J.S.Bach :: English Suite n°3 in G Minor, BWV 808 :: Wim Winters, clavichord

[@paulmetdebbie447]

00:10 prelude 05:20 allemamde 10:32 courante 15:19 sarabande 20:04 gavotte I & II 23:40 Gigue Love the sound!

[@alcyonecrucis]

Damn... You just KNOW it's Bach when you get into the Prelude and it's already some MAD counterpoint

[@greenthing99100]

Well, I think that I have probably listened to every single clavichord on KZbin over the last couple of years (I have motor neurone disease and listening to music is something I love doing even more than I used to). You will perhaps be pleased to know that I particularly look out for your recordings because I like the way that your precision and definition suit the instrument. Your renditions are often longer than equivalent harpsichord versions but if you listent to people trying to hustle the clavichord into harpsichord warp speed, it just sounds cluttered and untidy. Your recordings never do that. The other reason that I seek them out is that your clavichord has a particularly sweet tone compared to many others, and also your claavichord is consistently closer to being perfectly in tune than any of the others that I have found. So, there you have it, you are officially my favourite clavichord player and your clavichord is officially my favourite clavichord! Thank you. You have made a significant contribution to my quality of life and I really appreciate it. When I am able, I will explore your website... I just have not had the energy to go there yet, but I will get there eventually.

[@AuthenticSound]

:-)

[@thesenate933]

Every time I watch one of these clavichord videos i seriously contemplate trying to get one myself. You can really feel how some pieces simply were intended to be played on such an instrument rather than the modern piano.

[@written12]

I love your rendition of the prelude. It’s considerably slower than most of the performances I’ve heard, and you play with a detailed clarity I love. I’ve

[@AuthenticSound]

Thank you so much!

[@MartinGallegosMusic]

The gigue is so beautiful! Bravo!!

[@mabel8179]

Thank you Wim- I liked this a lot. I admire your passion for the clavichord and bringing this interesting instrument's sound to more people- so many people haven't even heard of it. I love historical instruments and listening to them being played.

[@AuthenticSound]

Hi Matilda, a perhaps somewhat unexpected reply to this nice quote you were so kind to leave on my channel. The reason is this: I am working on the production of 3 CD's to celebrate my music recording n°100 for Authentic Sound on KZbin. Along with that, will be published an e-book (available in hard copy too), where I very much would like to feature you, with this (and maybe some other) beautiful quotes. Like this, this publication will become something of the entire "community" so to say, something that would be a wonderful and maybe somewhat symbolic achievement of all of us. Without reactions and interactions like yours, I would never have had the energy to come where we are now... So thank you again for being part of this. Please do not hesitate to write me if you prefer not to be featured in the book with this quote. Of course, that would be no problem to me (although I'd like to have it very much :-) ). In case you haven't seen the latest update on this project that should be released December 1, 2016, here is the latest update link: kzbin.info/www/bejne/g3eViZ6Ep6x5ZqM Take care and thank you again! Wim P.S. I would like to excuse me in advance in case you would receive this same message again for another reply on another video... or if you have sent in a personal note for this project. I will connect all of these at the end... but for now, it is so overwhelming to go through all the reactions, that it is impossible for me to remember who I already has asked permission...

[@lordchameleon2650]

That drum bass effect in 23:15 Gavotte part is amazing go on man you ROCK both Bach and you. I wish he still lived.

[@VinnysGuitar]

Been practicing this song so much and your version is the only one that comes close to the one in my head. Plus the OG clavi... Wow nice

[@josephalfano2284]

I in the past only could conceive of the English Suite's being played on the harpsichord. This playing has opened my obviously previously closed mind. Isn't it just sublime. the voices are so clear-the only thing I could say i miss is the power of a double harpsichord on the chord clusters. People ask me how do I know it's Bach after 3 notes, 74 tears listening and many less years of playing. Strength in numbers. I like the head bobbers and toe tappers at Bach concerts.

[@brendanward2991]

Excellent performance. You make these pieces seem so easy.

[@wolkowy1]

That is it! I'm now hooked on this instrument ; and Bach, this particular Suite, this particular clavichord and its builder, and your wonderful performance - all are 'to be blamed' for this 'disaster' (just kidding...;))! In these Korona-days, to hear this is a kind of relief. Your interpretation for the Sarabande is unique (it is heard almost as a Lamento) and most intimate with the piece, the instrument and your own spirit (like the binding between a guitarist and his guitar, playing a personal piece). That is why I suggest, if I may, to take more space of time between the Sarabande and the following Gavotte I (which was heard as if you hesitated a little bit between 2 kinds of tempi, contradicting the Lamento-style), thinking more about its folk-character than its court one, and slowing it just a tiny tiny little little bit. In the Gavotte II there was no hesitation. I know it is very hard to get out of a 'Lamentish' Sarabande and start dancing again, but I'm happy you took this daring choice because it lifted this dance to be a spiritualistic piece by its own. Thank you for the info. and the upload as a whole. I must share it with musicians and music-lovers from my Facebook's friends. Bravissimo!

