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@thinkingmind26623 жыл бұрын
I think the best thing would be to prepare - New Constitution in Advance so that when the time comes ,it can replace current one Like we can have 10 Models of New Constitutions prepared, we can discuss n debate each one of them.
@VijayKumar-op2tb3 жыл бұрын
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@chanakyagan3 жыл бұрын
In FRANCE In 1959 de Gaulle was inaugurated as the first president of the Fifth Republic. In 1962 de Gaulle pushed through a constitutional amendment that provided for direct popular election of the president, and in 1965 he became the first French president elected by popular vote since 1848.FRENCH have evolved their REPUBLIC from 1 to 5 and now their 5 th is stable so why can'"t we re think this important framework of our institutions .?????? FOR THE sake of tamils who do not knwo hindi, i would suggest you did some subtitling in english
@shivasamb97603 жыл бұрын
Just like it's futile 2 reform a junk throwAway book KURAN, constitution of india must be thrown away and create a new samvidhan of bharat.
@nitinnimkar16543 жыл бұрын
I wish this discussion had been on mainstream media instead of youtube. Congratulation to JD for hosting this much needed discussion.
@vikramrazdan56803 жыл бұрын
As of now, any discussion on Republic 2.0 is a taboo amongst Political parties and Mainstream Media. Once sufficient traction has been achieved, say with twitter trends, debates and dialogues on YT, the two idiots (Politicians and Mainstream Media) will fall in line.
@surendr36453 жыл бұрын
Most of Indian media is owned and controlled at the equity or editorial levels by foreign anti India anti Dharmic forces. The rest are just trying to retain their brainwashed audience or are shy of their nationalism or hinduness.
@piyushsharma75853 жыл бұрын
As per my understanding, this discussion is more important than mainstream media channels. This debate is going to be there forever but media houses changes topic everyday and people will forget about it eventually.
@anshoe5 ай бұрын
Public is the one who makes anything as mainstream media. Let’s bring this discussion in mainstream. No religion can be denominator on any administration. Faith is a personal choice, nothing more🌿🔱🇮🇳🐂🌳
@raghukpathi113 жыл бұрын
I wish Sai Deepak ji writes a book on Republic 2.0 constitution. That book will be the focus point to galvanized Indic Renaissance.
@smoky33023 жыл бұрын
So inestad of secular democratic constitution we are going to have a theocratic constitution.
@ptpavankumar3 жыл бұрын
@@smoky3302 no but rather Dharmic constitution. In loose terms being righteousness. The beauty of Dharmic constitution would be it will evolve with time and set in stone.
@aeroaero54723 жыл бұрын
@@smoky3302 theocracy is a western concept we will have an indigenous system based on dharma
@akhilsharma4133 жыл бұрын
@@smoky3302 rather than a western consciousness Theocratic Constitution, it would be rather indic Conscioussness off Federation Civilisation Constitution.
@Nitin_Chauhan_Here3 жыл бұрын
@@smoky3302 lol kid ! You r too dum' to understand such profound stuff ! Go J.O at some corner.
@ridanghotel3 жыл бұрын
श्री विष्णु जैन द्वारा संविधान पर किया गया समीक्षा बहुत ही तर्कसंगत है और असलियत को उजागर किया है, संविधान सभा में हुई व्याख्यानों के आधार पर आगे की कार्रवाई किया जाना चाहिए।
@soumyadeepghosh33343 жыл бұрын
This is new india where intellectuals are having this type of conversation
@rudra8543 жыл бұрын
This is not enough if we want to restore our civilization
@keithhunt5328 Жыл бұрын
@@rudra854hindus sirf baatein Karte reh jayenge.
@pranzanerjee3 жыл бұрын
Acknowledging Hindu genocide over last 1000 yrs is important as brought by Ajai ji. More power to the youngesters Vishnuji / Sai ji leading forward. Congrats to Sanjai ji for providing the platform
@pranavchaskar3 жыл бұрын
J sai deepak ji is a genius of today's time. His clarity of thoughts and command over English is mesmerizing. I can listen him whole day and not be bored. All four of you are ocean of knowledge 🙏🏼
@satishdas50703 жыл бұрын
Power packed discussion Dharmik / Bhartiya chetna is on rise and this will subsequently make ways for revival on various fronts. Thanks 🙏.
