Jack Neary interview part 3 | Keep'em small #5

Jack Neary is a very accomplished benchrest shooter. He's a member of the BR Hall of Fame and has multiple records to his name.
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[@altruisticscoundrel]

Here's a secret: Vihtavouri Powder's youtube channel has a 13 part series of Jack Neary giving pure gold to help shooters learn.

[@judodavid1]

:) Now if we could just buy vihtavouri powder… All joking aside thanks, I will look it up.

[@allamerican1248]

Thank You

[@timothybutler1]

Erik, you should look at yourself when Jack is talking. You are on the edge of your seat listening, focused on his every word. For someone with your accomplishments to do that speaks volumes about Jack’s knowledge.

[@ErikCortina]

Jack is awesome. I always enjoy learning, especially from someone like Jack that is willing to share as much info as he does. :)

[@taylorbokshowan5713]

The collective internet ”load safe loads bellow pressure” Jack Neary “if it doesn’t shoot add powder till it does” lol

[@calvinyanchycki200]

One important aspect of this, these loads are in custom actions.

[@dennism8346]

Did this. Worked up ladder loads adding .2gr to eventually exceed the pressure rating in my factory action. I found a power node below and another node above max. pressure. Shot one more load +.2gr above the highest power node to confirm combustion was falling apart again. Until listening to Jack, I'd never have done that.

[@taylorbokshowan5713]

@@dennism8346 are you talking above pressure or above published data? I always test passed published data but so many people get sad, I just watch brass and primers for pressure signs and bolt lift

[@dennism8346]

@@taylorbokshowan5713 all the test powder charges are within published data. BUT, I'm theoretically at SAAMI max. pressure for the low power node. no brass issues. keeping an eye on the primers. no bolt lift problems. post-firing shoulder dimensions are all consistent. going to test the lower power node again with +/-.1gr to see if this node really works.

[@johannesjohannesson423]

Well Jack did not mention that Walt Berger (using the load Jack mention) shoot a ,165" group in match 4 in LV at 200yards in Calgary. I shoot a ,485" group on the next bench beside him. He shot two sighter shoots witch are on the same spot as the final group. Doing this at 90 years is amazing. And Jack Neary shoot a world record in Calgary a nice ,110" at 200yards, so the load must have worked! Thank you for this videos.

[@ErikCortina]

Wow, that’s impressive.

[@brettinnj]

Again, totally awesome! Thanks for the video.

[@wyattlarsen3880]

Great stuff Erik. Looking forward to the next one.

[@sgianach5940]

This is absolutely fascinating. Thank you.

[@mywereldza]

This is such an informative series, I'm learning so much, thank you for putting this together!

[@soonersteve3733]

Keep them coming Erik! Nothing like learning something new everyday 🤓

[@charleywalker2982]

Thanks for sharing your videos and keep them coming please.

[@808slimtrim]

Your content is much appreciated. Very inspiring. 💪

[@ronnydowdy7432]

Love these interviews with other pro shooters. Great information and you're bringing in your experiences. Love watching your show

[@tpalshadow]

This is such a great conversation. I really like when you talk about the differences in discipline; but the core is the same.

[@garrettheapy7254]

Love all your content. I’m not a competitive shooter and a novice reloader but love the technical depths you get into.

[@Migs3]

Excellent video. Thanks for taking the time to film and edit it and of course for positing it for our benefit. Keep up the good work! -Migs

[@cornbreadburgess1950]

Thanks much for the sharing enjoyed it.❤️👍

[@johnfrederikson2002]

Great job. Thanks. J.

[@chaddewhirst5465]

Love listening to two great shooters from two different disciplines..

[@duckslayer11000]

These are great interviews.

[@graynotescartridgebox]

Thanks for these, Erik.

[@ErikCortina]

Glad you like them!

[@wolverinekut]

Thank you Sir for good lessons 👍💯

[@daviddale3624]

Thank you both. Back in the 70s there was great debate over why a 174 Grain Sierra MHP going 2550 from a 24" 1 in 10 twist was was the choice for the military. I had little data compared to what you can obtain with modern instrumentation. I can tell you that it shot well at 1,000 yards and was an improvement to the 168 grain pill.

[@Dwayne7834]

Thanks for the video series with Jack. Very interesting and informative.

[@ErikCortina]

More to come!

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[@elfidovigil3282]

@@ErikCortinaGot a question for you. I developed a load that worked great for a long time, this last time I took it out the groups opened up I felt like I was making great shots. Do I need to adjust the load or is the barrel gone?

