilities, her support is solid and is the most consistent and proper. Her placement can sound very nice but when she goes higher she can get very whiny, her placement is def better than Yeji’s due to her being more forward in comparison to Yeji. Overall Lia is a decent main vocal but she’s just a bad belter and she tends to switch into her upper register or just go very heady which isn’t unhealthy but can’t sound as climatic and that’s why Yeji gets the most ad libs ect. *2.Yeji* Without a doubt thas the most ease in the upper 5th octave and does the best from all the members in itzy, her voice has this clear and vibrant sound to it when she goes higher and rather than just having a plain high note she knows how to add all the stylistic approaches. Overall she’s definitely deserving of being the first lead vocal, but Yeji has some issues with her sound becoming a bit too shouty and with her breath management not being as properly developed in comparison to Lia. 3.Chaeryeong The most consistent member while performing live and she is the more confident vocalist with Yeji, her voice sounds very nice in her mid range with some support being present and although not as developed as Yeji’s it’s still much present. Overall a great sub vocalist but likewise to Yeji she can get a bit shouty aswell and shows some issues with her tone production becoming very flat, her not having much freedom in her voice is slso restricting her sound from resonating in the audiences ears. She’s the only member who uses the half air half sound technique the most but that’s also due to her sound being like that even before debut. Yuna>Ryujin

[@ellieenjoyer]

i thought yeji was more consistent than chaery.....

[@izonexbae]

@@ellieenjoyer i think Chae is the most consistent performer in itzy, not anything technical but rather that she delivers her lines the best while performing due to her stamina and little amoutn of lines

[@kyleighcomer8585]

I like how you provide constructive criticism for idols and thoroughly explain your analysis of each singer. I love your videos!! 😄

[@asdqweqweasd6208]

Some people making down Lia but little did they know, Lia has a very good technique. It's not shown while performing because as you can see, Lia is more relax in singing if she's not moving. Lia has a very good tone, so soothing and relaxing. Lemme add this underrated idol, Chaeryeong. This girl is really all rounder. She can slay dance, she can sing without trouble, she can rap. I don't know why JYP always doing dirty to this all rounder girl. She doesn't deserve this type of treatment.

[@OpinionatedMatt]

Yeji is my bias in Itzy and one of my favourite overall idols.

[@melonramune]

why do i feel so much more proud of my bias after you praise them haha. yeji really is an all rounder, she reminds me of seulgi who is my other ult

[@kennyl5734]

Appreciated your part about Lia :D I'm pretty sure the majority of netizens were mostly ripping her for her dance abilities/efforts rather than her vocal ability, but both definitely affected her confidence. Nonetheless loved how you addressed it, great analysis!

[@harini6092]

1:10 *Everybody liked that* Edit: 17:45 *EVERYBODY LOVED THAT*

[@lalalilala1579]

I really hope lia gets to see this video somehow. I think she really should and needs to hear this. She's a great vocalist and deserves so much praise!

[@reve004]

Thank you for making this, Itzy are full of all- rounders. Like you said Ryujin has a lot of potential. I think with even more training on her vocals. She could be a Lead Vocalist in another group. Sam could I ask you, with every Comeback, could Yuna become a Lead/Main Vocalist, with more years to come with training and as she grows with her voice.

[@sambradley8297]

Main. Probably not. But with the key she can sing in, I don't see why she couldn't be a lead vocalist at some point.

[@reve004]

Sam Bradley first, I am surprised you answered me back, thank you for reading my question, because Ive thought with every comeback her vocals are getting better each one, or being showed more that she can be one, I kind of knew she has the vocal ability, all of ITZY with more training, can be unstoppable

[@hideInbushTT]

Yuna is gonna be really big in the future.

[@lindsay5601]

Great ranking! I wasn't the most excited about this ranking because I basically already knew what the ranking was, but now I'm really glad you made it. Everything you said on their voices was great, especially Lia. They really don't deserve all of the hate they get for their vocals. They're only 4 releases into their career and are a dance centered group, for this they do a great job. Lia has gotten an absurd amount of hate when she hasn't done anything wrong. Her vocal style doesn't naturally fit Itzy's high and more shouty type way of singing and she's doing a good job of adjusting to it. I hope she gets more lines like the ones from Not Shy in the future to better show of her vocals.

