Jacinta Ruru - When the home is on Māori Land: beware the legal issues

New Zealand Centre for Sustainable Cities event. At a time when housing is becoming more unaffordable and homelessness is on the rise, facilitating the construction of homes on Māori land seems like an obvious solution. But is it as simple as that? What are the legal ramifications of building on Māori land? And what are the potential legal barriers landowners may have to navigate?

[@rihipaeahughes9831]

My home is on maori freehold land built in 1969 by my father who held a lease from 1950 to 1976 of his fathers land, he knew the govt were trying to break his lease and refused to concede to their offerings

[@arohanui922]

The hoops ordinary Maori have to go through just to get a no from either the land courts, laws, banks or Whānau is the saddest part of our history.

[@getmrfleet]

Don't ask just get on with it.

[@willgeorge5644]

So after 2040 will it be like that for everyone?

[@arohanui922]

@@willgeorge5644 Yip. Unless NZ stops virtue signaling.

[@brandonrapata5885]

Occupy

[@dennisconroy3459]

The Maori land Court are not Tikanga Mauri. They do not cover Mauri customary land usage, Maori land Court are a Corporation, the same as the Corporate Government The Government is registered at the securities and exchange Washington DC. This Government is equivalent to as the same Franchise business. And also county council. Mauri/Native freehold land is not for commercial franchise , business. But is wholly covered by customary usage. The word "Maori" was invented by Queen Victoria council, so that they could commercialize the Natives of Aotearoa.

[@utubermax]

Really? No more than the 'commercializing' of any other 'subject' of the Crown. Maori retained their chieftainship of their land and chattels, just as any other existing NZr retained the rights to their land and chattels as subjects. That didn't mean Maori could entirely do their own thing ignoring the laws of the land - the same ones everyone else had to obey - i.e. just as all NZ'rs have to pay their rates and taxes today. And where do you get this nonsense about the Maori Land Court being a corporation and what's the US SEC got to do with the price of fish? But you're right, they didn't have a collective name, just as they didn't have 'one voice' and underscores the utter nonsense of co-governance. Co-governance with 500-odd separate chiefs? Bollocks!

[@utubermax]

@Robin Tamihere Half-cocked - really? In what way? It seems you haven' read or understood the Treaty.

[@merekaracooper1593]

What version of Law do you speak and study from. Your speaking Auckland university Law administrative law, you don't speak from constitutional Lore, you should wear the one pants not two. Hence confusion as this BS has come this far. Do you hear your words Lady. Learn Constitutional Lore, Maori land Court is not the Rangatira courts. Look above you at the murders seal in the house of justice. Wake up and know what you talking about not playing with the tail so you can eat what falls out. Been at the ass too long and use your Head for a change and be at the Head not the tail waiting for what falls. This is the NZ government corperations, they not about governance here. The freehold Maori land you speak are in heritage to the future generations of children wellbeing of the Land water people is not for people wishing to come here. Native aboriginal titles owners of the nation. OG not EG.

[@robertmiller2173]

Really? Tragic and sad!

[@duncanbelmonttakao6356]

​@@robertmiller2173I'm interested in your korero but a question? We have "He Whakaputanga"1835 signed by King William. we have "Waitangi 1840". Are you able to explain the too?

[@adelehauwai3024]

Thank you. Ngā mihi

[@rihipaeahughes9831]

Institutions created for minor shareholders to sell out from under tge major holders which gave institutions like lands and survey the foothold to lease land which we know throughout hitori is the first step to annexation of Maoriland

[@davethewave7248]

"So Maori were the first people to make these lands their homes here in Aoteroa NZ according to their own system of tenure and building codes.." lol. C'mon, a 'system of tenure and building codes' only came with colonization/ civilization. Previous to that, land was only held as long as you could defend it from your neigbours.

[@dd2451]

And don;t forget a lot of Maori land was legally sold by Maori to settlers and only when the title issued, other Maori in the tribe rejected the sale leading to war and confiscation. No fault of the settler.Prior to 1840, land was taken by tribal conquest. Tribal Pograms were common but not talked about today.

[@davethewave7248]

@@dd2451 I think the damage was done with a too humanitarian note struck in the treaty that recognized customary title/ ownership of all the land [even wasteland] to the tribes [keeping in mind that the land in NZ was vast in proportion to its inhabitants]. Previous to this, only cultivated/ possessed land, was recognized as owned [Lockean mixing of labour] and certain rights to fisheries and hunting grounds recognized. Once the tribes saw the commercial/ economic value of land, by its exchanging hands a few times, they set up a land league... and then the inevitability of conflict/ war.

