J.S. Bach - Cantata BWV 12 "Weinen, Klagen, Sorgen, Zagen" (J.S. Bach Foundation)

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From the protestant church Teufen in Switzerland
Choir and Orchestra of the J. S. Bach Foundation
Rudolf Lutz - conductor & harpsichord
Soloists
Margot Oitzinger - alto
Bernhard Berchtold - tenor
Wolf Matthias Friedrich - bass
Johann Sebastian Bach - Cantata BWV 12 "Weinen, Klagen, Sorgen, Zagen" (Weeping, lamenting, worrying, fearing)
00:00 Concert on 19.04.2013
00:30 Sinfonia
03:05 Chorus: Weinen, Klagen
10:13 Recitative (alto): Wir müssen durch viel Trübsal
11:00 Aria (alto): Kreuz und Kronen sind verbunden
17:06 Aria (bass): Ich folge Christo nach
19.22 Aria (tenor): Sei getreu, alle Pein
23:48 Chorale: Was Gott tut, das ist wohlgetan
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[@davidswan3071]

What an accomplished oboist. Such sublime beauty.

[@ricklarsen852]

Same with the trumpet player. Beautiful control and musicianship.

[@Chunkfterbi7183]

Uncompromising and homogeneous precision of choir in dynamics (Angst und Not, Angst und Not), text work, listening and ornamentation (not only, but prominently Soprano). Miraculously subtle and blossoming crescendi and resolving decrescendi and transfer from one voice to the next ( in what I’m tempted to call Crucifixus). Great soloist work of all three of them (the mild, floating blend of trumpet and tenor). And then the string section is just a dream , such transparency and such a groove (bass aria), and again a stunning listening capacity. This performance is all about breathing music arising from perfect mastery of all aspects, carefully elaborated and performed with max attention. And not to forget: the visual recording is perfectly directed, the camera perspectives revealing how much the musicians in the orchestra but also in choir look at each other as well as to the conductor who in reverse sculptures the performance most subtly. Lutz keeps upping the the ante. Bravi, bravi!

[@klausfleck6855]

Herr Lutz macht Bach lebendig. Bach wäre stolz auf ihn!

[@adolflazary5864]

Se llama luz claaro

[@arthursoghoyan3471]

AMAZING PERFORMANCE !!!! GOD BLESS YOU ALL !!! Perhaps the best performance of Aria : Sei getreu, alle Pein. Thanks, Thanks, Thanks.

[@alfredrossler5929]

Bwv 34

[@pianodoir]

Sei getreu, alle Pein 19:22

[@michaelpinker7618]

Bernhard Berchthold's voice in the tenor aria is so sweet, so true, I could listen to this aria for hours on end....

[@pianodoir]

Sei getreu, alle Pein 19:22

[@bernd-hartmutbeuter5584]

Wunderschön! Vielen Dank an die J.S. Bachstiftung, dass sie diese unvergleichlich schöne Musik am Leben erhält.

[@thelilia54]

Zum Weinen schön! Herrliche Musik von grösster artistischer Qualität: Danke!

[@user-pk8dk5wq7p]

Je trouve la musique de cette Cantate écrite d'une manière trop complexe , en comparaison d'oeuvres postérieures, plus faciles à écouter et non moins belles. De toute façon cette musique , splendidement interprétée, mérite amplement d'être jouée et partagée. Grand merci à la Bach Foundation pour toutes ces oeuvres partagées gratuitement sur KZbin !

[@variflex9991]

C'est pas trop complexe, tout le contraire, simple et esentielle.

[@joshsussman9432]

Another spark of genius from the Bach workbench.

[@luizalbuquerque5099]

One of the best performances of the serie. My new favorite for this particular Cantata. The aria Kreuze und Krone sind verbunden gains a new dimension.

[@peterwatchorn411]

One of the most extraordinary in a series that is in itself extraordinary. Exquisite.