[@carawang5142]

I’m so glad you called out the people hating on Lia. She deserves better and I’m glad that she seems to be gaining more confidence lately

[@rafaelaxavier886]

FINALY! i love your analyses and i think for itzy yeji has one for the best vocals for the music

[@starxmon]

i know yuna is only 4th but i was really impressed by her vocals in the live stages for their new comeback esp Be In Love

[@catrina1589]

Not sure if I’m imagining things but I feel like you’ve also learned more while making this series. I feel like you go into more detail now, from before you mainly talked about cord closure and passaggio navigation, but now you also talk about things likes what’s wrong with placement or what they could’ve done instead and why their voices are they way they are and stuff. I suddenly can’t remember what else 😅

[@myragingwhormoans]

lia's voice is so ridiculously beautiful, dude. also cool that you're ryujin biased, she's been attacking my bias list recently 😳😳

[@fvbinu]

GFRIEND is going to be so exciting...can’t wait you to see Yuju’s Navillera solo performance and her highnote in Time For The Moon Night as well as Eunha’s and SinB’s highnotes in Sunrise 👀👀

[@kirakiesel8416]

Thank you so much for reacting to all these girl groups, they are so many amazing vocals by woman in kpop. I am hoping for oh my girl and gfriend next because they are amazing vocally!

[@maxie_is_well5521]

Yuna has such an openness and brightness as she goes higher than i'm excited to see as she gets older

[@harrisonhawker8247]

Is it only me who reaaaalllly loves Yunas voice? I'm not normally a fan of nasal/high voices, but I love hers, and her lower key sounds sooo good too

[@Sammmm85]

nope you are not alone.. i love yuna, yeji and lia's voice so much.. you know why i love yuna's voice..bcz my fav voice in twice is sana(also nayeon)😁 and she remind me of her..i think their voices are little bit similar..

[@deon5021]

Ryujin's voice was really nice during the final stage of "mixnine" as the center, it might not be live but I find it to be pleasant

[@melodycao5376]

Yay another great vid as usual. I hope Lia gets her confidence back soon :( Can't wait for Gfriend!

[@VideosForYou90]

Great analysis and video! I've been learning a lot from your videos the past few months :) And I completely agree with your ranking! A lot of Itzy fans tend to rank Yeji first cause she is able to sing high notes and is stable & also Yuna last since they think whiny/squeeky voice = worst vocalist. But Lia deserves the first rank and Yuna is better than some may think. I'm very excited for their improvement and future overall, Itzy is my favorite rookie girl group with Everglow right now. Could you maybe do a ranking for Everglow as well in the future? Cause they haven't really shown their vocals and potential so far but I'm really curious about them.

[@user-lg6qr2bh9f]

If they could somehow get Yuna to be able to support someday she would be unstoppable. She has a really great vocals in the 5th octave and a good belt, I want to see so much more from her in the future

[@VideosForYou90]

@@user-lg6qr2bh9f Totally agree!

[@eyy805]

Lia may have the least fans in the group but her vocals is the biggest impact on the group. I hope she's okay from the hate and criticisms from toxic people. Fighting Lia ❤

[@tinygiraffe6630]

Hi! I love all your videos so much! I was wondering if maybe one day you could do Bvndit? They debuted around the same time as groups such as Itzy, Izone, etc. They aren't overly well known but I like to think their vocals are quite different to each other and interesting. But super excited for Gfriend next time round!

[@orpheus2724]

The ryunjin hype in the opening honestly made the entire video. Great analysis as always :)

[@luigifarts]

yay !!! was excited for this one :))

[@russelljuderodriguez3086]

I hope you do loona or iz*one soon. 😔✊✊✊❤

[@SKYBLUE-ld5kj]

Yeay especially izone since theyre many fans debate about it

[@anotheridiotontheinternet6136]

Please do Izone...they've improved so much since pd48 and honestly their vocal line is strong in terms of kpop

[@vanhminglianitochhawng3209]

IZONE vocal line is like this im pretty sure 1) Yuri 2)Eunbi 3)Yena/Chaewon 4)Chaeyeon 5)Yujin

[@mr.mysterious856]

Why’s chae so underrated when mentioning her singing.

