IxxP, ExxJ: Single Deciders/Double Observers

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[@FrankJames]

Can you make a video about not freaking out about going to the airport? XD

[@kirtikumarbaba]

No big deal. Just run the airport scenario in your head before starting the journey. If you make it in the airplane (in your head) it means you will definitely make it in reality. and done.! you won't freak out. rather , you will enjoy the atmosphere of airport.

[@openrealm]

Within the next year you will see a girl at the airport, a perfect girl, and moments later she'll leave your life forever. (That story still pains me).

[@porusuttamsrivastava9464]

@@openrealm I get the reference lol

[@ramirroxd6986]

Fuck you Frank james

[@michaelrobichaud9131]

@@ramirroxd6986 calm down

[@samf8887]

My mom is enfj... She has literally put everything into her family and has nothing to show for it. No retirement no savings, she works herself to the bone for her family. When she works, her company and coworkers tend to take advantage of her because she is willing to go the extra mile. I'm driven to make sure she is ok and taken care of in her life. Luckily I'm an INTP and am gifted in computer science and engineering and can set her up for the rest of her life.

[@Bahador_R]

Thank you!

[@classiccarsclassicrock9433]

Been there done it.

[@chossenone9508]

I'm enfj 25 old going the same way

[@leumas8688]

Yeah, intp and computer science here too

[@sonicmaths8285]

INTJ and computer science boss here, nice Computers are just hot aren’t they

[@mlza2350]

As an INFP married to an ESFP I overwhelmingly approve of this. Our reoccuring interaction is: Why are you freaking out about what you freak out about, and why don't you freak out about what I freak out about? Very enlightening, thank you.

[@xSatsumi]

I freaking love how you explain this.

[@nobodynowhere21]

This. The last couple minutes are pure gold. The people of the world NEED this information available to them ALL. Less pills. MORE THIS!!

[@lalakuma9]

These Observer/Decider videos explain so much about why my ENTJ friend takes things as personally as I, an INFP, do! Problems about relationships and identity drive him nuts. I even mistook him as an ENFJ because he just talks about people all the time. And this also explains why the rest of my family, who are all I--J's think I'm unstable and oversensitive.

[@ryanjames1399]

Not sure what kind of IxxP I am specifically, but the hardest thing about being Di single decider for me is giving up a portion of your identity for the sake of the collective tribe. I often find it difficult to want to meet societal expectations of getting a degree or getting a job, and its not out of laziness. I simply don't value money. And because I don't value money or the collection of wealth, I often find myself frustrated and depressed that our social structure demands that I build my life around earning money, a thing I do not value. To other (ExxP, IxxJ, ExxJ) types I probably sound overdramatic to some degree, but its a serious problem for me. Forcing myself to meet others' social values can really depress me

[@lalalanding234]

Money - same here. I just am bot qualified enough to say it yet - but I wouldn't give my LIFE for it.

[@InternetLiJo]

“How are they able to go to the airport and not freak out” lmao Dave😂 ... I get it tho. 😬

[@ninawillow2429]

That's the statement helped me.

[@kirtikumarbaba]

u freaked out ?

[@julay629]

And I was like... People can freak out about this? What? 😂

[@farizanroslan]

Now I get it. I mean, how I'm able to be relatively collected when I'm at an airport. 🤔 So double observers. I see, I see.

[@AustinOllar]

Understanding that “freak out” is a big deal when correctly typing. It’s funny because for about 8 years I thought I had a freak out about self and tribe IxxP, when I really have a freak out when there is missing information IxxJ. What’s even funnier is when my ExxJ business partner has his Tribe versus self freak outs all the time, I ALWAYS let him know, well you’re just missing this INFORMATION, but a lot of times he glazes over that like it’s not that big of a deal, then continues to have his tribe/self freakout lol.

[@AustinOllar]

I honestly would get typed by Dave and Shannon. I was wrong on my type and I think most people are because of our subjective biases; it's really hard to do a self-assessment (and we tend to think we are a lot better than we actually are!)

