American Reacts to European Buses VS American Buses

[@kristiangoransson6104]

The buses built in the US looks like the first oldest models I drove as a bus driver in Sweden back in 2000. Anything built after 2000 are space ships compared to the US ones.

[@scottysmith9687]

Actually the most of the city buses we get come from Canada what are we getting in the United States

[@very_nice_gaming]

@@scottysmith9687 depends on the city different cities has different needs and requirements

[@mrbeanmrbean9047]

2000 try the 90's😂😂😂

[@michalandrejmolnar3715]

Probably the good things are due to social democracy

[@kristiangoransson6104]

@@michalandrejmolnar3715 the buses that run city and regional services in Sweden are done by private companies. In the region I live in they often get a 8 year contract and the biggest reason for them getting the contract is low prices and good service. The buses are interestingly getting nicer and nicer even though they should have gotten more basic to save money for those companies. The low floor buses were introduced in my town when I was 15 and they looked more modern than what i see IS buses look like today and I’m 47 years old. It was a weird feeling getting a job as a bus driver at 23 years old and getting to drive the buses that I used to ride to school.

[@Xanthopteryx]

So funny that you say they look futuristic. Me as a Swede are like: "They look like normal buses?" =)

[@Tguson]

The first interior shot shown looked just like I remember our local city buses in Uppsala, Sweden. Admittedly I only ride the bus a few times a year but they do rattle and shake, partly due to endless amounts of speed bumps.

[@Tguson]

@@Xanthopteryx This is from an Uppsala buss and it looks similar to your example. I note that from the high line number it's a regional bus, not local (city) so it may be slightly different from the city buses. kzbin.info/www/bejne/n3u1e4Fvnc98q5o

[@Xanthopteryx]

@@Tguson I think most areas are pretty similar. Only in Stockholm alone there are several different types. This is what were there in end of 2022: • Ledbussar (articulated): 1 060, varav (of which): -Röda ledbussar (red articulated): 760 -Blå stombussar (blue rapid transit): 279 -Blå ledbussar, eldrivna (blue articulated electric): 21 • Övriga bussar (other): 1 336, varav (of which): - ”Vanliga” röda bussar (regular red): 503 -Eldrivna röda bussar (electric red): 10 -Boggiebussar (bogie): 770 -Dubbeldäckare (double decker): 39 -Midibussar (midi size): 9 -Minibussar (mini size): 5 There have also been one or two autonomous buses in regular traffic (tests) since 2018 but that ended autumn last year. This was to gather data and now they can start launching other non testing lines.

[@MrShadow1617]

@@Tguson That shot looked like one of the earlier MB Citaro buses, as those already had the small, somewhat raised seat right by the first door on the left of the shot. Basically took those since elementary school in my city.

[@nuno.picado]

As a Portuguese, same. They're just buses.

[@101steel4]

Growing up in London, buses were just a part of normal everyday life. Same with the tube and trains. And later trams. I never owned a car in the 40 years I lived there.

[@9.5.9.5]

sounds miserable

[@reinhard8053]

@@9.5.9.5 Sounds very lucky getting along without a car.

[@ChristiaanHW]

nice, not being forced to have and operate a car, saves you so much money. hopefully in the next few years London (and the rest of the UK) are able to expand their (safe and modern) cycle infrastructure. the more options we have to get around the better. more choice = more freedom

[@dkinclonberne]

​@@9.5.9.5 typical American 🤡🤡🤡

[@ashscott6068]

@@9.5.9.5 What do you want a car for in London? You can walk across the entire city at its widest point, in a few hours.

[@AHVENAN]

That bus that you said looked like the typical US city bus, that looked like what our busses looked like back in the 80's early 90s at best! 😅

[@IWrocker]

Haha I figured 😂😂 that’s about right.. America just doing its own thing over here… decades behind 😅

[@dougbrowning82]

@@IWrockerWhen GM discontinued the fishbowl New Look buses in the 1970s many operators hated the new RTS buses that replaced them, to the point that they introduced the Classic bus in 1983. Again, in 1999, New Flyer introduced the futuristically styled Invero, which was also hated by operators.

[@qjtvaddict]

USA is a 3rd world country in denial

[@Fonetiker]

@@dougbrowning82What was the real reason for this backlash? What exactly didnt they like?

[@dougbrowning82]

@@FonetikerFrom what I gather, the styling didn't sit well with them.

[@markalexander71332]

No it is M.A.N. you're saying it right.

[@normanguttel1080]

Correct it is : M.. A.. N.. . 😉 greetings from germany ✌️

[@flashback0994]

Yes just ask an german the guy from the video he is watching is not german so.

[@karinwenzel6361]

​@@normanguttel1080The "a" pronounced as a long AAA Sound, like in hEArt.

[@mariskormis3972]

orginal company name is "Maschinenfabrik Augsburg-Nürnberg AG"

[@arturobianco848]

Yes unless you're outside of Germany i don't know anybody (except germans and not even all of them) who calls it M.A.N. the rest of the world just pronounces it as man.

[@mrgonk871]

When I went to New York on holiday in 1996, we caught a double decker bus from midtown to the World Trade Center. Whilst on the bus I was reading the old signage inside and realised it was a bus from Sheffield, England where I live. I’d probably already been on that bus years before it ever got to America.

[@grewdpastor]

I had a similar experience years ago in Glasgow (UK) with a river ferry. To my utter surprise, I saw signs with instructions in Dutch from the GVB (GemeenteVervoerBedrijf = gemeentevervoer bedrijf) Amsterdam. The old ferry for transport across the IJ had apparently been sold to the Scots.🙂🙃

[@RobBemelmans]

I'm a busdriver in Ireland. I can make a video of the interior and exterior for you if you want to learn more.

[@PropperNaughtyGeezer]

Hard job. Poorly paid, irregular and split working hours, the toughest health test and annoying passengers. I have respect for that. Not everyone can handle nerves for long.

[@IWrocker]

That would be cool! Comment here if you do and send it on my instagram or discord. Or my email on my “about” page 🎉

[@seanmanning188]

@@PropperNaughtyGeezer calm down mate

[@michalandrejmolnar3715]

The socialist movements as far away in the past as 1870s had big influence on politics in which industrialization was big, even Bismarck reacted with concessions like government healthcare with which they wanted to take wind from their sails. After 1917 fascism was created to defeat the Soviet Union, then during and after WW2 had to make international concessions to the European socialist movements (Germany, UK, Austria, France, almost Italy, Nordic countries) and in comparison to the communist countries which legalized abortion, parental leave and guaranteed healthcare by 1918-1922

[@michalandrejmolnar3715]

The socialist movements as far away in the past as 1870s had big influence on politics in which industrialization was big, even Bismarck reacted with concessions like government healthcare with which they wanted to take wind from their sails. After 1917 fascism was created to defeat the Soviet Union, then during and after WW2 had to make international concessions to the European socialist movements (Germany, UK, Austria, France, almost Italy, Nordic countries) and in comparison to the communist countries which legalized abortion, parental leave and guaranteed healthcare by 1918-1922

[@vikinnorway6725]

Biggest problem with usa policys and regulation, is that usa does not seem to see what other countries do better and implement it. They just want to do their own thing😂 other countries understand that other countries might do stuff better and learn from eachother. Usa is in a bouble and don’t want to learn from oher countries. We in Norway take ideas from countries around the world. Even "bad"countries do some stuff better than other. We can all learn from eachother

[@zfranke3dome]

we have corrupt people in gov.