[@straysquirrel367]

So many people place Lia second forgetting that shes main vocalist for a reason. Lia is my bias in Itzy and I love her so much. Thank you for giving our girl Lia the recognition she deserves and thank you for defending her. She deserves so much love ❤️

[@icegirl9268]

I am absolutely in LOVE with your explanations regarding the vocal aspects of every idol that you’ve evaluated. Now I want some technique videos on how you can become a (or a better) singer. 🙏🏾

[@chrishiraldo06]

yayy i’m so happy!! loona was the runner up on the last poll will you do them next?

[@spideysargent2474]

Thank you I’m so tired of people saying that Yeji should be the main vocal instead of Lia.

[@latamaquino]

love how the main dancers are all-rounders

[@dylanquinn7]

Love this!! Could you do Niziu?

[@Hannah-ny5uq]

Do you think you’ll ever do a BTS vocal ranking? I would really like to see how you would rank their vocalists and the vocal potential of the rappers especially since they have started singing more in their recent stuff. Great video, good on you for defending Lia, she is fantastic!

[@esverker7018]

From my memory he made one but wasn't satisfied with it so he got rid of it. But my memory could be wrong

[@rafaelaxavier886]

@@esverker7018 yeah you right, i hope he make one in future

[@yuqiidle722]

ikr, no one can rank bts properly especially between jimin, tae and jin, because i feel like we all know jk is the best in bts but after him i wanna see an explanation of their voices

[@Hannah-ny5uq]

yuqiidle exactly, I think we all realize that technicality wise jk has an amazing almost perfect voice but I really want his opinion on the other three especially Jin who I feel is extremely underrated.

[@Hannah-ny5uq]

E Sverker I wish he would make another one!

[@chaeyoungsstrawberryfarm3327]

I swear I’ve made so many presentations for imaginary audiences saying exactly everything you said about Lia. THANK YOU❤️

[@jayhoon_supremacy6913]

Chaeryeong is an all rounder,,definitely deserves more appreciation for her talent in dancing+singing

[@Bohbohboh_36373]

Stop victimizing chae. She is very appreicated especially during this last comeback

[@duongang4333]

@@Bohbohboh_36373 urgh nobody victimizing anyone's chill out !

[@jayhoon_supremacy6913]

@@Bohbohboh_36373 ? I'm sorry if it seemed that way but i was just trying to praise her. And yeah,more ppl are noticing her this cb which is great!

[@JuliaTDI23]

True.

[@louishhenson]

Lia and Jeongyeon has a similar situation, its just that Lia is forced to sing in a super high notes while JY is not. I feel very sad for Lia as you can clearly see that she wants to show her best its just that not every song of Itzy is on her range. Not Shy Album really showed how her voice should be. I’m excited for her this new album that’s coming this 30th April

[@catrina1589]

this came out sooner than I expected! I think they’re pretty decent as rookies of this generation which is more focused on dance than vocals. Out of jyp groups I think they don’t follow the half air half sound as much as others which I personally prefer since it’s actually not that a great of a technique to begin with.

[@izonexbae]

Yeah it’s pretty much just a stylistic effect JYP wants his idols to put out in their songs, it’s mostly Chaeryeong who is the one who uses it alot in ITZY but her voice itself was more airy than the rest pre debut similar to her sister

[@edo27]

preach sam, PREACH! Lia is amazing , and stop apologizing on behalf of Lia !!! That wasn't even a rant lol. You were just being serious on a serious topic for a few minutes, not a rant.

[@sms5879]

Amazing video! I agree with everything you said and really hope that people can let Lia be able to sing without being given hateful/unjustified criticism. I feel like it probably affects her confidence in her singing ability and that makes me really disappointed.

[@04Ammy04]

Omg I never heard Lia sing in her natural key so I never realized how much vocal talent she has. Thanks for highlighting it. A lot of these songs aren't suited to her and wow she's super.

[@andallthatjazz5796]

I don't know this group very well, but it's great that you stood up for Lia. Some idols end up in a hate mob for absolutely no reason and Lia is one of them.

[@TheFearlessSquirrel]

I LOVE CHAERYEONG!

[@mr.mysterious856]

Me too

[@jkjksbsbwywyhnhnnknk5319]

If I see anyone shading my baby Lia here I'm coming for you.

[@RiRi-ku6xz]

I changed my mind about lia when I watched that cover of price tag It was clear she's the best in itzy

[@chaeyoungslovie]

Yeji is very confident in her singing, and it shows because her voice is very projected, strong, charismatic, and stable.