[@AustinOllar]

Oh it actually looks like you have to be in the class (I think it was different before). It's $150 and wait time is 7-8 weeks. (It was a lot less before as far as wait time, but I think its because its in high demand right now that it increased) cl.ly/0l0i3B0V1j34

[@KingHillMemes]

MsLeanneO same here.

[@Meta-trope]

@@AustinOllar I bet that the ones that type themselves wrong are not double obersvers xD. I mean once you gather all the info on cognitive functions from MBTI, Socionics and OPS, then reorganize all that info in comparison with the facts of your past, your tendencies, and the feedback of others, you can see more accurately how you fit in the ratios between the functions. I have to admit I had to really wrap my head around the savior/demon functions, especially for the identifying the animals, but following the OPS clear algorithm of typing should help you succeed if you know yourself well, beyond your desires. Stoicism and Dao helps too I guess. Anyway, ENTJ fatigued PB/C(S) 5W6 here, signing off to do more productive things. xD

[@luisguimaraes5682]

One day that meltdown hit me hard and suddenly I was in depression. I was lost, not knowing what I was going in life, no idea who I was and what I wanted to do in life... 😥 I got tired of seeking validation from my family. I used to do everything for them and nothing was ever enough. Everyone else was better than me, tried harder... I was never good enough. I wasn't having any time left for myself and others were always expecting that I would show up to solve problems. After years and years of dedication I got not even a thanks... EXTJ here.

[@aprylmonk]

ENTJ woman here... This video is spot on.

[@Meta-trope]

I'm a simple man, I see a fellow ENTJ, I press like.

[@pjackson7395]

INTP here (typed by D&S) and I fucking love UFOs, damnit! It's true though - I'm pretty chill about it. Evil plots pertaining to population control? Meh, maybe. UFOs operating in our airspace? Yeah - we have evidence for that. Meh. Sasquatch stomping around in the wilderness? Sure - maybe. I've noticed that EP's FREAK THE FUCK OUT about this stuff. I can talk about such topics all day long and be in my element - I enjoy it. The EPs seem to discuss it with this overbearing sense of 'impending doom' attached; I'm just like "Yeah, chill. It's interesting but fuck, man".

[@anthibucchieri7508]

Hm, I'm starting to think my grandpa is a single observer - he's always freaking out about conspiracies lolol Whereas I just... find them really fascinating, I guess (unless they're really dumb, in which case they just annoy me), but I'm not constantly freaking out about them - too busy freaking out about the Tribe lol

[@joevaghn457]

OMG SAME I’m likely INFP, ISFP, or ENFJ and can’t fathom why IJs and EPs freak out so much over missing info or “different” things. Like, you if you don’t use the “correct” tool for the job, an ISTJ (really just what they Always have used) might lose their shit. Lol

[@upstartfenix]

Wife and are I enfj entj. Dying laughing. So spot on.

[@AndreaCrisp]

Hmm. I've thought that I was an INFP and my husband an ESTJ. I feel like he does not freak out about anything. Ha ha I will have to pay attention to it now that I am seeing it through this lense.

[@kbg12ila]

Yeah I never freak out about things only ever people. Mostly myself. And I guess it's at the cost of the tribe since I can end up cancelling on friends or family and just stay alone the whole time in my feelings, or doing something alone. My mum who is probably ESFJ is also worried about people too, she goes insane when someone in the tribe is hurt or in trouble and many times I've had to tell her to look out for herself and not other people.

[@ryandrew9937]

1:04 “No dumbass” gets me every time 😆

[@komradmango2305]

INTP here realizing that I may not be an actual INTP... but an ESTJ...

[@Heleyrine]

StiffRime well maybe that happened because an ESTJ's subconsious is an ISTP

[@brackonstudios]

I went through that as well (not really an Organizer, just I sucked at it and recently started focusing in on it for once in my life. 'This is so interesting it must be my main interest!'), his Peacocking video helped me see that. kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z2ivppSBpaiietk

[@InternetLiJo]

Join the OP class! You’ll iron that shit out!

