CUTTING STEEL WITH A 3D PRINTED CNC

[@jonascreyns9595]

This man deserves a lot more than 200k subscribers. You can see that he puts a lot of time into making his vids and he reads every comment. Love your work

[@ivanmirandawastaken]

I try my best, thanks!!

[@PascalVos]

agreed

[@ualdayan]

@@ivanmirandawastaken I've been watching, but apparently hadn't subbed. Ok, I've done it now. : )

[@allisteropenshaw6023]

@@ivanmirandawastaken Excellent channel you have here and im really impressed with your work !! Bravo !! I want to purchase your plans but just have a question. Can i scale this CNC up to work with a full sheet of plywood - ± 2.5m x 1.3m

[@joachim1973]

well i guess he will get to this point pretty fast, since he grew so much last time, but i agree, he really deserves it

[@AbulAlArabi07]

Whenever I feel down being an engineer, I just visit your channel. I have now 3D printer, cnc and especially Red Filaments. The Red filament reminds me of you ❤️

[@westenkey9532]

I’m doing mechanical engineering because of you Ivan thank you for the inspiration

[@ivanmirandawastaken]

Yessss!!!!

[@BritalianChap75]

Good luck brother ✌🏼

[@ishankusuma8630]

@@ivanmirandawastaken i love what you and all the diy youtubers do. i am 14 and work from people like you, the hacksmith, the king of random, and many others have really inspired me. in fact i am currently working on building a 3d printer like the one you made but smaller and in a corexy format. i also love to watch your videos

[@ishankusuma8630]

@@ivanmirandawastaken Also ivan. watch out with the geared steppers. they tend to have a bit of backlash. a pulley system might work better.

[@RomanoPRODUCTION]

We will need to find a brothel to occupy all of us at once. Cool! Brothers in steel.

[@TheMugrad2002]

I started on this rabbit hole looking for MPCNC, and ended up looking at this monster. Subscribed!!!

[@okIahsam]

A 19x faster result is awesome! It must feel incredible to see one of those parts get cut in under 2 minutes when they used to take over half an hour!

[@rubixrj7074]

Awesome! Now add a laser diode head too

[@theclintified]

I really like your design, I made one back before 3d printers and now I'm thinking I might need to utilize my 3d printer to redesign my old cnc. That 3d printer your using must have a huge build plate! Great video!

[@jmtx.]

It's so amazing that the upgrade gave so much metal cutting capabilities! What was the steel's speeds and feeds? Looking forward to projects involving this awesome cutter!

[@sfahadrizvi]

Damn you Ivan, just 10 minutes ago i decided to buy a cnc cheap one just to test it. Now I have first complete my (large) 3d printer and then make a 3d printed cnc. :)

[@MegaTraxxas]

The result is pretty good

[@randominternetviewer166]

Use threaded rods on all axis and nema 32 motors. That will help u sleep at night knowing it will be reliable.

[@xandersnyder7214]

Ivan, your videos are always an inspiration, and your taste in music is great 😀. I'll be picking up the plans for your CNC shortly. Your enthusiasm and positivity are inspirational!

[@letsbuildthis]

Ivan, Nice design!! On your plans on your site, is that for this updated version? Can you include more details there about steppers, router, belts, etc? Also what are you using to control this?

[@W4TRI]

Oh sure! Next you will have a new Giant 3D printer with these same motors and belts! (Please?!)

[@W4TRI]

Ohh AND SPACERS!

[@steefant]

the belt stretchers are nice, but why not switch nut and head (head away from the belt, nut in the belt holder) so that the part with the belt can be made stronger with 4 walls instead of 3 because the bolt does not need to be inserted from the side? cf. 5:57

[@bensneller5797]

10:41 any scar fans here?

[@replaceitem]

oh boy indeed

[@GaleRazorwind]

Entering super slow cut mode

[@coreymac2381]

Great video! It’s always fun to see what you are going to create next.