@pannalalprashar38153 жыл бұрын
I must laud sh Sanjay Dixit Ji for selecting This subject , so vital for our very Survival as a Rich and Ancient Civilizations. Parnam to all the Panelists for their valuable views expressed. My salute to all as a War Veteran of two Wars.
@Shortcircuit19793 жыл бұрын
my salute to the all sanatani fighters on the show 🙏🙏
@user-we8gi3xt5b3 жыл бұрын
Every man shud be a sanatani warrior..
@srinivasansundararaghavan84333 жыл бұрын
The Cholas ran a system of stable, just and participative democracy for close to 1000 years. But it was not electoral democracy ! Electoral democracy whips up passions, panders to victimhood narratives and existential threats and mobilises people by religion and jathi. and promotes demographic warfare. It has become politically incorrect to say this as we are colonised to think of western democratic models as superior. The rules of Chola democracy were pointed out to TN Seshan before he took over as CEC by non other than the late Kanchi Seer (stone engravings at Uttiramerur temple near Kanchipuram). It needs a close look, for people thinking of republic 2. Such a system can stay rooted in dharmic values and prevent encroachment by alien values
@abhisheksumanAS3 жыл бұрын
Can you elaborate in more detail?
@gopalramanathan70623 жыл бұрын
An eye opening observation 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼 This is fresh thinking. To tackle the mess that Bharath is in currently, due to over thousand five hundred years of colonial rule and mind control, we need a paradigm shift in thinking if we are to save this Dharmic civilisational society from disintegration 🙏🏼🕉🙏🏼
@factshut96753 жыл бұрын
Can you pls elaborate about 'participative democracy'?And how did cholas practice it?
@naiyayika3 жыл бұрын
Not just Cholas, many provincial civilizational empires in Bhārāt had a similar model. Take Cheras, Kalingas, Ahoms, Marathas, and even the Mauryans for instance. It should be an all encompassing civilizational plan as opposed to just a Chola model. Contrary to chauvinist Tamilians wishes. Peace.
@architjain303 жыл бұрын
@@naiyayika i would rather have a strong system in place rather than an all encompassing but weak khichdi
@AshwinMaloo7910 ай бұрын
Dhanyavad 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
@vimalranka79663 жыл бұрын
Wonderful discussion! Wonderful panel! Wonderful subject! Wonderful solution 👌 Please keep up the good work!!!
@girishpandey36173 жыл бұрын
संजय सर का शानदार👍👍 विशलेषण! चर्चा परिचर्चा कराने के लिए बधाई🙏🇮🇳🙏
@bhavnakaushik65123 жыл бұрын
Delightful to watch jai Sai Deepak. Always. Thanks Sanjay sir
@ritakhanna54323 жыл бұрын
Very ,Very insightful discussion ..All 4 Sanatanis Naman to you all.
@MrYatish1233 жыл бұрын
What a great discussion by 4 of our Gems. Har har mahadev 🙏🙏
@sunilkumarjha56812 жыл бұрын
अत्यंत सारगर्भित चर्चा. बहुत-बहुत साधुवाद.
@suyashpriyadarshi42973 жыл бұрын
Always an insightful discussion. Special thanks to Sai sir for your bold inputs. 🙏
@empressshalini3 жыл бұрын
What a great set of panelists. It was wonderful. And yes this dicourse needs to reach everyone.
@JukeBox-it3lz3 жыл бұрын
Very interesting and introspecting topic. Rep 2.0 must be mulled over and over and the discussions must be kept alive until it leads to reality. Great speakers all three and thanks Sanjay ji
@shrwan477 Жыл бұрын
What a great discussion by all of panelist 👍
@jaggimanish2 жыл бұрын
I respect Sai Deepak ji from the bottom of my heart ❤️ his command over language and his knowledge wisdom are at next level ...I am a big fan sir . Thnx a ton for everything
@niraj20203 жыл бұрын
Very good thought provoking discussion. Expecting more such energetic discussion to save India as a republic 2.0 where cherishing and nurturing Hindu pride is only solution.
@abhisheksumanAS3 жыл бұрын
This background start music & the map are epic!