[@elmurcis1]

Riga (Latvia) is far from perfect example (well, everybody knew that any big project would include some secret payments) but public transportation for me always felt "good stuff" here. Busses, troleys or trams (latest re-placement since need to rebuild old rails) all are comfy and even people who drives cars daily will often take them.

[@vikinnorway6725]

@@elmurcis1europe has been building public transport for decades. Usa has allways buildt for cars.. hard to change that now.

[@arturobianco848]

Yup i'm dutch and we have pretty much the best roads in the world (from my own experience) and its because we steel every good idee we see in any other country. You might have better ones in Norway but i only did around 200 miles there so i can't make a real assesment.

[@vikinnorway6725]

@@arturobianco848 roads in Norway are pretty safe but most roads are slow 70kmt or 80kmt is the most normal. I think many countries has better roads then Norway but we have hard terrain to build in. Montains and fjords everywhere. Ferrys etc. but yes very few people die in traffic accidents, even tho its ice roads. In 2021 86 people died in traffic accidents. But they are working to get it down to 0.- probably not possible but thats their goal and they are working on it all the time. Vison Zero In 2002, the Storting adopted Vison Zero. This is a vision of no one killed or seriously injured in road traffic. Ever since 1970, long-term and targeted traffic safety work has been conducted in Norway, and this has yielded results. The number of deaths per year has decreased from 560 in 1970 to about 100 in recent years. Don’t think its like that in the states.

[@erwin6395]

It is M.A.N. It's an accronym for Maschinenfabrik Augsburg-Nürnberg AG

[@Bioshyn]

and sounds like Emma N

[@altblechasyl_cs2093]

Not acronym, a abbreviation... 😉

[@avigdonable]

Like in G.A.Y.

[@veryincognito6776]

It's also called U.S.A. and not "Yousa"

[@arnomrnym6329]

@@altblechasyl_cs2093 It`s an acronym!

[@stormbridge]

"You're either living in the future or we are living in the past." You're definitly living in the past. For us, these busses are totaly normal.

[@JoshSweetvale]

Our buses are newish. America's buses are 30 years old. Do the math.

[@Keksemann666]

​@@JoshSweetvalepeople in usa usually do meth instead of math.

[@KenanTurkiye]

I love them and I have a folder about them come take a ride! (at folder 2) :)) 🚅🚈🚞🚝🚂🚃🚄 trains, trams, aren't they all beautifull

[@justme8841]

​@@Keksemann666😂😂😂

[@tonycasey3183]

I live in the UK. Not a major city, just a small town. I travel everywhere, every day by bus. To and rom work, between work sites when I have to work at more than one location, I go by bus for shopping and leisure trips an, if I need a care, I hire one - maybe two or three times a year. I didn't believe it for the longest time (I used to be a real petrol-legs) but it is surprisingly easy and convenient to use public transport as your main mode of travel. Fun fact. about ten years ago I went to visit some people at an event in Arse-End-Of-Nowhere, Indiana. I found a bus that would take me most of the way and a second local bus that would take me to the nearest town to the event. Then I got a cab to the actual event. When I turned up and told the folks how I got there, they couldn't have been more surprised if I told them I had teleported or dug a tunnel the whole distance. One local man told me that there weren't any bus services in the area and he found it incomprehensible that there were buses. Going home, he gave me a lift in his truck to the bus stop (three or four miles from his house) just so he could see me get on the bus he never knew existed. FYI, the local bus was a small minibus that doubled as a school bus at those specific times of day and was very comfortable. The Indianapolis bus was like a brick on wheels with what appeared to be NO suspension and zero seat padding. It was barely one step up from being transported as freight - the single worst bus I have ever travelled on and I have been on 100 year old, historic buses in a transport museum!

[@IWrocker]

This is epic haha thanks for sharing. Seems accurate at how everyone was mind blown that you were able to take buses the whole way 😂🎉

[@stevekenilworth]

i live 12 miles from was 2nd largest city Birmingham. i was shocked i could not get in to Coventry before 8am and in wales 12 miles trip i could be in Wrexham before 8am. so i got job in Cov and i had to quite that job as you expect 8am in to city should be no issue. and from my home Kenilworth to hospital that can take hour but ten min drive, or hospital in the city it multi buses and over hour for 20 min drive max and it costs 2x times plus what it cost me in car inc parking charge. id never use a bus again, unless you want to be miles from were you want to be or spend a hell of a lot longer getting to places

[@erwin6395]

FYI, I only got my driver's license at age 39, because before that I could just walk or take public transport everywhere. It was only when I moved to the countryside that I needed a car. At 37 I got my motorbike license, but only because I wanted a motorbike.

[@jur4x]

I got my license at 26, after I lived in UK for few years. Could get away without driving for another few years, but good that I had my license by the time I started commuting for 30+miles, so that insurance was cheap. Also, I built some experience by then

[@jantimmerby]

I was also 39 when I got my driver's license. 2 years later I got a bus driving licence. Now I drive 18 meter articulated buses as a city bus.

[@MadSwede87]

I was around 30 when I took my I still don't own a car

[@noodleppoodle]

I'm 40 and still don't have a license

[@tinasjostrand2677]

Swede here, I'm 57 and never had a drivers license. I do use trains, buses, my bike and my feet 😊

[@malkontentniepoprawny6885]

In Poland we have trolleybuses, electric buses, CNG buses with engines from Cummins company- in Krakow they recently opened an engine factory, and traditional diesel buses.

[@Skvalpenotta]

Whenever I take a bus in the US, coming from Europe, I always feel like I'm stepping into a time capsule

[@DanielMusicFeed]

I was living in The Netherlands for 5 years and working at Schiphol (Amsterdam) airport. There are I believe 12 routes connecting the airport with all adjacent areas by electric buses. Also, the regular buses with combustion engine are connecting the airport with most of the larger cities in 20km radius. And if there's no bus for you to go where you need to, you can simply hop on a train right underneath the airport itself and will take you almost everywhere. Netherlands has an amazing public transport infrastructure indeed.

[@Daniel-qz8bp]

Big city's yes, villages no. I have a friend in a village where bus drives till 5 once a hour, and in the weekend not at all, in the weekend he has to bike 1.5 hour to the nearest city, also everything closed on sunday😂

[@TheMrVengeance]

@@Daniel-qz8bp How often do busses go from remote rural villages in the US? .. Oh, never? I'll take the 'once an hour til 5' over 'never'. And shops are only closed on sundays in the very religious areas. In many towns, even smaller ones, shops are opened on sunday.

[@stanislavbandur7355]

@@TheMrVengeance we were crossing borders for Sunday shopping when I was in Germany (Gronau)

[@SjaakLulMaarRaak]

It is indeed M.A.N which is an abbreviation for Maschinenfabrik Augsburg Nürnberg. (Machine factory Augsburg Nuremberg). Augsburg and Nuremberg are two cities in the German state of Bavaria. The company is a conglomerate that builds busses, trucks and diesel engines. It's part of Traton which is in its turn part of Volkswagen. Other parts of Traton are Scania and Navistar.