[@spysweeper]

This is awesome! Great interviews and ideas! I live in North Olmsted and only a beginner finding shooting as a very complex and interesting subject and hobby that you have planted a seed on Erik!!! How i wish I could meet Jack one day and maybe be his protege?? 😁🤞 You guys are amazing!

[@scottbutler2761]

WOW so much knowledge

[@richardbriscoe8563]

In short range benchrest the barrel twists are on the ragged edge of stability. In various long range competitions I believe more conservative (tighter) twists are used.

[@robertjackson1407]

Thank you 😊

[@JohnSmith-ir5pv]

If you are thinking about supporting anyone on KZbin for shooting information. This is the man.

[@radmirmetalyogi5154]

Thank you Eric and the other gentleman for this information! I love hearing stuff like this... please do more on topic ov powder charge ... Like he said... we dont know what we dont know... so just keep talking about the same thing some more please...like 8 -12 hours more plz!!! :))) Love ya Erik! Would love to meet you one day and shoot long distance.

[@ErikCortina]

LMAO Ok. 😂

[@johnknouse8846]

Had a great load for my 6.5 that was about 1/2 grain below max published charge. Wasn’t showing any pressure signs whatsoever, so I continued on up to max and just over. The max published load, was money! Same hole groups, and brass looked almost new. I’ve stopped at what I thought was a good enough load lots of times, that was well below a max charge. Makes me want to go back and try a little hotter and see if i can find another node.

[@stephenhair5501]

Man would I like to spend some time at the reloading bench or shooting range with you guys. Very interesting information that you shared. Not exactly sure I've ever seen a Hummer Barrel but sure would like to put some trigger time with one. Stay well guys. God Bless.

[@taylorbokshowan5713]

Honestly I think I might have one, too soon to tell yet. I did a ladder test, and then went to seating depth. First 2 seating depths shot .30 and .35 I said hell with it and that was my seating depth. I need to re test now the barrel has a few rounds now but it out shoots me for sure

[@planeiron241]

@@taylorbokshowan5713 .3 aint a hummer .05 is a hummer need to remove 1 bullet hole then u have a hummer

[@taylorbokshowan5713]

@@planeiron241the barrell might shoot .05 but I don't...

[@bgdesignandsolutions]

Powder pressure is the difference between drag out and push out of the barrel. Someone once told me that a bullet does not move at the same rate in the barrel. That is slows at intervals before exiting. Perhaps more powder takes this drag away.

[@robcullen9984]

Thankyou

[@TexasTrained]

Love it.

[@RayRay-zc2ed]

The paste you are talking about to clean your barrel is it, iosso bore cleaner? Also do you use their brushes or does it not matter which nylon brush that you use?

[@miguelperaza6615]

With so many gunpowder available, is the particular you use Temperature Sensitive? The IMR 7977 was tested at a low 15° below 😱 working fine only a 258 fps. Slower than normal temp.

[@miguelperaza6615]

HI Erik 🙂 , is your rifle powder , also useful for pistol cartridges?

[@rowanstrange1756]

Would love to see jacks views on reading groups ,greats knowledge

[@albertlemont5471]

Mr Cortina, Could you do a quick story time video on "hummer" barrel?

[@barrygrant2907]

Interesting aspects on powder loads.

[@TheDkd6]

Erik, what scales are best for weighing powder charge when loading for accuracy(without breaking the bank)?

[@hsharma3933]

Question for you or anyone else that can answer - if my barrel likes a certain type of bullet and bullet weight, if I run out of powder do I need to do tests with all the bullet weights with the new powder or is it assumed that the barrel still likes that bullet and I just need to work up a new load with the new powder?

[@treece1]

I shot at a match not long ago Wayne Camble was ther.

[@kenthall6584]

I’m concerned about barrel burners but I need an IDOD, amp annealer, zero press etc….this isn’t directed at you, just the general f class guy…….great series!! Keep them coming

[@ErikCortina]

Well, it actually makes sense if you think about it. We like consistency, and if you are always developing loads for barrel burner, there is no consistency there.

[@johngoodwin2768]

Hi Everyone I must have missed or was there no mention of the caliber and bullet weight :) Thank You

[@shannonnunn]

The slower nodes reduce stress on the barrel and have less muzzle pressure... No one believes me but muzzle pressure effects a lot

[@greatwhitenorth762]

A question that's been on my mind since i began watching Erik's videos; does the F in 'F Class' stand for anything, and if so what?