@yvs09113 жыл бұрын
omg yeah the map is stunning!
@ramkaushik27973 жыл бұрын
Vishnu ji. You. are. Great. Jai. Hind
@nishantqazi3 жыл бұрын
Amazing personalities, vast knowledge and clarity of the subject. It was a bliss to hear you all. Thank you
@Epicikons3 жыл бұрын
You are a product of convert Mr. Qazi.. come back
@johnroe85173 жыл бұрын
Very good session! Thanks everyone!🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
@vidyotamathakur43593 жыл бұрын
Brilliant! Great panelists. Great thought. Great Nation "Bharat".
@jayasreemukerjee89602 жыл бұрын
Well discussed. Jai hind!jayasree mukerjee
@AbhishekKumar-gy1qu3 жыл бұрын
Nice topic and well discussion with all the penalists,, this topic should be arise again and again 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👏👏👏
@mohan40473 жыл бұрын
Wonderful discussions. All the speakers have made very relevant points. I hope this will lead to some stimulating thinking by in the whole country.
@aryansocialworker77353 жыл бұрын
आप सभी महानुभावों को नमन 😀❤️🙏🤩🤍🤗
@piyushsharma75853 жыл бұрын
One of the best debate on the narrative of our nation. Excellent panel choice also. I’m amazed by Ajay Ji’s deep understanding of the topic. J Sai Deepak Ji & Vishnu Shankar Ji pointed out every important point related to the discussion. As per my opinion, every nationalist should watch this discussion. Thank you 🙏🏻
@sridharancr15423 жыл бұрын
Since English, the bloody imperial language continues to encompass all our dealings, much against my wish, I have to bow down to Sai Deepak, the new hero in the horizon. I wsh him absolute success in his endeavor. 🙏🙏
@goutham49313 жыл бұрын
all 4 legends together
@sudhirbchauhan3 жыл бұрын
Such a meaningful discussion..Congratulations to Sanjayji and all panelists..!
@skverma69403 жыл бұрын
Ajay ji , Vishnu ji , Deepak ji and Sanjay ji 🙏 . Both the topic and the discourse is simply marvellous and touching the inner core of the heart .All four of you are great Patriots . Sanjay ji selection of year 2030 is a great foresight as it is beyond the capacity and the vision of the present dispensation . Second line of hindu nationalist leadership is getting ready lead by the likes of Yogiji and HBS Assam . In the meantime all four of you should continue the crusade .
@apurvasolanki83672 жыл бұрын
Really very deep thoughts... Hats off.. 🙏🙏🙏🙏
@jitendrainamke6463 жыл бұрын
Republic 2.0 is needed. Very good initiative.
@chandanachowdhury63343 жыл бұрын
Excellent! All Hindus need to think over these issues - especially the youth - let our culture and Dharma be hija ked by enemies within & without!!
@infidelhindu3 жыл бұрын
50:00 The 23% number of Pakistanis being Hindus was only true until 1971, when Bangladesh broke away: East Pakistan was the one that had the bulk of Pakistan's Hindus. It's another thing that India has been appeasing Bangladesh _despite_ the persecution of Hindus there
@apuravkumarpal29033 жыл бұрын
I support your channel and thoughts Bharat mata ki jai vande matram
@kishorkumar95003 жыл бұрын
Constitution as per Hindu value system and as per our Snatan civilization should be required to build the nation narrative. Great effort and full support No voting right to Muslim and Christian, no minority nonsense
@skepticalindian0013 жыл бұрын
Strongly disagree with you where Muslim and Xtians should not have voting tights.
@kishorkumar95003 жыл бұрын
@@skepticalindian001 Why?