[@dovetail90]

@@dd2451 And after 1840 the government stole (confiscated) 6 million acres because Māori didn't want to sell it. Then there were all the many land acts that got a whole lot more. War time acquisitions by the Crown for the war effort... never to be returned as promised! The leases are another example. Māori off to war fighting for the Crown and return to find their lands confiscated! kzbin.info/www/bejne/iKHQmXljgZZ-nLs

[@brightmal]

I'm wondering how Iwi corporation ownership of land fits into this.

[@barneyboy2008]

Having worked for one I can say that all the land held is put in by the individual owners and they received shares back proportionately. It is often tenths land.

[@grizzz6884]

@@barneyboy2008 is the the same system used by the sharemarket . as that system if there is a crash , you don't own the shares

[@dovetail90]

@@barneyboy2008 Hmmm, my papa used to get a cheque for $10 every year. I think that's called Māori privilege isn't it?

[@duncanbelmonttakao6356]

Thank you for outing your self as Ngai Tama Tuhoe Chief I understand the complexities of pakeha law in conjunction with maritime laws of commercial Commerce and banking. Everything that you are promoting is based on "fraud". Tikanga Lore has been violated as a direct result of the Westminster system of political governance. If you continue to promote this form of unlawful coruption you will be held criminally liable for promoting fraud.. e Te iwi o Te motu ETU whanau ETU.

[@josephkereopa5606]

does rates have to be paid on Maori land?

[@ShirleyZhang-bt4dj]

No .But they should.Its outrageous

[@chastautoko7177]

@@ShirleyZhang-bt4dj why?

[@chastautoko7177]

@@ShirleyZhang-bt4dj why?

[@chastautoko7177]

@@ShirleyZhang-bt4dj why???

[@patriciatehaate236]

Not sure mines under freehold so yes I pay rates. Some form of rates should be paid the papakainga below our place looks like a shit hole , we have squatters and mishmash of makeshift houses. Ugh. It's ugly

[@rihipaeahughes9831]

Heaps of those houses whare on maoriland, what are you gonna do about it kawana, its our land and pakeha law bends over backwards for pakeha protection and land security by giving them equity providing security

[@neilstuarr2278]

There's more maori freehold land than that in the S.I none of the land up the taieri is there......

[@willgeorge5644]

what did land ownership look like before colonization? come on, somebody must know? Help me please?

[@AverageDiscordMod]

they probably didnt even know what land ownership was before colonization lol

[@steventhomas9461]

Tribes continuosly stole land from neighbouring tribes

[@melaroha8003]

you can ask other indigenous tribes like the Native Indians in America how they were also colonized.

[@davethewave7248]

Ran red in tooth and claw.

[@user-no3sl6xz1i]

​@steventhomas9461 why would Maori do that when they had the whole of nz to themselves.

[@karinamihaka-edmonds9715]

Nga mini nui ki a koe, Thank you so much for sharing your expertise Jacinta.

[@user-xb8tc3tc8t]

Australia has a Jacinta as well. Same gobblygook.

[@rihipaeahughes9831]

Stay in aussie with your jacinta

[@lilianabracanov239]

Insurance yeah not on maori land as not securable by instrument of law to a bank. Creates a void asset in name only with no guts value of monetary worth or compliance

[@desiree1012]

Where do you come from jacinta

[@josephl9619]

She looks like she mostly comes from the european part of the world, probably britain.

[@melaroha8003]

she's a Narsissist close to being a Psychopath.

[@adsdft585]

We short of income for government. So may be there could be a Maori land tax and this would fund Maori collective needs.

[@getmrfleet]

Hey lady the 66,000,000 acres of Pakowhai is illegally occuppied by the New South Wales settler parliament their defacto legislation has no lawful status.

[@merekaracooper1593]

Then in 1841 they created a deed's and registration office in England France Poland Germany and London. New Munsters New lincester new Ulster. 1841 what a cheek onwards bloodshed

[@richardireland6072]

Oh here we go again….😴

[@medit8iv_native970]

Do your learning

[@richardireland6072]

@@medit8iv_native970 he porangi koe

[@medit8iv_native970]

@@richardireland6072 poko kohua

[@richardireland6072]

@@medit8iv_native970 this is fun what else you got?! 😂😂

[@medit8iv_native970]

@@richardireland6072 can go all day buthaaa what's up pez

[@dennisconroy3459]

Anyone can build on Papa kainga land, so long as you talk to most of the share holders to, build upon. It is in the best interest to build a house reasonable strong have a proper electrical fit and safe wiring. Maori have the right build with out informing any legal law. Te ture whenua land law, is not in charge, it is not the boss, The Maori share holders are the Principal owners. Maori lore is lore, the legal law does not have autonomy. Loans from any New Zealand Bank is designed to debt trap, and take the land away from the Maori land owners.