[@hartmutwrith3134]

MAN is successfull in space industry as well.

[@tupolewposting2733]

@@hartmutwrith3134 And used to be a very popular manufacturer of trams

[@daveofyorkshire301]

There is a difference between a bus and a coach. Functionally buses are multi stop and coaches are point-to-point. But structurally a coach is designed to be more comfortable for long haul rides and may even have a toilet onboard.

[@arturobianco848]

Thats just an english distinction, in my country its called a Bus for both of them (well technicly we do have the same sort of distinctions but nobody really usses it).

[@daveofyorkshire301]

@@arturobianco848 That raises a question I never considered, is it just an English distinction?

[@j3mixa]

@@daveofyorkshire301 In my language, Finnish, we do distinct those bus types but we don't have a single word for each of them. We just call them longhaul buses or local/city buses and from that you know which type we are talking about.

[@aphextwin5712]

In German we just use a compound word, ‘Reisebus’ (literally: travel bus), for coaches. One definition is that don’t have any spaces designed for people to stand, something that city busses generally have.

[@daveofyorkshire301]

@@j3mixa I think another distinction is you legally can't stand (I mean not have a seat) on a coach ride, but you can on a multi stop bus.

[@101steel4]

When I was a kid, busses were freedom for us. Used to go all over London on busses and the tube, during the school holidays. I'd imagine American kids are very reliant on family/friends for lifts everywhere?

[@IWrocker]

Yea American kids usually walk/ride bicycles in their neighborhood but if they wanna go somewhere (to the mall, restaurants, school, etc.) they have to have their parents drive them or carpool with someone else

[@TregMediaHD]

I had many an interesting ride through Peckham Brixton Camberwell and New cross that give extra validation to your childhood Bus travels ❤

[@TregMediaHD]

The tube was also another experience 😮 in itself 😊 at that age

[@MartinSGill]

In many European countries kids of school/university age get discounts and or free travel on public transport, even trains, it not only promotes freedom of movement and independence for kids, but also greatly reduces/removes the need for parents to take kids to and from school, and reduces the number of cars near schools.

[@101steel4]

@@TregMediaHD I remember them being free on Sundays iirc. We'd go all over. Happy memories.

[@geofrancis2001]

our buses have USB ports and wifi here on the west coast of scotland. a lot of them are electric.

[@ktadesse]

They got nice drivers, too! :-)

[@plini-xi3ux]

Same here in Sweden, usb & wifi makes the ride fly by. And electric busses are so much quieter than the old diesel ones.

[@svenskenh644]

You sound like Kamila Harris 😅

[@geofrancis2001]

@@svenskenh644 I have no idea who that is. Vice president? I'm confused.

[@svenskenh644]

@@geofrancis2001 google Kamila Harris + electric busses + usb chargers and you will get a laugh

[@qualitytraders5333]

Here in Mexico City buses have their own exclusive lanes, often driving in the opposite direction of the car traffic and travel time is less than half the travel time. Also public transportation uses contactless payment e.g. with your phone.

[@mariacurtis9247]

Uk here we can do contactless payments on buses and have bus lanes

[@GuyWets-zy5yt]

Cool, same in Belgium

[@jenniferharrison8915]

It's the same in Sydney, bus express lanes! Tap on Tap off, easy transfer to another bus, train or ferry or tram with the same card or phone - not sure about the rest of Australia! 👍

[@sebastiancastelliano1692]

I'm a french bus driver and i can add that more people use the busses in europe because more and more cities taxes the park drive in town insanely, autorities want you to park your car outside the cities and take the busses. Another add is that if the busses become better for the passenger that's not the case for the driver, please constructors just put the doors buttons on the steering wheel we push it more than a hundred time a day and can't to it in a straight position in many busses.

[@jenniferharrison8915]

Yes, Sydney is like that they definitely prefer people to use public transport and made it possible to catch a bus, tram, train or ferry approx every five minutes anywhere around the city and inner suburbs! Leave your car for the weekends, or just drive through!

[@chrissampson6861]

I'm from the UK and it's not a matter of having a car or taking a bus, it's about having the option to choose. I have a car and most of the time it sits outside my house. I live on the edge of a small city so if I want to go into town I get the bus - it stops 3 minutes walk from my house, runs every 15 minutes all day, I don't have to find or pay for parking, or bother driving if I want to go to the next city I'll get buses and trains, if I want to stay longer or have a drink etc I can. If I'm going somewhere without convenient buses, late at night, or if I've got a load of stuff I'll take the car.

[@weerwolfproductions]

In The Netherlands busses have a circulation plan to help board / exit passengers as quickly as possible: you can only get in at the front door and only exit at all the other doors. So people entering and exiting the bus will not have to struggle past each other. All my local busses are fully electric, which i like a lot as there's 4 per hour coming through the narrow street where I live. When the train is out it gets replaced by old fashioned diesel busses and it's then that i notice how loud conventional busses are.

[@TheMrVengeance]

"You can only get in at the front door" ... Yyyeah, try saying that at like ANY bus stop in the morning on a route to a college/university. Good luck. 😂😂

[@weerwolfproductions]

@@TheMrVengeance there's only one bus line that has an exception in the city where i work, and it only has 1 stop which is the end destination. That bus is a direct line to the university complex from the bus station and it is indeed enter at all doors. They even got footsteps painted on the platform to show where the doors will be when the bus stops at the platform so everyone can queue up. But if there were more stops on the way, those would go by loading in the front / exiting through the other doors.

[@stuborn-complaining-german]

Best M.A.N. slogan they ever had was "MAN kann!" / "MAN can!" where they actually said MAN like "man".

[@matt47110815]

General Murican attitude: Buses are for poor people. Yet, you see rust bucket cars on the streets,held together with duct tape.

[@PROVOCATEURSK]

Capitalist braiwashing propaganda of antisemite Ford works to this day.

[@stink1701]

And the new trend is for even those to have illegal "temporary" registration plates, no insurance, no inspection. and there is basically zero enforcement on this because the authorities know that driving is typically necessary even for the poor so they don't bother anyone unless they break other traffic laws. Cars get rolled over and have no functioning lights and still drive around. It is madness here.

[@slof69]

where I live in the UK the buses have free WiFi and phone chargers and a single ticket for any distance costs the same as a bottle of coke

[@peterosy]

For short-ish metro city trips, durable seats and cushioning are usually comfy enough. Though my real gripe these days, is the seats on a bus going to the airport are MORE comfy than the economy seats on the plane!

[@PropperNaughtyGeezer]

I once worked at MAN Plant, Salzgitter. The TGX and partly also a bus were built on the line. The bus only consisted of a roadworthy, shortened chassis. Dashboard, steering wheel, engine, wheels... everything on it. The seat was a makeshift folding chair, the kind you would use for barbecuing or camping, and was only used to maneuver the vehicle for transport. It was ready to drive in priciple, just without any bodywork and only one garden chair as a driver's seat. Such a chassis can be seen in the film "The Mexican" with Bred Pitt in the scene at the intersection in the desert where he drives through the intersection on a red light and was almost rammed by such a chassis that was driving through the desert at 90 kmh. As I said, without windshields, without roof, without anything, on a folding chair. It was delivered all over the world, where local companies extended the frame accordingly and put a body on the chassis and you had a bus. Today they pack it in individual parts into transport crates and ship them that way. Jokingly called “bus in the box” at the MAN factory.

