IV Legion 'Iron Warriors': Tactics & Structure (Warhammer & Horus Heresy Lore)

[@JeanLucCaptain]

Before the Death Korps of Kreig, there were these guys.

[@respnocza6953]

Iron warriors=Soviet mechanized forces during WW2

[@skipopotamus]

Know then, that this is a record of how fucking awesome Oculus Imperial is.

[@ftblr66]

The iron warriors are my second favorite legion because the just hate and build things

[@respnocza6953]

Iron warriors legion what makes them great especially Perturabo is that they are not just soldiers they were also gifted technologist, innovators, engineers, builders. Shame the Imperium wasted and ignored Perturabo's main talents(Scholar, Scientist, Engineer, Philosopher,Architect) that would have helped the Imperium's technological golden age since the dark age of technology. Should Perturabo and his boys been given the honor to Design, Build and fortify Terra and Imperial palace and be given the position as the Pretorian of Terra Pertutabo would have stayed loyal to the Imperium's cause despite his disagreements to his old man.

[@sonofthewolfguardianofthef1214]

R Espnocza have you read any of the primarch books? The only person who wasted Petarobo’s talent was Petarobo himself. How is it that Guillimen was able to build a mini empire and yet Petarobo wasn’t able to build an amphitheater or a palace or even a hospital? I think Petarobo was constantly trying to outrun the star maelstrom and never really bothered. Then when he burned Olympia and realized that he lost the only thing that he could take pride in, he turned traitor.

[@jakobschoning7355]

@@respnocza6953 The Imperium didnt waste Perturabos talents. Perturabo did. He spend all of his time whallowing in self-pity about how nobody appreciated him, instead of getting up from his ass and doing the things he actually wanted and was good at. He could have done great things but he wanted to be asked to do them instead of just doing them like many of his brothers.

[@tfan2222]

@@jakobschoning7355 Even as an Iron warriors fan, yeah. This is why my favorite primarch is magnus and my favorite legion is the Iron Warriors.

[@d.staten1958]

​@@sonofthewolfguardianofthef1214 Peter Turbo built chambers within the amphitheatre that the Council of Nikkea was held.

[@axelNodvon2047]

I like the music, it sounds a bit distorted and a bit disturbing. Fitting the Iron Warriors. Another point i want to add is This legion reminds me of people who play RTS games, just constant attack

[@remeythecat1502]

When ever I play hearts of iron 4

[@horkosofdonso7624]

You'd think a legion specialised in seige warfare would have the least casualties out of all the world conquering legions. I guess the oher legions only managed to conquer more worlds than the 4th did because they gave up on a lot of the more difficult worlds -handing over subjugation task to the guard or the 4th.

[@andrewpye2166]

They were trying to win, not to minimize casualties. So they won, quickly, and with lots of casualties.

[@horkosofdonso7624]

Andrew Pye if you look att the Iron Warriors in the 41st millennium aren’t they the most disciplined, largest host of space marines? Don’t they also win out in having the most fortified rock of a homeworld? I listened to Arch Warhammer the other day. He portrayed the iron warriors and [what ammounts to footnotes] of their actions in *the seige of vraks.* I think i’ve heared and read enough of the iron warriors. I also think they’re the best at winning if you ask me. I find the iron warriors are the least idealistic host of marines. They go from world to world hustling fortifications to various unscrupulous municipalities. They never leave a planet with less resources and manpower than they did when the first arrived. We can both agree they were a far cry from *the winners* of the great crusade. I my best guess id they needed a couple hundred more years go get warmed up.

[@Beowulf_DW]

Siege warfare (that is to say, attacking fortified positions) has been acknowledged by just about every great tactician in history as being something to avoid unless there is literally no other choice. Sun Tzu even advised avoiding it utterly. Even in modern warfare, having a 3 to 1 numbers advantage is usually considered the bare minimum for attacking an entrenched enemy in a fortified position.

[@sonofthewolfguardianofthef1214]

Horkos of Dõnsö in my opinion Petarobo, Mortarian and their legions were the only useful ones under Horus’ command.

