Jack White to release "Camille" a lost Prince Album (My Reaction)

[@PressRewindPrinceLyricsPodcast]

As a vinyl head, that’s the only reason I care about this release - to get a physical copy of Camille. I like the idea of the Estate outsourcing some low hanging fruit like this so they can focus on bigger projects. So I’m with you on it not being an Estate priority but still wanting this release.

[@PrincesFriend]

That’s very fair, good points!

[@sebastianstark8517]

Agree with all your points on why we don't need a "Camille" album. Since we already have access to all those songs, I'd much rather get songs that haven't been released yet that are just idling away in the vault. I like vinyl and have a few Prince albums on vinyl, but the most important aspect to me is having access to as much of Prince's entire catalog as possible.

[@josebrown5961]

Just saying…Me too. I have been a Prince fan since Soft And Wet came out when I was a kid. I bought all the vinyl as it came out. I bought “Good Love” on the Bright Lights album, and the rest of the songs came out already. I have been a fan from the beginning, all I need is vault stuff.

[@beachlife8367]

Yes, I agree 100%. I'm so over Purple Rain Megalopolos Release version 15. Let's face it: the vast majority of Prince music is going to be purchased by his current fans. You have to appeal to the target audience and give us new music. Purple Rain was good but it's almost 40 years old. Prince made tons of music after that time period. Give us the new stuff

[@douglasrasmussen3696]

I see it as a record day release. Not only is White an advocate for Vinyl, he's done special LPs for that event. This seems tailor made for that, as it's going to appeal to collectors (which isn't me: I'm a digital music guy). I'm a big fan of Jack White, & he's expressed his admiration for Prince a number of times over the years.

[@andrewmaysonet9651]

FYI... I have had a version of Camille and Housequake was a different version that I hope is on the new release. Good to have.

[@stefaniesharp1060]

as a vinyl person, I'm pretty excited about this also the only qualm I have about the playlist route, and it's not really the biggest deal but just a little nitpick, is that each of those individual tracks were mastered and balanced in completely different contexts and not mastered/edited in such a way to be intended as the cohesive experience that a true "Camille" album would be like maybe this is an audiophile type thing, but the slightly different masters and slight difference in sound kinda conceptually bothers me just a little bit, that it makes me excited to actually experience the way it was supposed to be, instead of just approximating it with the playlist that being said, I do have a Camille reconstruction playlist that I made awhile ago lmaoo

[@PrincesFriend]

True about he mastering note

[@thechronicnoizeco.6675]

The track flow of Camille is kinda perfect. I totally want it to be an official thing.

[@PhuckHue2]

You can make your own Camille CD. Thats what I did

[@thechronicnoizeco.6675]

@@PhuckHue2 i did but i want a proper, considered and mastered version. With my copy the volume is all over the place.

[@malcolmxpanther]

You can make a playlist

[@florida_sucks]

This, I’ve been dying to hear this album properly contextualizad ever since I first learned of it, so this is huge for me.

[@lisadobbelaere4661]

My initial reaction to this was much the same as yours, for all the reasons that you gave here. I’m still excited to see what Jack White does with the project though as I see it as more of a “repackage” to celebrate the Camille alter ego. When the time comes, I may spring for a copy just to get on those potential extras (liner notes, photos etc.) that you mentioned. ALL about those liner notes and getting a deeper look at the music!💜

[@corbydaniel4256]

The thing that might make it worthwhile to me: There are tons of different versions of tracks in the vault. If they use different cuts of these songs, or different versions we don't already have and maybe haven't heard before, then I'd be excited for this.

[@PrincesFriend]

We’ll see

[@giri.goyo_yt]

That's what I was hoping for. Also, it could be that Jack is just getting his foot in the door ...

[@corbydaniel4256]

@@giri.goyo_yt We can hope!

[@seand67]

The Crystal Ball version of 'Good Love' is an edit. I got the full version from the 'Bright Lights Big City' SDTK on iTunes. My Camille disc is now complete. I am curious about the packaging, photos, inserts, etc.

[@jeffs9300]

That's the whole exciting part, that Jack White's famous new Third Man Records vinyl pressing company is putting it out. They're known for putting out really elaborate special vinyl packages with trippy designs and colors in the vinyl, holograms, special hidden tracks within the vinyl, even liquid in the vinyl, lots of really neat stuff. Hopefully he'll do something big with Camille!

[@PrincesFriend]

Then that is exciting!

[@tylerhackner9731]

@@PrincesFriend agreed then

[@jeffs9300]

@@PrincesFriend Yeah! It'll be interesting to see what they do.

[@jeffs9300]

@@Modernaire Sounds like you know what you're talking about. 👌

[@ishvallavhsi2613]

I don't have much to add to this conversation except to say that Jack White's most recent album "Boarding House Reach" is super Prince influenced so this is probably as much a passion project release as it is a rare collecters grail thing.

