Horus Heresy: How to Build a Legion - Iron Warriors

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Black Briar Gaming

Black Briar Gaming

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@americanjihad236
@americanjihad236 Жыл бұрын
How to start an iron warriors army… Siege Tyrants and lots and lots of guns. “So anyways I started blastin’…”
@blackbriargaming5483
@blackbriargaming5483 Жыл бұрын
30 Siege Tyrants is certainly a start to a 3000pt list. Not an ethical start. But a start...
@americanjihad236
@americanjihad236 Жыл бұрын
@@blackbriargaming5483 yeah I’ve been running 10 and I’ve been starting to think it’s overkill. I would never run 30 if you did that you would be THAT GUY
@JanitorScruffy
@JanitorScruffy Жыл бұрын
If you don't have a 3d printer, and you have accumulated enough havoc launchers from the vehicle sprues, with a little filing you can set them on cataphractii to make really clean looking Tyrant siege terminators.
@blackbriargaming5483
@blackbriargaming5483 Жыл бұрын
Nice idea! But may I just say, a 3D Printer is VERY handy for Horus Heresy. Very...
@PeteOfDarkness
@PeteOfDarkness Жыл бұрын
Galaxy brain thinking - learn how to recast. Cataphractii are super easy to cast due to being chunky (and any holes are free "battle damage") and you don't even need all parts - legs, torso (minus tabard, cut armoured one one from strips of plasticard) and head as one solid chunk (it will be monopose, but you may do 2-3 moulds, or maybe just recast parts separately). Setup like that would probably cost less than $20-30 if you'll buy small batch of silicone and resin. Use plastic arms to build Catapracti with claws, and resin bodies + spare arms + extra bits as Tyrants. Bonus - any gaps and miscasts can be filled with "Iron Warriors" gribbles, like plugs, armour pieces, pipes etc. Here is actual tutorial someone made for Tyrants. kzbin.info/www/bejne/nJ-WiqWkepiKhNU
@jamesespinosa690
@jamesespinosa690 Жыл бұрын
@@PeteOfDarkness Or you could just buy them retail. They're not expensive if you're employed.
@storm6661
@storm6661 Жыл бұрын
​@@jamesespinosa690nothing wrong with saving money, rich or not.
@StevenSattler-k6u
@StevenSattler-k6u 4 ай бұрын
I used cyclone missile luncher from the primaris terminators
@xilldon216
@xilldon216 Жыл бұрын
Finally I'm hyped that Black Briar is finally Iron Within and Iron Without
@blackbriargaming5483
@blackbriargaming5483 Жыл бұрын
The hype is all about that long slow burn ❤‍🔥
@Cilu27
@Cilu27 Жыл бұрын
@@blackbriargaming5483 just like the long war ;)
@liammorgan1413
@liammorgan1413 Жыл бұрын
As someone who runs mechanized and has dealt with Iron Warriors at events, I can definitely attest to them being the bane of such a list. Granted, I've found that IW being almost a hard counter by default is kind of the exception - most other players I've encountered usually struggle against mechanized lists by not permitting themselves sufficient tools across their armies to be able to deal with it.
@blackbriargaming5483
@blackbriargaming5483 Жыл бұрын
Certainly! The Rout Armoured Spearhead did really well at last weekend's tournament. People won't ready for it! My Mechanicum had other ideas... 😏
@phillipgarrett8935
@phillipgarrett8935 Жыл бұрын
Iron Within! Iron Without! I've also been waiting for this since your first video on Alpha Legion.
@blackbriargaming5483
@blackbriargaming5483 Жыл бұрын
Oh jeez, what a wait! Hopefully the video has done the IVth Legion justice?!
@phillipgarrett8935
@phillipgarrett8935 Жыл бұрын
It has done them justice, and I have enjoyed the ride along the way. My other legion is the Alpha Legion, so I was pretty damn happy when you came out of the gate in a 20-to-1 order! Keep up the amazing work@@blackbriargaming5483 !!
