J-10 Firebird Vs F-15E Strike Eagle | CLASH OVER THE PACIFIC | Digital Combat Simulator | DCS |

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

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[@timothylopez8572]

🙋Why can't F35's or F22's be equipped with a autopilot computer capable of tracking and intercepting BVR missiles with their Vulcan cannons....... similar to Phalanx AA on a Navy vessel? It would be inbound on a straight trajectory and would save counter measures for after range is closed for a dog fight.

[@timothylopez8572]

🙋Why can't F35's or F22's be equipped with a autopilot computer capable of tracking and intercepting BVR missiles with their Vulcan cannons....... similar to Phalanx AA on a Navy vessel? It would be inbound on a straight trajectory and would save counter measures for after range is closed for a dog fight.

[@phantomwarlord3664]

W debreif

[@coreysmithson4002]

Nothing like cracking open a beer, watching one of your videos, and considering the geopolitical consequences of these encounters. Love the channel!

[@tonyphan3289]

I'm doing the exact same thing.😅

[@nobeltnium]

same, but with coffe instead.

[@randomka-52alligatorthatis34]

Me in SEA: Hmmmmm, Interesting.

[@CJFreeza]

That landing under the sun set was absolutely picture perfect

[@ThunderSims]

Your face is picture perfect

[@talha6852]

​@@ThunderSimsyou are perfect.

[@brandnewdan]

I do love how much tension is created over water here, IE no terrain masking etc.....makes for a VERY exciting video!

[@nomar5spaulding]

I know this isn't much of a brag here, but I'm super proud of myself for this so yeah. Over this 4 day weekend I got from work, I've spent a bunch of time messing around in DCS. Been just doing some pretty basic air to air stuff, and doing those air to air training missions that GS made a while back. I managed to win the 2 vs 1 fight for the first time today AND make it back and land without crashing. To be fair, if anyone ever landed as poorly as i landed there, it would probably get you kicked out of the USAF, and I got extremely lucky to survive the battle (I was doing a couple smart things that probably didn't hurt either, but holy luck) and I think I was frankly even more lucky to have actually killed the last enemy with my final shot. It wasn't pretty, but I survived to fly another day.

[@mk6315]

That’s a milestone and don’t let anyone tell you different, keep practicing until you can post videos of your crazy stunts 👍

[@ecoop20]

Got a link for the training missions? I've been dabbling a little more of late too and would love to have some training missions to practice

[@grievesy83]

Nah man, it’s a legit brag to win a 2v1 engagement when you’re the 1. 🙌

[@maverickmissile801]

Nice dude

[@joaomendes1030]

Any landing you walk away from is a good landing. ;)

[@highbornjase2412]

I mean you can see why the F15 is still being used and modernised with the EX variant it is just a beast of a plane.

[@krismurphy7711]

I would prefer flying the stealth planes if it was a long range escort or incursion, but in a flat out dogfight against other non-stealth....I'd take the EX and all its missiles.

[@avgeek_d00d86]

Yes, but the f-15EX has a different task than the f-15C or f-15E. The f-15EX is baisically a missile truck, it's purpose is to carry a ton of AMRAAMs, so it's not an air superiority platform (today as we speak this function has been taken by the f-22 and f-35). In conclusion, the f-15EX is a really important plane, but not for the same reason as the first f-15s.

[@watwat9864]

So is the J10, he's fighting J10 Alpha, when the Charlie variants already exist. And PL15 would've not missed within 50 miles, that is just not possible.

[@krismurphy7711]

@@watwat9864 I too was amazed the PL15s missed...just by notching

[@twixxtro]

chonky su-27

[@rnash999]

The large black shark torpedo has a 350 lb warhead. A 2000 pound paveway detonated from the inside of the sub would do slightly more damage.

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

You’re gonna have to take that up with ED lol.

[@eric97909]

The 2000 pound pave way detonating inside the sub would definitely cause a significant emotional event amongst the crew

[@llamalamb6741]

@@eric97909sounds like it could hurt somebody 🙀

[@spackle9999]

Two jagged ends of tin can, if they're lucky.

[@zTheBigFishz]

Roger that, the sub would have been cut in two...at least. 2000lb bombs are huge ~15ft long.

[@0pyourk0]

very well explained. I'm an engineering student and have no DCS exprience, and I can totally understand this.

[@spartan7071]

I know you’ve gone over all that before in TacView but it’s still really interesting seeing the breakdown of the engagement. Great video.