[@timotheuspeter734]

Very great! I often think that Bach would be astounded by the quality of performances & recordings like this..

[@PM.68]

Oh he definitely would! He wasn´t afraid of change and progress.

[@deekobald9260]

Wow the tenor was amazing! Thanks for the upload!

[@johannesbrahmsfan9228]

This must be the best version of this cantata available to listen to! Choir, soloists, musicians and director Lutz; all are at top notch here. Thanks to God!

[@leonardoiglesias2394]

You mean it is better than Suzukis? In what sense?

[@aliasreco]

@@leonardoiglesias2394 Thanks to Suzuki - I can listen to all of them. But the echo I like less. Suzuki makes it emotional. But Lutz too. Different but sometimes personally I prefer one above the other. (And I sang in a choir like this - so it reminds me of my young days...)

[@francoisbloch7772]

Comme toujours Margot Oitzinger très professionnelle, émouvante, puissante, délicate.

[@p.maillard1544]

Interprétation très chrétienne des cantates de bach , un grand merci .

[@larrybrandes304]

Wonderful, exquisite. My favorite part starts at 29 seconds and ends at 24:33. I listened four times in a row and it is still my favorite part.

[@ewestner]

My favorite part too!

[@ef416]

😆

[@stufarnham]

Lovely performance throughout. Kudos to the oboist in the sinfonia, the trumpeter in the tenor aria, and to the soloists. This rendering captured the grace, the sorrow,and the hope of the text magnificently. Wonderful job by all. Thank you.

[@valtergilenardi2639]

Quando ascolto Bach entro in contatto con la parte migliore del mio Cuore...Bach è Divino Saluti da Lecce 👋 😎🤗🌌🙏❤

[@bernhildhohmuth5189]

Bach verkündet mit seiner. wunderbaren Musik das Evangelium und ist darum der 5. Evangelist

[@bernhildhohmuth5189]

und ganz lieben Dank an alle künstler der Bachstiftung und Herrn Rudolf Lutz.

[@StrammerBursche]

Es hat mich zu Tränen gerührt vielen Dank!

[@Yusuf-the-wanderer]

A piece of art. Feeds my soul. Rest in peace Mr. Bach.

[@user-sm9ik8yh7g]

Это невообразимо небесная, неземная музыка, Бах - точно её подслушал у Бога! Такая скорбная и красивая музыка!!!✝️🏛️🎹🎻👏

[@carlospita8935]

ein brillanter Mann setzte sein Talent ein, um den heiligen Namen Gottes zu verherrlichen.

[@freegracetruthembrace7188]

Thank you Jesus . Your glory alone is magnified . Your certain Guarantee of unending life (John 3:16) is the unmerited gift that delights unto the uttermost . It is in this spirit that this transcendent music resonates .

[@jorgeurzuaurzua4011]

A lovely equilibrium between singers and instruments. The chors are just perfect. An impressive and serioues rendering of this work of art

[@marcbaumann-organiste9514]

Remarquable, constant, inspiré, tout est fait ici pour servir JS BACH. Quel bonheur! Superbe.

[@carolynclark1724]

Beautiful performance! Really enjoyed the tenor aria with the trumpet.

[@albrechtkling4213]

17:06. aria basso Ich folge Christo nach 19:22. choralbearbeitung tenore Sei getreu - Jesu meine Freude TROMPETE 23:48. choral Was Gott tut das ist wohlgetan TROMPETE

[@govertteijgeler9244]

Wat een voorrecht om deze Bach Cantates te kunnen volgen via het internet. Ook deze top-uitvoering heeft mij weer tot tranen toe bewogen. Schitterende dynamiek en fantastische inleving in de tekst, gecombineerd met een loepzuiver orkest, waarin de Spielfreude in de beelden mede een geweldige rol spelen. Hartelijk dank !!!!!

[@rjwusher]

Hier sluit ik mij van harte bij aan! Grote dank aan de Bachstiftung voor deze wonderschone uitvoeringen.