@skepticalindian0013 жыл бұрын
@@kishorkumar9500 Kishore ji, I am a product of European discipline during my development years, but I use Shri Jai Sai Deepak's own words where he clearly states that Hindutva is inclusive and not exclusive as per the European thought. Source--kzbin.info/www/bejne/bamThnymh5iHY7M
@kishorkumar95003 жыл бұрын
@@skepticalindian001 This inclusive theory is not working in contemporary era because first we have to understand that kuranic civilization has concept of umma and they do not believe in nation and Hindu conversion is their mean moto and what India is facing right know is the fruit of 1947. This country has divided on religious basis then why Indian Snatanis have to be secular. Hindu rashtra is required with Republic 2.0
@skepticalindian0013 жыл бұрын
@@kishorkumar9500 1. There is not Quranic culture, civilization, or a ummah. There never was, nor there will be. As for the conversion, yes you are right, the conversion law that advocates institutionalized conversions needs to be in the trash bin as it goes against the principles, the intent of the original constitution of India. Being secular does not mean to lose your identity, culture, or beliefs. It only means equality under the law, irrespective of your creed, etc., and the law to be religious neutral, but not cultural neutral. My dissent from your view is also based on what Lord Vishnu's avtaar Krishan told Arjun in Gita, on many ways that a mortal takes but eventually they end up at same place, to parmatma. This is exclusivity but does not mean you forget your own culture and beliefs. I hope my rebuttal has clarity. Thx
@aa10shu312 жыл бұрын
One of the best videos on internet 🙏
@madhavgoel2293 жыл бұрын
I loved all the episodes of the annual event but this is by far my most favorite one . ❤ ❤❤
@arjunsinghrathore9252 Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much Sanjay sir to bring these excellent intellectual people, jai hind, jai sanatan dharm, jai hindu rashtra
@savitarao74583 жыл бұрын
Very informative and thought provoking 🙏
@aryansocialworker77353 жыл бұрын
Noiiiiccceeeee sirji jai hind 😘😘😀😀❤️❤️🙏🙏🤍🤍🤩🤩🤗🤗
@jyotiprasadpanda82453 жыл бұрын
👌🏻👌🏻🇮🇳🇮🇳🙏🏿🙏🏿 This must be our discourse till the end is attended.
@nivv66133 жыл бұрын
Good to listen to Sai Deepak in JD
@ajitmisra91143 жыл бұрын
Congrats to all the speakers for Logical and Rational point of view.Especially J Sai Deepak
@sandeepsaxena82663 жыл бұрын
Very stimulating talk, thank you Sanjay ji, the only possible route as of today is keep on voting hindutva party's in power and once we attain more than 450 seats , we take up the process of overhauling the constitution with indigenous Hindu consciences ness in its soul. If the ghar wapsi happens on phenomenal level then all things will fall into place automatically. I feel the floodgates are going to open soon worldwide. 🙏🏽
@shailysree1131 Жыл бұрын
It is always such an honour to listen to such intellectual individuals. Glad the platforms like JD exists. 🙏
@mvj19703 жыл бұрын
जयपूर डायलॉग्ज के ४५०००० सदस्य बननेकी अभिनंदन.👏👏👏👏❤️❤️
@chaitrajipmer3 жыл бұрын
Fascinating!
@indian30563 жыл бұрын
Hey ishwar!! Sanjay sir aap ne hamari iss nayi generation ke liye itna accha rasta dia hai.hum lucky hain jo aapka margdarshan prapt krpaa rhe hain
@pavanchaturvedi27673 жыл бұрын
Jabardast efforts
@shubhambhamare81963 жыл бұрын
Great session🚩🤞👍🏼
@kuldeeptrivedi25083 жыл бұрын
Intelectual discussion 👌
@envynone143 жыл бұрын
This is a very important discussion. The idea needs to be taken to a larger audience.
@netengupta88743 жыл бұрын
Excellent analysis💯
@dharmascan3 жыл бұрын
Many discussions required in this direction. Kudos to everyone. Generations to come will remember their contribution.
@prasantakumarpaul15263 жыл бұрын
Ajoy jee sahi bat strongly bole .
@shyamkantverma12622 жыл бұрын
Shat Shat Naman to Entire panel 🙏🙏🙏 . Marvellous analysis and expression by each learned panelist . Selection of topic is the need of present . Extremely meaningful , interesting and informative Discourse.
@kanhaiyakumardubey47293 жыл бұрын
Very very very good and important discussions took place between all of you, Sir.
@badbhanu0073 жыл бұрын
Indeed an intellectual discussion and collective visionary thoughts.
@chotadon27253 жыл бұрын
Woww nice discussion
@sugatasenmazumdar77043 жыл бұрын
Ajay Chrungooji's opening statement is of CRITICAL importance. 👏👏👏
@aadithya91143 жыл бұрын
Sai Deepak sir.. you are great...