[@papalaz4444244]

PropperNaughtyGeezer sure

[@christianx8494]

It is funny to see those „skeletons“ being delivered under its own power: The driver wears motorcycle gear complete with a crash helmet. The same thing is true with light lorries/vans like the Mercedes-Benz three tonners that become campmobiles/RVs or other custom made vehicles.

[@conallmclaughlin4545]

5:31 this futuristic bus has been in use in Belfast, Ireland from 2018😂 Up north in Derry all our buses are 100% electric, we also have a ton of double deck buses, and they are as fun as you are imagine 😂

[@s7umpf]

Me and my family took the bus to Pittsburgh City-Center a few times while staying in a hotel about 10miles north. I found it hilarious to read the adds in there for cheap stuff or addiction help programs. The ride was a bit slow but quite affordable. I mean we figured out quickly that we weren‘t the usual customers, but it didn‘t stop us from riding it again.

[@Tom-Lahaye]

Many busses in the US look like they were made in the 1980s, school busses do even resemble something from the 1950s. The harsh ride may be due to the use of normal truck chassis? It was like that in Europe in the past, but modern busses are designed from the ground up and do not share parts with trucks other than engines, the large manufacturers like Volvo, Scania, Mercedes and DAF design everything else especially for the use in busses, the bodies are mostly built by independent companies like Van Hool, VDL, Setra, Dennis and Neoplan to name a few, although the truck companies have also ready to use bus models of their own. Electric busses are becoming the normal here in the Netherlands, in order to keep the streets clear of overhead wires these are battery electric and are charged via a pick up on the roof which can be lifted against a live rail at the bus station where the service starts/ends.

[@padmeamidala4883]

Really, you could show some cool features in European busses, like the stop buttons for strollers and baby carriages and the bus (the running board) going down electrically to the level of the sidewalk, not only for them but also for old and disabled people.

[@Macvombat]

"Having your own car has some benefits as well [...]" It's important to remember that it's not either, or. I ride the bus, mostly in connection with train commutes. I use my bicycle when it's within my city. I also own a car, mostly used for longer trips or if I need to haul something/someone. I think it's often outlined as if you can only ever use one mode of transport. I cycle to work on most days but if the weather is sh** I'll take the car for those 4km. Personal transportation can easily be a mix of different traffic modes. Granted, they have to be available and viable...

[@SummitCoyote]

but here is a question that I think most people would ask themselves...if I am already paying 30-40 grand for a car...why am I only using it for some trips...why cycle in hot or cold or rain when I can just take the air conditioned box with my music and navigation...where I have the freedom to just go wherever I want after work instead of just going home? I am paying for the car anyway, regardless of how much I use it, so why not get my money's worth out of it?

[@Macvombat]

@@SummitCoyote The "mostly" in my comment is doing a lot of work here. If the weather is.. questionable, there is a high likelihood that I will take the car. It is cheaper to leave your car in the driveway if you don't have to use it. Driving your car costs money. More miles on the odometer will lower the value of the car. Every mile driven uses gas. In Denmark where I live, cost of insurance goes up with more miles driven per year. There are caveats, of course, but my point was only that transportation doesn't need to be an either/or. Just because you own a bicycle, it doesn't mean that you have to ride it for every trip. Just because you live close by a train station, it doesn't mean that you have to take the train every time. Same goes for a car. If you prefer driving, by all means, continue to do so. I'm not going to tell you how to get around. I think it depends heavily on where you live as well. For me, any trip shorter than, say 2 miles, is literally easier and faster by bike, so I use my bike. Also, I suspect only few people in Denmark would ask themselves the question you outline. In fact, most would probably begrudge using their car as much as they do, myself included.

[@scb2scb2]

@@SummitCoyote We in the netherlands have more cars per km2 than any other euro country but also have 1.3bicycles per person most of us use the bicycle because its quicker to get where we want to go its that simple. If the distance is too large or the weather sucks (trust me that happens) we might opt for a car if we don't have a car we 'rent' a car like a taxi or bus. Its not always easier to take a car i live in one of the 4 big cities here and if i need to go to work in amsterdam why would i take the car over a train+bicycle. Now the cost of a car is a issue thats why slowly many younger people don't see a car as a status symbol anymore and indeed go 'well i don't need a private car really' and save lots of money.

[@SummitCoyote]

@@scb2scb2 if you blocked car access to areas and made people ride bikes, a lot of Americans would keel over and have heart attacks or get heatstroke lol. also, what do you do when you get to work or wherever all sweaty? do you just have showers everywhere? keep clothes at the office?

[@scb2scb2]

Not many roads are closed really its more that less space is assigned for them and more to bicycles and busses. Many places of work you can take a shower but if you watch any dutch bicycle videos you know its not needed the speed is low enough avg speed is 10mph we are not trying to win the tour the france. These days also ebikes help against the dutch winds. Here is a video i made a few days ago esp. in the mode inner city you get a good idea that cars, people and busses are just fine : kzbin.info/www/bejne/omnXl4ele85_q7M

[@Takketa7]

I would say the biggest problem in the US is the roads that are very big, this means a pedestrian has a hard time walking from one place to another as crossing a street is already a journey. But people that use a bus usually are pedestrians, meaning they will only use a bus to get to a place that is close to a bus stop. People transporting goods as groceries will rarely be seen in the US as most shops are not within walking distance from peoples homes, this is why everyone in the US needs a car.

[@adamknott7830]

You hit the nail on the head for "who cares what my car hit as long as Im safe." I was in a crash a couple years ago in my prius. We were T boned but it was by a slightly smaller Ford compact car. If it was a full sized truck like people frequently drive here in Indiana, me and my wife could have ended up in the hospital instead of being able to walk away with no harm done. It scares me to think about it

[@michaeltraube6400]

I just love the plate in the back from Austria; from Graz "G-IWROCKER" NICE!!!

[@rvdb8876]

Interesting detail, the Belgian (Flemish) bus builder Van Hool is bankrupt, largely thanks to the Flemish (state-related) public transport company "de Lijn", which preferred to order buses in China rather than award the order to Van Hool, despite the fact that In the Netherlands, enormous problems and defects were reported with the same Chinese buses. Van Hool is/was known worldwide for its quality. My 2 cents from Belgium.

[@loysvideo]

They will probably take electric buses. In the long term, they will bite their fingers when some bus burns in deposits or others.

[@richardhall6034]

Most of the busses in the UK have free WiFi as well

[@peterhallman9614]

I rarely take public transit nowadays, but I used to. The most important thing to me was it being actually convenient and somewhat regular and fast. An alternative or complement to driving. In the US for example, taking public transit is slower than using a car in most cases. They don't run regularly enough, are inefficient, slow (like busses getting stuck in traffic), don't go to places people want to be at, etc. The issues make car traffic worse as well. If some of the people who drove their car could be at least tempted to take public transit sometimes, it would mean fewer cars on the road and less parking and road-space needed.