[@thatoneguy5512]

My man explained everything so well I feel like I'm ready to get into one of those things with out any experience and fight some enemies.

[@Lee-sti8wrx]

Love the explanations dude, your a really good teacher. I enjoy having you explain the tacview debrief. Really cool videos man. Gotta say the J10 looks really nice, great looking fighter. Would be good if you could do a video using one to see the potential of the jet. Just a thought. Thanks again for the cool videos man. Look forward to my daily dose of fighter school.

[@arkadious9320]

When the AIM-260 goes operational later this year the F-15 is going to be a very scary long range missile truck . .

[@miletello1]

Is it coming out this year?!

[@traviswalker8933]

Took them long enough to make a long range Fox-3 missile.

[@spackle9999]

@@traviswalker8933 Politically, it just made more sense to make the 5th gen plane first so politicians wouldn't cut funding saying "We don't need 5th gen planes because our missiles are so good"

[@traviswalker8933]

@@spackle9999 as seen by the challenges faced by the 5th gen program, I don't think it was a smart move on their part. Especially considering the fact that these planes have not been used in any actual combat situations for the most part and the majority of aerial combat is still being fought by 4th gen fighter jets. Not having a long range Fox-3 puts the USAF fighters at a risk especially when facing Russian fighters.

[@Viviana088]

​@@traviswalker8933facing what? 15 SU-57s and a barrel of fish that cant see F-35s and 22s until it's too late? Even china has to deal with almost +1000 F-35s combined across NATO and armed with various different weapon systems. But yeah I guess we are behind and fucked 😂 meanwhile china and Russia are trying to play catch up at the cost of their country and economy. While various countries in NATO are developing 6th gen.

[@heathb4319]

Dude...your calmness in this vid is almost ASMR for me. Learning and relaxing at the same time.

[@rangerrick8220]

Like the detailed explanations in TacView! Thanks!

[@miletello1]

His tacviews have VASTLY expanded my knowledge over the last few yrs.

[@LeonAust]

That explanation at the end was perfect for the layman. Well done

[@dan725]

Loved how you explained the gimbal mechanism. great job explaining it!

[@belikumari6893]

Whenever y put that tac debrief, i found it always interesting to watch , it's like a gud professor teaching the basic of aerial fight in (Flight training program) glad y explain in 2 simple❤❤👍👍 gud job GS.

[@WilliamJones-ru9xd]

GS, Great explanation of the MAR, Notching, and Beam.

[@Rogueplayz-co1zg]

Amazing video! I absolutely loved the debrief and explanation of movements, even learning the meaning of MAR. Much appreciated!

[@DaRealKat14]

I'm new to DCS and sims in general. The explanation in the tacview was great and I learned alot!

[@turtuhl]

I like the debrief. Its really helpful to put it in context.

[@ecoop20]

Awesome mix of air and ground attack. You're content is always top notch! Would love to see you do ground attack in an Su-25. With the current state of world affairs, it seems relevant. Not sure I've ever seen you do that before. If so I missed it.

[@Neb8109]

Can you do a j10 vs eurofighter dogfight i would really like to see a figth between these aircraft

[@bridgecross]

Methinks a Chinese submarine stalled 50 yards from the US shoreline is too big a prize to just blow up.

[@HarimauBergaring]

5 mins to explain what you did in 2 seconds amazing how the mind works!! 16:12

[@McDonnell_F-15C_Eagle]

3:43 = !F15! melody

[@mikeb.3918]

Great explanation of the process of engagement and defense. MAR, notch, beam. Learning something new every day.

[@serpentissanguis978]

That one was very interesting, thank you so much.

[@w0mblemania]

Excellent explanation for us visual folks! More like this please.

[@chichiohaebosim8386]

Iceman. Technically superior in his tactics. Just wow. Makes sense why you defeat everyone. Kudos Growling!!!

[@m.searay4629]

Awesome imagery. Love the shot of the Paveway III impact! You have made the F-15E my new favorite all utility aircraft....very diverse.

[@FighterOperationsGroupFOG]

I wonder if fighter schools use your videos for training, the quality is unmatched.

[@freddiealmeida]

I always visualize this... when the F15 drops those tanks... its gloves off...

[@GM-fh5jp]

hey @ GS...a quick question: How much "jitter (in degrees) either side of the notch would expose the aircraft to being registered by doppler shift? I imagine without "auto beam defense" it must be hard to hold a perfect notch, especially if manoeuvering around terrain etc?