@Blak50983 жыл бұрын
Vande Mataram Jai Hind 🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳🕉️🕉️🇮🇳🕉️
@amitkumargupta85663 жыл бұрын
Very logical and informative discussion
@justforknowledge63673 жыл бұрын
A brilliant conversation, addressing very deep questions! Indeed, the issues that stand sorely out in the version 1.0 should be soundly addressed before the 2.0 is implemented. Dharma is already on its way out. Just got a new lease of life from the Internet and Social Media. Shri chrungu ji shouldn't shy away from ranking questions and selecting the best one. This is the second time he has done so. My special humble bow to Shri Sai Deepak ji for such brilliant understanding of the whole issue from the perspective of Rashtra. I am sure you all shall build 2.0 to be intrinsically better than 1.0.
@gopalramanathan70623 жыл бұрын
It has to be of necessity fundamentally different and vastly superior to restore DHARMA 🕉🙏🏼
@enjoyparents3 жыл бұрын
1.05.00 J sai Deepak ne Mara chakka!! 👌🚩🌷👍Gave the final decision to Sanjayji 🙏🕉
@rudramath59493 жыл бұрын
Sir,Very good topic selected for discussion.
@P.P.132 жыл бұрын
Deadly duo j sai Deepak & vishnu jain 🔥
@sunilvishwakarma4883 жыл бұрын
Namskar sir 🙏 ji aap sabhi logo ko
@ToobMee3 жыл бұрын
Very timely; relevant and most pressing topic and the panelists are crystal clear in their expression for a need of Republic 2.0 or at least an immediate modification of the current constitution to purge it of its sly inclusion of these most inimical words Secularism and Socialism! I welcome more of such discussions held in each of our big Cities so we drum up enough conciousness around this topic and ensure that every National has hgis intereset duly vested.
@maddy100710073 жыл бұрын
Very good analysis of our constitutions and emphasis on republic 2.0 and intricacies to implement it.
@Nhshukla3 жыл бұрын
Thanks to Dalmias for sponsoring this session 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏💯💯💯💯🙏🙏🙏🙏💯💯💯💯💯🙏🙏🙏🙏
@debojitdey89463 жыл бұрын
I hit the like button right as I heard Sai Deepak's opening statement. This guy needs to be promoted in a big big way.
@pfb61843 жыл бұрын
power-packed panelists!!
@jitgupta1681 Жыл бұрын
Adv. Vishnu Jain aur adv. J Sai Deepak sir ko rajya sabha bhejna chaiye.... 😊🙌 Parliament ka bahas jordar hoga 🎉
@AmitJha-ow2sr2 жыл бұрын
Watching it for the 5th time This is just marvellous
@naiyayika3 жыл бұрын
It's possible via the Vedic scriptures. The metaphysics of Socrates and Plato influenced so much the Western social and spiritual thought and brought enlightenment to the West that today WEST describes "Plato as philosophy and philosophy as Plato." We the followers of Vedic Sanatan Dharma in India seem to have forgotten that that source of his writings and philosophy was Vedic metaphysics. Before. Plato, Pythagoras went from Samos (Greece) to land of Ganga to learn Geometry. He would not have gone such a long and strange journey had the reputation of Brahmin's (Vedic) science not been long established in Europe. (Francois. M. Voltaire). Plato left Athens for about one decade and visited Prasava (Persia), Ariana (Iran) and North West part of the then India-land of Aryans. He seems to have discussed a number of metaphysical concepts with the then Vedic Rsis and Munnies. On his return to Athens, he propagated those thoughts without making any reference to Vedic rsis and munnies. However, the influence of Vedic metaphysics is clearly. visible in Plato's writings/books. Like the Vedic concept of moderation and Iddm nan mam (enlightened liberalism) Plato mentions in his Laws (174-f) and also in Utopia that in an Ideal state the range of economic disparities should be within 1:16. If the range of disparity increases marginally, the state is less ideal. However, if it increases considerably, the state is either a Democracy or an Oligarchy. The rulers in both tend to be tyrannical, corrupt, and hypocritical. In his metaphysics, Plato says that the soul of virtuous people becomes lighter and goes toward heaven by moving upward after death and that of the non-virtuous, being heavier, it stays near the earth and is the cause of rebirth. On rebirth, people may be born in one of the nine kinds of families professing