[@Maestro-FR]

It is so far the most satisfying that I have listened to. Finally I can hear the different voices, their relations to each other, whereas many performers are looking to "phrase", which results in crowding the structures, not to mention the pianists trying to make it sound like a modern orchestra. The right tempo is in my view, that dictated by my internal ears when reading the partitura, not what my finger technique would allow me to do. And still it should be moving not at a unique frequency, but rather with internal waves, like any river does.

[@Clavichordist]

This is another sublime performance! This Suite reminds me of an Italian violin concerto Grosso. One can clearly hear that influence in Bach's writing here and in some of his other keyboard works.

[@AuthenticSound]

Hi John, you are right, the Italian influence was big on Bach as was the French. He genially combined to those styles and mixed that with a German flavor of noble complexity !

[@flat_sound]

Thank you. One of my favourite Bach's keyboard works in best performance. Sarabande is especially beautiful. I would like to hear English suite n.2

[@renaldtremblay8333]

Toujours impeccable et précis! Magnifique Bach au clavicorde. Merci M. Winters.

[@AuthenticSound]

thank you

[@excelsior999]

This is great and extremely interesting, but tell me - Am I a bad person because I like to hear Àndras Schiff play this suite on a piano?

[@classicgameplay10]

No, i like his also.

[@J.A.Seyforth]

Did you say you were Bach's great great great great grandson or... ?! These recordings are insane 🤪😆🥴 so much to learn from in here thank you!!

[@konstantinkrystallis8484]

Your long descriptions and their content in combination with your playing show your true passion and complex spiritual world.Keep up!!

[@AuthenticSound]

+Konstantin Krystallis I do! This year, I'll be working on some writings on historical performance as well, not very academic, but personal. More to come within a few months on this channel. Would love to involve this "community" in that project. Don't know yet how exactly.

[@konstantinkrystallis8484]

+AuthenticSound What do you exactly mean by saying "community"?

[@AuthenticSound]

+Konstantin Krystallis well, the people that gather together around a channel, a subject, ... that kind of thing

[@AuthenticSound]

Hi Konstantin, a perhaps somewhat unexpected reply to this nice quote you were so kind to leave on my channel. The reason is this: I am working on the production of 3 CD's to celebrate my music recording n°100 for Authentic Sound on KZbin. Along with that, will be published an e-book (available in hard copy too), where I very much would like to feature you, with this (and maybe some other) beautiful quotes. Like this, this publication will become something of the entire "community" so to say, something that would be a wonderful and maybe somewhat symbolic achievement of all of us. Without reactions and interactions like yours, I would never have had the energy to come where we are now... So thank you again for being part of this. Please do not hesitate to write me if you prefer not to be featured in the book with this quote. Of course, that would be no problem to me (although I'd like to have it very much :-) ). In case you haven't seen the latest update on this project that should be released December 1, 2016, here is the latest update link: kzbin.info/www/bejne/g3eViZ6Ep6x5ZqM Take care and thank you again! Wim P.S. I would like to excuse me in advance in case you would receive this same message again for another reply on another video... or if you have sent in a personal note for this project. I will connect all of these at the end... but for now, it is so overwhelming to go through all the reactions, that it is impossible for me to remember who I already has asked permission...

[@konstantinkrystallis8484]

Of course,count me in. Feel free to record any of my pieces in the future as well.

[@adrianfundescu5407]

Perfect.

[@adrianfundescu5407]

If I would palay this it be the exact direction in whitch I would go.I have the score somewhere home(that's about 3000 miles) and I played the first part when I was in my 20 s..Allways wanted to get back to it ....and never actually did.Guess i left the good things for later:-))You could play also other very ''simple'' things from Bach ,the small preludes,ETC.They will become great information for those who will look for it.

[@mrknesiah]

Fantastic!

[@douglasdickerson5184]

Great music.

[@FFKpar]

These are making me want to get a clavichord lol

[@SinanAkkoyun]

Me too

[@Alaedious]

Me too!

[@Zephyrus47]

Me too

[@classicgameplay10]

I have a question about the Gigue. Are we supposed to feel the beat as triplets ?

