J2 Panel PhxCon 2017 Stageit recording

[@mariangeerling2950]

It is so wonderful to see Rob Benedict perform as he does after his stroke. He seems to have recovered fully. I was not fortunate. It inspires me to watch him. Thank you, Rob!

[@SouthCountyGal]

You are still here with us, and that counts for a lot. Take care of yourself, and keep on working towards regaining what you lost. The brain is an amazing salvage machine; sometimes new pathways are formed to get past the roadblocks. That said, I know what it is like to lose vital skills, and I sympathize with your situation. Rob was incredibly lucky; Rich Speight happened to be with him at the time and recognized the symptoms. Time is the most crucial element in successfully treating a stroke, and Rich acted fast. Tim Omundson (Cain) had a stroke about six weeks ago and I believe is still in rehab. Here's hoping he recovers well.

[@mariangeerling2950]

SouthCountyGal Mine was an aneurysm so time was truly the enemy. I lost all use of my left hand after 3 days. I can crochet again! I still have my mind so I can tell the vendors the family stories. I was blessed. I'm not locked in, I'm still here. Yes, I now walk with a cane but I can walk. Statues are a challenge but I can still get up and down. All my best wishes to Tim for a gym and speedy recovery!

[@SouthCountyGal]

I am so glad that you are not locked inside your mind. Losing the ability to communicate would be the worst outcome. I had a case of Lyme last year that went on too long (was literally in bed for 8 months) and robbed me of many cognitive abilities, including reading, knitting and keeping up with a conversation. I am slowly regaining parts of my former self. It is frustrating, but I'm so thankful whenever another piece falls into place. Thank goodness you can crochet again! I completely get it; the day that yarn and knitting needles made sense I was ecstatic. It was even better when I could understand the knitting patterns. Still waiting on my comprehension levels to improve so I can do the tricky stuff again. It sounds like you actually sell your crochet work? So it was an even more important skill for you to regain. I'm happy for you that it came back. Knitting keeps me sane on the days I can't move around much. Rheumatoid Arthritis steadily steals away my physical skills and abilities, and I have to work hard to keep what I can for as long as possible. In these circumstances, we need to remember to work towards small goals each day, and try to be thankful for what we can still do. Best of luck in your continued recovery. :-) The most positive thing to come out of the past year was that I watched a LOT of Netflix; discovered Supernatural and the SPN family!

[@me4654]

The way you have explained Lyme disease is so Important, Maybe you could go more public with this.There are still so Many Doctor's that don't test or even think of Lyme. My parent's Huskey suffered so badly with the Arthritis and no-one thought to test for this until he had a stroke which caused his skull to cave in, And Animal's can infect there owner's and any person can have it for year's without knowing thank you and glad your up and about

[@SouthCountyGal]

deb patterson I do talk to people who seem to be in a similar situation to mine, when I encounter them. Because I have other health concerns that camouflaged the issue, and because my diagnosis was never official, I'm not sure mine is the best testimonial. I tested positive, but so do most people with rheumatoid arthritis or other autoimmune diseases. It came down to convincing my doctor to let me try doxycycline, which happened to work.

[@lizmoss]

i love jared's response to the religious question (around 30 min). it's very intelligent and i couldn't agree more. as a christian who loves supernatural, i face questions such as these.

[@essamlofty2748]

elisabeth moss The part where he said that He doesnt know whether Sam is a Christian, Buddhist, Muslim etc... Is obviously false. Sam is a Christian. He used to pray to God in the earlier episodes in the season and His belief in God was so extreme that he accidently ended up letting Lucifer out of his cage. Then there's the fact that the real God in the show, which is the Christian God, whom they've met and know exists for real whom they know exists, must lead to Sam, and Dean for that matter, becoming a Christian or atleast in Sam's case having their beliefs his beliefs be confirmed. Therefore in other words, Sam is a Christian and Dean is too because they know God exists and he is the Christian God. Because, the logic being is that we would all be Christians if we were to find out that the real God was the Christian God and that He existed too and seeing as this has happens for Sam and Dean. This leads me to know with 100% certainty that they are Christian.

[@lizmoss]

Essam Lofty i would disagree, since being a christian is much more than just acknowledging the existence of god. i don't think sam and dean would identify with a specific religion... they kinda believe in everything but put their faith in each other. there are certainly christian elements in the show, though.