different faiths, religions, as well as in the different regions of the earth. Plato thus becomes one of the few ancient Western philosophers who gave a perfect philosophical theory on secularism and universal brotherhood which in the East Vedic rishis and munnies had already conveyed through Vedas. In an ideal state, which he described as Republic, divine guidance is the maximum and in Tyranny it reaches its minimum and world dissolution (VedicPralaya) comes when that divine guidance is totally withdrawn. Like Vedic metaphysics Plato confirms that life in this vast turbulent ocean of matter- the material world is an illusion of comfort (Vedic Maya) and described the gross world as a phenomenal world. Plato held largely similar views like Vedic Rta (Laws of Nature) in his theory of Forms and Ideas. A few other glimpses of Vedic metaphysics can also seen in Plato's writings relating to divinity in the noble vocations, social classes, education system extending up to 48 years, value system and need based living, absolute nature of right and wrong and many other concepts. Like Vedas he mentioned worst thing about corruption is that it distorts the concept of knowledge. He must have learnt about the ideal philosopher king Janaka of Bhagavad-Gita assisted by Rishi Yajnvalkya and Rsika Gargi and developed the theory of "philosopher kings" for his Republic. His concept of economics and global trade has great. resemblance to Vedic economics and global trade. While Plato propagated the Vedic concept of scientific temper, his disciple Aristotle spread the message of Physical Sciences of matter with unsuspected vitality without referring to Vedas. Later many of these thoughts are found in the metaphysics of Saint Aquinas, Augustine, Immanuel Kant and many others including some scientists like Newton, Einstein etc. Is it not surprising that seekers of Vedic knowledge can get PhD Degree in Vedas in USA the bastion of secularism and a few other Western countries but not in secular India? Even the former Acting Chief Justice of Pakistan Supreme Court Mr. Mohd Ramde Khalilee when he met me about two years ago confirmed that he was a seeker of Vedic knowledge as it originated largely in the then North West India now in Pakistan. Lately an e-mail has been sent to a large number of people by an American Christian "Mike" who has done PhD in Vedic metaphysics. The e-mail says if the world is to be saved from self destruction follow Vedic eternal spiritual science - Sanatan Dharma. Somewhat similar thoughts earlier the great German philosopher Arthur Schopenhauer had expressed about Upanishads about two hundred years ago. Considering the great importance of Vedic metaphysics for the welfare of mankind and Sanatan Dharma (Vedic eternal religion), after studying the metaphysical (Upanishadic) part of four Vedas, I have written the book "Glimpses of Vedic Metaphysics" as a commoner and for the common people who are seekers of Vedic knowledge. It is not a book on Vedic literature, history or language but contains Vedic guidelines, teachings and thoughts on material, spiritual and divine aspects of human life.
@logosnongrataest76713 жыл бұрын
Tldr Vedic good, America touchstone. Mus and chrstn people interested in Vedic. Good people go heaven , bad get rebirth.
@gsfilms26352 жыл бұрын
Brilliant discussion. Aggressive, proactive measures needed. I guess this is why the current challenge to collegium is takling place by the government.
@maheshr77243 жыл бұрын
This was a very good debut. Which we have to get answers for the same
@bharatam38503 жыл бұрын
Awsm as always J Sai Deepak g
@nivv66133 жыл бұрын
Good beginning..hope it gets momentum
@shitanshusabharwal74333 жыл бұрын
A great panel and a very thought provoking discussion
@dipanjandash44853 жыл бұрын
Excellent
@santoshbharti65213 жыл бұрын
Charo mahapurusho lo koti koti naman.
@sukhveersingh36583 жыл бұрын
Dr chrungoo must be PM of our country
@Chandnisharma903 жыл бұрын
Very insightful session thanks JD🙏🏻
@sapnachaudhary95963 жыл бұрын
More power and ashirwad 🙌
@anjaligupta6215 Жыл бұрын
Bahut hi relevant discussion har hindustani ko sochna hoga nahi toh sirf naam Bharat hoga par Bharatiyataa mitt jayegi.All the panalist are true nationalist