[@austinkersey2445]

@@sonofthewolfguardianofthef1214 Fulgrim was definitely very useful. He possessed one of the most elite, if not the most elite, Legion in the Imperium. He and his sons chased perfection and betterment, and were the most versatile Legion on the whole. Fulgrim was also the most decorated and accomplished swordsman of his brothers. Konrad Curze was the biggest nuisance off the battlefield, capturing and torturing Vulkan, inconveniencing Roboute Guilliman, Sanguinius, and Lion El'Johnson within the Imperium Secundus, as well as besting the first two. Alpharius and Omegon were saboteurs and such. They were not the only useful ones.

[@zenoblues7787]

Just as iron ridged and strong but also to, inflexible and easily replaced

[@JeanLucCaptain]

The Stalingrad Marines.

[@respnocza6953]

Iron warriors should they never betrayed the Emperor im sure they would get along the Death Korps of Krieg well haha. Iron warriors were pretty much the Janitors of the Astartes legions(They do the most shittiest and stressfull assignments and dont get recognized by there deeds only for there hard work and credit be taken away by other legions that did less work no wonder Perturabo and his boys snapped)

[@danielchew8739]

iron within, iron without!

[@sanguiniusonvacation1803]

Daniel Chew IRON SHAKE IT ALL ABOUT !

[@Stimm002]

@@sanguiniusonvacation1803 we do the horus heresy, 'part from Dantios! That's wot were all about!

[@d.n.4328]

Sir, you just made my evening, I can't thank you enough for producing top-notch 30k content! You are the best, keep it up!!!

[@OculusImperia]

My utmost pleasure. Thank you for the support.

[@respnocza6953]

Perturabo: Rogalll hey Rogal o Rougegirl *hahahah* seriously look at here *Dorn faces at Perturabo* Perturabo:Dare to attack me on my new Deamonic fortress of perpetual pain even i dont know how to get inside of this one!! -Perturabo in Tts challenging Dorn for a rematch that culminated the of the Iron cage.

[@absolute-focus]

Easily the best warhammer lore channel by far.

[@OculusImperia]

Thank you so very much

[@axelNodvon2047]

Jonathan Rice I agree. I hope he make a video about other things than SM legions soon though

[@OculusImperia]

Mann Tau what would you like to see covered?

[@axelNodvon2047]

Oculus Imperia Oo, Maybe the Imperial Guard regiments. They could be similar to your current videos. And i really like your style, you dont just read stuff word for word

[@unspeakablegaming1015]

Imperia, can you do a lore video on the Emperor? The shaman origin was printed in "Realm of Chaos : The lost and the Damned" starting page 174 - First edition Rogue Trader published 1990. Realm of Chaos : The lost and the Damned can be read on Scribd, bought on eBay. eBay has hefty prices for Realm of Chaos : The lost and the Damned, so pdf on Scribd is certainly cheaper. Relevant pages are 174 to 188. Scribd, eBay.

[@Nobleshield]

I love these. The way you talk it sounds like some sort of lecture or historian reading from old records.

[@OriginalDecurse]

Love these videos man. You voice is like butter in my ear holes.

[@JeanLucCaptain]

SLANNNESHHH: yeesss, more pleasure for the ears!!!

[@Stimm002]

Why would you put butter in your ears? Lol

[@Cynocehali]

@@Stimm002 lmao

[@jackmyers8687]

From Iron, cometh Strength. From Strength, cometh Will. From Will, cometh Faith. From Faith, cometh Honour. From Honour, cometh Iron. This is the Unbreakable Litany. And may it forever be so.

[@Xenophon122088]

I really like your choice of atonal music for this video. It really sets the dark mood.

[@mcsmash4905]

i like this style of war , grinding your opponent into dust regardless of your own losses

[@DarkSolace33]

Yay! Day complete.

[@Deradnov]

I am repeating myself, but you are doing a realy great job!

