I Pulled *EVERYTHING* for Sun Wukong! 💥1300+ SUMMONS ..Success or Sadness? ✤ Watcher of Realms

[@SuziPlaysYT]

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[@aharunadbenumen106]

Hi Suzy just wanted to let you know , I saw your face only 2 times , the first day you got the stroke and today , and I can tell you , you sure look a lot better ! wish you a full recovery . I know you will make a full recovery in a little bit of time .

[@clement4316]

I seen a ton of videos of ppl pulling on this banner. pretty sure it's not a 15x tbh and dev failed somewhere

[@SuziPlaysYT]

Yeah it feels extra bad honestly

[@mark_gn]

Yeah my guild mate did 700+ summons and didn't even get A1

[@Tashunkawitco]

yeah me too. Bluntguts did also a stream 1 wukong and 12 random legendaries.

[@shirosai615]

15x means your chances of getting the banner hero rise from whatever the normal rate is to about 7%. But I assume the rng is server wide so more people pulling means more refreshes and lower chances. The devs failed by making more overpowered must haves instead of balance what they already have. I get it - end of the day it's a gatcha game and without that power creep the whales lose interest.

[@Tashunkawitco]

@@shirosai615 i spoke to gm and this is their explanation for 15x system. To pull a legendary is a 0.46% chance unless is a x2 then its double. But once you pull a legendary here comes in play the banner of 15x. There are 48 Legendary heroes and a Wukong in same pool. Since it is a Wukong banner of 15x, in a pool there are 48 legendaries, one of each and 15 Wukongs. That means you have a 23.81% chance to get him once you get a legendary,rougly every 4th summon. And for example on Aeris and Setram banner they compete with 46 legendary heroes since Wukong is not there since he is a limited hero. That means in that pool you have a 15 Setrams, 15 Aeris and 46 legendary heroes, one of each. This means even bigger chance to get a banner hero, of a 39.47% chance rougly. But in reality as we all know this is not even close to what they are advertasing.

[@biostatsguy]

I did 1500 summons, pulled 13 Legos and only managed to snag A2 WuKong. There are too many Legos in the summoning pool now, Moonton needs to buff the x15 rate-up.

[@RokanRulerofKaos]

That’s the real issue, the pool has been diluted so much in recent months.

[@Henry-zg1yv]

so many champs, but still pulled 3 times Magda? somethink is wrong

[@deanwilkinson9441]

This is a really big issue a lot of people probably spent a lot of money. I know I spent quite a bit and he just would not drop.

[@josselinchauvet8636]

moontoon need to delete the script summon.....

[@shirosai615]

Then every one would have everything a5 and after that what's the point? Maybe don't blow your load all at once and enjoy the random lego summons when you get shards. When people stop getting excited and/or pissed off for pulls, the game dies. Period.

[@iTz_T27]

The last 15× banners have not felt like 15x. I've been saying this for 2,3 weeks. Like they secretly lowered the rates to get you spend money. They Lyra banner had so many people pulling off banner heros or taking over 600 summons for Lyra. Said note: Your hair is cute like that btw

[@ToniTerrier]

Ikr! I don't think anyone in my guild got Lyra, but they got the choice hero, multiple times...

[@VikingsNeverDie]

Agreed. Did 400 summons, got three Legos and no Lyra or my choosen rate up hero.

[@merpaderp.___.4648]

Hmm its been the opposite. Ive done 1400 for vierna silas in the past and missed after 10 legos, 300 for arrogance lyra and hit both and an artemis. 600 for wukong and shamir zelus talula plus the guaranteed wukong come out... small sessions are definitely the way

[@SupaPoopaScoopa]

If you watch all the CC pulls for Wukong it's pretty evident Moontong messed up the rates. I put money on it, big time Reimburse comming.

[@SuziPlaysYT]

Fasti said rates were normal when I asked him for all the viewer pulls. Unfortunately, seems i just got very unlucky

[@jamesguillory5475]

I have never seen such insanely bad luck. You are right that does not seem logical.