[@AnnekeOosterink]

The thing is most people who take the bus (or other public transport, or a bike, or who walk etc) also have a car. We have two cars, one for me and one for my husband. At my husband's previous job there was a direct bus from near our house straight to his office building, so he took the bus at least half the time. He changed jobs and while he could still take public transport, it's shorter and quicker to take the car because we live in a smaller town and there is no direct bus to his new job. He would have to transfer to a train and then another bus. But even if the car is quicker now, he would still be able to take the bus if he couldn't drive for whatever reason. It would just take a bit longer due to transfer time. If we visit a city center we park our car on a park and ride car park and take the bus. Usually you either can take the bus for free with your parking ticket or you can park for free and only pay for the bus. This is much cheaper and easier than trying to find a parking spot in the center that also costs an arm and a leg.

[@Herzschreiber]

Exactly my thought. If you go grocery shopping to a big Supermarket on the outskirt of the city, you will clearly use your car. But when you are planning to visit the city center (which in most bigger European cities might be a "pedestrian zone", you'd have to find a parking garage / parking lot. If you planned to stay in the center..... let's say for 3 or 4 hours, a parking garage would cost approximately double the price of taking a bus or tram, if not more! In the US you won't have any problems with parking your car close to your destination, so, why should Americans want to take a bus, where they suspect to stumble upon the poorest, the homeless or the freaks who cannot afford a car? It may be true what Uncle Sam's citizens think: That public transportation is not safe because only used by hobos and junkies. There is simply no good reason to take a bus. In Europe it makes sense to own a car AND use public transportation depending on where you want to go and what you want to do. A friend of mine had a job at a university hospital. They had a parking for employees, but since many of them used it even if they were off duty (for shopping or whatever), they placed a payment barrier at the entry. And gosh, it was expensive! So from that day on she used to take her car to a park and ride and took the bus from there, it was way cheaper than going by car!

[@gregorybiestek3431]

@@Herzschreiber What you Europeans do not understand is that in the USA ALL transit systems require local approval & taxes. With spread-out development, the entire transit line has fewer possible passengers within walking distance that a single stop in Europe. Therefore, it is extremely costly for the few passengers, so low-tax politicians regularly target these transit options as wasting money & local people vote against transit to save a little money. Typical comment - "why should I pay for something only some poor drug addict is going to use?" No local money - no transit at all or very little.

[@Herzschreiber]

@@gregorybiestek3431 Okay, good point. My reply was only adressing the idea that Germans either have a car or use public transportation system, because that isn't true. An other thing I guess has to be taken into account is, that gas is way cheaper in the US, so using a car is less expensive. If people could save money and their taxes wouldn't rise, they would likely be glad to have some transit systems instead of avoiding them?

[@gregorybiestek3431]

@@Herzschreiber Those options were destroyed in the period between 1946 & 1960. In 1945 the USA had excellent transit systems as well as excellent intracity rail & even some high-speed rail. That was all gotten rid of in favor of cars & airplanes. To get anything half as good as what Europe has would cost well over a Trillion $ nation wide, or about $5-to$10 Billion per city. without taxes, it cannot be done. Our corporate America would also fight it tooth & nail because they are locked into making profits from the current system.

[@michalandrejmolnar3715]

The problem is really structural and material rather than a case of mindset and thinking. You need to buy more buses, invest more into rail, trams, trolleybuses so that people can use the service and it's convenient.

[@Rick_Zune]

As someone that makes enough to buy a brand new car every month I still take the tram to work every day here in Sweden. Sure I own 2 cars, but it takes 6-8 mins on the tram while it takes 45-60 mins with the car and then I still need to park. Sure some of that is by design but considering a tram comes every 5 mins, it's comfortable and I spend my time on it chilling with a coffee and reading something it's so much nicer than spending time in the car just to get to work. The same goes for busses, it's just easier to use here, sure I still use my car quite often but I almost always have the option not to and it's always a nice enough experience on the bus/tram that I really don't need a car. Still I live in a large city, it's less crystal clear in rural areas, sure they have busses etc as well, but you do need a car to be "comfortable" doing anything other than going to and from work for the most part.

[@exiledknight3961]

new ones look a lot better here. The reason ours look outdated is simply because they lasted longer, believe it or not. So we were slower to replace them.

[@samlanganke1262]

These Van Hool buses from Belgium you called "futuristic" are actually in service in my middle-european hometown. A city with just a little bit more than 200.000 inhabitants, And they are trolleybuses, so fully electric. The kind of design of the bus you called "typical" for America now was last seen here in the 1990s. And you have to consider that the "life" of a bus spans from around 15 to 20 years. My city changes its entire fleet every 12 to 15 years.

[@reinhard8053]

The "London" double decker busses can be found in other cities, too. At least in Edinburgh.

[@stevieinselby]

Yes, double decker buses are common in towns and cities right across the UK.

[@floseatyard8063]

And Ireland

[@BanaJasotto]

i live in germany, i have no driverlicense, cause.... for what? ich can go everywhere i want, and its cheaper

[@EmaMariaOndruskova]

The user experience on buses in my city is superb. They are super low to the ground so folks with mobility issues can board easily. They even have retractable wheelchair ramp so if the bus driver sees you at the stop in a wheelchair, they get off, open the ramp for you, stove it back and get back into the drivers cabin. There is also a specific spot for wheelchairs and people are usually very polite about this, so they clear the space for you automatically. Within this space there is also a special button you need to press when you want to get off to notify the driver that they need to come help with the ramp at the next stop. The buses on the line that connects the main railway station with the airport have extra space with shelves for luggage. Some buses have usb ports in which you can charge your electronics. In the summer they add these special lines that go to nearby hiking and biking trails with buses that accommodate specifically for travel with your bike. Every vehicle also has at least one ticket validation box where you can pay with your credit or debit card. It even works with the nfc in your phone or watch. It is super easy, you just get on, tap your card and you’re good to go. Plus one trip costs like 1.30 € so it’s very accessible to everyone really. Plus there are so many options for buying a ticket. You can use a machine that takes coins and gets you a physical ticket, you can buy a ticket on your phone with an app, you can buy a ticket by sending an SMS, you can get a buss pass or you can load up your buss card with money and buy your ticket for each trip on the bus with it.

[@ArtemIsABadName]

In Prague,Czechia the normal 12m(39feet) city buses have 4 doors and the longer articulated 18m(59feet) ones have even 5 doors. The shorter 8,5m(27feet) ones have 2 doors.

[@DaGuys470]

One thing I've noticed is that a lot of US transit looks very old-school and almost industrial. You have those massive, boxy vehicles, many of them chrome and without much of a soul. Think for example about the NY or Chicago metro or the buses in San Francisco. And speaking of trains: Amtrak, which just looks like a giant metro, rather than a long-range travel option. This trend had even reached the aviation industry. Remember when American Airlines planes used to be all chrome-colored and industrial-looking?