[@GM-fh5jp]

The Tac View radar profile, gimbals and so forth was excellent. Your pithy and succinct way of explanation is really commendable. No wonder so many of us folllow you. Very well done.

[@astonmartinzz]

A beautiful and concise explanation to the vids you did years ago on Beam and Notch. Such a pleasure to watch and refresh and keep the learning up in a modern setting. GOATED @GrowlingSidewinder

[@peteris1486]

That Tacview debrief was absolutely great, I would love to listen to those 35 minutes you mentioned you wouldn't want to talk about. :D

[@pillyphilly6973]

Amazing video, always makes me really happy to see one of your videos on my notifications. Youre actually the only youtuber i have notifs turned on for

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

I appreciate that thank you very much.

[@rdak4943]

very cool discussion of how the mar and the defending works,,

[@morso1]

I have to admitt, the J10 is one of the most desired RED aircraft I would love to see in DCS after a modern SU 27 / 30 version with modern avionics....

[@briandp2023]

Pilot's perfect career mission.

[@michaelgubitz5950]

Wonderful video, very educational and entertaining, thank you! One thing I am still curious about is where can I find out about the MAR of lets say AMRAAMs at different altitutes.

[@aceblaneescabusa5371]

Educational video you made about BVR tactics. 33rd time to suggest a BVR/Dogfight scenario between a MiG-29 against an Su-57 Felon because you're very skilled in aerial combat and making assumptions of long range missiles. Dare to try! Impress us!

[@nicholaspoplavskyy7945]

Great TacView explanations I really enjoyed it

[@emmy8517]

epic video, i liked how the strike eagle was striking

[@smac2862]

Excellent landing! Good flare.

[@555banzai]

love the after-action breakdowns, would love to see more of those

[@Sarruji]

Great GS... You just created a nuclear disater.

[@markepps2404]

Really appreciate the instruction/info on how to defeat a missile. Much appreciated. M

[@thebarstoolprophet]

Fantastic landing, looked great

[@charlesrichardson8635]

I love your talks at the end in the Tac View.

[@anantgautam2485]

Professor GS thank you for the insights. Even tough I don't have a computer to play this game,I just love your bm videos.

[@ivanandriyanov4426]

This explanation is perfect.

[@rayriver4325]

its odd to see j10 operate here, do we have J15T and J16 mods in dcs?

[@wren7195]

Is it just me or does this one look exceptionally good?

[@-Hesco]

the explanation of the beam and the notch concepts were perfect.

[@chris08091]

Always so cool to see you play in the pacific

[@madman3826]

Thank you for the explanation, it is just as interesting learning about the tactics as it to watch the fights imo.

[@radioactive9861]

Once again...Another EXCELLENT video by GS! Love your videos, GS!

[@MrMorton]

Thanks! I really appreciated your tactical lesson!

[@Sallowpad]

Subscribed for awhile and love the content! Would spice things up if unscheduled things happened. Say the sub launched an slbm while the f15e is on approach and you have to target that. Or you're doing F22 vs Su57 and suddenly additional radar contacts. 0.o

[@AlanTheBest97]

Hi could you make a video "experiment" with other players? I would love to see a controlled scenario where you test the advantages of not diving to the deck to evade the missiles vs where you do your normal tactics. It would seem to me that if you are fast it would be more advantagious for you to keep your altitude and instead because when you close you would have the altitude advantage and enemy missiles would have to fight gravity to get up to you while your missiles wouldnt... What you think bleeds more energy? The fight against gravity or the increased drag on the deck?

[@mysticbaconguy]

I love these videos please keep Em coming!!! The f15 is an amazing aircraft.

[@CivisMilitarum]

"...because the Eagle is saying I can." Love it ❤

[@yanbo2u]

GS should be hired by Airforce as a tactical instructor.

[@icaleinns6233]

Thanks for showing the landing!!!

[@davedeville6540]

What western jet is a good comparison to the J-10. The Viggen, Gripen, Mirage, F-4, F-16?

[@SpiderWuss69420]

When the "Firebird" meets the "FREE BIRD".

[@Fletrasen]

Thank you so much for that, from a newbie 👍

[@horusfalcon]

It's odd that the submarine did not try to dive. Was it on the surface because it was in distress? If so, the opportunity should have been taken to capture it instead of destroying it, since it was in US Territorial Waters (i.e., Guam).

[@Plane_pancake]

Love your videos keep up the work

[@chrisjohnston8468]

Your videos are awesome! And always informative!!! Keep it up!