[@herikcustodio5389]

Amazing project Ivan!!!

[@misteragb7558]

What are the costs? I think the mpcnc provides better value to me personally

[@ameliabuns4058]

I wish CNCs were cheaper and quieter for home use

[@gdressino]

Great music! Who is, it's on the tip of my tongue!

[@joflo5950]

Wouldn't you get even better performance & stability if you replaced some of the 3d printed parts wit aluminum or even steel parts from the CNC? (Just an idea)

[@ivanmirandawastaken]

Maybe

[@omkarkhade4602]

Keep inspiring us. Good work

[@bassamsherif7785]

Bro can you share spindle details ?watts rpm etc

[@codyrichard8053]

Love ur videos keep it up

[@hakan_ozdere]

There has to be a colour that named ‘Miranda Red ‘ 😉

[@MakeOn]

Awesome results and awesome process as always! You're eventually gonna build an actual steel tank, aren't you? There's a clear pattern showing along the years and across your vids...😄

[@Allgamersadvice]

Could you make or do you have a tutorial for the programming end? Your videos are awesome I am just looking for guidance on where to start! When you make 3D printers or cnc what program do you run?

[@theflamethrower867]

Can all these 3D printed parts for this CNC be printed on the Prusa mark 3

[@CaptainNate12]

SPACERS!

[@romarioc4041]

can you add video electrical connection?

[@gabbyrose3368]

spacer!

[@maverickh9]

you rnext project should be to make the fastest 3d printer possible

[@rstige]

Hi Ivan. can you share your print settings please. how much infill, perimeters, nozzle size etc. you have the experience with what works so i would like to avoid too much trail an error. thanks!

[@iMobileGuru]

а может быть лучше приклеить ремень к профилю и перемешаться как по зубчатой рейке?

[@BebenX]

Add probing?

[@riegerkh]

Hey Ivan, what font did you use to write miranda?

[@ONepoH]

Brazilll vídeo toppp

[@m-1398]

How do you deal with the metal shavings when cutting metals?

[@supermaninja05]

How much did it cost?

[@Rouven1997]

Which font do you use?

[@_JustBeingCasual]

Hi Ivan, is there a bom avaliable? Would love to take a look whether my purse will agree with me building this =P

[@alldecentnamestaken]

Store: "How much red filament would you like?" Ivan: "Yes"

[@Volt64bolt]

He has a deal with a supplier

[@greengate3d]

@@Volt64bolt He should have one with us! :-) C'mon Ivan, let's talk!

[@tobins6800]

easy formula for that.... where n = your supply... n + 1 = my request

[@ThunderPantz01]

LMAO. Right?

[@darkwinter6028]

You’re starting to get into milling machine territory... you should probably read up on how the big machines do things; with an eye for ideas that can be applied to your machine. Minimum Quantity Lubrication is the first thing that comes to mind; and as you’re going to be needing to run wet (well, damp) I’d also look into replacing the base board that the machine is mounted to with something waterproof (an aluminum tooling plate would be best; but a good-quality laminate countertop section would do). Onto that base you would mount the sacrificial backing boards. T-slot extrusions and T-bolts are used commonly in woodworking setups for holding stuff to the table; and have a variety of clamps available off-the-shelf. Larger versions of this are commonly used on milling machines; but they would be to large to fit under your gantry rails. Chatter and surface finish will improve with increased machine rigidity; and the thing that jumps out the most as a weak spot (other than the fact that it’s 3D printed; not cast iron, but there’s not much to be done about that) is the long unrestrained beam sections. I suggest cross-coupling them to form trusses. The other thing that occurs to me is that you might look into what’s called “epoxy-granite”. Basically, it’s a mix of sand, fine crushed rock, and epoxy; and it sets up to resemble synthetic quartz countertops - reasonably strong, hard, doesn’t warp or crack like Portland cement based concrete does, and has good damping characteristics. You could fill the machine frame beams with it; as well as filling 3D printed parts or 3D printing molds to cast it in. Just do take appropriate precautions with the sand & epoxy - not getting it on your skin is kinda obvious; but you really don’t want to breathe silica sand dust because it gets in your lungs and obstructs oxygen absorption, and being basically inert, it stays there forever. Gloves and a respirator rated for sanding (such as is available at your local DIY center) will take care of both issues. Hardinge was using their version of this for their high-end tool room lathes frames a few years back... 🤔

[@Thorhian]

And Kern uses Epoxy Granite/Polymer Concrete for their machine bases as well.