[@rhaegysstarktargaryenlanni3659]

​@@SuziPlaysYT hes a lying ass and a slave of moonton, my entire guild pulled 2k+ summons, and most of us got just 1 dupe. Fck moonton

[@teoraymond1724]

Please feedback to dev so we can get justice

[@josselinchauvet8636]

@@teoraymond1724 they don't care of justice, for them it's normal.... script doesn't exist my ass

[@tonbo4887]

I'm still trying to get one dupe of him and seeing people fail to get him with five times the pulls I had saved is terrifying lol. How can you call this a rate up?

[@Jon2jammy]

They changed Lilli drop rate to 1.2x, so wukong running on 1.5x. It's official respect my authoritaz. 😢

[@herzchenbambi]

I feel so bad watching this because I know exactly what it feels like to keep missing the hero you want 😭 I'm so sorry Suzi, here's to hoping the game is saving your luck for Ingrid!

[@ClickyMcClickerson]

Wukong, Orim, Xaris x2, Kai, Calypso, Glacius, Anai, Edith. There's no way they actually activated the 15x for Wukong rates. So many people are reporting the same situation too. Even got 2 legos on the Aeris banner and they were Calypso and Zelus so idk if that 15x is on or if that was just bad luck. Honestly at this point idk if I wanna summon on the Ingrid banner in case they accidentally just removed her from the pool all together.

[@Tashunkawitco]

yes same for me and my friends 8 leggos 0 wukong. Rates were not turned on.

[@shirosai615]

​@@Tashunkawitco Do people not understand how % works?

[@Post-Trib]

200 guaranteed legend WuKong. I hit 200 every time

[@Pax_Mayn3]

I got him with a single pull, I only did 30 total I just started.

[@DenysPodunai]

I have been ranting about 15x being crap for the past two months. My last banner hero was Magmus on the Elowyn banner, and I have pulled at least 20-30 legos on 15x since then

[@raqciti430]

Firstly, that's AWFUL luck on your part. Im super sorry about that. Secondly, this puts rates into perspective and makes me appreciate just having a single copy of a lot of the units i own.

[@petecro4070]

The devs are money hungry fr. Suzi had 50k plus gems, 400 plus summons, all pretty much wasted. If this is the luck for the p2w, I can't even imagine the luck for f2p.

[@shirosai615]

The same as p2w, just with less shame afterwards.

[@danielegan1870]

The Crach got you too, huh? I pulled most of what I had for a dupe Sun Wukong as well, while pulling ancients. I pulled A1 Ferrsi for my pity swap, A3 Abomination, and a throw away Crach (I'm not awakening my Crach); meanwhile, 80 pulls on ancient and not 1 legol. I'm done pulling for today, maybe I will have better luck tomorrow with what little I saved and can scrape together by then.😮‍💨

[@ottokabai]

Thank you for your video, this is just insane. It gives me a great insight not to spend way too much for it. I have got Wukong 60 pulls before 200 Wukong's mercy.

[@JoshuaRWorkman]

I was prepared to go all-in, but he dropped in 110. And since then, I'm back up to 20 blue crystals and 3,400 gems.

[@renz546]

Finally your summons are looking like the rest of us xD sorry to see your summons went so bad! I really hope they increase the chances to like 25x soon. Since the 1yr anniversary, the banners havent been feeling like 15x at all. It could have been really bad luck on my account but after seeing this, it seems like the rates are bad bad.

[@junguh6197]

I saw Jake summoning and it was awful too on the Wukong side. I did 600 summons and I only got the one Wukong T_T

[@Thugzilla90]

So glad to see you without the eye patch, it's been a while since I've been involved with WOR. It's good to come back though. And it's good to see that you're recovering very well!

[@SuziPlaysYT]

Thank you! Yeah it's far from perfect but certainly improved. Long recovery has been rough

[@Thugzilla90]

@SuziPlaysYT I'm sorry that you couldn't get a dupe of the monkey, neither could I. Question: Is it worth to use 3 of my 7 legendary soulstones to get Wukong's A3?

[@iralawrence9311]

I had a back to back in this event with a eona to follow up as well. Now I'm wondering if anyone else did?

[@redbeard23gaming]

I count myself extremely lucky. I got 3 total copies (including the guaranteed copy) of him in 400ish summons, they all actually came within 70 summons plus a5 Anai in the same 70.

