Jack Saves Young Gay Boy from Bullying | Will and Grace | Comedy Bites Vintage

[@jcs1025]

Yes it’s somewhat a caricature, but kids like this exist, and need our love and support. I was one of these kids in the mid 80s (without the purse), and bullied mercilessly.

[@DKSanX]

Yeah this is why we need lgbtq lessons in schools. Many kids may not act like jack and john but many more still get harassed and tortured for being different. Once you let bigoted parent teach the youth itll take many more decade before kid like yourself or jack can live happy lives without fear.

[@randommusings48]

I was 12 and it was my first day at a new school. Somehow he knew I was gay and proceeded to take off my shoes and threw them over the fence. He was my bully until I left high school (which I never completed). He died in his sleep a few years ago and I never got to tell him how much he made my life miserable. I still have nightmares (just turned 39) about being bullied when I'm really stressed... something about feeling helpless seems to trigger those nightmares.

[@lanetower3411]

@@randommusings48😢

[@jjs1990]

@@DKSanXWhat exactly would the lessons cover?

[@PKFl4sh]

@@jjs1990 "Hey, sometimes other people aren't like you. Some boys like boys, some boys like girls, some boys like both. Some boys like to wear skirts, some girls like to wear pants. Some people were born as girls but grew up to be boys." That's about it.

[@jatticusfinch9015]

I think the best part of this is when Jack says, ‘I’m not getting into that with you, you’re like 10!’ His boundaries are well defined and he gives great general advice without condescending or being too flagrant. Chefs kiss Jack.

[@jimmyjohnsonjnr]

He's fictional!

[@jatticusfinch9015]

@@jimmyjohnsonjnr believe it not we tell fictional stories to describe morals and situational ethics of the day. Jack sure is fictional, but that says nothing about his exemplary, and admirable method of dealing with this situation. Fictional characters have the power to save us, if we are to be saved at all.

[@gadfageyar]

Karen is the aunt all little gay boys need

[@NH-tb2sm]

Not just gay boys, she's the aunt everyone needs.

[@xxkarlosxxxxxx7233]

Omg I would love an aunt like her... Rich, fabu, and a betch 😂😂😂 can u imagine having such a queen for a cool aunt like that... She would be the aunt that would spoil me cause she never had children and I would the gay kid she wished she had 😂😂😂 also I would compliment her on her sick clothes, shoes and how great she looks and is ...

[@jamesmcinnis208]

"You comin'?"

[@lanetower3411]

Karen:” what are you looking at?” John:”your shoes” Karen: “They’re good right?”

[@retroguy9494]

I like 'em. I think women look hot in pumps like that!

[@Phoenix-x8y]

"See ya soon McFairyland." 🤣🤣🤣🤣 I love Karen. I wish I had aunt like her.

[@jamesmcinnis208]

I wish you had an indefinite article.

[@Phoenix-x8y]

?? @@jamesmcinnis208

[@Romy---]

@@jamesmcinnis208 I wish you were fun at parties.

[@jamesmcinnis208]

@RomySwiss I wish that you'd stop fantasizing about me.

[@heathermetz3974]

0:48 “Hey, hey, hey! Give him his backpack! The purse is mine!”

[@tigergreg8]

Don't you wish you had a Karen, a good Karen like this one, in your life.

[@NH-tb2sm]

Now that Karen is a bad thing I wonder what they would've named her if the show just started airing.

[@tigergreg8]

@@NH-tb2smLOL. That’s a very good question. 👍

[@Brandon-lw1wx]

@@NH-tb2sm Karen isn’t a bad thing. It’s been turned into a bad thing by hypocritical lefties.

[@carenlettofsky3045]

I DO have one - me. ;)

[@tigergreg8]

@@carenlettofsky3045 😂.

[@justicierodelaliga]

I was always bullied. Of course, as an adult that changed. Then once I went to a little cousin birthday (she really liked me) and I saw little boy by himself in a corner. I had to tell my cousin to go to him and made him feel welcomed...which she did. ...I felt, for that moment,as that bullied kid and, at the same time, since I grew out of it, empowered enough to do something about it. It was a weird feeling.

[@ameliabedelia7018]

Can we be friends?

[@justicierodelaliga]

@@ameliabedelia7018 Thanks. :)

[@llcooljay520]

I see a renewal of anti-gay bullying in schools and it makes me so sad.