[@superdjaction]

StiffRime I thought I was an ESTJ. Thus far, it’s seems that I am an Ti/Ni ISTP

[@maryphoenix5414]

I had something really similar happen to me, thought I was INFP then in one striking point I realised I was a ESJF

[@timo4258]

I'm definitely more freak about my own identity rather than whatever mess could be happening around me. Isn't that just a low self-esteem thing though?

[@qazplm3845]

Not necessarily You can have a low self esteem by focusing on whatever else is happening with the people around you So for example, you get bullied at school and don’t have friends The world around you affects you and lowers your self esteem, and this judgement doesn’t have to do with what you think by yourself. So essentially tribe vs identity

[@lalalanding234]

Same thing I've been wondering here Or maybe low self esteem is a decider thing

[@Ivan23966]

Now it all makes sense! Half of my head is not real

[@mirjetagjika]

I'm new here. It sound to me somehow similar to Enneagram, the base fears and struggles. Appreciate the tips for self improve that I heard in some videos.

[@yummy8074]

So TL;DR: IxxP or ExxJ = life is hard because people fuck it up for other people IxxJ or ExxP = life is hard because of random occurances that people cannot control Do I understand it correctly?

[@Heroqualle9]

This is some cool ass information

[@claudialuvsu21]

2:27 wow you really called me out there 😂 #attacked

[@awatt6088]

I feel... i don't understand how people can just freak out about facts and not identity... I freak about about not having enough facts but its like always linked to identity. Man you could give me a whole report about who I am and give me everything I need to believe you... but if it doesn't resonate with who I am....

[@chocoberry434]

i really, reallyy likee your video btww, soo objective like the name of this channel❤

[@CarolinaSoulStar]

I was so with this thinking, yes I think this does confirm my likely IxxP, but then the not freaking out about going to the airport has thrown me 🤷‍♀️

[@rosabscura]

That part was about ijs and eps

[@nternetrat]

1:00 thank u

[@chocoberry434]

"the ej with the te/fe at the top all they doing all day is running around pleasing everyone"😭😭😭🙏🏻

[@pamelam4]

What if the things you freak out about change? When I was a teen I definitely freaked out a lot over what people thought of me but now in my 30's I am constantly freaking out over Se related stuff (well I guess I always freaked out about that, I just notice more now that I'm an adult who doesn't care about my place in society.)

[@JessMaxwellVEVO]

I was wondering the same thing, puberty and teenage social concerns...how do they impact type?

[@timo4258]

I think in another video he said growing up pains don't really count, we all go through those.

[@mikeo7803]

Maybe your identity just hasn't been challenged in a while

[@evaanjos]

that was so useful

[@manituan4956]

I've typed myself several times as an INTJ, but I'm clearly a single decider. So back to square one.

[@batcavehq]

OMG! This is me and my brother who hates me! How do I make him stop hating me, Dave? We are opposites and he's an ESTJ and we had a super effed-up childhood and he can't get over it because he's always focused on getting approval from the tribe and he won't listen to me because he's shunning me? I wish I could help him avoid a regrettable future and get over the past.

[@wendyraye]

I freak out at the airport. What am I?🤣

[@atomnous]

This is a bit confusing because missing information is my big mission in life. But what freaks me out is self vs tribe. Gathering Se (being physical and doing extreme activities) also freaks me out but I will force myself to do it on a whim if I think it's necessary

[@purplemind93]

Dude I don't know... This feels simplified. What do you mean I'm either freaking out about information or my identity? Can't I do both?

[@josehenriquefs888]

You do both, but one is way more intense than the other

[@Meta-trope]

@@josehenriquefs888 You can take both espresso or cappuccino, but you'll like one more than the other, dislike one more than the other.

[@superdjaction]

1:41 that’s me every night

[@catinthepeng2686]

... who freaks out about getting to the airport... oh yeah, my INTJ friend, and my ISJ parents... they're always telling me I need to give them this information or that information, and it's annoying because it's obvious to me. But they never have people troubles like I do. IxxP issues.

[@BimmerWon]

I freak out about identity and tribe and control and chaos about equally. Guess that means I’m a decider and an observer.