[@sneekyraid115]

I pulled 13 on elowyn not getting her a few months back, and 17 on arrogance not getting him back with last lust banner. My pendulum swung back and I pulled 3 praetus out of 100 ancients last banner and 3 wukong this go out of 400. I had enough stones to a5 praetus and wukong with reset book :) but yea 15x is either way off or luck city, no in between lately.

[@ProfoundSilence]

Unfortunately it didn't really go my way either with wukong. About 850 shards and just the one guaranteed wukong, but 7 other offbanner legendaries (2 of them new)

[@mbh7087]

Side note: I like your hair style today for the video!

[@SuziPlaysYT]

thank you! :)

[@jcor-laura5450]

They have added so many champions now that even with 15x you only have about 7% chance of getting specific champion. That's rough math just using total current champion count so it's on high side.

[@osamashams2551]

i swear they put him in the ultra rare legendary bucket , no way i also go 1200 summons with no copies 😏

[@razgrizz5996]

I did about 450 summons, got two sun wukong, xaris and Magda. So not bad. But yeah I wasn't chancing anymore on this banner, Wukong is good but watching this hurt my soul lol. I am going to go all in for the Ingrid banner though.

[@dumpsterplayer2700]

I think if its a single hero on the banner, the rate should be like 30%, not 18%, expected value is less than 1 in 5 summons which is crazy, is it even a banner at that point. Expected value is 1 WK every 650 summons. When you pull 3 Magda than the banner hero its crazy lol Just like when i pulled 2 setram in a row on the elowyn banner that didnt have setram, I swear some people have hidden rate ups

[@jasona2970]

Really need to adjust the rates to something akin to: 1 banner hero - 35% 2 banner heros - 50% (25 each) 3 banner heros - 60% (20% each) As is, banners feel like constant disappointments. There are so many champs now its hard to get what ya want. Contrast that to ancients that with a smaller pool, you are looking at 40-50% at the banner lord.

[@skybreaker7966]

I got 2 Elowyns, 2 Lyras and a Salazar out of 600 summons. Just wanted an A1 Wukong!

[@7duke77]

I screwed up my pity swap and pulled a Calypso from the Sun Wukong banner. Then after getting the guaranteed Sun Wukong, I did manage to pull another which is a first for me on an x15 banner.

[@shayneblue9872]

I did banner swith and got Kreia AGAIN, Now she is my most hated hero

[@duzzt100]

I got an early Wukong at 100 summons, then another after 300. Souled him to A5, making him my second A5. In between the 2 I got Laseer twice and an Aylin, both A1 now.

[@chenweiyun6010]

how i wish in the future moonton will create a banner every day for each each different fraction like for those miss out or nned anyone on that fraction they can summon on that banner instead of other summon pool

[@rodClark717]

I'm summoning Sunday, going for Ingrid first and then Wukong. Pity manipulation worked(?) for you but I'm just reseeding if necessary. I've less than 500, I'm not getting fancy lol.

[@glennhoremans5087]

I got pity swap Aeris, then guaranteed wukong A0. 20 summons later A1. Then did like 200 summons more but got A1 valkyra and a new zilitu so pretty good. 2 unpolished will bring him to a3

[@pandabytes4991]

and since Aeris is in the normal summoning pool, he is pulled out of your nascent pool.

[@TheLollercaster]

I'm glad I watched your video, no more spending from me lol

[@pandabytes4991]

I was going to stop after 170 summons to do my pitty swap, but I hit a legendary at 140 or 150... I was too frustrated to remember since I wanted to pull legendary on the Aeris banner.

[@Post-Trib]

Gwendolyn is still a good lego. I got the guaranteed WuKong at 200 and Lyra on other banner. Not too bad

[@bradsmith2937]

This banner was a complete boondoggle, and your experience totally validates Fasti's video where he talked about the mathematical unlikelihood of pulling copies if you aren't a Kraken or Whale, who has thousands of summonings saved up. It's total bullshit and so many people are going to spend months of saved resources to get nothing. I got A3 Artemis at pity and my guaranteed copy of Wukong on my 200th. I took a shot at one more leggo and got A2 Cerberus on my next pity and stopped with over 20,000 diamonds left, because you know that it would be just like Moonton to have a totally banger banner next weekend after so many people exhausted their resources in order to compel them to spend more money. In other news, I pulled Divines, since I was in pity, hoping for A3 Setram, but got Aeris, so that was cool, I guess. Now, on to Ingrid/Ardea...