[@kevintreweek7014]

The banks will take your house , your land whether your Maori or European or any race if… you fail on your payments. It’s not the banks against Maori. It’s the way it’s always been. Pay your bill’s/mortgage’s and you won’t lose your property. Simple as that for “all” New Zealanders

[@Kathleen-Mariam]

Thats a load of rubbish. So many appartments in Auckland now.

[@regrangihuna5089]

Hold onto your whenua and awa and moana, kia ora ai te whanau ....Pupuritia, ki nga kokonga e wha o Aotearoa, ahakoa he iti, he pounamu, kei te toe. Kohikohi kai i roto i te ngahere, whakangau, haere ki te moana, kei te hi ika, haere ki te whenua, he maara kai. Kei te haere mai te hiakaitanga....kia reri, kia oho, kia mataara. Te matauranga o te pakeha he mea whakato hei tinanatanga mo wai ra?, mo te kawanatanga, he taniwha, ko hatana tana ingoa. Kia tu, kia whakatikatika nga mahi kino o te paremata niu tireni. Ma te Runga Rawa tatou e arahi. Kia tau te rangimarie o te Atua kaha rawa Matua nui i te rangi ko Ahayah tona ingoa..

[@utubermax]

Translated, is this what you said? Greetings to the family, hold onto the four corners of Aotearoa, even though they may be small or made of greenstone, they are still precious. Gather food from the forest, fish in the sea, cultivate the land for food. The dawn is approaching...be alert, be awake, be vigilant. Is the knowledge of the Pakeha to be used as a foundation for whom? For the government, it's a mythological creature, Hatana is its name. Stand up, correct the wrongs of the New Zealand parliament. Let us be guided by the Almighty, the Great Father in the sky, whose name is Ahayah. May the strongest peace be upon us.

[@regrangihuna5089]

@@utubermaxKao... Not quite,, i would translate it myself for you but I sense you most likely disagree with most of what im implying anyway. correct me if Im wrong.... and il give you are more correct and concise translation that leaves no ambiguity.

[@utubermax]

@@regrangihuna5089 I'd like that Reg. You wrote it and know what you meant. Given this is an international site, extremely few would know. I didn't, but fed it into ChaptGPT (the AI platform for a translation) and that is what it produced. It seemed reasonable, but I gather the Maori language has different meanings for some words, so it's not surprising it departs somewhat. I might well disagree with you, but unless one knows what one is saying, who would know? I am always open to be corrected when the facts and history clearly show what is the more likely interpretation. I just don't like it when people blatantly tell porkies and spread typicallywhat these days is termed disinformation.

[@regrangihuna5089]

@@utubermax Theres always 2 sides or more to a story. Theres about 15 countries in the british commonwealth monarchy 2023. Maybe 15 stories of facts and interpretations. Im sure the Scottish and the Irish interpret what had happened to them differently than whats taught in the colonial schools in britain and even nz concerning their lands and freedoms of choice when the british invaded them. When the victims of colonisation get to tell there story after research and study of history, no matter what language they speak, most of their story is about civil war instigated by a foreign force that wanted the real estate, oils, minerals, and control of the population for industrial development. The outcome up til 2023 is the smoking gun, the monarchy still hold the bag. The Roman empire is alive and well in corporate entities including the vatican.

[@utubermax]

@@regrangihuna5089 That's indeed true Reg, but the history is perhaps more clear here than elsewhere. The English didn't come here guns blazing, nor were they an invading nearby tribe ready to take whatever, enslave, kill and/or eat you - assuming you were a local inhabitant. No, I acknowledge it wasnt all a bed of roses, but it could have been far worse - but it was all-but inevitable at some point. What annoys me are those with the romantic idea that life was some sort of Utopia before colonisation. If you take yourself back to 1820, what was land and modern resources (like oil, gas and metals etc) to Maori, other than a means of exchange for colonial comforts and weaponry? And if life had continued as it was, where would they be today? The realty is you, personally, wouldn't be alive, because I'll wager you have some other (probably European) ancestry? But that aside, would you have anything more than you have now? I rather suspect not, unless your tribe were the successful usurpers. But perhaps to cut to the chase Reg, what's your view on whether Maori ceded sovereignty? That I think will crystallize where we respectively stand. Otherwise, neither of us has any control over what happened about two centuries ago. Willie Jackson's whakapapa were involved with killing t Morirori. He says it's nothing do with him - before his time. Who do we believe and what should you or I be responsible for? And Reg, I suspect you'll appreciate, there's no such thing as a free lunch.