[@daedric1387]

Their greatest traits were the amount of logistical and numbers based strength they possessed. Using it beyond anything but hammering everything with the same approach though, was their failing.

[@leopoldjenkins]

Cannot rate this series highly enough. Everything I want from a lore video. And as I said previously, it's made me rethink what I thought I knew about the XI

[@ckaiborbor]

There is no XI, the Iron Warriors were the IV

[@paranoidhawklet]

You have some of, if not the best, Warhammer informational content on KZbin. Hoping to see a World Eaters or Emperor's Children video sometime in the future. I was also curious if you ever plan on doing subjects that are more 40k than Horus Heresy? Like talking about the successor chapters of legions or something to that effect.

[@OculusImperia]

Thanks for the support! Keep an eye out for the XII and III Legions, they are indeed coming. Plans for anything beyond the Heresy are far off at this point, but still a very real possibility in the future. For now my focus is on the groundwork to the Betrayal, though.

[@coolsskin]

Awesome story thanks for sharing!

[@cypher545]

My god that voice, so perfect.

[@absolute-focus]

I can't wait for the Space Wolves one.

[@mcchicken1849]

Man that didn't age well. Sorry you have to wait so long.

[@absolute-focus]

@@mcchicken1849 ill be here till the Wolftime won't I lol.

[@Slycarlo]

Keep up the good work m8 well done

[@lordtritus2261]

The fact that they still remained among the most numbered and supplied despite these intensive campaign's cost of life only highlights how powerful they truly could have been. While most other Legions end wars quickly or with little cost they were consequently unable to properly cope quick enough when the Heresy began with notable exceptions like the XIIIth due to their huge access of recruits. However the IVth's strength had been slowly bled with fewer and fewer access to recruits and the supply of munitions only became more difficult to obtain. Even Perturabo knew that his fleet could not defeat the fleets of Imperial and XIIIth origin that chased him with what he had, the best he could do was bleed them for every world they retook. For a legion like the IVth to consolidate valuable territory of recruitment and resources uncontested would allow their strength to return quickly in a matter of years, at least that's what I like to think. I would have liked to see them as loyalists who would eventually crush their counterparts with enough access to recruits and munitions and prove their "supposed" superiority in warfare. I am still waiting to see what Perturabo does next in 40k to see what more challenges he will face.

[@jamie_d0g978]

What I love about them is how cold, clinical amd utilitarian they are about chaos. Demon engines, sure, why not? Giving myself into it? Nope Perrurabo is tragic in some ways, I hope they flesh him more at some point.

[@bladestormviking]

shout out to Barabas "F'ing" Dantioch, the most epic thorn in the ass of his enemies EVER

[@juliustegelhus7822]

That is a funny way of saying "crippled traitor".

[@kharnthebetrayero9036]

I just imagine being a guardsmen assigned to the corpse grinders. You hear chatter in the comms prepare to die. Guardsmen looks behind him to see a dreadnough unload missile on his position. Dreadnought giggles inside then says was that the right spot.

[@rakshithanand8262]

an IV legion dreadnought wouldn't giggle. He'd walk into the largest enemy bunker he could find after, and call a nuke on his own position.

[@thorrinhammer7252]

Hey man, love all of your videos, please keep up the awesome work! I have a question, where did you find the picture of the Iron Warriors at the 15 minute mark in the video?? Its awesome!! Thank you sir!

[@OculusImperia]

Do you mean the very last one at ~13 minutes? That's the cover to Tallarn: Executioner :D

[@thorrinhammer7252]

@@OculusImperia that's it! Thank you sir!

[@steventcunliffe]

Great lore video!

[@tyrstark8673]

2:44 The story of this character appears in the audiodrama Stone and Iron.

[@TheGalgut]

I thought the equivalent to a chapter was a 'grand company' which was made up of individual companies which were equivalent to companies in other legions, and the warsmiths led the grand companies. And the grand battalion was a logistical superstructure for these.

[@ronj7677]

Awesome video! World eaters would be awesome!

[@automatics1im]

Good use of music.