[@shirosai615]

Don't save 'em. Enjoy the game so those rando lego pulls are still fun. a5 hex plus another that I just vendor'd - all from random summons off banner. Never understood the fun in grinding for basically a guarantee - it's the randomness that makes it special - otherwise you're just buying the character instead of pulling it and you're no better than a whale.

[@bradsmith2937]

@shirosai615 I did say "f**k it" and wound up doing two more pities and got A1 Calypso, ugh..., and A1 Constance. At least getting an awakening for Constance salvaged something out of this shitty banner luck. The banner for next weekend is crap, so I may unload the rest, hoping to get an impossible shot at a copy, one last time.

[@Macleseth]

My first 10 pull I hit Boreas (new), and my 6th 10 pull I hit double Wukong! I thought it was going to be raining monkeys. I did about another 800 since then with 0 Wukong lol.

[@dacery]

I got Constance on the way to Sun Wukong pity swap gave me an A1 Brok, then all in for Sun got him A1 (back to back then put stones in to make him A3) plus A3 Hex, A1 Elowyn, Boreas, Kria and Regulas - had about 300 summons and 27k diamonds + sell rares and pull again have no idea my total summons - worth it though

[@amtrak7394]

I pulled on both banners intending to do a pity swap. Hit Sun Wukong after 80 pulls. Hit Aeris 50 pulls later. Pulled to a 3rd Legendary for the heck of it and wound up with an A2 Valkyra. Overall I’m happy and I’ll be even happier if I pull Ingrid tomorrow.

[@RyanL-cl8yi]

1500 summons 13 Legos 1 wukong. Absolutely bull shit

[@shirosai615]

Shit, 80 summons 1 wukong. They should just let you literally buy him with the amount of entitled people in the comments, might shut 'em up. :P

[@zackstohler7022]

I somehow pulled my 3rd Wukong on 200. I used everything on his banner. Them used 2 SS, so he's A4 right now. Hoping we get SS for NYE. He'll be A5 soon!!!!

[@mikehernandez5900]

Sorry about your Wukong pulls. Otherwise gratz on the rates and some of the champs. I just pulled 200. Got a late Legendary (A1 Artemis) just as I hit soft pity, and then Wukong. I've been pulling some solid champs past few weeks though, so I'm satisfied if not happy so far.

[@jefflamping3453]

In 600+summons I got 2x Sun Wukong, 2xArtemis, 1 Silas (A4), 1 Trusk and 1 Xena. Not too bad.

[@onigiri9964]

Everyones odds are different i guess...I had about 200 summons and got 3 wukong and a nocturne and kria so im pretty happy about it;) looking forward to ancient banner in 15 minutes with my 21 summons;)

[@knightsedge7379]

I pulled 6 leggos on the banner and only one wu Kong. I did get Constance though. Great video anyway.

[@DieHard0]

If you did reset Silas, you would have the stone for A1 Sun Wukong at least, unless you already have the extra stones.

[@SuziPlaysYT]

I have 1 for sun wukong. Not resetting for only 1. Hopefully will get more

[@deanwilkinson9441]

It definitely felt manipulated. I got one copy out of 6 legendaries. Not quite as bad as yours suzi. I would have liked to have at least got 1 awakening . 😢 3 Magdas must be like getting hit by a comet.🧐

[@AeacosGaming]

I pulled and wanted to try and do the banner swap. I got Wu in 60 pulls... so couldn't and stopped there. Sorry about the luck but thank you for the content we are greatful!

[@ToniTerrier]

I went for the pity shuffle, sadly I got a random Kria at 170... so couldn't do the banner swap. Still happy for the Wukong though :)

[@sagi5826]

oh wow that was rough.. my pulls were a1 toro > wukong (guaranteed) > wukong > wukong > new hex only now I see how it could turn much worse happy xmas anyway :)

[@SuziPlaysYT]

Damn congrats!