[@robertmiller2173]

It is all too hard!

[@warricknicholls7080]

Hone Heke

[@brightmal]

Looking at some of the comments, I'm once again stunned by how toxic racists are. And ignorant!

[@utubermax]

Oh which ones Mark, be more specific - those putting the boot into Pakeha or the other?

[@brightmal]

@@utubermax the others. People trying to put the boot into Maori.

[@utubermax]

@@brightmal Oh, I forgot, racism only goes one way. Just look at Tusiata Avia's recent poem.

[@erinpaul5762]

@@utubermax obviously Tusiata is not Maori

[@utubermax]

@@erinpaul5762 No, she's not, but clearly there are double standards at play. If a Eurpoean came out with what she did, with vitriol directed at, say, Te Kooti and his descendants, who murdered several unarmed Pakeha adults and children (amongst others), what do you think the reaction would have been?

[@lechevalierdesmots2979]

Protocol for Constitutions We declare to the world that according to the principle put by this Protocol we accept SPEEEs' (Socio-Politico-Economic-Ecologic-Entities') eco-cultural diversity, each SPEEE has right to make their own laws and implement them to their members, we deny any monopoly to any SPEEE, to reduce the multiplicity of SPEEEs to singularity to protect and practice those rights and prevent the degeneration of eco-librium of SPEEEs and their natural environments we will organize institutions to establish justice and guide with truth to peace, unless the God wills otherwise. Article 1. Each SPEEE as a socio-politico-economic-entity decides her own form of administration herself and names herself. Article 2. Within the framework of this Protocol, law making and implementing their own laws to their own members, ruling power belongs to SPEEEs. Article 3. No SPEEE can impose their laws to other SPEEEs. SPEEEs can judge their members according to their own laws. Article 4. Laws of SPEEEs are in effect on their members in all time and space. Article 5. Each member of an SPEEE has the right to obtain termination of membership according to the laws of the SPEEE. Article 6. SPEEEs decide their aims and duties according to their laws but those cannot be in contradiction to the principles of this Protocol. Article 7. Inter SPEEE laws can be made and institution can be organized by SPEEEs according to the principles of this Protocol.

[@mahitaonebuilders251]

Awesome

[@laeniz]

Thank you for sharing this i will look it up

[@patriciatehaate236]

Should whanau be allowed to use Treaty settlement money as a mortgage for homes

[@deksper]

@@patriciatehaate236 Why not? ... As long as the greedy fat cats at the top of the dunghill pass down the whanau's share to them in the first place.

[@roihopk9236]

Why don't you ask whanau who have lived on nga whenua Maori since mai rāno, what the barriers are to improving Maori land for papakainga housing. There are many barriers. Maori did not consent to their ownership of native land being changed to fee simple or freehold title. LINZ went ahead and created these titles without the owners consent transferring the whenua out of hapū ownership.

[@8jragonmauriora884]

Unextinguished Native Land Title.

[@8jragonmauriora884]

Ngati Apa v Attorney General - Foreshore and Sea Bed. All land is Maori Customary Land, U-N-L-T.

[@8jragonmauriora884]

Maorirangersecuritydivision can change your Hapū land to U-N-L-T, or you can learn to do it yourself.

[@wairoa55]

@@8jragonmauriora884 Dont forget the clouds, the trees, the birds what else can you think off????

[@8jragonmauriora884]

There is the legal, there is the lawful and there is tikanga over the land. Tikanga is lawful, but, lawful is not tikanga.Tikanga is supreme when or where maori customary land is concerned, that is, unextinguished native land title.

[@labellaangora6887]

That housing looks like stack and pack , awful

[@magamike1800]

#ApartheidNZ.

[@davethewave7248]

'The arrival of Pakehas has led to significant displacement of Maori from their homes'. lol More like Maori sold waste/ surplus land to Pakehas in the new order, where Maori came to enjoy some law and order by which they could actually start building homes.... given tenure was then more secure as tribal warfare became a thing of the past.