[@Vero2yu]

@@ameliabedelia7018 Why do you not go out in the real world to seek out friends?

[@retroguy9494]

I was always bullied too. However, as an adult, that did NOT change. I was bullied in the workplace too. For YEARS! I had no 'little cousin' who liked me because all my cousins are guys. And THEY used to bully me too! Outside of a couple family funerals, I haven't talked to them in close to 30 years.

[@shadowking1380]

This was jacks “torch passing” moment

[@apriltorres3684]

I love Jack for sticking up for the young boy and giving him good advice. I have a habit of trying to watch out for bloopers in movies and tv shows and I saw one. Jack had grabbed the purse from one of the boys then laid the purse down on the table. The next scene shows the purse upright 😅

[@addeenen7684]

I think every kid should get a coin for summoning a Karen-Jack ghost. One spirit to help them through the loneliness phase of their childhood, and/or to just have a lot of fun.

[@mujiescomedy279]

2:15 awww John copying the way jack was sitting cause h started to look up to him. Or maybe it was to show they were similar. But I also like the idea that it was cause he looked up to him

[@blakemrolfsensanchez547]

I can't believe that Todd was played by Penn Badgley. That makes me feel old

[@jonathanl9229]

Omg I can’t believe I never noticed that

[@blakemrolfsensanchez547]

@@jonathanl9229 me either

[@anthonycompton3213]

I remember this episode. It's one of my favorites.

[@TonyLeadholm]

Great scene. Both hysterical and topical. Back when the show could convey its message without being overtly sanctimonious. This episode in particular was extremely well done. 👍👏👏

[@greggi47]

This was one of the few eps of the show that I watched. I had some happy tears then, and again all this time later. Thanks for sharing such a good memory.

[@JohnDoe-1956]

Karen is right. He would learn a lot more over martinis at the Palm.

[@lanetower3411]

You comin’?

[@misterj3133]

That child actor did a good job.

[@jacksparrowismydaddy]

it's like he got out of a time machine and met himself I'm dead lol

[@flenif2247]

"....with bloated shoes and bad marriages " Never were truer words spoken. Lol

[@spiritualempress6691]

Omg this takes me back to highschool drama class. The guys would try to hide that they were gay and it was truly the only space they didn’t have too. Our dressing room was co-Ed for performances so we’d all change together and the jocks would be like “holy shit you get to see all the girls basically naked?!” They’d go full gay and be helping us with our costumes. Had a blast 😂

[@Mike-rk8px]

When I was in high school (1981-85) I was on the swim, which turned out to be gayer than the drama or glee club.

[@Satawolf]

​@@Mike-rk8pxFACTS

[@retroguy9494]

@@Mike-rk8px I was in high school part of those years. I wish I knew you back then. I bet you were HOT! 😜 Most swimmers usually are.

[@YouTubeallowedmynametobestolen]

"Hi, I'm Jack." "I'm John." Considering that Jack is usually a nickname for John, ...

[@basicindiebro]

I just adore this show

[@jessicashniderman4413]

Go, Jack! Way to stand out against injustice!😊

[@mustlovebooknerd]

This is S2 episode 9 not episode 3. Also, the bully who hands John the purse...is Penn Badgley (from Gossip Girl and YOU). Mind blown!

[@rachelh2731]

1983 is the year I was born baby. Turning 40 in October! Love you Jack ♥️🎆

[@rachaeleigh]

Who said she doesn't have a mothering bone in her body 🤣🤣🤣

[@cwolf201]

the funny part is I read that in her voice lol

[@rachaeleigh]

@@cwolf201 I'm dying 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@kennethsmith9301]

I lost it!🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@charmedlibra927]

" This is my nam men!"🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@gyufrtsgftrs436jjg]

My bullying started in 4th grade - being a ballet dancer and figure skater. All my bully's ended up being very unhappy.

[@maxhalsted5381]

Having the last laugh is good feeling. One bully from my grammer schools days is doing 25 years in the Colorado State Pen, another one had a future pissed it all away and other total looser.

[@romyr6846]

the one that plays the big bully is little Penn badgley... same face...

[@amariebloom]

I see

[@stephenfermoyle4578]

OMG that was amazing..i had never seen that one before.

[@MarthaMansbridge]

I’ve seen W&G a million times and I genuinely cannot remember this scene at all!?!?