[@semrahpalamah]

Nice one....I just hope I did the same but Im so excited the day Wukong arrived I pulled for him...I got 2 Wukong with rares & diamonds combined (500+).😊

[@davidduane3182]

X15 event no way, I call shenanigans!

[@Tashunkawitco]

My experience on this banner. Not sure how many pulls. but nearly 400 summon stones and 26k red crystals. 1 guaranteed wukong and 8 random mostly crap legendaries and a hex. Same for my friends. Not a single Wukong beside guaranteed. They did not even bother to turn on the 15x this time. Not gonna spend a single coin in this game anymore

[@Pax_Mayn3]

I got him with a single pull, did 30ish total. Got both banner heroes.

[@palebizkit1267]

It seems that 30x is super necessary now that the pool is saturated. 😢

[@Pax_Mayn3]

I got him and tulala after 30 pulls I just started, but now I found out about the apology compensation and I feel like quitting now. I haven't even got one legendary stone yet and people got 10 and all the other stuff to? Wtf.

[@devantemcnac6316]

The problekm is as they add more heroes, 15x isn't as impactful because the percentage chance is just lower. It needs to be set to a flat 50% chance I think instead of being a chance increase.

[@VikingsNeverDie]

They should learn from King Arthur, yet sadly it seems it's going the RAID's way.

[@Youstillcracked]

King Arthur barely has heoes at the moment will be same when that expands, All these games are the same ​@@VikingsNeverDie

[@pandabytes4991]

@@VikingsNeverDie If they are going to go in the direction of RAID, then they need to do that escalating chance increase... would give whales more incentive to pull.

[@morgans.8686]

190 summon for me as a new player. But I got Wukong even if no dupe. But I'm quite lucky I got Arrogance, Salazar, Crach, Orim and Torodor. 6 legendary in just 190 summon, it's better than what i hoped for(even if a dupe of wukong would have been nice)

[@Prospector-WoR]

Lol.. Yeah the music thing.. It depends on what's playing. WoR will use music that isn't there own creation. So YT flags it :P The christmas music on the main screen is a big example.. Bring a Torch or whatever it's called is a Copyrighted Xmas song from I think France? Like..Just use Jingle bells :P lol

[@BaronDestro]

Definitely 5x and not 15x .... Time for team fasti to investigate ...rate up is a myth ..most of the CC pulls i have seen are bad, its totally against odds imo....sorry you didnt even get a second copy 😢

[@SuziPlaysYT]

I already sent a message to our contact about the concerns for this.

[@muztahidhassan7165]

My very first 10 summons on sun wukong banner Laseer + wukong. 2 legos. 😁

[@kelgutierrez9490]

I got him on my 4th pull 🙈🤷🏻‍♂️ got lucky on that one for sure, cause i can not afford to get copies of him for awakenings 😅😂

[@wingspeare3444]

I tried to pity manipulate and got my first leggo a little early around 160 and it was sun wukong :( so no free leggo then I went all in and at around 150 after i sold and used everything I had I pulled another leggo.... sun wukong so I lost a free legend but got an a1 wukong in a little over 300 simmons, not ideal but I am happy 😊

[@kevinbryie7267]

I know i kept pulling myself cause i saved up all i had to try and get sun wu kong but i was very much let down because at the 200 mark when it says you would get him, well i didn't. I got that setram golem looking thing character and it left me scratching my head thinking was i just robbed or something and if so, wtf! Lol it really was leaving me so confused as to what happened when i was supposedly supposed to pull him at the 200 count. I feel i most definitely got robbed and that i probably wont be spending money on this game do to the inconsistency and things with the game

[@SuziPlaysYT]

you 100% get him on the 200 count unless you were on the wrong banner; if it said 190/200 then you did 1 more 10 pull, there is no NOT getting SWK unless you had a bug which you need to report.

[@dutchbozo]

This banner did not feel like a rate up banner, I saved up for months and got only the guaranteed wukong + 5 other off banner heroes. I wish they'd just make these kind of banners a 50/50 or atleast 33% maybe

[@Maximusroxy]

Pulled just over 700, got zilitue, orim, and wukong x2.