[@accessaryman]

as to the building consents, what makes maori think they are exempt from the resources and building consents, if they own the land they can build so long as they do it the same as everyone else, who wishes to build on the land they own, this is one of the things they asked for in the treaty, to be part of the wider society of new zealand .

[@medit8iv_native970]

Go and learn what tinorangatiratanga is before you speak about this, I don't think you understand the concept

[@ericboxer3053]

Nz should stick these people on crap reservations like we did in the states to the Indians...we never hear a peep from them anymore

[@medit8iv_native970]

@@ericboxer3053 😂😂😂 come and try Eric, you realize the British army couldn't beat us with guns and cannons right. You're a 🤡🤡🤡

[@ericboxer3053]

@@medit8iv_native970 🤣🤣I think getting colonized means you lost

[@medit8iv_native970]

@@ericboxer3053 it's called a treaty because the British couldn't get a defeat. Think your living in a fantasy

[@user-dv6rr5ld4m]

If you have inherited a certain amount of land from your parents I don't see what the problem is building on it after all it is yours.

[@chchwoman9960]

Seems rather unfair for those who don't inherit

[@maljohn1414]

YOU DONT OWN THE LAND.

[@kiwimarkla]

Do you own the land

[@josephkereopa5606]

manawhenua shouldnt pay rates its our country stolen by pakeha

[@loubrooks3344]

It’s no different than Russia doing what there doing now

[@pietdebeer7972]

I started watching this with an open mind. Two minutes in and she starts talking about 'the taking of maori lands'. Most of it was sold, not 'taken'. Watching the gang member say 'we're tangata whanau' so the law doesn't apply to us says it sall...

[@grizzz6884]

but at least we get learn how the law works , what got was me was how some of the deals have been done . a good look into honi hika got up to just before the treaty , needs to be talked about

[@LUAPIGNAR]

Take a history lesson on land wars..then your mindset may change. Gate Pa for a start..

[@davethewave7248]

The reason for low incomes and poor housing had much to do with the cultural differences. Maori found it difficult to compete with the commercially driven Europeans. Some of the government wanted to protect Maori interests here, but many Maori resented this... wanting instead to be free to alienate their land if they so wished. A lot has to do with the cupidity of the chiefs at the time on the one hand... with the aggressive pushing of the land courts on the other. One way or the other, most land was going to be settled by Europeans.

[@marybrown2559]

Anything in a box is fake

[@marybrown2559]

The N. Z corporation, funded by the feds too?

[@MartyT]

Promoting racism

[@elisabethnicodemia6838]

The lord God is not a God of chaos and confusion.

[@thingme9941]

When the colonists arrived Maori inhabited 10% of the land.

[@medit8iv_native970]

Because we understand governing an eco system, you don't live on all of it ya dodo

[@chastautoko7177]

Had to, we respect the Whenua , until pakeha came and destroyed most of it, along with most of the wildlife. Never trust pakeha, most of them anyway.

[@thingme9941]

@@medit8iv_native970 You're dead right. If only the buggeryahs had have turned up earlier with their blankets which would have been worth their weight in gold things could have been so much better for the eco system especially the dear ol' moas.

[@medit8iv_native970]

@@thingme9941 🤣 not tryna talk about moa when your people have ravaged the whole earth, you don't have a place to speak.

[@utubermax]

@@chastautoko7177 Rubbish. That's why much of NZ native bush was razed by Maori. The simple fact is, much of the land was uninhabitable, or not conducive to supporting native subsistence lifestyles that, and the constant waging of war and the exacting of utu wasn't good for population levels either.

[@gavincarey4782]

HA LOST 95% OF YOUR land for guns n booze

[@savedbyjesuschrist180]

Maori wanted the europen to come to Nz they wanted to live a richer more humane way of life, Waitara and Moriori have stated that Maori are not from their linagaes, the word Mauri comes from Muaritia east of Aficia and for more then a thousand years the european, Arab and indian estabislments have slave traded them across the world, the word Maori is given to them by Queen Victora, they do not know who they are

[@chastautoko7177]

We know who we are you idiot, we are Tangata Whenua, you dam overstayer.

[@reflectingtrees]

Shut up!