[@MaxTimoney]

I freak out about all these things whoop whoop

[@hfortenberry]

Your friend next to you is reversed. 50:50 chance they're reversed. LOL Yeah, we know, because that's how odds work when two people are involved. ;-) Just teasing you. This was actually super interesting video! My Dad, Stepmom and brother are all Deciders and I'm an INTJ so an Observer and I'm always amazed at how well they handle all the STUFF in life! I literally tell them this on a monthly basis. And I am quite sure they are amazed that I don't give a damn what people think about me. The FINALLY gave up trying to convince me to wear makeup when I was in my 40's. LOL They even sat me down once and straight up asked me sincerely why it didn't bother me what people thought about how I dress (hair/makeup mostly - I'm kind of a hippy).

[@djgranville]

Damn... I always ask and think who I am😂🤦🏽‍♂️

[@kayr.4139]

GODDAMNIT. yep

[@cosmicyoke]

hey Dave what is your take on socionics?

[@joan3891]

I've been going over and over this... I had a freak out that I've been typing myself wrong.... so I had to go over and over info on the same thing (Ni) then this clarified.... I don't freak out over people.... I go after the info (hook the missing info) and then go from there. Although I was kind of excited that I would be another type..... I'm totally open to being wrong. Still the asshole intj I always was. damnit

[@emailgothacked]

I keep getting confused on 'demons' and 'saviors'. Because I hate my Fe. (enfj) and it screws shit up... so I tell myself it's my demon. I called it my 'smeagol' like lord of the ring.... it's like: "my treasurous ring' while actually that is screwing up things for itself. I feel safe when I'm hanging out deep within myself, Ni. And it's special to me if I can make art or something else to express myself for a change in a way that anyone can understand (ti). And also: to feel a sense of release through ti activities combined with ni. So I see how Ni saves myself and ti takes care and nurtures myself... so I call that my inner mermaid lol. It just swims freely and is in her own natural water and whatnot. (I'm working on creating an art piece about this). So I giggle at how you use the terms and the meaning of it. And how I use my terms and how we mean the same thing. Coooowwwl.

[@unrealnews]

The confidence with which he explains this makes this suspicious. Show me where he’s overcome a difficulty or solved a real problem. I want to be onboard, I really do. I need to see where he’s not just a madman in his basement making up theories.

[@rosabscura]

I’d say just continue w research. This stuff lines up with a lot of the info you’ll inevitably find.

[@stevester9148]

Not sure I agree on the people vs. things. Have you ever met an ESTP? They're ALL about people. Likewise an ENTJ can be borderline misanthropic. I would actually use the metaphor of IJs/EPs feeling like they are passengers in life and IPs/EJs feeling like their are pilots in life.

[@nachiketpargaonkar8646]

I agree! That one point was going against the other basis of 2nd step! I almost certainly am an IxxP & yet I want to talk about traits, things, ideas & not people.

[@TheNicMMc]

@Nachiket Pargaonkar Because those things make you happy but if you were talk about people, you would start listing off things that they had wrong you on.

[@nachiketpargaonkar8646]

@@TheNicMMc As in? Can you elaborate?

[@MylesKillis]

Or maybe thats just what you notice

[@tomwright9904]

OP is so pro EJ....

[@bellarose8511]

Ok sloooow doooownnn

[@kiaturunen]

I thought I was an Observer or at least an ExxJ because I lived off of internet 90% of my time, for about 70-80% of my whole life. Gen Z stuff, growing up with a screen for your head, you know? So because I was constantly observing just by being addicted to the dopamine hit of seeing new things (I still kinda am, but less so), I would try to type myself all the time with very wonky and messed up reasonings that didn't match up with reality at all. And if anyone irl would make any comments that fit my current idea of my type, I'd latch onto it for dear life, making all these analysis and "observations" of how it's exactly that. Kinda like living life always a bit alcoholized or something weird like that. Slight imbalance all the time in both my reasoning and my observing skills. But to see how I'm without the screen, without the anxiety given by all this outside input... It's so mellow, definitely me vs the world (which has been noticed once or twice even when under the "influence" of the computer, but missed later bc something else came up), and so SC-energy that it's ridiculous. But hey. Because I messed up my identity journey as a young adult, I was able to go for jobs & hobbies out of perceived tribe pressure and hyperfocus on things I didn't actually care about - because "If I don't do that, the Tribe will think I'm horrible and broken and and---". Idk how to explain this but I do blame being tied to my laptop for most of my problems. And then I blame the Tribe for letting me do that from such a young age that I didn't learn self discipline to not do it myself, haha. But now I'll have to switch that in order to actually live an actual life, not a fake one. Last minute disclaimer: I only ever "blast" online and I might not know what I'm talking about because I still haven't gotten used to living out of the online realm. I'm probably INTP because it keeps coming up so much and as I do indeed casually do double observing, that much I know, but then the rest is just up to grabs until I get to a more normal state.