[@essamlofty2748]

elisabeth moss Well your Christianity is defined by your belief in God. Sam and Dean have met God. If seeing is believing then Sam and Dean are Christian. Maybe not practising Christians but Christians nonetheless.

[@essamlofty2748]

Demon Knight Dean Yes but The main Deity. The most powerful Deity. The Deity that created the Universe etc... Is the Christian God. Plain and Simple. The other 'deities' were merely powerful monsters as Lucifer said when he took out scores of pagan gods with ease. In Supernatural there is only one True God and that is the Christianity which is the one True faith in Supernatural too.

[@essamlofty2748]

Demon Knight Dean No not really. The Christian God is the main God in Supernatural. The other brings aren't deities. There's a clear distinction between them. If they were 'Gods' too then Lucifer wouldn't have run through them so easily. Also The 'Christian' God is already confirmed as being the only God because of when 'Chuck' told his sister that "The universe was just waiting to be created". This confirms God as being the Creator of the Universe and everything in and outside of it. Anything living in fact. Now just sit down for a moment and think about the vastness of our universe and then remember that there are multiple versions and parallel worlds coexisting alongside of them too, within the Supernatural world. If someone is powerful and intelligent enough to create that then that person is more than just a God. He is the Creator. The Intelligent Designer etc...

[@kaylaslack9276]

Oh my god. The "I don't wanna be John Winchester" actually killed me. I've never thought about it like that, really. That put everything into perspective and honestly, if they wanted to stop after s13, I wouldn't be mad. They don't wanna be John. They want to be with their family. They want to watch their children grow up. And that's okay.

[@crystalgallegos5729]

Right.....that broke my heart! I am okay whenever they want to quit...go..be with your families and watch your children grow, that is what every mom and dad wants..

[@Ella-tv2pt]

I was there and almost started crying when he said that- I wanted to run up and give him a huge hug so badly

[@huntingpeoplesavingthings6190]

ive been thinking about that too, i was watching a compilation where they talk about their families in a panel and it just hurts that the main reason why they cant be with their true family is because they're fulfilling their responsibilities into another different family which is the spn fam. i dont want them to finish supernatural but i know they have to someday and im gonna have a mental breakdown just thinking about it but on the bright side they're finally gonna have all the time they want to spend it all with their families. :)

[@tracywaters3948]

So respect their openess about the love and commitment they have for their families. everybody faces it, bt it is insteresting to watch them go through it. The 23 eiposdes in Vancoover, all recorded away from home and then all the Con's too. Its hard on them & their families. Maybe CW could change the shedule, slow the seasons down. I know there are filming seaons in the US/Canada, but why can't that change? film 1 season over the year and give them 6 months off. Yes ok, we'd only get 1 season every 2 years, but it will give them a longer career and us fans won't go away. Or they drop the number of episodes per season. Would the ratings drop? hmmmm - don't think so. there a lot of fans world wide. CW would still make a ton of money. At some point they will decide between working and Cons. It seems there will be less con's in the next year already. Couldn't blame them at all. then there is the thought - Hunters are not expected to have LONG lives. I just feel something will change this year. Then there is the career issue. they have been playing these characters for a long time. They might want to try different things. Wouldn't you? But it would be a huge risk for them as currently bills are being paid and certain lifestyles are being lived. Plus they do love the #SPN Family. Bless them. I feel for them in such a wierd insane industry.

[@crystalgallegos5729]

@Tracy Waters...I could not agree with you more! They do ALOT I don't think there is another show like theirs that does 23 episodes a season. I would love to see them/the Winchesters do this FOREVER, but as a mother myself, I would so hate to miss football games, dance recitals, first words, first steps and they have already missed so much in their children's (childs) lives that I do feel for them. They did choose this and knew what was involved, but there does come a time when you do 'have to hang up the hunter's hat' and say goodbye. Lord help the whole #SPNFamily (including myself) when that does happen.. but they all deserve to be with their wives and children...

[@kassyashley7135]

"We're now collecting children, Jared" 😂😂😂😂😂 Love them so much ❤❤❤❤

[@spn_for_life171]

Kassy Ashley could u mention the min so i could watch plz?

[@kassyashley7135]

Sure it's at 36:10 ;)

[@kassyashley7135]

36:35 to be more specific

[@johunter4733]

They are such a unit. sigh

[@keearataylor9317]

thank you for taking the time to upload. It is much appreciated.