[@zigosepalum5641]

Le choeur d'entrée nous plonge d'emblée dans l'univers fascinant de cette cantate, très belle interprétation.

[@katringiordanengo7665]

Tiefgreifende Musik! Tiefgreifend musiziert! Herzlichen Dank!

[@legato6999]

The beginning sounds like "Crucifixus" from the Mass in B minor. Still lovely.

[@ronwalker4849]

The beginning sounds only like tears flowing down ones´s face in it´s own inimitable way.

[@joaobarbosa6262]

Dear Mr. Legato: No wonder, Mr. Legato. The Crucifixus is an arrangement of this same choir. By the way, many movements of the Mass are arrangements, in which Bach always changes some things, always for the better. As to Mr Parker, I don't know about his inimitable tears; what I know is that he doesn't know the mass as well as you, Mr. Legato. Congratulations.

[@timotheuspeter734]

@@joaobarbosa6262 good comment! I think, however, it is possible to both know of Bach‘s self-parody and cry to his music.

[@soundscript33]

Magically! Thanks for this music!

[@fritsvanderblom8881]

Briljant! A masterpiece on it's best! Thanks 💕

[@mrroneill99]

Very special! Bravo Bach! Thanks for uploading. ❤️👼🎼🎵🎶👏☘️🇮🇪

[@yuichibencoolenhrs5527]

(Comment from Japan, Kamakura) It is beautiful. Soprano voices are clearly recorded than other ones. I love this video. Thank you for sharing the beautiful piece.

[@ronwalker4849]

Nº.2 is a musical interpration of weeping and crying. There is always lots of that in all Christian art work through the centuries. Rachael dry your tears.

[@mauropalerma4977]

Grazie infinite, momento estatico di alta qualità . Siete fantastici.

[@ollehedstrom3536]

Wonderful cantata!

[@manuelagiasi4306]

Che bellezza, che bravura. Una meraviglia. Grazie.

[@vaniapedronetto4894]

Che bella esecuzione! Margot, sei sempre più brava!!!

[@thevoiceofhumanitynetwork72]

the sixth section is one of the pinnacles of human music.

[@michaeldiakakis4581]

OUTSTANDING!

[@steveistheman84]

thank you Bachstiftung! lutz and herreweghe are the two best bach conductors. the slower tempo makes it way more brutal. heaviest music out there!

[@josemariacuedejuana813]

Extraordinary!

[@dieterpeszat2105]

Neben Komposition und Aufführung begeistern mich immer wieder die guten zusammengestellten Videoaufnahmen.

[@a.luisf.prieto4880]

Sensacional Cantata del más Grande. La Sinfonía de la introducción y el Aria final antes del coro te pone los pelos de punta. Maravilla.

[@cristinabergamini6475]

tutto perfetto musicisti solisti coro magistrali un momento di estasi mille grazie

[@jameshaney171]

I am waiting for the action to begin, the oboe wind solo is calming but not the way to open, as it calms too much. The Chorus is where the magic happens, I am feeling heaven. I am feeling peace, I can fold my hands and rest.

[@mariod7473]

absolutely airy and lovely, I also appreciate a woman alto as opposed to a man.Bravo maestro et all.

[@carlostellogonzales1174]

me quede sin manos de tanto aplaudir

[@tomasmarz6713]

Das war einfach herrlich! Danke 🙂

[@Bakho.N]

Bravo à toutes et tous

[@CaptJackAubreyOfTheRoyalNavy]

3:06 - This chorus is another version of the Crucifixus chorus from the Mass in B minor. I knew I had heard this before!

[@flemmingranch8777]

Rigtig dejlig og melodisk musik og flot korsang.....

[@MarkusSaurer]

Grandios!

[@Violinlesson-Venice]

Bravissimi!

[@josehenriquez7610]

Sin palabras....