[@oscargr_]

I had exactly that. It's from S2E9, which I did watch. Getting old 😅

[@justpabs_]

wait a sec …. IS THAT BULLY PEN BADGLEY?!

[@Ilikebunnies-metoo]

I'd like to believe that this scenario with Jack could work, but I know the little kids would probably just roast him back 😅😅😅

[@retroguy9494]

TODAY they would, yes. But you have to remember this was back in the '90's. Things were different then. People weren't as hateful as they are now.

[@samuelswidler4863]

Fun Fact, 0:52 boy in white shirt is Penn Badgley, aka Dan Humphrey and Joe in YOU

[@joanczarra-jn8ov]

Anyone with a heart would do the same. There are more of us than Hollywood would have you think!!

[@susivarga7303]

Hollywood makes one think we cannot leave the house without bumping into one.

[@InvasionAnimation]

@@susivarga7303 You can't. 1 in 10 folks are gay so if you see 10 people you likely saw one.

[@InvasionAnimation]

I don't think so, I feel like there are a bunch in recent movies.

[@susivarga7303]

@@InvasionAnimation Stop lying. You don't get to 10% even if you include the mentally ill and the brainwashed youth. 10% - never happened. Stop believing your own hype. Thanks to your transit buddies, you'll be forced back into the closet soon. Well done.

[@edwarderdige6892]

Just classic ✨️✨️✨️

[@dallasj244]

3:03 so cute! LOL

[@wordscapes5690]

Nowadays, you don’t DARE suggest a kid might be gay or you get called a “groomer”. We have regressed so.

[@aaroncallahan119]

From the same straights who sexualized things about their kids.

[@mihneapopa8856]

We need to protect (gay) kids. Those are the ones that need protection!

[@ModestNeophyte]

i was bullied so much in school and.. unfortunately it's affected me to this day

[@retroguy9494]

You're not alone dude. I was too. It has SUCH a traumatic effect. Especially when you don't get a chance to grow socially in school because of the bullying. Now I'm just old, sick and all alone because most of my family is dead now.

[@drjanines3301]

So sorry to hear that. It's NEVER TOO LATE to reinvent yourself + be proud of who u are ❣️

[@retroguy9494]

@@drjanines3301 That's just not true! Society looks down on age. The older you get, the harder it is for just about everything in life whether it be making friends, changing careers, etc. In the case of gay men, age is the worst thing possible because they have made it into a youth oriented (as well as looks) society. Jack was the perfect example of this in the show.

[@kevinlang7510]

When he said FABULOUS I almost cried it was at that moment when he felt validation and exceptance more of this humanity definitely will make some of that evil GOP burn at the stake hahaha

[@kentburrell3419]

Ms. Walker is wild..you comin..😅😅😅

[@20mymysf]

When I say this episode helped me when I was a kid…

[@Starting_anew]

@gypsyrock thanks for your response but it’s not interpersonal drama that has me comparing life to high school, more so that the world is incredibly predictable and straight out of central casting. We already know who is popular who is favored and disfavored and the level of superficiality is even more intense post high school. I have yet to be surprised only disappointed at the level of banality we succumb to, friends or no friends I’m afraid. Indeed perhaps we had radically different high school experiences where we existed in different circles and therefore perceive ourselves and our surroundings differently.

[@francois928]

That's .. Penn Badgley 😮

[@sayakchoudhury9711]

I was bullied mercilessly for being a bit effeminate. However, I always fought back, with tooth and nail and whatever sharp or pointy writing equipments I could find. It didn't always stop the bullies but did give me some control over the situation and them some nasty scars.

[@drjanines3301]

Violence is never an option. There's creative ways ESP hanging out w/ ppl u like + admire + vice verse. Honesty + integrity are yours for the having ❣️

[@aileenquiroz4453]

I can believe I forgot about this episode. 😂😢😂😢😂😢😂😢😂😢😂😢😂😢😂

[@Victrola66]

Dan Humphrey was bully, why am I not surprised 😂

[@Hugo_Corrales]

Is really him?

[@DavidKen878]

@@Hugo_Corrales That's really him lol

[@Lillypad-ix7sv]

I can’t believe that’s him! So cute!

[@NotAFanOfHandles]

0:10 Okay, everyone laughed when he said he was having PTSD, but C-PTSD (childhood PTSD) is very real and for him it really could be like 'Nam. He started pretty well with the kid, too bad it seems like he trauma-dumped all over him.