[@Leahme12]

this is great! Jared looked so exhausted at jibcon so it's wonderful to see him happy and well rested

[@chronic_chiari_warrior7481]

24:50 Jared's "Hey." Scared a fan, And Jensen pointed her out. "You jumped." I love these idjits so much. They make me feel better..... they are so crazy.😂😂😂😂😂❤😂😂😂😵

[@KiyokaMakibi]

Also the actor advice question again *groans*

[@ceciliacabrini]

We're not talking about how "proud" Jensen was about the girl's name? He was totally like "this is definitely my kind of name to put on a kid". Lol.

[@robyndilday8629]

thanks again for uploading all the panels...i was really upset when someone posted a wk or so ago that they were not going to allow filming of the panels anymore and when i wasnt seeing any uploads i figed i was not going to be able to see them..so thank you so very much for these...u rock

[@GabrielBadwolf]

robyn dilday they're livestreaming on stageit.com all I did was record the livestream

[@tracywaters3948]

thank you I love these panels. I couldn't watch the recording as it just didn't mix with UK time and family life. you can see the boys found it hard to get into their J2 panel. Bless them. they've been travelling around the world in the first part of hiatus and its taking its toll. they are tired and need some time off with their families. From personal experience I know it gets a lot harder the nearer you reach 40 and beyond to commit to that much travel and personal family time. You feel it more. I hope they get some rest this summer as I want J2 & SPN to keep going.

[@GabrielBadwolf]

I'm in the UK as well so I know all about what time it was on at live in the UK lol. But I didn't have to be anywhere or have a family to take care of.

[@deejayuk]

yeh big thanks for the ride Jennifer. Fantastic panel and thanks for uploading Rachel .

[@evakrda123]

Jared asking what's the difference between marmalade and jam IM CRYING 😂😂😂

[@kpopandtherealworld]

can you explain this jike please?

[@taracow7410]

DrunknHappyYou ummmm... it's super crude... google it. haha.

[@TheBbygrl15]

evakrda123 omg best part 😂

[@kmm2442]

Why would Jared even joke that? I wonder if he jokes like this with his wife?

[@TheBbygrl15]

It's a funny joke lol I'm sure they all joke around like that

[@pequena_ninera]

Thank you for this. Much appreciated. I love the J2 panels the best.

[@paralegalerika_s6389]

The little girl who asked the last question was great. She was poised and it was a great question!

[@joycenesselhauf4768]

And then there's the "acting" question again....and again...and again........

[@Z.h.S.B.]

Wich one is the acting question

[@theresanz4771]

yep thanks for up loading there panels for us that don't have access. APPRECIATE X

[@GabrielBadwolf]

Theresa Vincent they've started livestreaming all this is is a recording of the livestream from stageit.com

[@NihilisticKtten]

Thank you so much for the upload!!... You're the best!

[@MoonFirefly13]

Thank you for taking to time to share this. Love Louden Swain and J2! I love how the Rich and Rob get the audience fired up for Jensen and Jared. LOL

[@vaidehijayashankar8423]

OMG I'm so glad I'm not the only 13 year old fan of the show. I want to go to a con even more badly now...

[@ally9376]

Of course not lol

[@kiki14061979]

No, absolutely not! 😏 I have been watching the show since the beginning. During the hiatus I rewatch it. Even during my pregnancy... My son, who is three, when asked what he would like to watch during his winding down moment before dinner, always says: "Supernatural??" 😁

[@marlsberlin7716]

Thank you, Badwolf!!! I was already in deep trouble (health) before any of those campaigns, but I was also already an SPN fan. I followed (media-wise) the guys and was there for a first in some of their Con circuit... and YES! SPN and specially, J2, helped me through some of the worst times in my life. In 2016 I almost died and after having lost everything else, one of the first things I thought of when I woke up was: Darn!! I lost S11's ending and they're already into S12 ... and that was mainly because I feel like J2 and the fandom are my family and when I'm not around them (even just by proxy) I feel very, very lonely.