[@manualonso7]

How beautiful is that 18:18- 19:00

[@francescacompagnone2903]

Note musicali come lacrime che rigano le guance

[@uabpsab]

As usual, fantastic! Where does he find all these musicians and singers? Schola Cantorum? Sad to see so few young people in the audience tho.

[@ricklarsen852]

The younger people here seem to only to be members of the Bachstiftung. All I could see in the audience unfortunately was a lot of gray hair. Today's young people are really missing out on these quality performances

[@electricalychalanged4911]

There are not many young people in the church anymore and to appreciate this music you need to learn it. Not many people do anymore. So no wonder. But this is the type of shut up an listen music that is not revant for you people anyway.

[@johanneskolbneuhaus3664]

welch ein schoener Klang wuerde ich sagen und hoere ebenfalls den in der h moll Messe auf lateinisch gesungenen zweiten Satz, vielen Dank !

[@GaborDrSeres]

Ebéd utáni csendes emésztéshez jót tesz Bach...

[@pascalpatrick3009]

Thanks for hearing a woman as alto and not a man😀

[@franciscoespinozagamboa6490]

...absolutamente de acuerdo, alto mujer es lo natural

[@michellemalaise1816]

Très beau ensemble et harmonie des choeurs... Pour une fois les sopranes n écrasent pas les autres voix

[@sunayaras5360]

👼😇👼

[@harounsherzad8475]

My favorite. Thanks

[@davidlai1996]

Beautiful performance!!! However, there's one thing I don't understand. The cantata is performed a whole tone too high. The opening 2 movements are in F minor, but this recording played it in G minor. I wonder why this change / difference? Thanks for your explanation!

[@karstensturm4198]

Jost Ammon: Es ist eine sehr sanfte Darbietung. Das kann ich auf englisch nicht so gut schreiben. In der Langsamkeit liegt die Hingabe, die Bach ausdrücken wollte.

[@franciscoespinozagamboa6490]

¿Por que no se menciona como solista a la brillante y destacada oboísta ?

[@franciscoespinozagamboa6490]

...es oboÍsta de diferentes conjuntos.-tiene un destacado rol como intérprete en importantes arias, sobre todo en obras de JS Bach

[@franciscoespinozagamboa6490]

Katharina Arfken

[@woodmanpierre9742]

6:58 DE FINOM !

[@hongkyulee8775]

칸타타 12 흐느낌, 슬픔, 걱정, 두려움 (Korean translation) Jubilate (부활절 후 세 번째 일요일) 잘로몬 프랑크의 시(1) 바이마르에서 1714년 4월 22일, 라이프찌히에서 1724년 4월 30일 연주 3. 사도행전 14장 22절 6. Johann Cruger's chorale melody for "Jesu, meine Freude" by Johann Franck, 1650 7. Samuel Rodigast, final verse of "Was Gott tut, das ist wohlgetan," 1674 1. Sinfonia 2. Chorus (S, A, T, B) 흐느낌, 슬픔 걱정, 두려움, 열망과 억압은 그리스도인들의 눈물의 빵들입니다. 주님의 형상을 가진 그리스도인들의... 3. Recit. [Dictum] (A) 많은 슬픔들을 통해 우리는 하나님의 왕국에 들어가야 합니다. 4. Aria (A) 십자가와 면류관이 함께 있습니다. 갈등과 보석이 결합되었습니다. 그리스도인은 항상 가지고 있습니다. 그들의 고통과 적들을... 그러나 그리스도의 상처가 그들의 위안이 됩니다. 5. Aria (B) 저는 그리스도를 따르렵니다. 저는 그분을 놓지 않을 겁니다. 좋을 때나 힘들 때나 삶에서나 죽음에서나..... 저는 그리스도의 모욕에 입맞춥니다. 저는 그의 십자가를 안을 것입니다. 저는 그리스도를 따르렵니다. 저는 그분을 놓지 않을 겁니다. 6. Aria (T) with instr. chorale 믿음을 가지세요 ! 모든 고통은 사소한 것이 될 겁니다. 비 온 뒤에 축복이 꽃 핍니다. 그리고 모든 폭풍은 지나갑니다. 믿음을 가지세요 ! 믿음을 가지세요 ! 7. Chorale (S, A, T, B) 하나님이 하시는 것은 잘되는 일입니다. 저는 (동일하게) 남아있을 것입니다. 비록 저를 험한 길 궁핍, 죽음 그리고 불행으로 몰아가시더라도... 하나님이 저를 완전히 아버지 같이 그의 팔 안에 붙드시기에... 그러므로 저는 그의 통치를 허락합니다. 1. 알프레드 뒤어의 책 263페이지를 보면 프랑크의 시라는 증거가 더 자세히 있다. 2. 이 악장의 개선적인 변형은 탄식의 소리인 ai라는 소리의 반복에 크게 의존하고 있다.