@vincemattana
@vincemattana 5 ай бұрын
Please do continue this series! Eagerly awaiting Dark Angels
@shanepatrick4534
@shanepatrick4534 2 ай бұрын
I agree, they have so many cool options.
@myrar8708
@myrar8708 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for continuing the series! I really appreciate your videos on Heresy!
@jamescarnes9227
@jamescarnes9227 3 ай бұрын
I started playing 40k in '99, I really wish that HH was marketed better for older players. This feels way more familiar to the 40k I started playing
@LordGrantius
@LordGrantius Жыл бұрын
My Tyrant Siege have Kromlech missile launchers on standard cataphractii, my Dominators have the mk3 thunder hammers on standard cataphractii. I'm going to make my veteran close combat oriented with picks, shovels and other sapper equipment, as soon as I find a decent source!
@Joe_Murph
@Joe_Murph Жыл бұрын
Welcome back! Been waiting for the series to start again . Love these videos
@blackbriargaming5483
@blackbriargaming5483 Жыл бұрын
Thank you! I'm super excited for Dark Angels in particular, so the series should continue at a faster pace now 😁
@etiennegarant7545
@etiennegarant7545 Жыл бұрын
I am glad this series is not done yet, I love your content!
@theepicspacemarine8684
@theepicspacemarine8684 Жыл бұрын
All i gotta say is that dominators being labeled as just good is a bit of an understatement considering they are WS5 cataphractii with thunderhammers for the same cost as regular cataphractii with powerfists
@demonic_myst4503
@demonic_myst4503 Жыл бұрын
I turned some the mk6 into recon units with that uograde that helps artillery be ause in lore iron warriors during a seige after orbital bombardment and bomber strikes use recon to sabatage anti air defences to helo secure a landing zone so having recon units specialy designed to help heavy fire hit weak spots made sense to me
@DaveLife25
@DaveLife25 Жыл бұрын
I've been waiting for this since you started this series!
@blackbriargaming5483
@blackbriargaming5483 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the dedication! What did you think?! Anything more you'd talk about??
@Peter-xz5dl
@Peter-xz5dl Жыл бұрын
Snub autocannon on sabres is also really nice for iw, as it is S7 (8 on vehicles) with 5+ rending. Put a shrapnel bolter on roof and you have a fast, cheap versatile anti armour, dread hunting and infr pinning tank.
@davefogle7747
@davefogle7747 Жыл бұрын
great video, cannot wait for the next one IW #1, EC #1 everyone else
@sanguinius6815
@sanguinius6815 Жыл бұрын
Great video as is tradition.
@blackbriargaming5483
@blackbriargaming5483 Жыл бұрын
Aww thank you! These Legion builds are a labour of love. Lots of research and writing. Generally a six page script for each one. But worth it!
@peterbereczki4147
@peterbereczki4147 Жыл бұрын
WoW it's been a while! :D Iron Within, Iron without!
@blackbriargaming5483
@blackbriargaming5483 Жыл бұрын
It sure has! I had to finish this series. I owed it to the Legions. Just needed to find the time in between all the games I've been playing! It's a hard life 🙃
@paramite67
@paramite67 Жыл бұрын
I love using Thallax with IW, they are quite good
@blackbriargaming5483
@blackbriargaming5483 Жыл бұрын
Thallax are AMAZING. A potential 19 inches of terrain ignoring movement in a turn, and that extra movement off a reaction. They certainly give the Legions something they don't otherwise have access to. Stubborn 7 is also about as good as it gets for regular infantry. AND they're deceptively tough. Especially if you're clever with them.
@DaLoonBoss1998
@DaLoonBoss1998 6 ай бұрын
Are you ever going to complete the series?