[@papalaz4444244]

There is another thing here. Is it correct that USA doesn't really have widespread chip and pin and contactless debit card tech? I say this because paying for the bus with contactless is common here and it makes travel really simple. No change required.

[@IWrocker]

We have tap and contactless for various retail, shopping, tolls, etc. as for buses and transit, I have No idea honestly

[@dougbrowning82]

@@IWrockerWe have special, contact less, Peggo cards in Winnipeg. But the system has been plagued with problems since it as introduced over 10 years ago. But they're talking about replacing it with a more flexible system that will accept debit, credit cards, and even smart phones.

[@papalaz4444244]

@@IWrocker ok cool. Yes you can use that on transport in UK anyway (and almost certainly all europe) - there are also various smart travel cards you can buy so it's all cashless. (you can still use change it's fine)

[@xHadesStamps]

On buses here, you generally can’t even swipe. You *have* to either use cash or buy a pass.

[@muppetpaster]

6:30 In Holland we've got them too....We also have/had busses that kneeled for you, so it is easier to enter, without a high step....So the bus was leaning towards the busstop, lowering its suspension...

[@padmeamidala4883]

In Switzerland electric stepping boards that lower to the sidewalk level

[@nikiandre6998]

Watching video from Sweden, going to Stockholm from Värmdö, it is kind of lose kommun, 30 min trip. Sitting in quite old Scania, fastened seatbelt, 3 doors, 3 axles, low floors, smooth riding on air suspension.. But you know, what they do during the stops? Right side (doors side) lowers down every time, putting entrance on same level with platform. And USB chargers everywhere. And this vehicle is from 2016.

[@ankra12]

The mentality in the US is very strange when it comes to public transport. Also the buses looks so oldfashioned.

[@qjtvaddict]

And disgusting too

[@brucemcgoose7609]

It’s just how it is here. With the importance and development of the automobile industry here and the generally young age of our country we have individual cars for each families as our main mode of transportation.

[@geofrancis2001]

​@@brucemcgoose7609It was designed to keep "people of colour" without cars out the suburbs. its nothing to do with the age of the country.

[@stennostenno1346]

its M.A.N. : Maschinenfabrik Augsburg-Nürnberg AG, a german bus manifacturer. The lion on the Logo is actually the Braunschweig lion when they merged with Heinrich-Buessing-Werke

[@michelbeauloye4269]

Hi there! Here from Luxembourg, a tiny country with traffic jams in the morning and in the late afternoon (rush times). I come back to your last words and I agree with you that with a personal car , you can go where you want, when you want, how you want. The cost of owing a personal car is not relevant here, but is important. However, whenever I want/need to go in the city, I prefer tp use the bus or street car (tram) which is way cheaper because its free, because of no parking fee (and no risk of getting a ticket!) and more comfortable without getting nervous in the traffic jam (busses have dedicated lanes) and no worry to find a parking place.

[@mikegeekie9125]

“Policies and regulations” is that Freedom!! lol

[@Aotearas]

One of the most perplexing things I saw on my trip to the US was what qualifies as a bus stop. Literally just a sign. There wasn't even a pedestrian walkway, it was just a sign saying bus stop on the green next to the road.

[@Hen_von_Amis]

even in europe there are busstops like that in really remote area's however i have heard that these bustops are dewindeling

[@Aotearas]

@@Hen_von_Amis The only thing remotely close that've seen here in Germany were bus stops with a little wooden shack as shelter netxt to the main village road, but even those were luxurious compared to that thing I saw in the US. Not that I'm categorically denying that the same thing can be in other palces, europe or wherever, or that every bus stop in the US looks like that, but the juxtaposition of that bus stop in the middle of a US city compared to what I see daily in my own was baffling.

[@Hen_von_Amis]

@@Aotearas As I said the number such busstops are dwindling and the quality has risen in my area t just that they do exist in small number I don't know about Germany but do I know stops that are 1 small Platform and a Bus bollard that what I mean

[@stevieinselby]

@@Hen_von_Amis That was certainly common in rural areas in the UK, but these days more and more of them are at least getting a raised pavement to help people with wheelchairs or pushchairs get on/off.

[@timboz82]

It's the same in many cities in Europe. Just outside my door in the suburbs of Dublin, we have 1 proper bus stop, and the rest are just posts on the sidewalk or on grass. One thing to consider is the footprint, and the distance between stops. In Dublin the stops are way too close from each other to allow a proper stop with seating. However, having grown in the outskirts of Bordeaux, the distance between stops was greater, and cities had proper (wide to regular size) sidewalks so you could have covered stops with one or more benches, which btw were given for free by J.C Decaux (the advert company the french equivalent to clear channel) who was paying for them through the ads they displayed on the side.

[@CloudyBogdan]

I remember riding the bus that bends in the middle. Was cool to stand in the middle and see the inside center spin. I wanna see it again.

[@davedevonlad7402]

My local bus in the southwest of England is a double decker with full high back, faux leather seats with usb charging ports and armrests with good heating in the winter and this is for a local 30min to 1 hour journeys. Btw M.A.N is an abrivation in Germany but in the uk i have always heard MAN as in a guy/bloke its always been this way. So if i verbally said it,its MAN but if i write it down then its M.A.N. Weird i know but thats the way it is been done here for many years. Same as Volvo we don't say the full name Swedish: Volvokoncernen; legally Aktiebolaget Volvo, shortened to AB Volvo, stylized as VOLVO) We just say Volvo.

[@laurielkami1100]

as a swiss , no bus company can beat our car postal service . Even in the most random village you will have at least one bus every 2 hours (during the day) that is ultra confortable , with wifi and even sometimes an outlet . They are kinda costly if you dont have an AG (it cost like 360 a month for all transportation in the country to be free) but it happened more than one time that i fell asleep in them and got either lost or the driver drove me back home

[@MLWJ1993]

I actually used to be on a trajectory that had the chance of getting you on a "discobus" in the evening hours, it had these 90's disco songs playing + a discoball in the middle hanging from the ceiling.

[@ladykimono401]

I live in Norway so buses here needs to be stupid strong. They have to deal with ice, snow steep hills and narrow roads. They also have to deal with the few days of the year where it gets hot enough to ear a t-shirt... And they do! Just today I have been on two different buses to get to classes on the other side of town. One normal bus, and one bendy bus. Both where quiet, comfy and fast. And warm! My god, getting into a warm bus and just listening to my tunes as the world flows by, its relaxing. And here's the thing: Having a good bus service will not replace the car. I live in the suburbs. I need the car to do groceries and most errands. But being able to choose the bus, its very nice. So to all those Americans that is scared that the bus will replace their car, no. It wont. It will free up the roads, and maybe the family can get by on one less car. That will save money for the family, and just make things a lot easier.

[@gregorybiestek3431]

It has nothing to do with any fears of car replacement, but rather simply economics. The typical transit stop in Europe has 1,000 possible passengers, while due to spread-out development the typical USA stop has about 30 possible passengers. there are some transit lines in the USA that barely have more potential passengers that a single European stop. because it cost so much for so few possible passengers, many USA communities get rid of or never implement anything like you have in Europe. This results in only the very poor who cannot afford a vehicle using transit which just makes it even easier for low-tax politicians to campaign against any public transit at all. politics of division works well in the USA!