[@savedbyjesuschrist180]

@@reflectingtrees 😂😂😂

[@erinpaul5762]

I've never read anything so fucken stupid, go back to school fool

[@torqingheads]

Quite a history about the Maori - put the Inca's or the Aztecs to shame in degeneration. Outcast as weaker primitive Neolithic people by the invading Hawaiians & Tongans (Maori were from the original wave of primitive Asian/Melanesians pushed right out across the Eastern Pacific by successive stronger races coming from the west). They were outcast on rafts and some floated up in NZ stranded for 500 years. The weaker were pushed down to the South Island or Chathams etc. So the South Island Maori (had their own language) were the weakest of the weak. They were captured and eaten as 'Slave flesh' by the northern Maori doing raids. (Well they all ate each other - 80% of Maori pre European were dark skinned easily fattened slaves farmed and eaten by a lighter skinned 'Ariki' thin wiry elite royal caste). So it was with some righteousness as well as British cunning that they armed the southern Maori who then with muskets launched a genocidal war on the north.. That plus measles & flu halved the Maori population and removed most of the elite. The British then liberated the slaves and outlawed cannibalism. The northern Maori fought with the British against the south bad west Maori 'rebels'. The Maori sued for peace and a treaty was signed that removed all sovereignty and made them subjects to the English crown where the English would protect them from each other. Land could only be sold to or via the Crown. Maori could live on their reservations with native custom but none did. The treaty of Waitangi is strikingly clear in that the Maori cede any claim and give up and die as an original society - all 3 clauses lock that in. Nothing in today's 'Maori' culture is authentic. The music - all European (Maoris did not have tonal music, the songs are missionary tunes or introduced - Poi dance is from Islands and Stick dance from old Malaya. The carvings and art - all European - Arabesques that was the fashion at the time. Original Maori had limited dash carving and no painting of objects. No written language - all the syntax & grammar plus vowel inflection is European. No technology - some lagoon canoes and wood or stone Neolithic tools. No food sources - like pigs or crops - they left that all behind, all they had was a weak inbred fox (now extinct), some rats and a weak dismal pacific yam. They ate out all the bird-life, didn't know how to farm the sea as were island people and so they turned to societal cannibalism. Today - no full blood or half blood left. No genuine tradition and almost all are offspring of Maori slave females sold to white settlers for muskets or food. -So more fake than the 'Sioux' or 'Cherokee' or 'Crow' who had at least retained some genuineness about who they were and their history. -Everything you 'saw or experienced' is Fake. A totally convected disneyfied tokenistic set of inventions fueled by a grievance culture of almost totally European people fetishing a false past bad history because it pays benefits. 'This Horrid Practice' - Professor Paul Moon, 'Behind The Tattooed Face' - Heretaunga Pat Baker, 'A History Of New Zealand Anthropology In The 19th Century' - H D Skinner

[@thingme9941]

But by eating Maori you obtained more Mana. More power. More affirmative action. Less limitations.More reliance on solids rather than liquefaction.

[@chastautoko7177]

Mate your all shit, all your knowledge comes from books written by white man lol.

[@laeniz]

So after all that...the european went all over the world and after decades of lying about origins and descripting original text into many many artifacts and books of revolution such as your Jesus and God as well, the way the european and crown has tried to eiliminate all indigineous out of this world by enslavement and murder, straight out murder....your speech really doesn't have or can come near....the CRIMINAL ACTIONS OF EUROPEAN TO THE ENTIRE WORLD AND LANDS AND HUMAN....fake?....or murderer with centuries of blood on their hands?....what one is really the problem in this world....weak???? I hardly think so due to our (INDIGINEOUS) survival against a gun chamber pointed towards your family(WHANAU)....We still here...we stole the art and made it meaningful...we stole the ways and made it clever....or we learned from those and made it our own.....get over yourself....MAORI CLAIMED AOTEAROA AND THATS THE BOTTOM LINE...GO CAMPAIGN YOUR EUROPEAN IN EUROPE WHERE IT BELONGS....IN THE CHAMBERS OF MURDERES AND LIERS OF BUILT NON CUSTOMARY CORRUPTION

[@medit8iv_native970]

Trash

[@medit8iv_native970]

Knew nothing of dna

[@williamearnshaw410]

Maori are subject to the same laws and legislation that every other citizen of NZ is subject to. Their biggest problem is thinking they are entitled to be a law unto themselves...they have always reneged on the treaty by continuing to deny they gave up their sovereignty. One would be a fool to build on Maori owned land....theres nothing unique about their land at all...!

[@sidneylewis9964]

William Earnshaw you are a ignorant subject and you kowtow to the British crown.

[@rihipaeahughes9831]

Bullshit kaue Pena korero

[@dudleydixon195]

In other words, pakeha stole the land. Well we want it back

[@user-qw8lv1te9i]

Ambassador first nation to nations NuZealand for those who need to know , 🤔⚔️🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🪖🌍