@demonic_myst4503
@demonic_myst4503 Жыл бұрын
I turned a cataphracti into my warsmith by giving him some sorts from the soartans general tank uograde kit using the plasma pnicle gun and some parts to make a robot claw arm on his back with a plasma gun on his shoulder
@Peter-xz5dl
@Peter-xz5dl Жыл бұрын
Not wrong on the arquitor, i used it against you in that list first time ever, and it was sad days haha
@ignitedxblaze
@ignitedxblaze Жыл бұрын
Hey we were told by a little bird you went to a heresy event, will there be a video about it? 👀
@blackbriargaming5483
@blackbriargaming5483 Жыл бұрын
Ha ha, sure did, wasn't going to do one but I could! Bit of an analysis on the meta. Hilariously, it did have most of the biggest names in Australian Heresy there. In Cootamundra... 😅
@Aethryision
@Aethryision Жыл бұрын
I was wondering how good the MK3 Army Box with the Land Raider and the Deredeo Works with the Iron Warriors. Is this a better starting Box for the Iron Warriors? Could you give a advise how i could expanse from this Boxset for a little Iron Warrior Army? i think the MK3 Armor looks way better for the Iron Warriors than the MK6.
@dekai7992
@dekai7992 11 ай бұрын
To that box, add a Warsmith, 10 additional Tactical Legionaries (for 2 20-man squads), and 5-7 Tyrant Siege Terminators. 2 Castellax Automata don't hurt either. From there, you could add 10 Iron Havocs with Autocannons, Breachers, or a Dominator Coven, or fluff like a Sicaran. As long as you have plenty of Shrapnel Bolter infantry, you're well on track!
@razalfraz6618
@razalfraz6618 Жыл бұрын
I really really enjoy running rapier heavy bolters they’re 40 points to help take care of infantry
@merrickmiller1224
@merrickmiller1224 8 ай бұрын
Advice on a 1,000 point list? I was given a Siege Breaker and 30 MKIII units by my brother " Not needing them for his Word Bearers ".
@joahnaut
@joahnaut Жыл бұрын
FOR THE IV!!!
@blackbriargaming5483
@blackbriargaming5483 Жыл бұрын
IV to the Floor!
@Tectonix26
@Tectonix26 Жыл бұрын
I constantly debate whether it's worth taking Sabres in my IW games, cheap non- heavy support tanks is a plus, but they're pricy little gun trucks
@blackbriargaming5483
@blackbriargaming5483 Жыл бұрын
In points AND monies. If you think they're cool. Run them! Never let points efficiency dictate what you play. Heresy has to be about what makes you smile. Leave the min/max lists to 40k 😋
@The21stPanzer
@The21stPanzer Жыл бұрын
Does anyone have any advice on doing a Iron Warriors army with Night Lord allies? I love both legions and want to play both.
@UnprovenAssumptions
@UnprovenAssumptions 11 ай бұрын
I’ve played this combination for a while, and what you have to realize is that your Night Lords are not going to be able to take objectives. Which is OK, it’s fluffy that they want to be the ones who murder things well, the iron Warriors stand in the back, march up the board, and actually win the fight. Throw some night raptors in with a praetor w/jump pack, take some snipers with prey sight , and I’ve been experimenting with an esoterist w/jump pack with an assault marine squad (the count is 22 models for the purposes of our numbering, which lets you pip his like 12 str 5 ranged attacks from AP 4 to AP3, so it shreds power armor.)
@TomGavaghan
@TomGavaghan Жыл бұрын
Phosphex on aquitors is stupidly good if you use them well theyre incredibly good if you know how to use them
@blackbriargaming5483
@blackbriargaming5483 Жыл бұрын
For almost as many points as a Laviathan...? Nah.
@LG-rg4ut
@LG-rg4ut Жыл бұрын
I am an Iron Warriors guy… So much you jumped over. And subterranean assault is a play style you should mention because it’s so different with Iron Warriors.
@alanarnedo6663
@alanarnedo6663 Жыл бұрын
Thousand Sons next? 🤞
@blackbriargaming5483
@blackbriargaming5483 Жыл бұрын
I did Thousand Sons AGES ago 😅
@alanarnedo6663
@alanarnedo6663 Жыл бұрын
@@blackbriargaming5483found it! Thanks!