[@potatokitty]

A pluck keyboard instrument? It sounds awesome.

[@saulpiano4158]

Your keyboard work its very interesting, I agree with your video comments about the barroque music, Bach and music from 1700s its music from any keyboard instrument, the question is in the modern piano age, the interpretation is different beacuse the instrument have a more expresive posibilities

[@marblehead_1988]

Great interpretation! Clavichord has very gentle sound. Is there any chance for clavichord version of Goldberg Variations? This is real milestone of keybord music.

[@AuthenticSound]

Just finished with the recording of the Bach Partitas on tape for releason on vinyl later this year. All recording sessions were live and are online now. From March 1st, we are going to work in projects, with a lot of livestreams and google hangouts. The Goldberg are very nice if you have two clavichords for the variations in which you need two manuals! Here is the playlist of the recording of the partitas, kzbin.info/aero/PLackZ_5a6IWWBRN24hqFuAav8CDYABtX1

[@marblehead_1988]

Thank You for an answer! Bach's Partitas are great too. In my opinion they are one of best Bach's keybord music. Unfortunately I am not musician, so my questions may be strange. I'm subscribing Your channel - one of very few precious places on KZbin. This music is beautiful!

[@MS-xp4xm]

Bravissimo! Finalmente sentiamo il tempo autentico di Bach!!!!

[@classicgameplay10]

I think you should revisit this work

[@bruceanderson5538]

Perhaps it is the 'lute'-ness that takes me away from my original anticipation of what I will hear. But I've arrived to AuthenticSound in media res, i.e., regarding the metronome markings, which, I assume are not giving the performer guidance in Bach's case.

[@AuthenticSound]

The clavichord is much related to the lute, certainly in approach, as Bach was a grat lute player and even had two so called 'lautenwercken', basically keyboard instruments with an expressive lute sound. Concerning speed, at the end one makes his/her own decisions, and for this earlier recording, I did not check at all. Czerny is very worthwhile though in my opinion, his MM don't differ too much from Quantz or the French sources.

[@vrixphillips]

that's around the same tempo I play the prelude, but much clearer haha love it :) also your ornaments are PERFECT! wish mine were as good :O [I need to practice....] I'm not sure if it's within your realm of expertise, but could you play Thomas Tallis' two Felix Namques from the Fitzwilliam Virginal Book?

[@ulfgz]

Sublime interpretaton

[@AuthenticSound]

Thank you so much

[@mister-amazing]

I only like clavichords now after hearing this

[@barronhung8246]

21:50

[@alcyonecrucis]

Prelude 0:10

[@SinanAkkoyun]

Love you. Please play "la campanella" 1838 version!

[@bcpa1980]

Does anybody know if there are any complete recordings of the English Suites on clavichord? I haven’t been able to find anything so far, other than this.

[@jackhousman6637]

Dear Wim, any idea why these Suites are called "English"? They seem to follow the French suite form. Beautiful playing, BTW, as always. Very subtle variety of touch.

[@AuthenticSound]

Hi Jack, thanks ! The term English did not come from Bach, but was attributed later, by -if I remember well- Forkel, who writes somewhere that these works were composed for an English nobleman. So in form, the French, English, partitas, are basically the same

[@simonemariesmith1335]

Is this in compound duple or compound quadruple?

[@katherinewilson6539]

i may or may not have increased the playback speed for the courante. You takes it uncommonly slow

[@barbaracross7426]

Could you please let us know what temperments you use for these recordings? I use Weltmeister 2, with Baroque pitch but am interested in other ideas

[@truBador2]

Love this stuff. Great performance. My edition says dotted quarter=84 for the Prelude. Somebody doesn't like Bach. Do I understand that your conversion would be an eighth=120? I tried it at that speed and it wasn't far from your performance. You're a little fast...

[@aaronmann9442]

Kind of sounds like suntar

[@musael22]

Too bad one cannot put more than one tumb up.

[@connorlicharz4074]

Double beat theory is for people who haven’t figured out how to play things a tempo.

[@AuthenticSound]

so basically for the entire humanity...well, that... is true

[@walterbushell7029]

@@AuthenticSound LOL. DB is good for hearing the structure.

[@loveclassical9290]

Speed is mostly wrong: how could the courante being slower than the allemande. First movement is an Italian style concerto, in the opening part, again too slow. You play well, but lacking so much in this basic elements will always put your interpretations in shadow and make you look like too pianistic. Study more the armony of this pieces, listen to Andras Shiff interpretations and correct your execution.