[@ameliabuns4058]

This is all cool thanks for commenting

[@MarkProffitt]

*IDEA* Use first 3D printed version to slowly make aluminum parts to upgrade the CNC.

[@orlanino]

Or to make a robot that will construct the CNC - New Generation using Machine Learning.😎

[@salutoitoi]

I think he did MANY tests, am I right or didn't I get it ?

[@ivanmirandawastaken]

MANY

[@Arekaka00]

He makes it look easier than it really is :( CNC can be very frustrating from what I have seen, especially with a super light custom frame

[@darkwinter6028]

Tuval Ben Dosa - which is why I keep telling people to make the frame heavier; add vibration damping; and form truss space frames for rigidity. It’s quite possible to build a nice DIY machine; but you’ve gotta go at it with the right mindset. 🙂

[@PaganWizard]

He didn't just do MANY tests, he did MANY MANY MANY MANY MANY MANY MANY MANY MANY MANY MANY MANY MANY MANY MANY MANY MANY MANY MANY MANY MANY tests.

[@pintokitkat]

I too used to pull router bits out of their case by holding the cutting surfaces, until the day the bit jammed in the case. I don't do it any longer. BLOOD!

[@kendallemory8455]

At least I'm not the only one to do that.

[@MakeOn]

For me it was a 1/4" flush cut bit a few years ago. My right index finger wasn't happy at all about my decision...

[@Bishop0178]

Just last week. It happens more often than one would like to admit.

[@mpikas]

Somehow I managed to learn that lesson 2x :-/

[@ThunderPantz01]

@@mpikas LOL

[@YOAownageYOA]

What is the total cost to build something like this, granted I have access to a full tool shop, and a 3D printer?

[@antonbeck439]

That I also want to know

[@kendallemory8455]

Considering that the belts alone will run you nearly 150 USD and the motors are moderately expensive as well it might be possible to build an equivalent clone for around 750 to 1000 USD based on the quality of the parts you source.

[@Mekandersen]

@@antonbeck439 what are the belts? Couldn't find it searching hdd5 belt.

[@antonbeck439]

@@kendallemory8455 wtf?! So much for a piece of rubber? So no cnc for me...

[@antonbeck439]

@@kendallemory8455 so I looked it up and a htd 5m-15 belt costs about 7€ per meter. Maybe someone built it and can say, how much he spent?

[@santinomercuri5231]

hello Ivan can you tell me how much is the work surface of the machine? also in the file that I buy I find, stl for printing components and components list? after purchase, can you give me mounting support? thank you

[@aloowakp]

The model you sell - does it include the list of all hardware required and a "how to make it work for dummies" guide?

[@Volt64bolt]

aloowakp yes, excluding the dummies guide, it’s just a normal one I think? Don’t quote me on that though

[@glimps84]

@@Volt64bolt yeah not for dummy. So couple things, the BOM is not quite up to date with this video (belts are still GT2 for example). I wouldn't recommend this being your first build. Get used to building 3D printer kits maybe before. You need basic understanding of motion systems to make sense of it all. Don't misunderstand me, it's on the higher end of build instructions out there, juste not very beginner friendly.

[@oELxTOROo]

Marc Boivin yes, I just purchased it, and even the video linked at the top of the documentation instructions for what video to use to build the machine, I believe, is wrong, as it links to building the 3d printer?