[@Centauer24]

Got my first Magda on my way to 200 for Wukong and was able to go up to 199. swapped to the other banner and got Setram A1 after another 50 pulls. 15x works but it was the wrong of the two^^ okay Setram A1 is not bad at all. tried to get A1 for Wukong but it was my first Alaura. at least she is new in my pokedex. lets see what happens tomorrow for Ingrid. i have Ardea and got Praetus two weeks ago so my pity is nothing. but i have so much luck that 82 ancients could be enough

[@HR-eo3bf]

Your not alone i had bad luck as well

[@boredom2go]

Moonton recently had to change their summoning rate code. Now they've botched the banner rates. Thanks Fastidious. :-P

[@gaizka7]

Holly Molly, i guesed this is magda 1x banner, i feel you ivy

[@bfm6335]

Rates were amazing for me... I had 30k gems got 2 copies of Wukong and had 3 soulstone to A5 him. Plus a bunch of dupes along the way...

[@Pax_Mayn3]

I got him with only 1700 gems.

[@truthseeker2954]

Imagine this total waste if wukong were not 200 summons guaranteed and u dont get him..

[@shayneblue9872]

I must be extremely lucky to get three copies of him(Include the guaranteed one) out of three legendaries. But watching your video makes me afraid of keep puling

[@kelgutierrez9490]

Dev's has smart marketing strats on that banner 😢 rip diamonds

[@ButterIsGaming]

Your rates were pretty decent, but the 15x was definitely on for Magda for you for some reason.

[@anandrai784]

Yes..I did get 2 copy of sunwukung in 400 pull. Plus the guaranteed total 3. I guess I was lucky

[@mark_gn]

Suzi I have watched the whole video and Almost streamed when I saw crach 😢. I am sure Wukong has lord rates😂

[@Henry-zg1yv]

what are the chances pulling Magda 3 times, mathematically very very small. I dont trust moonton

[@Boogiewoogie086]

went all in as well with 27k diamonds and 360 summoning crystals and only pulled one Sun wukong on the very first 10 pull and the rest were legendaries I didnt want and 15x sun wukong is a lie

[@Soashds1]

I pulled Orim and Magda too, something not right

[@JLConawayII]

Aw man I just started this game. Guess I missed getting this guy.

[@SuziPlaysYT]

yeah :( I have this weird feeling/hope that for chinese new year they'd run a weird way to get him again somehow - maybe not, maybe too soon, but possible!

[@phialee4108]

I feel you me too lol

[@4640280]

I would've done the manipulation but got him on first 1 pull lol

[@laylowmanplays]

Feel bad for you. I did 500 summons on banner and got mine to A2. Looks like I took all the luck.

[@Lady.Kaylow]

Kigiri banner was the same i did 1600 summon and got kigiri a1 thats when i become f2p

[@ganjeno]

I did about 300 blue shard and 31k diamonds on wukong banner and get 2 wukong.

[@jayflickner7534]

Imagine How us f2p players feel. Doesn't make us want to keep playing.

[@Gregdrouillard]

it's the music that gave you bad luck hehe

[@timtoney9646]

Watching a Silas get sold breaks my soul.

[@SuziPlaysYT]

It hurt! Definitely felt bad ha

[@tansinsami6253]

I always pulled the rate up ....got wu kong on my 120 pulls ... didn't have 200

[@Mr.Cevapcici]

i'm afraid to say it but i pulled 3 copies of him. seems the cc luck went straight to the normal players.

[@Omit3]

I got two legendaries from Wukong banner but not Wukong.

[@Nick81Breton]

I pulled even Morrigan on this banner, but not Wukong

[@MrTriptych]

Double ouch!

[@beardedbeast6956]

Most on forrunner pulled a5 maybe 6 people

[@MorsDraco]

well in 800 pulls i only got legos at pity but atleast i got 3 copys of the monkey and one calypso

[@diogocarvalho5488]

Thats rough.... 15x events dont seem to be rating... went all out for Hex on his banner (+Lyra) pulled like 3 legos and didnt get him... kind of sad really... on twilla same thing, got her on hex (+lyra) banner, one on this banner and 1 on divines.... did actually get good rates on this one, on my 200 guaranteed pulls, got a laya (new), a twilla (a2) and an edith (new) before i got wukong, didnt even had the chance to manipulate pity....