@CaptainPlunk
@CaptainPlunk Жыл бұрын
I would not play havocs with lascanon They are more expensive than a basic support squad with techmarine/cognis Keep them as is with autocanons and you're gtg Thanks for the vid 🙂
@blackbriargaming5483
@blackbriargaming5483 Жыл бұрын
Yep! Fair call 😊
@lilburnelevel3109
@lilburnelevel3109 Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately you can't put Dominators in a Spartan. Their only transport option is a proteus for squads of 5. I have had fun with a unit of 10 and a warmonger so they can teleport down but that won't work with Hammer of Olympia.
@James-37
@James-37 Жыл бұрын
Theres nothing stopping you putting them in a spartan it just wouldnt be a dedicated transport?
@SRoseAIResearch
@SRoseAIResearch Жыл бұрын
Where are Legions 1 & 3's lists?
@hvincent1106
@hvincent1106 Жыл бұрын
Wait , is it me or Dark Angels are missing ?
@jordantomis4250
@jordantomis4250 11 ай бұрын
Can someone explain why you'd ever run dominators they seem pretty bad as from what I'm seeing on BS they're just termis with no invuln which makes them insta to every thing that can bypass there 2+ save
@James-37
@James-37 6 ай бұрын
Cataphractii comes with a 4++ save as standard
@marcmiddleton2277
@marcmiddleton2277 Жыл бұрын
I watched the Salamander video yesterday
@blackbriargaming5483
@blackbriargaming5483 Жыл бұрын
Don't underestimate those boys in green! They were by far my hardest match up at the latest tournament I went to.
@RussianBatman838
@RussianBatman838 Жыл бұрын
For y’all information (as a long time iron warriors player) pinning on shrapnel weapons is per wound by weapon, not per wounds dealt. So pintle mounted twin-linked shrapnel bolters are a decent choice for max pinning potential on vehicle and shrapnel pistols on tac sergeant.
@blackbriargaming5483
@blackbriargaming5483 Жыл бұрын
Great tip!
@RussianBatman838
@RussianBatman838 Жыл бұрын
Iron within, brother.
@Peter-xz5dl
@Peter-xz5dl Жыл бұрын
I thought it was per hit?
@RussianBatman838
@RussianBatman838 Жыл бұрын
@@Peter-xz5dl you could run it that way, but if you play fast dice you have to run it like that. I got the idea from an other KZbinr. Think of it this way, the only time you roll a pinning test is after failed a armor save, ergo you would have to roll it after each weapon that caused a wound. Example, I fire all of my tactical squads bolters at an enemy tac squad, all the bolter hits cause a leadership test. If I fired a bolt pistol as well, then, if it hits it would cause that unit to roll a separate save for that weapon. Hence forcing your enemy to roll two checks per unit instead of just one for only running one weapon that could pin.
@Peter-xz5dl
@Peter-xz5dl Жыл бұрын
I just meant i thought you only had to hit a unit to force a pinning check, not wound and force a save. @@RussianBatman838
@RichSanders
@RichSanders Жыл бұрын
I always thought you had to take at least 1 Arquitor, Basilisks or Medusa in Ironfire even if you don't take any cavalry. That's great if you don't tho, they are garbage.
@LordGrantius
@LordGrantius Жыл бұрын
The most common reading I've heard is that you must have more than cavalry, and 0 is not more than 0, so that tracks. In all honesty I think depends on your group, my group isn't going to be that literal
@joahnaut
@joahnaut Жыл бұрын
That feel when I have 3 medusas.... Can't believe they ruined em like they did.
@blackbriargaming5483
@blackbriargaming5483 Жыл бұрын
GW certainly did those units dirty. And let's not even talk about what they did to some of the super heavies...
@brandonmyers1400
@brandonmyers1400 Жыл бұрын
We Are Monsters... 3 units of Siege tyrants lol
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