[@glimps84]

@@oELxTOROo It would be nice to get a GitHub link to contribute when we buy the kit. I think it's a pretty nice kit for thinkerers and is way more capable then a V1 or a low rider. But yeah, still some quirks here and there

[@AlexJoneses]

I like your spirit but what do you got against linear screws bro

[@DavidinEssexUK]

Amazing. What router bit did you use on the steel & feeds and speeds please.

[@Volt64bolt]

DavidinEssexUK it says on screen

[@DavidinEssexUK]

Volt64bolt not for the steel cutting it doesn’t. He shows the bit for aluminium and speeds but then changes the bit to cut steel without any details.

[@MrZX1206]

@@DavidinEssexUK That is a 4 flute end mill.

[@xXMax2000Xx]

How much will all the needed parts cost? I guess it would be interesting to know, before buying the plans 🤷‍♀️

[@Volt64bolt]

Max H. I would guess about $500-$1k as a high guess or around $100-$250 at a low guess

[@xXMax2000Xx]

@@Volt64bolt Wow thats a big inaccuracy, i mean as a student 100 would be fine, but 1k is a bit too much for a machine that im not using that often 😉

[@Datttsnake]

@@xXMax2000Xx it's still much cheaper then a normal CNC they can cost upwards of 5k.

[@xXMax2000Xx]

@@Datttsnake Well, sometimes id really need a cnc, but wouldnt work that often with it... so a real cnc would be nothing for me too.

[@alfredosanzmolina]

Great work, Ivan. Can you give the reference for the motors with planetary gear? Are you going to publish the modified STLs for these motors?

[@dapoobah]

He's also updated the STL files, but doesn't have an Imperial+Reduced set yet. It's only 30mm, which I'm finding is expensive to source in the US

[@RetroSpekt]

The steel montage song is goodtimeswithscars building music lol

[@KX36]

nah, its darude sandstorm

[@greengate3d]

Whatever it is, I'm diggin' it!

[@jonvannatto]

x2 on Goodtimeswithsar's time lapse music.

[@squirrelrobotics]

This is probably a question that gets asked a lot, but around how much does it cost to build, and will there be plans released?

[@MrBebopChamploo]

I see the plans for this cnc cost $25, but I can't find a cost estimate for actually building the machine? Does anyone have that or know where I could find it?

[@MrWinterhater]

I came home today feeling tired and rundown. My mood wasn't a good one. Then I hear "SPACERRrrrrrrrrs!" and I smiled. Thank you, Ivan.

[@Volt64bolt]

MrWinterhater why was he in your house!?

[@sagelikea6130]

Great build! Do you think think this could cut or shape 3/8" or 1/2" steel (albeit very slowly)? Also, would carbon fibre components have worked as good as or almost as good as aluminum?

[@coffinsnail6930]

Very cool but dang ya put out the plans after i ordered a longmill lol. Recomend if ya cut any metal even aluminum ya use cutting/tapping oil not wd40. While wd can help lube some it does not like heat and heat kills cutters fast. A cutting lube is designed to keep things cooler while lubing.

[@pnwscitech1589]

I'm a simple man, I see Ivan upload, I click.

[@Volt64bolt]

PNW SciTech I’m a simple person, I see trash comment , I reply in same format

[@canadianadvancedsk8]

you can use your machine to make alluminum parts to replace the 3d printed parts to make it even more rigid .

[@welbot]

So many tests!!! Seems all that repetitive action may have left you feeling a bit robotic!!!! Welcome to the bot side!! \m/ Some seriously clean results from the cuts though!! Amazing stuff! :)

[@deeareus9886]

Now make proud and make the cnc plates of aluminium

[@jgarmer]

What about closedloop steppers?

[@bigoper]

Great video/project as always!!! How about sharing some details/specs of the motor/belts? Thanks, and keep creating :)

[@McCarthyisms]

Love you're accent, took some getting use to but now I want it too👍

[@ivanmirandawastaken]

Yeah!