[@ReeThealien]

B-but.. what am I if I’m freaking about all four? I don’t even know anymore if I’m INFP or anything else

[@isomny1526]

Izu mi I thought the same and I am an INFP, too 😂 Is it possible to be a mixtype and sometimes prefer one function and sometimes another one? Or is it just an INFP thing to doubt everything to find the truth?

[@ReeThealien]

Mariska - It’s an INFP thing to doubt our identity tbh..? Most INFPs tend to have identity crisis ( because we attach our identity to our feelings/values/opinions, which is not a good thing )

[@cliffordwilliams473]

Is there an order to any of this? Where should I begin?

[@Mayakran]

What if you’re freaking out about people causing chaos? 🤔

[@Null_9703]

What if I freak out about my own identity, as well as my future based on university acceptances

[@satoshinakamoto5710]

This is pretty good Te general guide, but doesn't really answer the problem of looping types. Like FeSe being double deciders despite of being ExxJs. Or PiJi types who are obsessed about identity.

[@aurorebergen2779]

As someone who's been obsessed with UFOs during my teenage years, I feel offended 😂 - Fellow weird ISFP

[@crash1998100]

You mentioned single observer panicing at an airport. Would he confiscated the lack of information by communicating with people? Would that be in reverse with single desiders. They'd try to stock up on every single detail to insure they won't have to rely on others?

[@Arlyon9999]

PlayCreatively I definitely won’t go anywhere without extensive research. Also will literally never rely on others unless there is no other choice.

[@crash1998100]

Tekuila Same. However I do it from pure anxiety. Not wanting there to be a single plausible scenario conjured up from my Ne where I would not have a ready solution to.

[@anthibucchieri7508]

YES. I always try not to rely on the Tribe and go with my Observers first

[@johnnygilbert8163]

How do i book an appointment?

[@awatt6088]

Freaks out about MBTI. Looks like im freaking out about facts. Actually freaking out about: Myself. And how I need to know for myself and even when my tribe tells me to just relax... its hard to. It keeps me up I need to know who I am in this system cause I know who I am and to not know who I am is NOT an option. I dont want to be some tribe following zombie. LOL almost crying wow.

[@evilallensmithee]

What is it when someone has a trouble getting tribe validation so they try to ignore the need? If anything.

[@rosabscura]

That’s called being an intp lol

[@treblestrings6263]

@@rosabscura I'm an INTP, but where's the solution? Go live on a mountain?

[@TechReviewTom]

XD 'No dumbass" hahaha

[@waykee33]

Are INFJs fearful/ worry regarding people (F)?

[@ghozaleetachi]

1:03

[@whowillyoucallonthen4292]

"No, dumbass. Huh-huh, huh-huh, huhuhuhuh."

[@whowillyoucallonthen4292]

Yeah. I like the models (a lot). But, here's the thing with this whole 50/50 (because there's some theory somewhere which states something like: "The probability of everything boils down to at least a 50/50 chance of being right/wrong.." Yada yada.. *BOOORING* ) thing: Give me a coin. I will flip it 100, 200, 300... etc etc times. And, I can 100% guarantee you I'll "guess" right far more than 50/50. Here's the *REAL* kicker: I can do that because of... Wait for it..... Science.