[@raniaishere5036]

Lia really deserves to be the main vocalist

[@AshishKumar-zi1ir]

Sam, when are you gonna rank IZ*ONE? I honestly can't wait for that.......

[@fizzyfuzz5878]

100% agree with your rankings. It's amazing Yeji is the best dancer and almost the best singer. But during Icy's bridge you understand Lia has the strongest voice.

[@ji-soopark57]

This is the same ranking I was thinking too! Also ryujin is pronounced like yoojin with rolled r in front

[@hectorjose6009]

Subscribed he's honest and knows what he is talking about

[@Saeniver]

I think Lia would be much happier singing with a group like MAMAMOO, she could learn the confidence with them, as their songs are better suited for lower voices... And they all share the same level of being a cute dork

[@mdorrdar3656]

thank you for your amazing explanations, they are so professional and complete best channel

[@derpface5156]

Lia has a very beautiful singing style and it really adds flavor to the songs. I’d give her musicality a 10 imo. Her vocal timbre is another advantage she has. If she could make her placement a little more forward, then she’d definitely be one of the best vocalist in the 4th gen, but figuring out how to control your voice placement isn’t easy and would need a good vocal coach to guide you so it’s understandable

[@stanstayc367]

Can you make a ranking later on of all the female singers that you placed in first? Like, gathering the best singers of each girl group and ranking them

[@hhol8]

I’m so glad you made a ranking video for ITZY. I was wondering what your opinion was. I agree that kpop songs, specially ITZY’s are extremely high which Lia isn’t use to (ie. her predebut stuff) which is why I really love the new album “Not Shy”. The keys for the songs are still pretty high but we DO get to hear more of her lower tone & it seems she’s way more confident now than when they debuted last year

[@mimijoji4845]

i think a lot of people bash itzy for their vocals, but they’re actually pretty good! they’re just not perfect for idol vocal standards. for a new video, i think imfact would be really interesting to look at!

[@cheryltang9680]

I agree that Lia is the best vocalist too!! She has better technique and voice. It's just that Itzy song genre does not really suitable to her voice. She is definitely my bias! 😁

[@zukogf2337]

can you please do treasure from YG? they just debuted recently and they have 3 (unofficial) main vocals and a great vocal line

[@eviegordine9098]

Yesssssssss. Lia is amazing and i hate that people attack idols when they have worked so hard. Its so unnecessary.

[@rica_ria]

Yay Sam is back🥳 hope you're doing well!

[@cloud-id9nt]

hellooo 🥳 i discovered your channel not much time ago and i really really love it???? i also love analyzing vocals so it is super fun watching your videos!!!! i would be very happy if you ranked rocket punch and drippin (in the future after their debut dksjsjsjsj) 🥺💝🥺💝

[@JiaPia3]

I like your videos. Thank you for your expert opinion. I trust you rather than my ears because you are objective rather than my subjective. People need to understand. If the person everyone screams someone should be higher, you would put them there if it *were the truth*. Ryujin is your ultimate bias, but you know where she belongs, objectively.

[@mahletabebe2802]

may u do Everglow?

[@kyrichardson1331]

Yesssssss!!! This is what we need!!

[@Mrsuperdestroyer]

Please do Gfriend next, really don't know how you would rank them so would be interesting to see :D

[@mimi-jj8rg]

I was shocked when I heard Lia's price tag cover for the first time, I seriously didn't think her voice is that beautiful bc I always heard her sing out of her range in itzy's songs. I agree she sounds much more comfortable now in not shy, she is great

[@lostinthedream706]

I'm so glad you talked about how important confidence is for an idol.

[@brianlittrell797]

I'll add here as well: A lot of persons think that power and high notes are what makes a vocalist great. When it is mostly how beautiful their vocal tone/vocal color is - combined with their technique and how much appropriate emotion they put into the singing.

[@ctrl.f]

Ok but the way he pronounced Ryujin 😭😂 all good tho it's a hard name to pronounce. But overall thank you so much for mentioning the whole deal with Lia, people don't seem to realize how much all their comments affected her confidence not only on vocals but in dancing too, she has so much potential and it saddens me to see her insecurities getting the best of her, and you're so right about kpop having such high pitched songs, like wannabes chorus it's so high all the time and it clearly doesn't fit lias range, which doesn't mean she can't sing, I'm so glad Not shy is a much more comfortable song for them and it's great to see Lia with much more confidence this era, she'll just get better and better