[@Gnostic88]

Space Wolves next? Pleaaaseeee? lol

[@old_boy9030]

Iron within, Iron without!

[@nicholasjonas2505]

so basically, they're like imperial guard and astartes hybrids?

[@whynaut1]

Over 5000!

[@emperorconstantine1.361]

Looking at the iron warriors, and my own life, there is a shit ton in common. 1. So damn reliable, I consistently get the shit jobs because I am so dependable. 2. I do get the job throughly done, some even calls it beautiful work, even though I am slow. (My first job was working on connecting tv’s to new tv cables in old hotels and motels, and we had to hide the cables along walls and under carpets, and make it clean. I didn’t get the same number of rooms done per hours like my co-workers, but boss man always said that my work was “damn clean and beautiful, now just hurry the fuck up and you could be my number one.” I found a better job eventually, so I didn’t get faster.) 3. I take my assigned jobs with little complaint and get it done.

[@DeHerg]

What I find a bit odd is that their major "complaint" was the way the Imperium(more like their own primarch and Horus) just threw them carelessly into the galactic meatgrinder, yet when they rebelled we saw no change in tactics. One would expect a drastic shift in emphasis towards their own self preservation(more along the lines of the later Blood Gorgons) given their reason for rebellion. If the reason this didn't happen is the continued presence of their primarch and his enforcement of the practice, then we should've seen an internal rebellion(overcoming the genetic disposition for loyalty) as it happened in other legions upon turning traitor. But again nothing, quite odd...

[@batteredwarrior]

That wasn't why they rebelled. They rebelled because thry were never shown any gratitude for their victories... They were never celebrated, and often the Imperial Fists got credit for the work done by the IVth.

[@chrisharris7390]

Request: XXth please

[@TB-ps6wc]

Hi, three words. "Raven guard please"

[@DarthCindros]

What's the song in the background?

[@omegon8956]

Imagine Loyalists Iron warriors and DKoK working together

[@Key_highway]

Imagine if the Iron Warriors stayed loyal and worked with the Death Korps Of Krieg, unstoppable in sieges

[@eman8047]

The Krieg being the expendable footsloggers and the Iron Warriors the expendable shock troops. I'd rather my odds against the Life Eater virus.

[@barleysixseventwo6665]

So why couldn't you waste the Poxwalkers again? I get why you can't shoot the Renegades; they add to the poxwalkers then respawn. But the poxwalkers were still wounded on 3's by lasguns and 70 GEQs should be about equivalent to 30 T5 5+++ zombies.

[@robjones9128]

6 ultramarines visited this chat.

[@briankim4920]

Some minor chapter with obscure history

[@OculusImperia]

Do Blackshields count?

[@briankim4920]

I dont know them so yes!!!!

[@remeythecat1502]

Yay

[@lesterramos6468]

This may just be me, but I always disliked the Iron Warriors as a Legion. They got an admirable set of doctrines they live by but even when I tried reading through Angel Exterminatus, I really do not see much camaraderie in them when compared to the other Legions.

[@OculusImperia]

Not just you, they can be a hard Legion to like.

[@laughingman4570]

SIEGE!

[@OculusImperia]

FORTIFY!

[@attemptedunkindness3632]

-Traitor- *Loyaln't

[@davebowman9000]

*Siege Intensifies*

[@kevindonkers8787]

I have ever claimed these to be the pinacle of representation into the wh40k and i still stand by this statement, however the lamenting background chorus distracts from the substance matter. it also confilct with the reverie previously displayed in past chapters, i agree that not all parts of the 40k history are comparitively glorious, yet they deserve equal treatment. For who are we to judge the will of the emperor and its many glories. Awesome adition, yet i question the choice of making the music dictate the nature of the *facts* , instead of keeping it as a support to reinforce the strengths of dialogue. As you tell the story, you are impartial, ....ambiant sounds should reflect this? love your work though :)

[@TomTom-ur2xh]

The backing music is very off-putting.. very tonally dissonant.

[@soccerandtrack10]

😂😂treyarch.