[@GabrielBadwolf]

M B I know the feeling, I've Fibromyalgia and Hyper Mobility Syndrome, and suffer from depression so I know what an impact things like the always keep fighting campaign can have

[@marlsberlin7716]

Yes!!! (But, no! I didn't mean "Yes (whohoo...illness..))" and BTW your problem sucks exactly like mine (I have Peripheral Neuropathy - which is a degenerative neurological disorder). I know I'm going to die, sooner rather than later and in the meanwhile I'm going to be paralyzed, BUT while the whole thing happens I'm going to try and have fun. Please AKF and remember: You are not alone. Kisses.

[@joannamontana915]

M B I'm so sorry you have ON. it's painful I know my sister has it, but there are many more chances to get it cured these days. If you can't get cured you have many ways for pain relief. I hope u find some pain relief.

[@GabrielBadwolf]

Silly Puppy I'm 35 years old 40s not that old. But seriously no matter what age you are we'll welcome you in this fandom

[@marlsberlin7716]

I'm 53! (I wasn't 12 y.a. LOL)

[@catherinayoung]

Thanks for recording that for us!

[@bussyonfleek3639]

i love the weird clap jared does when he hits the mic on his palm , he does it on every panel.

[@katiehatfield1892]

bussyonfleek awesome 👏😀

[@michaeltraffanstedt7674]

Thanks for posting this for ALL of us.Can't make it to shows,but watch these all the time.Thanks.

[@johunter4733]

I love how Jared stares at Jensen when Jensen is fixing the microphone.

[@nancynicolaired979]

thanx so much Rachel for doing this it really made my day bc I'm taking best friend to have a biopsy tomorrow and this made me laugh a little today so thanx again so much for bringing some joy into a dark time!!!🌞🌹🌈🔯💯😎👍

[@rruthless]

Thank you for the upload!

[@alanaw4489]

I Just love how Rob puts his heart into the song

[@Allarastar004]

Thanks for uploading this. I am from Spain and it's imposible for me right now to go to these conventions. But you made me so happy, really, I love to see them. :)

[@fiwen]

Thanks for uploading.

[@ancaragalie8294]

thank you so much

[@caelyn2873]

13:30 Jensen is me dealing with any conflict.

[@dianewinchester2930]

36:30 Now its a collection. We are now collecting children, Jared!!! haha

[@chelseawebb3890]

Thank you for being a sneaky lil thing and recording the stream!! Love watching them cuz anything can happen.

[@madamepumpkin]

Thank you very much. Its a great quality and the sound is perferct!

[@Phoenix13Rose]

I love it when Rob sings!

[@mariepenela2656]

Thank you for posting this. Looking forward to more posts of supernatural.

[@yashiAR]

This was a wonderful panel. Some very interesting and intelligent questions that got equally interesting and intelligent answers. And Destiny at the end was very sweet Awesome panel. Thank you so much for the upload.

[@joycenesselhauf4768]

I don't understand why people ask other people how they feel when they are involved in something good. What are they supposed to say? "I feel terrible about it and I hate doing it?" Sorry, I just think those questions are so stupid.

[@_thelinewheretheskymeetsthesea]

I'm the person Rob pointed at, at 1:23❤ I blew him a kiss and he was a sweetheart.

[@isabelmontano4941]

I look away for a second and jensen yells so loud I dropped my phone because I had earbuds in

[@Cami-ri8ks]

wtfs up with the first question? how fucking weird.

[@closetdoor7052]

Camila F i read your comment and thought to myself "oh, I'm sure the question wasn't that weird". And then I heard it 😕

[@huntingpeoplesavingthings6190]

Camila F why whats wrong? idgi

[@CattIsANerd]

If anything the WORDING is "odd" but not the question as a whole...... TONS of other people have asked about their families and nobody said it was weird. She was literally just asking "what's a weird experience you've had with your wives or children" it was a very innocent question......

[@CattIsANerd]

I'm 20. So no I don't. But I watch these panels all the time. This is maybe the HUNDREDTH TIME someone has asked about their kids. And there's literally NOTHING WRONG WITH IT!!! If they had a problem with it, they would say so.

[@CattIsANerd]

Like how Jensen has a problem with the Destiel questions. He has made it very clear that they make him uncomfortable. (Yet fans still bring it up!) so if they had a problem with it, they'd say so.