[@planeiron241]

we found back in the late 80's that dry powder and slower speeds on big bullets 30 cal 220 smks shot better at 1000 yds didn't get those flyers...but things have changed..Ol Shaky..diff lot's of powder = moisture content variation=rabbit hole

[@georgezink8256]

No one should tell you to add powder till it shoots good there’s a thing called max load for a reason. My friend blinks always loaded max and many of his guns were stretched beyond safe

[@justinvandee2008]

I have a question. I see most hover around 2800 in 284. Let's say lot change is 40 fps slower with same charge of last lot. Do you up the charge to get back to 2800 or do you find new node for new lot ? Love these video. Cheers

[@ErikCortina]

Speed is not a node. Different powders and powder lots will tune at different speeds. When in doubt, believe the target.

[@justinvandee2008]

Thanks Sir. I will then start over with this new lot. Cheers

[@happyhome41]

This video had the feeling of two guys with big kahunas acknowledging each other with jargon and inside talk. I got nothing out of it.

[@jaywright2276]

hey eric what do you think of hbn coating the bullets would you ever give it a try

[@ErikCortina]

Don’t care for it. No.

[@Physics072]

Its probably 90 percent gun/ammo. Unless the wind is high shooter skill has been reduced to the point that anyone can do it. Now if the gun had huge recoil that would separate as it takes more to shoot good groups knowing you have a huge kick some guys cant do it.

[@northernsky6117]

What equipment is Jack using?

[@kobuskotze3206]

I wonder who the idiot is that disliked this?? Great conversation.

[@redraiderreloading7612]

30.5 grains of n133 bet there was alot of crunch in that seating process

[@calvinyanchycki200]

It is called a LONG drop tube and a slow pour.....

[@redraiderreloading7612]

@@calvinyanchycki200 I g. et 30.1 or so and my case is over flowing almost 29.5 I'm at the bottom of the neck

[@calvinyanchycki200]

@@redraiderreloading7612 I have put 30.5........10 inch tube (grey water line used to attach faucets or toilet to copper or pex line)epoxied to my lee funnel, slowly trickled in from a film canister, fills it halfway up the neck of my PPC cases. With my reamer the base would be just barely be crunching the powder.

[@planeurable]

@@calvinyanchycki200 I use a double 10"drop tube , which means yes 20" of drop !True it helps fit 30,5 gr of N133 in a PPC case . BUT , guys , this is talking about reloading receipes : BEWARE ! 30,5 gr of WHICH 133 ? in Europe , our 2019 N133 isn't worth much past 29,5 , when 2013 required a lot more , shooting boattail bullets that had a relatively short friction cylinder , seated at just touching the lands with zero tension , in very clean barrels, in very good annealed cases with a very controlled neck tension. True , some heavier loads might mean the base of the boattail crushes powder a bit , but as we shoot them a few minutes after reloading , they won't have time to push the bullet back up - uh , yes , this actually happens- .

[@meidamx]

Get some.

[@372HGS]

@1:00 "now, if you have a very good gun and good hands, ya know you're just going to kill people" Huh? lol

[@readyalready4697]

40 gr Poke eyes out of memories. Sub 27

[@warriorrod2382]

So, your competing against people with the most money????? I heard David Tubb who doesn’t use rest or bags but a sling, shoot pretty good ?

[@ErikCortina]

Yes, they check our bank accounts. Whoever has most money that day gets the trophy.

[@Nobo35]

@@ErikCortina 😂😂😂

[@planeurable]

about hummer barrels being an "anomaly" , lets remember a barrel is defined as a blank that has been chambered ( centered both sides on a lathe ...) , tenoned , threaded , bored , and finally chambered , cut to length , muzzle crowned or faced ....blanks might be brothers in lot numbers , chambered barrels are the result of the gunsmith's hours of work ( in BR often the shooter himself ) : the work might not succeed exactly the same every time . Indexation of the muzzle vector in the vertical plane being often skipped ( or impossible, or forgotten ) a blank might become a hummer by pure thread luck ... I know for a fact that great shooters receive selected blanks from the barrel makers ( selected maybe by the guy who makes the final bore polish ...? ) and that they have tried measurements methods to presume a blank will make a good barrel ( needle comparator on the lathe to measure groove/lands shape regularity for example ) , but this seems to be a waste of time . Chambered barrels might produce a better BR shooter career if the chambering is done always with the same shooter owned finish reamer , by the same gunsmith with the same ( Gritters) method , also because the chamber-custom FL resizer will always produce predictable resizing , same with chamber specific seater . I would like to hear great HOF shooter-great gunsmith-succesful dealer Lester Bruno's take on blanks evaluations vs barrel results .