[@penboyasgod6103]

Cute kid and he played it well.

[@FrederickJones-bi1fv]

Mc fairland 😂😂😂😂 Karen is too much 😅😅

[@simonbridges3835]

😂 I'm not gay but I dearly wish a (THE) Karen had invited me to Martinis when I was 10 😊❤❤❤

[@LunarSault23]

1:06 absolute mood

[@LarryBanks85]

Wow I love this!

[@chimchim_888]

This is beautiful ❤

[@kennethsmith9301]

Absolutely so

[@matthewlimbery1470]

"You comin'? 😆😆😆😆

[@IsupportVehicles999]

Nice!

[@jamesha175]

isn't that biggest bully one of the boys from Tim Allen's show Tool Time?

[@karlrambles]

No, it's Penn Badgley. It does look like that other guy though

[@heru-deshet359]

If kids were really taught and learn American history this country would be a better place.

[@aarongutierrez1597]

Is that school “The Nanny’s” house?

[@brianno27]

We all need karen in life haha

[@benwakefield93]

It's season 2 episode 9. Not episode 3

[@ukgurl1000]

Is that penn badgley?

[@matthewkingwill7711]

LITTLE PENN BADGLEY!!!

[@Mushroom321-]

The nastalgia of the sound of vhs ¡ 😮😮

[@maryjoness2898]

I suspect I may be on the spectrum. I can t always tell when someone is kidding and am not overly in touch with my emotions.

[@IslanderloverBKK]

Is there a way you can see a doctor? I work in the psychology field and though I can extend help to you pro bono, it's still better when you can have a face to face with a doctor.

[@kenlundmich]

That is so 1983…and 1993 and 2003…especially in the Midwest.

[@maxhalsted5381]

How would you know

[@kenlundmich]

@@maxhalsted5381 bullying never goes out of style in the Midwest

[@maxhalsted5381]

@@kenlundmich are making a unproven considerable assumption or have you actually live there

[@kenlundmich]

@@maxhalsted5381 lived in the Midwest, my entire entire life. I was bullied in junior high, I was bullied in high school. I lost a job once when my supervisor found out I was gay. In 2010, I went to the emergency room after being beaten up by three guys because, and I quote, “God hates fags”. I concede that I am probably biased, but I believe I meet the qualifications for a subject matter expert. Bullying has never gone out of style in the Midwest.

[@maxhalsted5381]

@@kenlundmich firstly, I apologize for what you went through. Secondly, most people especially from the coasts make cetian assumptions about about fly-over states. That is why I asked. Hope you understand. I lived in the Midwewt entire life as well. As for bullying either you stand up for yourself or take it. Granted that is easier said than done. I get that. Being bullied as child sucks, I know form personal experiences and one has to get over it. Then move forward and yes I am fully aware that is easier said than done.

[@spaceo8568]

I've said it before and I'll say it again, gay men make everything better.

[@Markthewolf23]

American history being better skill than dodgeball….. sure

[@jeromelombardo6053]

THis would be band in Florida the swamp of the USA.

[@craiggallup5706]

It would. Those fascists would call it grooming.

[@TMIDiva]

Those bullys are now representing us in congress and want to disenfranchise these kids.

[@retroguy9494]

Or they're cops!

[@billybassman21]

No they just don't want them chemically castrated at 12.

[@drjanines3301]

​@@billybassman21why do u watch then don't learn a thing ? Amazing

[@juicyfruit8640]

"what's with that hair?" he better not be talking to the black kid. His hair is beautiful and perfectly fine and he has no place to criticize it.

[@oscargr_]

That's exactly why Jack is saying it.. Jack is jealous.

[@joesix-pack4022]

Scolds kids for teasing gay kid. Makes fun of kid's hair. 🤔

[@vicdog4440]

More like “shows him how it’s done, and not just take the bullying”.

[@jamesalexander5623]

it's what we do!

[@joesix-pack4022]

@@vicdog4440 So if you're being picked on, make fun of the other kid's appearance, I get it now, thanks!

[@vicdog4440]

@joesix-pack4022, why do I get the feeling that you’re the proud father of one of these types of bullies.

[@jamesalexander5623]

@@joesix-pack4022 You'd rather have a Fist Fight? ... maybe you can make him Laugh and become Friends, if you're witty enough!

