Ivo Pogorelich plays Rachmaninoff Piano Concerto no. 2 - live 2003 - 3/3

[@НадеждаБогданова-р7э]

Благодарю! Они прекрасны,как и Музыка, которая их соединила. 3.12.2020.

[@lauramiletic862]

Genie ❤❤❤

[@IMAWriterRobJ]

I left out PAINFUL.

[@vinista256]

Hate it

[@IMAWriterRobJ]

There is no doubt that Pogorelich possesses the technique to play this concerto more "traditionally." As opposed to the gentleman that defends this as "individualistic" I'd counter by saying that compared to the composer's own recordings, and to others held by many in high esteem, this interpretation is vulgar, and IMO the pianist's version of the "Emperor's New Clothes." It iOS easy to get suckered by excavations of "genius, ground-breaking, etc." But the solo piano transitions between sections is...VULGAR. Any sense of the whole of this piece is disrupted by such horrible misuse of tempo...and adds NOTHING to the romanticism. NOTHING. As one who has conducted this piece and owns perhaps 50 recordings and witnessed countless performances I can only say....WHY? Why defend this? Perhaps for the same reason some folks call the vulgar so called Concerto No 5 legitimate.

[@Daniel_Zalman]

Because it has a right to exist. It's fresh, evocative and expressive. The "piece as a whole" isn't what he's going for, obviously. He's mentioned before that he's influenced by the deconstructionist movement of interpretation in language. He is using this technique to rediscover the meaning encoded in music that is lost after decades of people's ears getting overly familiar with the piece. Ivo's trying to shake people out of their comfort zone [seems he's been successful in this aim, ;-) ] and encouraging us to be more actively involved in the listening experience. Judging this interpretation by conventional standards is missing the point.

[@IMAWriterRobJ]

In essence you're saying the Rachmaninov's own interpretation (though at times rushed) is invalid, and that those of us who have had 50+ years with this concerto need to have it "deconstructed?" I can conduct this peace without score...and have, and though there is no such thing as THE interpretation, one (OK, ME) hopes that somewhere in the parameters of respect and decency would fall all interpretations. BTW, WHY would I want to be shaken out of my "comfort zone" when it is this very music (and other works) that, in an often tension filled existence create, for 35 or so minutes a most WELCOME comfort zone? It is, of course your right to listen as you choose, but I'll take musical flow, and RESPECT for the composer.

[@Daniel_Zalman]

Art is not about being comfortable. If you want comfort, listen to a lullaby. Ivo's approach isn't discrediting the "conventional" way. It's simply an alternate lens through which one can experience the piece and possibly gain some insights. One should always Respect the composer but let's not be enslaved by "standard practices." Ivo is not an authority on Rachmaninoff and I don't feel his approach is superior nor is it "the new way" to perform Rach. I just as much enjoy Richter's, Zimerman's, Hough's, Kissin's, Rubinstein's and Rach's own interpretation of the piece. Variety is the spice of life.

[@IMAWriterRobJ]

Well, first it has to BE art. Your lullaby comment its disingenuous, and quite frankly insulting. Your obvious worship of "IVO", similar to those who worship at the feet of Bruce Springsteen seems to color your definition of art. Yes, some think Jesus immersed in urine is art, but for MANY it is vulgar and disrespectful. I'm sure you know Pogorelich's history, a rebel without a pause. At some point or other, an artists definition needs to be more than "Ill do it MY way, and to hell with the rest of you." Individualism, wishing a loose framework of common sense and reality is to be admired, or at least respected, but I cannot respect a so called artist who feels he has to "deconstruct" a piece much greater than he to validate his existence. If you enjoy this performance, more power to you. BTW, if you enjoy some individual sparks, I suggest you give a listen/look to the Volodos video. The back to back Matsuev No2 and 3 are powerful, but for me, No2 is a bit brutal in places.

[@Daniel_Zalman]

No, I was being very genuine about my lullaby comment. If a piece of music is moving it is by definition disturbing. It is disturbing the normal course of your emotional being. It will not leave you indifferent. A lullaby does the opposite. It's intent is to dull your emotions and lull you to sleep. Your hatred of Ivo is also patently obvious. It starts with the customary guise of impartiality with the statement of his "abilities" and then goes on a holier than though rant on what makes him an unacceptable performer . Then you address nobody in particular and question why someone should defend this. You are obviously emotionally invested and anything but impartial. Volodos is THE pianist of his generation. Anyhow, this can go on forever. Happy Listening! P.S. There's no need to defend Ivo. He's doing fine.