[@lisawillis8227]

So, what what happened at 13:02 before Jared dropped his mice and he did that whole, ‘hold me back with, Jensen, I missed it

[@Mekare9774]

Thank you for recording this. I love watching the conventions on youtube but most of the time it's hard to hear them or the sound is just horrible in general. I hope to see more recordings from you in the future. :)

[@GabrielBadwolf]

Val V that all depends if they livestream anymore for me to record

[@Mekare9774]

Thank you, Hun for the reply! Let's hope they livestream more. :D

[@Drop_The_Mic]

he kept saying my name, jared love me xD

[@KiyokaMakibi]

A recording of a recording yet still good quality! Its surreal to have a recording where it sounds like audience isn't as loud and close to the mic. p.s Do you have the gold panel? I can't find it :(

[@GabrielBadwolf]

KiyokaMakibi the advantages of fiberoptic broadband and internal network on 1Gb Ethernet, I can get full HD quality livestream with very little buffering even though it's being broadcasted from Phoenix Arizona and I'm in Northern Ireland. The actual file is over 2GB that I uploaded to KZbin because i recorded with my screen recorder on the highest setting. It's another reason I put these up on KZbin I may have a 3TB hard drive but I'm probably going to have to go through these and delete them off the drive to save space at some point. I don't have the gold panel unfortunately because they didn't livestream it. I wasn't physically there, yet alone have a gold pass. A lot of people are getting confused about that fact that this is a livestream recording because it's good quality. I heard rumours that they're cracking down on people recording the whole thing with cameras, I don't know how true it is though.

[@InvaderKevin]

am i the only guy who watches this kind of videos?

[@GabrielBadwolf]

kevin garcia well according to the analytics on this video 7.8% of the viewers are male. So not many but not the only one. With 21,212 views at the time of writing this comment that makes 1654 male viewers lol

[@InvaderKevin]

good to know thanks

[@datajana]

Thank you! 💙

[@chriscross8366]

Thank you so much 😊

[@evonaagrochowski8006]

Q: Why is this convention, so damned expensive,... usually it s the closest one to me, how ever, I can t ever afford, it,...! Because it s ridiculously, so expensive,..!

[@alexam5942]

Now the 300th episode has just recently aired and they're still going!

[@vilmagarcia6267]

What did she said at 48:30?

[@cryoon_520]

first thing i see/hear: HOLY SH*T CHUCK!?

[@annemanning1422]

"It's a very little girl" part made me laugh so hard. I love Rich so much.

[@sunnykaykay]

@46:45 "Jared will!" 😂😂😂

[@huntingpeoplesavingthings6190]

SEASON 5 BITCHESSSSSS

[@Sultan11-MF]

Would be so great to meet these guys

[@kaitywillis4942]

Anyone get the gold panel?

[@GabrielBadwolf]

Kaity WIllis it wasn't livestreamed need to wait for the people at the con to start posting

[@CattIsANerd]

Kaity WIllis usually they start posting by now :(

[@kaitywillis4942]

Ya I figured they would post by now still haven't found it

[@Lilly15557]

Was anyone able to record panels to post? Did Jensen sing? I was really ticked when I read that they weren't allowing filming anymore. We can't all make it to the cons.

[@tawnykenobi6065]

Kaity WIllis I went and recorded clips and things for myself, and no one stopped me at all or even said a thing! There was a sign at the door that said not to... But hey, we're Winchesters right? 😉! No harm, no fowl! Someone did record it and only posted it a day ago. I hope more people will "Winchester" the no recording rule though! It makes me sad that we're getting less and less posts... And even more grateful for those who are still posting! ❤️

[@qweyiiy7797]

8:35 (9:38 9:48 10:00) 13:00(13:24 14:14(18:25 28:28 33:56 34:44 36:24 37:20 38:45 39:02(43:05(44:18 45:50 46:14(46:50(51:08 58:04 1:01:57(1:02:53 1:03:54

[@zahraheidari191]

it was really amazing and fun ❤❤ and Rob was sooooo good I love him and the way he sing the song with passion it so enjoyable to watch ❤❤❤❤ and sorry for my bad English 😓🌸

[@dianewinchester2930]

Matching shirts.

[@More.Victoria]

The look Jared made on his face at 14:22 😂

[@reneemanns6816]

What was yelled at 46:57

[@ConstantineFurman]

"Jared will!"

[@evonaagrochowski8006]

Honestly, the very first one, in Phoenix, was practically walking distance, but it s so, freakishly expensive, I can't ever, afford it..! Damned,..!