[@ladykimono401]

@@gregorybiestek3431 Well, as I said, I live in Norway. A country with 39 people per mile squared. I think my stop will have 5 passengers enter or get of on a good day. Other then that, yea, I think your right. Too much suburban development and an image of only the poorest using mass transit. I really do belive it would be beneficial to most communities in the US to use more mass transit, and I really wish more politicians would realise that and actually want to improve the lives of their constituency.

[@gregorybiestek3431]

@@ladykimono401 Norway is lucky in that it has a sovereign wealth fund to pay for a lot of amenities like transit in low passenger areas. The USA has no such pot of money and any $$ raised would NEVER be used to help the common person in a community. If it does not help a corporation or a politician in some way, it does not happen at all.

[@fhoulbr]

For your information, MAN's coming from "Maschinenfabrik Augsburg-Nürnberg AG", which originates back to 1758, one of the oldest Ruhr manufactures named something like "High hopes" (Gute Hoffnung). Two manufactures merged, one from Augsburg and one from Nürnberg in 1898, one year after Rudolf Diesel did build the first motor (in his name) in Augsburg. It will definitively be named M.A.N (notice the dots) around 1908. M.A.N has a rich history through the first and second world wars, it does have as well a major part in the design of modern European diesel trucks. In 1986, the company will be merged with GHH (which was already the owner of M.A.N) under the name of MAN AG (without the dots). So I would say prior to 1986, spelling it as "M.A.N" was the right way but nowadays, most people say "MAN" as a word. This company was bought by Volkswagen in 2021.

[@samuelbhend2521]

Low Floor Buses are widely used in Europe now, as Wheelchair-accessability is mandatory by Law....

[@xHadesStamps]

Meanwhile, in the US: 70%, with only one spot that can even be used by wheelchair users? Eh, good enough.

[@const2499]

I used to surfe with others in those axels just standing free while driving is so much fun

[@NK-bj8li]

Since last year my town in England acquired 20 hydrogen busses, which have joined the diesel and hybrid busses on the road.

[@MichaEl-rh1kv]

MAN stands for Maschinenfabrik Augsburg-Nürnberg = Machine factory Augsburg - Nuremburg. It was a merger of two machine factories in Augsburg and Nuremberg back in 1898, which founded in 1915 a joint venture with Swiss Automobilwerke Adolph Saurer, the Lastwagenwerke (Truck factory) M.A.N.-Saurer, first producing in Lindau at Lake Constance, then moving to Nuremberg.

[@stephaniechbakingtraveler4262]

Our buses here in Basel, Switzerland are all Mercedes Benz, longer with two bendy, 4 doors, a door for children carriage and for disabled, and electric

[@module79l28]

7:34 - The electric bus shown in the video is not battery powered, it's powered by those overhead cables. They're like trains without tracks. Here in Portugal we call them "tróleis" (the Portuguese spelling of the English word). The used to operate in three cities, Porto, Braga and Coimbra, but now Coimbra is the only one that has them. Apart from a short interregnum, they've been operating there since 1947. 🙂

[@YuriChan-428]

Here in Czechia, SOR bus is really common. And it is really nice, here where a lot of people drink alcohol, you can't drive can you? So we rely on public transport because drunk driving will kill us all... It is just a given here, you are going to visit a friend in a different town, you are going to party, you ain't driving there. Simple as that. Edit: Sure I have sober friends that could drive me there, but they aren't always available and it is more of a mess compared to public transport that is ready once an hour at least.

[@petrtomsej6064]

You're becoming my fav KZbin channel :D your content is really enjoyable, and as i'm from Europe (Czech), its flattering to watch you drink our beer or react to our buses or whatever 😃😃

[@stevieinselby]

As well as the quality of the vehicles, there's also the question of coverage. In the UK (and for reference, much of Europe does this better than the UK), a village of 1,000 people will usually have at least a daily bus, a town of 5,000 people will usually have at least an hourly service - my town of 20,000 people has a bus every 15 minutes to the nearest city, buses every hour to the nearest towns in three other directions, and one or two buses per hour to residential areas of the town ... and this is a town that has a good train service as well!

[@rohesilmnelohe]

Estonia here: We have trolleys, trams and EXTENSIVE bus networks in bigger cities. Main bus manufacturers in use are Scania and MAN. Coaches are pretty much exclusively Scania Irizar variants. And newer city buses, like most of the new trucks in our company, are CNG powered. It cuts down on smog from the soot billowing diesels (diesel cars should be banned from cities anyway). And since a lot of them seem to be actually hybrids (ICE just runs a generator that poweres the electric motors, they are really quiet and comfortable. Trolleybuses are since 2002 almost exclusively Solaris Trollino models and only used in the capital Tallinn. Other cities do not use them.

[@CarlosRibeiro-rz5dg]

I live in Portugal,not all councils,but in mine bus is free for residents,plus it has USB ports and free wifi onboard 😅😁

[@Widur42]

You had quite an important misunderstanding around minute 12. The reason why there are so many trucks and SUV's in the US is because car safety regulations DO NOT apply to them. This also includes safety regulations for the passengers. It is actually less safe to drive in a truck, because truck frames are much stiffer and do not allow for impact absorptions as well as cars do because of said regulations. This also means they are cheaper to produce and put on the (US) market, because these regulations DO NOT apply.

[@xHadesStamps]

Even many regulations that *do* apply only do so partially.

[@cuoresportivo155]

Passengers falling asleep is not rare at all, but more common on sunday mornings. I've had a few that extended their 1 hour trip to 3 or 5 hours....

[@olivereke9264]

i remember a morning that was especially unique that morning instead of the regural city bus a nice new man model arrived to transport me to school it had tinted windows, nice heating, modern comfy interrior, especially the seats, i slept the whole way and still remember it clearly after like 10 years, it was so quiet like a bentley or any very high end luxury car, tho it was a diesel, just loved it,never seen it again for like 3 years still using public transport it was a miracle with the dimmed light my god

[@papalaz4444244]

Bus lanes or even bus roads exist elsewhere but ALL of that requires timed and controlled traffic lights which USA doesn't seem to have. Cars, buses and pedestrians get their own phase of the lights and it's all safe.