[@bolty1131]

El acento español es indistinguible jaja

[@carbide1968]

Can we use thicker wall aluminum tubing for the frame and also could you design the mount to hold a proper water cooled spindle. I wanna basically build it stronger then use it to machine the printed parts out of aluminum to make it even stronger still.

[@greenvill4527]

Even if i look at your other videos, you stand out in the 3D printer field.. I'm impressed.. I subscribed your channel

[@michaelkelly3158]

Hi Ivan, fantastic work, I love your channel! I have a question - how did you print the large parts without warping? I designed my own CNC a while back but could never get the parts to print flat...

[@Psych0h3ad]

Does the STL files etc also contains about electrical things?

[@PS-nf3xw]

So, you are saying I can download it an build it myself? (What was the total cost again?)

[@perrythebeast]

Your first 3D printed CNC video inspired me to build my own, so really cool to see the evolution of this machine! Keep up the good work 👍

[@ivanmirandawastaken]

Thanks!

[@atelier_Vosgien]

Bonsoir , est ce possible d'avoir les liens pour les courroies et les poulies s'il vous plait ?

[@pyro1596]

that has to be the best 3D printed CNC router I have ever seen. Any other one always had issues of wobble due to lack of rigidity with the belts

[@v1p3rx]

New he can make spacers out of aluminum and steel Woot!!

[@ivanmirandawastaken]

#SteelSpacers!!!

[@markh2005]

Awesome! Ive been waiting to see the first DIY CNC that could cut steel. 👍

[@ivanmirandawastaken]

This one!

[@markh2005]

@@ivanmirandawastaken I want one! Do you have a breakdown of the cost? How much filament did it need?

[@Henchman1977]

Those belt anchors will be a problem I think without some sort of way to clamp the belt...

[@fredio54]

Hola Espanyolo, which ciudad are you in? I hit play, and within about 0.005 seconds my wife had said unintelligibly quickly: he's a Spanish - which makes her Ingles sound a lot worse than it actually is. I'd say it's stronger than yours, certainly weaker accent, too :-D I enjoyed the video, nice work on the upgrades. Next thing you'll be building one as capable as TOT's CNC router :-D

[@MCsCreations]

Pretty fantastic work, Ivan!!! Really impressive! 😃 But what's next? A bigger router? 🤔 Anyway, take a look at Jay Bates vlog channel, he built something pretty interesting for his CNC, to collect dust better. And it's pretty easy to make. 😉 Stay, stay safe there! 🖖😊

[@NeoIsrafil]

Well ill be damned. If the 3d printed one can handle steel I wonder if mine can. Its an avidcnc 5x10, the motors are about 500 oz/in, much larger than what Ivan is using and the frame is MASSIVE aluminum channels i could barely lift. Its not specced for steel... but the spindle should be capable of it and the motors should be... maybe I'll try. Really wanna cut a new sprocket for my bike.

[@PascalVos]

Ivan for president!!!! Love your video's your attitude and excitement. Spacers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@juanperez-xn3ld]

Love it, I’m making my own cnc machine although much smaller(broke college student budget) how much did it cost to build this? And will you make a video on the software used to control it and how you calibrate this and your 3D printers?

[@MGC819]

The only way i was able to achieve acceptable speeds was with rack and pinion even ballscrews didn’t help

[@PaganWizard]

I noticed that your 3D printed parts have dark scorch or burn marks on them, and you even said that the stepper motors were actually melting some of the 3D printed pieces. Now that you have your CNC dialed in, and a lot more stable, maybe try milling some aluminum parts to replace the 3D printed parts. This will give you even more stability, AND.......your parts won't melt.

[@23lkjdfjsdlfj]

I'm happy to pay for the instructions, but the instructions are only useful to me if they come with a complete parts list and I can purchase the parts in the US. Reason example: if you only give guidance for the motor I'll buy the wrong motor guaranteed :-) Do your instructions come with a complete parts list? Thanks!!