[@celinebethge300]

40:25 😂 so the show ends?

[@honeycoffeeandmilk996]

Swain in the beginning

[@fellycakes8268]

LUCY IN THE SKY WITH DIAMONDS

[@samstreveler3335]

I live in Phoenix and missed this 😭😭😭

[@marcilenebatista7354]

coloca legenda em português por favor no vídeo do dia 11 com Jensen e Jared obrigada

[@chippywinchester1852]

I almost pissed myself at 24:50

[@Schuyler2614]

Even my cat jumped at that and freakin' nothing ever wakes him up! xD

[@valerielinares2068]

As a Christian, I did not get offended when they started introducing biblical themes. Simply because it seems clear they are aware and they acknowledge that they put their own 'Supernatural' twist to the stories they tell. It seems they are aware it is not any depiction of the truth - they're just telling the story of a fictional world with fictional characters.

[@lunarmoth8361]

I just found out that Danneels first name is Elta. My sister's name is Elta, ive never met anyone or heard of anyone else with that name. How cool!

[@SouthCountyGal]

Mark would keep his clothes on...what? LOL! "I'm sorry, Misha; you're a nice guy and all, but this island is not clothing optional so I'm voting you off."

[@jacquelincagle906]

Still cant find anyone with the gold panel :(

[@aliciacctx9610]

Metallica and Rob Zombie fans, yes!

[@Sultan11-MF]

This is great

[@lorenapilipovic5261]

Can someone please explain wth is a Klondike bar ? Why do they keep talking about that xD

[@shellw3288]

Impala 67 it's an ice cream bar. It's famous tag line is "what would you do for a Klondike bar?"

[@lorenapilipovic5261]

shell W oh thank you

[@Vousie]

@@shellw3288 Thank you. :) Been so confused.

[@hannahpaynter6960]

I almost choked on my apple at 28:05 lmao

[@makenziej8632]

21:12 he looks at the camera

[@bronwynmorrah4598]

What did the girl say at 48.30?

[@mirrorball5203]

thank uuuuuuuu

[@makenziej8632]

13:30 😭

[@littlepanda6796]

Can we please talk about Jareds face around 18:20 🤣

[@cryoon_520]

the last qns was great:3 and I'm talking about both the song and the girl's qns

[@hilarybenoit2926]

I love how apparently driving is cheaper then flying.. lol.. technically if you add up all the costs it is the same amount as a flight.

[@saiafee2893]

Dear Jesus they make me laugh so hard!

[@mirak4952]

What made Jared throw his mic & chair and get up like that? 😂

[@dayagryphon5459]

Okay, but when Jared talked about Sam's religious standing, it was great and all, but I don't think Sam can even be an atheist considering he's met God.

[@Vousie]

For sure. The definition of an Atheist is someone who believes that God doesn't exist. So Sam can be not Christian (if he doesn't think God is worth worshipping), but he for sure can't be Atheist.

[@isabelmontano4941]

I'm crying I was supposed to be there

[@dianarichter5757]

❤❤❤❤❤❤

[@tooba5299]

6:41 the floor is lava

[@dawnbintliff5310]

c'mon people!! religion? really?! this is ENTERTAINMENT!!! take it at face value & enjoy it for what it is!!! pure fun w/ fantastic actors, ALL!! cudos guys & gals!! thanks​ for escape!!XO

[@hoangmaihuong571]

39:03 for the people who want to hear the lottery-story

[@alexsantoro597]

Why aren't they allowed to film at conventions anymore?

[@Nerdygirl705]

I was one of the people who said sing it

[@kathysynesael8239]

Wow worked 1 day a month in Gilmore Girls... Star material.

[@linastolen8752]

1:03:53 Secrets, always secrets

[@NananaOli]

OK, what happened in 13:00? Can anyone explain? :D

[@BulletProofMySoul]

Jared said they've been there two times, then the audience shouted '3 times'. Then he pretended he didn't know how to count.

[@missijackson6536]

y is it that at evry other con u get that 1 ? " do u hve any advice 4 a inspiring actor" ugh !

[@madamepumpkin]

the answer I want to give everytime is: Do your homework!! watch the other panels, we said there everything we can say!

[@Kukac83]

300?? That would be pretty soon!?! Please be joking!!