[@edgeplay4205]

I disagree about the "homogeneous precision of choir in dynamics ". The men were great but the women's pp was in fact mp and presented a flat dynamic range compared to the men. This is some of Bach's greatest Michelangelo music. This is the music you play when you are showing images of the Sistine Chapel Ceiling. I am sure JS never heard it performed as well as this, but this would sound utterly different under Stokowski. In the 1 Symphonia lack of cohesion in the violins also prevented us from realizing the true awesomeness of this movement. Rudi and the Foundation have committed 25 years of their lives to this project. 15 years into it we can say this is the best there is. But we also come to realize that there is a whole new level at which this music can be performed that will make this look stilted and jaded. Is Rudi going to reach for that prize ?

[@philipk4475]

We can be grateful to have such music in our time. No doubt there will be future generations which will take what has been presented here and go further, that is the nature of things.

[@sasjavanginkel8281]

Who plays the oboe?

[@Bachstiftung]

Sasja Van Ginkel Hello, it is Katharina Arfken. You can always find all the information on bachipedia.org. Best regards

[@sasjavanginkel8281]

Thank you for your reaction! I think she's very good! I looked at the Bach Stiftung site, but could't find it....

[@sasjavanginkel8281]

On the site bachipedia.org no names from the members of the orchestra unfortunately...

[@Bachstiftung]

@@sasjavanginkel8281 That's not quite correct. We listed them all. Please check this link: www.bachipedia.org/en/works/bwv-12-weinen-klagen-sorgen-zagen/. Best regards

[@sasjavanginkel8281]

Finally found! Thank you very much!!!

[@lapintelaurent7956]

"Nicht Bach, sondern Meer sollte er heißen." 0:30... 777 6:57...

[@lapintelaurent7956]

J'ai gravé l'enregistrement de Junghänel avec le premier pc que j'ai eu en 2004 pour mes trente ans ( vraiment pas un excité de l'informatique, moi !)....des années après, j'ai trouvé l'original pour 1 ou 2 euros.... je viens de les envoyer tous les deux sur CD 380 et CD 780 qui remplacent avantageusement ma TEAC 1250 1bit et ce pour le même prix (45 eur)... Eh bien maintenant je ne peux que constater que le son est identique... à mon oreille ! Superbes, ces petites PHILIPS 16 bits !

[@lapintelaurent7956]

Pour beaucoup de "pros" de la musique, Bach est le plus "grand"... cela m'a toujours fait sourire... Händel, Vivaldi, Haydn, Mozart ou Beethoven sont-ils plus petits ?😁

[@marcogiusti1358]

Una altra cantata "sbilanciata" con la prima parte straordinaria Sinfonia e Coro sono favolosi, non allo stesso livello le tre arie

[@beatjunker1107]

Zu

[@flemmingranch8777]

Her er der ikke grund til gråd og klage. Det er smukt og følsomt både musik og sang.....

[@petershapiro4247]

nice but he doesn't understand the power in the music, so it's a little boring