J & S Fluid Motion Diamond Wheel Dresser Setup

[@agg42]

I've used this extensively when I was doing tool and die stuff. It's a pleasure to use but it gets really messy since the hand used to drive the radius is literally under the wheel. Also very easy to grind angles tangent to the radius.

[@daveticehurst4191]

Thanks for your comment and view. Very much appreciated. I have never used it other than in the video. I saw it for sale and thought I would like to own it. Regards from Australia.

[@1pcfred]

I rebuilt a few of those buggers when I worked at J & S Tool. Oddly we never used them ourselves. We had a whole room of them too. We made them up to like 4 feet tall. Imagine standing under one of those.

[@michaelmurray9154]

Hi Dave. I've never seen one of these in real life but it looks very well made (and intricate). I've used the "last word" style extensively, and that's the one I'm most comfortable with. Of course I have the little raddii/angle dresser I did a video on a while back. It gets the job done but not what I would use to make money. Kudos to you on your great camera work and narration. Looking forward to your next video. Cheers, Mike

[@daveticehurst4191]

Thanks Mike, glad to found it interesting. A few more videos to come very soon. Thanks for watching. Regards.

[@MatthewRulla]

Thanks for making this video. I struggled for over an hour today trying to use this tool on my grinder before finally giving up. Tomorrow I'll get it sorted, thanks to your explanation!

[@daveticehurst4191]

Hello Matthew, so glad that I was able to help you out. Thanks for watching. I have the instructions as a .pdf if you would like a copy send me an email. Regards.

[@MatthewRulla]

@@daveticehurst4191 I was able to dress convex and concave profiles of 0.500" and 0.375" today. The J&S tool was quickly and easily setup using your video. Thanks again!

[@daveticehurst4191]

@@MatthewRulla Glad it worked OK for you. In case you did not read my original reply, I do have the instructions as a .pdf if you want a copy please email me. Regards.

[@MatthewRulla]

@@daveticehurst4191 I do have the pdf instructions. Thank you

[@1pcfred]

What we said was that no one really knew how those dressers worked but Henry. I worked at the place that made them. Mostly I made hold down clamps but sometimes I'd work in the dresser department.

[@TheKnacklersWorkshop]

Hello Dave, Another cool bit of kits... I have just setup a save eBay search for one... I am not in hurry as my surface grinder is in bits but you never know I might find a J&S at a good price... Take care. Paul,,

[@daveticehurst4191]

Hi Paul Good hunting. Glad you found it interesting. Regards

[@daveticehurst4191]

Paul, here are some on USA E-bay. www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2553889.m570.l1313&_nkw=J+%26+S+Diamond+Dresser&_sacat=0

[@TrPrecisionMachining]

very good video dave

[@daveticehurst4191]

Glad you found it of interest. I have tried watching your channel, but no English subtitles available. Wanted to watch your Boxford lathe one. Regards.

[@TrPrecisionMachining]

@@daveticehurst4191 Hi Dave, how are you? I hope you're fine. I don't know why KZbin doesn't activate subtitles in English or other languages, I'm sorry.

[@craigsbully]

Hi from America Dave, Brilliant job talking about the A&S Tool Co. Diamond wheel dresser. I am quite good friends with the owners of J&S tool co. They are in Newton New Jersey on Paterson Street now in a wonderful shop. I was very surprised that one of their dressers made it all the way to South Australia! Just found your channel not more than 20 Minutes ago. looks like a great channel if you would like more information about your dresser please let me know and I will see what I can do to get information you require to you. regards, Craig.

[@daveticehurst4191]

Hello Craig, thanks for watching and this excellent message. I purchased it from a Guy in the USA who was closing his shop as he was retiring. I paid $ 200 plus about the same postage. I also got from him the Harig GrindAll No.1 which if you do manage to watch any of my other videos is the one called eccentric milling. The J & S was in mint condition, still with the original instructions and a carry case. I have also downloaded from their website a .pdf version as my original was a bit creased and stained. Thank you for the offer of getting any information. Unless there is anything different than is on their website, I am fine thank you. Regards.