[@matt47110815]

Best Bus Service experienced in the US was in the Seattle area. 😊

[@Sugawara-Koushi]

i'm from the netherlands and my dad was a bus driver for a while so i'm quite proud, but he stopped bcuz mental problems and he has had 6 collapsed lungs by now, so he just stays home the whole time, but i'm still very proud of him, he's the best dad every (srry if i didn't spell something correctly, speaking english is easier than writing)

[@iainjones5002]

The inclusion of the Double deck bus made by ADL (Alexander Dennis Ltd) in the video, is really relevant to the USA. ADL have been exporting that model for several years, mainly to operators in the Greater San Francisco Area, where they are used on high capacity Commuter routes. Such has been their success, ADL has won orders with those operators out there for fully electric double deckers. There are other operators in the USA running that model ADL Double Decker, and from industry news across here in the UK, ADL will soon have 1000 modern Double deck buses operating in different parts of the USA

[@rahansk8200]

at home if a bus line saturates over time, the town hall transforms it into a tram line

[@AvatarPrimus]

9:01 We also have those double-decker buses here in Mexico, mainly in CDMX (Mexico City), by the way 5 out of every 10 buses in the country are Mercedes-Benz and the rest are Volvo, VW, etc. Also is funny how he said he wasn't going to talk about Mexico buses but he didn't say he wouldn't show them 5:18, 5:59, 6:39, 8:53, 16:44 LOL

[@sksaddrakk5183]

Hey IWrocker: It is definitely M.A.N which is an akronym for 'Maschinenfabrik Augsburg-Nürnberg', i.e. 'Machine manufactury Augsburg-Nuremberg'. As many heavy duty vehicle manufacturer they started as manufacturers for heavy machinery like you would use in power plants, steel mills and the textile industry (and many others)... BTW that reddish locomotive in the background of the original video is a 'Crocodile' (officially C/E 6/8) a Swiss heavy duty locomotive, which was specifically designed to pull long freight trains through the Swiss Alps, because normal locomotives did not have the power to do so (too steep tracks for them. The term C/E 6/8 stands for (speed 38-42mph, electric, 6 of 8 axles powered)

[@paulgee1355]

I noticed you mentioned London in regard to double decker buses. The fact is that double decker buses are in as much use as single deck buses all over the UK, in the vast majority of our towns and all of our cities. There are loads of them here. They aren't even that unusual a sight in the countryside. We see them every day of the week. I haven't travelled on a bus in the last 20 years though, to be honest, maybe even longer than that. Ive only travelled on one train in all that time too. Even as a resident of a country with a, relatively, decent public transport system i still prefer the convenience of my car or motorcycle. Mind you, I've never lived in a city, always been rural. Buses and trains are great but they don't collect you from your house and, mostly, don't drop you off at you front door or your mates front door, or right at the shop you're going to. You'll normally end up having to start and/or finish your public transport experience on foot or in a taxi. No waiting around at bus stops for me, I'll get in my car thanks.

[@Birger-dc5bo]

Below the MAN Letters of the logo is a lion which is the Brunswick lion the sign of the former Büssing Truck and Bus Company in Brunswick. Büssing was overtaken by MAN at the beginning of the 70's. The MAN plant in Salzgitter near Brunswick was build by Büssing short before the fusion with MAN. There exists nowadays busses (EMIL= Elektromobilität mittels induktiver Ladung/Electric mobility using inductive charging) in Brunswick that uses the current of the electic trams at the end station to recharge the batteries inductively during the recreation pause of the bus drivers.

[@JC.Holland]

From the Netherlands here. We own a car but we only use it when we go away for a weekend . We usually use the bicycle 🚲🚲 to go to work.

[@janfalkhermansen9907]

in Copenhagen city there are between 5-7 minutes between buses, metro 5 minutes and you can get everywhere

[@Mrdangerousbeans769]

Its funny that trolley bus are coming back. In the fifties when I went school in London I used to catch a trolley bus; they we scrapped sometime in the sixties. The reason given was that one bus could not overtake another, plus to turn a corner at an intersection the connect jib had to be disconnected and the conductor followed behind with the pole and reconnected once around the corner. Good old days.

[@dougbrowning82]

Modern trolley buses have batteries and can operate for short distances off wire. No more problem.

[@torstenkersten8566]

M.A,N. is still right. each letter stands for a city name where 3 different producers had their company before they merged to München Augsburg Nürnberg motor company.

[@Juanacosta-te2jk]

I live in Cordoba, a city of 300,000 inhabitants in Andalusia, in the south of Spain. All buses are geolocated and I can find out the frequency and time it will take for my bus to arrive at my bus stop from an app installed on my phone.

[@Peterraymond67]

Hi. I live in South Wales at the foot of the Rhondda Valley. We are on the intersection of two main bus routes. The north/south route runs from Tonypandy in the Rhondda to Cardiff, the west/east runs from Bridgend to Pontypridd. Because my local bus station is at the crossing point of the two routes, I can get these easily. Each route diverts through the local hospital. There are shorter local routes. The train station is about a mile away with commuter trains to Cardiff & Bridgend for connection to Swansea in the west or London and other stations on the network to the east. Because I live in Wales my local devolved government has issued over 60-year-olds a concessionary bus pass allowing free bus travel throughout Wales. Students, and others on social benefits are also offered a form of concessionary bus pass. During my working life I also worked for short periods in New York, Italy & the Netherlands, NY was the only time I needed a car, in Italy & The Netherlands local public transport was the easiest & cheapest forms of transport.

[@raistormrs]

friend of mine used a bus in america and said the side wall he was sitting next to actually was so thin, with every car overtaking the bus, the wind pressure pushed in that thin wall, so he could literally feel every car that passed him, he said he was terrified and happy to get off that thing. 😅

[@__-fi6xg]

oh i love the new busses in austrian cities, spacious and quiet plus they provide usb ports on every seat plus public internet.

[@AlbandAquino]

We're living in the the Bordeaux's suburbs. I'm French, Wifey's American. We have (in a walkable distance from my place) 5 bus lines coming through. Some of them (and this is where there's a difference with the US of A and Europe) are just interconnects to the nearby towns (they don't get you nowhere near Bordeaux). But all in all, I'm able to get wherever I want to get to in an hour. With an exception for when we have strikes. 😏(Plan ahead, they are announced in advance)

[@lindadangelo6457]

we had van hool in 1998 in Italy, unbelievable you're considering getting them just now

[@RasMosi]

We have busses that go everywhere - there are routes to the smallest towns with 15 people or less. In fact, there are 1 or more forms of public transportation within a quarter mile from ANYWHERE in my country. Half of our work population (CEO's to low paying jobs) use busses or trains as primary every day transport. (Why do you permit your media to lie to you?) your energy consumption per capita (person) is 300% higher than in my country - one of the reasons is public transport. There are up to a 100 persons in a bus, running at lower energy consumption than your average american pick-up truck.

[@celticlofts]

The bus I rode in in Illinois looked like it was built in a Tank factory, the damn thing looked indestructible. I would love to own the same kind of bus that Rosa Parks rode in - I think they're a beautiful looking bus.

[@vanesag.9863]

I have a driver's license but I don't have a car. I use trains, buses, metros and trams to travel in my city and other cities when I'm in holidays. If I need a car I ask for my father's or brother's car or I rent one. I'm shocked that you don't have good buses to travel inside or between big cities that are near each other. Here in my town we have simple ones (hybrid), bending ones (hybrid too) and a smaller ones, like a big van to serve the more twisted designed neigbourhoods and streets. The biggers ones provokes traffic jams because the drivers have to manouvre the bus and the city hall decided to put smaller ones with some "on demand" stops.

[@holgernerhoff5459]

As far as I know there are only 3 Trolley bus Systems in the states: Seattle, Boston and San Francisco. The System in Chicago is already abondened in 1973

[@J10CKO]

I live in Scotland and I have a free bus pass which means I can travel everywhere by bus without cost. I also have a car. I use the bus when it is most convenient (going into the city centre when parking can be a problem) and I use the car when it is most convenient (shopping trips and trips when one or more changes of bus would be required). Horses for courses.