[@flowerchild6950]

Can ur personality type change

[@orangeziggy348]

"if they are a decider, they will be relatively calm in their observations" what does this 'calm' mean?

[@lonelypad3993]

It means I absolutely don't care if someone is controlling me or is causing chaos xD

[@darklight898]

Man i know that u have grasped this concept but kindly slow down..i need time to process this.. Well done

[@summermoksha1624]

What is ur freaking about missing information for identity

[@karenjspence]

What makes me freak out is that you are a decider if you are a double observer. Could we have chosen more confusing titles?

[@bilalkhares9337]

'I've got nothing' ENTJ's being the highest earners 😂

[@keithparker1346]

They've got nothing that matters

[@Liravin]

1:33 I'm in this picture and I don't like it.

[@tombain5665]

Probably the most understandable explanatory educator on MBTI. Fantastic metaphors similies to assist the learning process. UNFORTUNATELY the manic pace of delivery does not help at all. Very sadly it switched me off and I would like to follow the channel. Please slow it down

[@akaboo69]

I believe in super natural things. But I'm a double observer it dose don't phase me.

[@dontaskgabbie]

Ewwwww small talk

[@MohammadNihalShaikh]

Hahaha relatable

[@Arlyon9999]

Gabbie Small talk is for noobs.

[@HitomiAyumu]

What's wrong with small talk?

[@Arlyon9999]

It's draining and pointless. And filled with fakeness.

[@dontaskgabbie]

Tekuila yes thank you

[@getreadywithmemamma6973]

That’s because of the aliens want to come and play we would then freakin’ kick them and, or try to give them pizza depending on the vibe. Why the F do you freak out about everything? There are literally people who decide what we do with things regardless of how you feel. 🤭😉😆

[@begovicvic89]

The way you describe ixxp's makes me believe you get the sense that they are self centered too much? 😅

[@sphinxx5322]

Hi :) Your videos are interesting! But I don't really know if I understand the cognitive functions better now that I've been watching them or if I'm actually more confused... I'm trying to understand IxxJ/ExxP vs IxxP/ExxJ but I don't really get it when you say "freaking out about self and tribe" or about "chaos and control". If you're freaking out because the five kids you're looking after are not behaving properly or are being disrespectful, are you freaking out about control or people ? (I'd say control but I'm not sure). And if you're freaking out about who you are and what's your purpose in this world because you can't cook properly like everyone else, are you freaking out about self or chaos ? And if someone never freaks out... ? Plus, I have a lot of family members that freaks out about people and control/chaos so I'm not sure how to go from there...

[@nachiketpargaonkar8646]

From what I've observed around me & in my own thoughts & words, I guess the 'freak out' usually comes out as angry burst or a negative, "demon" comment. For example, if I were to look back at my own words when I'm angry, they're mostly "why is the society stupid?", "Why are people so careless?", "Why is society as a collective, dumb?" & So on. I guess this is the 'me vs the world' idea & this would bother the IxxPs more than the others. I'm not sure if I'm Ti-Fe or Fi-Te (probably the former) but my negative feelings are towards "people" being bad/wrong/lazy/arrogant whatever. Maybe the ExxPs & IxxJs have negative thoughts about information, ExxPs being resistant towards organising the known & IxxJs being resistant towards gathering more before refining the already known.

[@huntersonnier7815]

Me and my bother are onsite.

[@jordansage9655]

1:47 ENFJ

[@burningsodium]

I really don't understand this idea of self-tribal 'imbalance.' Either it's not that good of a model, or you're just not explaining it very well.

[@nachiketpargaonkar8646]

@@hardflip8 I second this! I'm an IxxP (not really sure of the full type, most likely INTP) & I get annoyed mostly because the society, the tribe does something wrong (at least wrong according to me) be it being prematurely judging someone/something, liking brands just for the sake of it & not really having any personal experience, having 'who cares' attitude...in a way not having their own individual opinions & just 'following what others have been doing/said'.

[@treblestrings6263]

No. It's the third option. You just don't get it.

[@HelenThomasCreativeHealer]

PLEASE could you talk more slowly! My brain hurts trying to keep up.