[@1pcfred]

I'm surprised J & S is still in business. That place was on its last legs when I was there over 30 years ago.

[@1pcfred]

@@daveticehurst4191 when those dressers were brand new they were shiny and bright. Yours is in used condition. Now J & S used to offer a service where they'd rebuild the units. But it cost about half as much as a new one did. We'd spiff them up as much as we could but they're weren't quite brand new. The running joke in the shop was only old Henry really knew how those dressers worked. He invented them. He's long dead today too.

[@daveticehurst4191]

@@1pcfred Thanks for that information. Regards

[@1pcfred]

@@daveticehurst4191 seeing an old dresser brought back some memories. It was an interesting time in my life. Strange too. That was a very odd company to work for. The characters I met there were strange birds themselves.

[@Randysshop]

Hi Dave, that is a very interesting tool indeed. I am guessing that you would need it if you need precision angle or radius ground on a shaft.Thanks

[@daveticehurst4191]

Absolutely. Thanks for your comment. Regards.

[@MrFactotum]

Hi Dave Great demo, it look as if its an expensive bit of kit when made back in it's day, or is it modern!!!, thanks for sharing take care Kev

[@daveticehurst4191]

Hi Kev, thanks for the comment. I think that it looks to be early 1970's from the case and the instructions printing. I paid US $ 200 plus another US $ 160 for shipping. That's the trouble with the USA you can buy an item say for $ 5 and it costs you $ 50 for postage, for even just a small jiffy bag. That's why I can not understand the postage from China, you can buy a reasonable quality drill vice for $ 30 weighing a good 5 Kilo and it comes free postage. Will put it away again for ????? who knows. Look after yourself. Regards.

[@MrFactotum]

@@daveticehurst4191 Thanks for the info. it puts in in to perspective, i've always wondered that about postage, especially China, when a component worth a couple of pound comes free post, surely the postage must cost more than that.?????!!! I don't get it!!! but i'm not complaining, the bubble will burst soon!!!! see you next time take care Kev

[@1pcfred]

@@daveticehurst4191 Beyond the materials dressers didn't change. Well the marking did on them. The really old ones were nickel chrome steel. Then they switched over to just cold rolled. I was having a problem grinding a rebuild once and the foremen told me about it. So I sent it to Stanley to grind on the big wet wheel. China has developing nation status. So their shipping gets internationally subsidized. It's a crock. They seem pretty developed now to me.

[@gregbenedict9821]

I have acquired a used knock off version. But I do not have a manual. Would you be willing to share a copy of the PDF? Greg B

[@daveticehurst4191]

Hi Greg, NO problem, send me an email to [e-mail]. Merry Christmas. Regards.

[@billlawton8914]

Hi Dave, I’m from ct USA. How can I dress a 6° angle on the side of the wheel?

[@daveticehurst4191]

Hi Bill, Thanks for the view and your question. Do you own or can borow one of these, or is it a general question ? Are you speaking of a long taper ? Send me an email if you like with a photo or sketch of what you are wanting to do. Generally it is not a good idea to use the side of a wheel for form grinding, althought with a relief you can grind a vertical face say like the jaw of a small vice. Regards, email. [e-mail]

[@pweimer47]

What model is that you have? It’s a really nice tool. They are really pricey to purchase New. Have a great day!

[@daveticehurst4191]

Hello there. No model number stamped on it, but from a specifications list of all models in the box. From their dimensions it looks to be a RFG-50 for use up to a 7 inch wheel J&S 540 size of machine. Regards.

[@pweimer47]

@@daveticehurst4191 That’s what I thought it was. They go for $5k.

[@daveticehurst4191]

@@pweimer47 I paid US $ 200 plus shipping to Australia can't remember but about another US $ 120 plus Australian import tax. Were still a few advertised on E-bay America. Regards.

[@daveticehurst4191]

@@pweimer47 4 on E-bay USA now. 1X $850. 1 X $ 500 and 2 X $ 300 Regards.

[@pweimer47]

@@daveticehurst4191 Thanks, I made an offer on one. We’ll see what happens.