[@pebble24]

your vids are amazing. you deserve way more than 200k subs, (well done on 200k subs btw)

[@tahoeskelly]

Ivan, I have a 3D printer, however the bed size is too small. Can we order the 3D printed parts for the upgraded CNC machine from you? Or maybe even a kit with all the hardware and 3D printed parts? If not do you have a printing service you could recommend?

[@timsumner4152]

Hi Ivan I know your doing CNC in this video but I have aquestion. What type of printer is my 3d printer considered if I built the Z axis to go up and down or the table to go up and down? XY move back and fourth. I am thinking to configure things I need to down load the config for xy am I right?

[@sk8drinker]

An idea for a future build, make a bot with solar panel and autopilot, and send it very very far, I'm from marseille in france, i can confirm the receipt if you program it to go in Marseille (or near of Marseille). you'll need a GPS tracker to be able to know where and when it will arrive. Anyway, good job dude for your channel and work

[@kazolar]

Couldn't you just move to nema23 steppers instead of geared nema17s -- gear boxes inherently have backlash and slop -- the conservative upper limit of belted machines should be in the neighborhood of 100 inches/min, there is no way to do that with geared steppers since they can't spin that fast due to the gearing reduction (they need to spin 19 times faster to get get the same speed output as without gearing)

[@sundinmikael]

Why not go with bigger Nema motors, Nema 43 for example. Geared stepper is also more expensive, but the driver must be able to handle higher voltage and current. It should be less backslash with a stepper only solution.

[@davidemora7722]

hi Ivan, can you tell me which bits you use for steel? (and maybe a link where i can buy it) i'm trying to do the same but.. i get a very """different""" results... thanks!

[@Veoduendes]

Ivan quiero ver una bicicleta impresa por ti, con todo lo que tienes en el taller CNC Metal, impresora 3D. una bicicleta 100% impresa excepto los neumáticos pero con tu estilo personal, mitad broma mitad serio y de color rojo claro está. Y para ello invoco a la célebre frase "No hay coj......" que bien es sabido por todos su poder, jajajaja. Ya la estoy viendo en mi mente, 3 ruedas, inclinación del eje como la mp3 Piaggio o algo de estilo antiguo de rueda grande, aaaaarrrrggghhhhh. Me encanta tu canal y tus proyectos eres un crack.

[@romansholyak2332]

Frame stiffness is good - but work holding is also critical as you can brake a tool . Using only 4 screws for whole ALU plate (especially not so flate) is not enough . As you can see on some cuts - material goes up during cutting. As the result you can cut more deep and brake the tool - 1 flute end mill a not so stiff. ( especially on a belt's). Use some additional holders near cutting edge - there will less rubbing also .

[@14768]

Ball screws would have been better and cheaper, since you wouldn't have had to replace the steppers. Less chatter, and guaranteed not to lose steps because of mechanical advantage. That router is too fast to cut steel. With carbide tools the SFM of your bit should be 200 if you want them to last for a long time.

[@InArhh]

You need for this transmissions SFU 1204 or SFU 1605. This config is normal strong for steel cutting of minimal price.

[@IVAN_ENT]

Haha wasn't subbed haven't seen your stuff before but been looking into building my own cnc plasma cutter and or router a d have a 3d printer already ,I was shocked when I saw the surfshark deal /ivan there aren't many people called ivan here in ireland haha I'm not used to other ivans 😂

[@dnzaysnr3419]

hello ivan your videos are so fun i will get a 3d printer a request from you. the sizes I want to print are 600 * 600 * 600 which device do you recommend or what should I do?

[@armr6937]

Acojonante hermano... Me acabo de pillar una impresora 3D y lo veo como avenida a fabricar todo tipo de herramientas computerizadas. Tengo en mente una CNC y una cortadora de plasma. Habrá que aprender G-Code.