[@eric97909]

Awesome video, wish the sun had a more impressive explosion but it is what it is

[@Nikto_mlk]

Bro just turned the video into a physics lesson 💀

[@b.chuchlucious5471]

Hopefully the sub crew found the rum stash on the beach to keep them occupied for a while.

[@henrymann8122]

You get a Fox 3!! you get a Fox 3!! You all get a Fox 3!!!!

[@zali9657]

Submermine is controlled by a Controller 😂

[@Nathan-vt1jz]

Loved the breakdown at the end.

[@maitreytelang2312]

Hey GS, what type of lock were you holding both the J-10Cs in? TWS or STT or something else?

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

a high data track (tws mode)

[@maitreytelang2312]

@@GrowlingSidewinder Thanks

[@netsimam]

Rafale vs J-10C?

[@acasualviewer5861]

How do you figure out the notch angle? How do you know your angle is correct?

[@thatoneguy1741]

Would love to see you fly more Chinese aircraft

[@benoderchris7944]

only question i have is: when i am notching or tryinig to hit the beam, do i have to hit the 90* degrees relativ to the airplane radar or to the missiles?

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

when the missile is being guided by the aircrafts radar, you notch or beam the aircraft. When the missile is pitbull you notch or beam the missile.

[@dehoihoiman2107]

Very interesting mission. Love it.

[@NordicRest]

Question regarding double-tapping: a missile with a given range and conditions to target has a certain PK. However, this isn't a roll of the dice, it's an estimation of the missile's capability vs. the target's capability. Aren't the conditions similar enough for both missiles in a double-tap that the increase in overall PK will be negligible relative to the doubling of missile expenditure?

[@msytdc1577]

One was radar homing, the other heat-seeking, so if one sensor type was fooled the other one's tech might not be.

[@Mike_Romeo]

​@@msytdc1577 Your wrong. Gs only carried Aim-120C5 missiles and there is no heat seeking variant of it.

[@shelby2561]

I have a video request. F-35 vs J-20 let's be honest we all want to see you in the F-35

[@lobstereleven4610]

**geopolitical incident intensifies** LOL

[@frogfoot1653]

This is just theoritically .. lets we see in the real battle soon .. hope soon . 🎉

[@Capgains7777]

Did the very last missile that was fired at you fall into the water because you notched again, or because the J-10 that fired it had been destroyed? Reminded me of the final fight scene in Mavrick when the Su-57 releases the missile only a second before he is destroyed by Hangman's missile (who was somehow able to be undetected). I guess I was wondering if there was some fire and forget technology or if that remaining missile coming at you needed to be guided still? Great explaination in the debrief. Love your 2 moron vids as well.

[@ryantrahan2240]

love seeing the Tacview

[@Bahnfanatiker]

finally a tacview again :)

[@davidmartin9758]

So notching is getting to a 90 Deg angle from the incoming missile or radar with the radars getting confused with ground clutter and beam is being below with the ability of radar to see, needs chaff to defeat the missile? Where is the best place to study these tactics for DCS?

[@abbaerfani9007]

Good job by you GS but I have questions about that nuclear reactor in UB that you nuke out what's going to happen after that

[@stevenl7878]

Great explanation in the AAR.

[@ConnieShearer-m1v]

Great mission! Good ol' F-15!

[@AMG-316]

Can you imagine the awards and promotion for a fighter pilot single handedly downing 2 Chinese bogies and then sinking a Chinese Submarine for good measure... completing the original mission! Jeez! You'd never have to pay for your own drinks again! I mean if this was a real mission! 😮❤😂

[@Acestes.]

20 Minute video? I'm here for it.

[@711Arigna]

Great information and thank you!

[@Ecobomb]

I always cant help but wonder how educational your content is for fledgling aviators in small under-funded Air Forces. Are these concepts so well known already or are there some 3rd world pilots getting a huge boost by watching this? lol probably not significant anyway just makes me think. :)

[@cursedchapter3746]

This idea is real

[@krismurphy7711]

DCS is used by air forces around the World....from what I've read. Systems training. But I don't see any evidence that REAL fighter pilots are flying against novices incognito here......anyone see them???

[@jordancourse5102]

Why doesn't the F15C and E have a HMD?

[@Mike_Romeo]

In dcs we have a older F-15C that doesnt have it and a HMD is planned for later for the F-15E.

[@jordancourse5102]

@@Mike_Romeo ohh ok didnt know that thanks

[@davidhendricks8699]

Like to see F - 15 EX .😊