[@KBAFourthtime]

Doesn't that woman know Jo(h)n is not even old enough to drive a car, let alone drink anything alcoholic?!

[@Kaia6485]

It was a joke but she wasn’t wrong. Public school just trains kids to be good little worker bees and follow the rules for people like Karen.

[@bluekitty3731]

Oh please, Karen has her own driver!

[@kyraspikes7542]

It was just her way of saying, "I see you kid. I'm the type of best friend you have to look forward to when you grow up." Notice she says this after yelling about not wanting to be bothered with kids. She can't go back on it just because she noticed an interesting one. That wouldn't be Karen-like, would it?

[@thomthom6268]

Of course. But she's grooming the kid to be an alcoholic straight person, like her!

[@lanetower3411]

Why would she care? She’s Karen Walker. And she is fabulous. Don’t you understand humor?

[@danywolf13]

is that a young penn badgley as one of the bullies.

[@genghiscan2918]

Not just any young gay boy, but a young Penn Badgley

[@peter0010]

Penn Badgeley is the bully.

[@jbrisby]

It was a more innocent time. How could we have predicted that the gay kids would grow up to be the bullies?

[@pdouglas3866]

??

[@geraldn.6871]

Too bad the reboot went radical left

[@moneylover318]

The original show was accused of being too left

[@oscargr_]

​@@moneylover318The original show was progressive but more in subtext. The reboot was very directly, more explicitly left.

[@moneylover318]

@@oscargr_ I feel like the new show went to preachy. I wish they kept t The end from the original

[@oscargr_]

@@moneylover318 I was sooo looking forward when they announced.. but I hated it when it was broadcast. It was a betrayal of the original.

[@ijansk]

Today that gay kid would be talked into transitioning 😕

[@sammylamsu5178]

Nope! Gender dysphoria is a thing and you cant fully transition until your 18

[@damianarlet6179]

No

[@lizanna6390]

Why? He didn't express any discomfort with his gender and it's only implied he could be gay.

[@Gologo7]

3 yrs later Jack kidnapps and bionks the kid...and starts to recruit all the kids younger friends to slaves at his gay parties...🥳

[@jbrisby]

I don't know how there are still people who believe that some kids are born gay. This is about as obvious an example of a learned behavior as you can get. Gay is a subculture that appeals to a certain kind of person, who for lack of a better term, I'll call 'assholes'.

[@pdouglas3866]

I don't know how there are still people who believe that some kids are born straight. This is about as obvious an example of a learned behavior as you can get. Straight is a subculture that appeals to a certain kind of person, who for the lack of a better term, I'll call 'assholes'.

[@Call-me-Al]

If you think being straight or gay is a choice, then you're not straight at all: you're a bisexual in denial. Straight people don't have to struggle to 'not be gay' the same way gay people can't make themselves straight. There are many kids who desperately attempted to try to force themselves to be straight and it unsurprisingly didn't work and they killed themselves because of it, back in the 80s and earlier. It's not a lifestyle, it's an orientation. "Gay subculture" is safety through numbers that they were forced to create because of your kind of people and worse. How the heck are you not a confused ghost from the 80s with this outdated attitude.

[@markbradleywest]

Feels like I'm watching the beginning of a gay groomer's dream.

[@tomforsythe7024]

OK groomers.

[@DavidLS1]

Gay kids don't have to be 'groomed' to be gay.

[@tomforsythe7024]

@@DavidLS1 Then why do you persist?

[@lanetower3411]

@@tomforsythe7024why don’t you just them be who they want to be?

[@tomforsythe7024]

@@lanetower3411 Tautology.

[@sammylamsu5178]

The weakest argument here

[@Tubalcain422]

Isn’t that boy too young to have sex with men? When did we start giving permission for kidsto have sex?

[@moneylover318]

He was getting picked on for being gay. Jack is trying to make him feel better. They never talked about sex.

[@DavidLS1]

What a stupid comment!

[@dr.g3860]

Who said anything about having sex besides you?

[@domobject]

Did we watch the same scene? The one about bullying, play-writing and an adult stepping in to protect a kid? The one that did not mention gay sex, nor alluded to it once? No? Actually... the scene DID allude to sex, but in the context of a kid giving birth at the prom. Funny that didn't bother you...

[@lanetower3411]

How in the world did you see anything like that???