[@gabriels1869]

Sort of a tangent, but you know what unreleased album I really want on CD? The Undertaker, Prince wanted that released in 1994 with Guitar World magazine and WB blocked it. I think it would be great to prioritize albums like that

[@richardjohnson3638]

Having it in its full form, is definitely worth having. I have no desire to create a playlist whatsoever. It was an album Prince intended to put out. It's a totally unique concept and sound as well. I loved all those songs separately, and having the actual album, which should have been released as one, is truly something I've been waiting for. It's really one his abandoned albums that I've always wanted to get my hands on, personally...

[@randy5880]

I’m surprised Cosmic Day isn’t a Camille cut. Such a great song. Bright Lights Big City was a good soundtrack

[@jeremyandrestevenson2313]

hey randy reading your comment and this is a Q so when i watched prince 3rd eye girl in his last performance i think was the montreux fest where hes Litually wearing trainers wich was a first time see for me hehe anyways at say the beginning of this set 3/4 songs in i come across a song he was singing which id never heard before and loved it and cldt believe is not come across this track before so in this track he sings lyrics In the big city / A dirty liittle hotel room ect hope yoy know the one im asking you about so my Q is in your comment you wrote about a song that should have been on the Camille called Bright Lights Big city is this the name of that track that o talk about above.

[@MushroomVortex]

I’m super excited about it if they’re actually doing this completely true to Prince’s vision. Sure, we technically do have the album for the most part in the Sign O’ The Times Deluxe set and other compilation albums, but it would be awesome to have all these songs on one record, under one package. It’s definitely one posthumous Prince album I’m super excited for

[@sioioos]

I'm with the completists. I want this. The version of Rebirth on Camile has not been released to date. That, plus the hearing them all properly balanced and spaced would be great. I think it makes sense as a 3rd party side release. They should do the same for all the abandoned album projects.

[@hernandezZ_32]

I agree 100% with you!

[@michaelfrazia4569]

yep ...I want the artists running order as he was cutting the songs...not broken up on various albums ..Def prefer the correct order

[@newhorizonsforfifty2833]

I've wanted to see what the Camille album would look like ever since I read about it in Per Nilson's 90s Prince chronology book. A good amount of Prince's music is in the category of Erotic City--a hit song in need of an album. That said, the visuals Prince was giving at the time are exactly what made me a fan. When I was a kid, I would be in a music store or a music section of a big box store, and I would see a lot of the 12-inch singles and things from Prince, and I would just get lost inside that world of "what could the visual I'm looking at tell me about the song I'm seeing before me?" When I got older and could afford to buy those 12-inchers myself, I did and the audio seemed to speak to the imagery I was seeing. Also, I watched an Andre Cymone clip the other day, the story he told about Prince summoning him to Paisley to listen to the record (Crystal Ball), and he said that there were four records. What else is there?

[@tai5295]

Already have it, pull songs from various albums and make my own on my computer, but I'll listen too it.

[@shreedove69]

I don’t know how I am just now finding this channel, but I am now a subscriber. Thank you for the excellent content.

[@PrincesFriend]

Welcome aboard!

[@kelleyesanchez8142]

Am I the only one wanting them to focus on remastering all of prince’s music videos? I need all of these videos in 4k NOW!

[@johnbrowneyes7534]

Feel U Up (Long Stroke) was released on a 3" CD with Partyman. Never seen the long version on another release.

[@jacqueshenry267]

That being so, it would be great to have all three albums combined in one official release box : Dream Factory, Camille and Crystal Ball.

[@gezrod]

Jack is a credit and a great friend to music... his passion for it, is most definitely genuine. I lived in Music City for a minute and prior to and from the moment he took up residence in the realm, he's always been legit. #vinyl #passion #music

[@frankbrown4513]

I wonder if any of the songs are a little different from the release versions. Camillus version of Goodlove is not the Crystal Balls version, its the Bright Light Big Citys version. Which can only be purchased with the soundtrack. Strange Relationship may also be a little different. I'm just curious.

[@FunkoBoys]

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[@PrincesFriend]

Thank you! It’s been a long road but it’s awesome when we hit milestones!

[@nicholasnelson7829]

If they release the Camile album the Black Album will probably be released on vinyl and be put on streaming services because of rock hard in a funky place being released

[@PrincesFriend]

I hope not

[@لالهوةإلالهوتي]

@@PrincesFriend I hope the gods grant all your wishes…with this one exception! Gods please ignore him get the Black album remastered released steam vinyl CD and cassette

[@PrincesFriend]

Big no to the black album imo

[@beachlife8367]

Could there be additional tracks that never saw the light of day? I think I might actually want this album just for collection

[@russellharris9503]

The Camille release is great but what should happen is the reissue of Madhouse 8 & 16

[@brettblute7739]

I can not give this a bigger stamp of approval. I had every one of Prince's albums by the time I was fifteen, then Purple Rain come out, I had an E ticket to ride. I was a huge fan. Prince is the one who inspired me to start to learn how to play, piano, guitar, harmonica, bass anything I could get my hands on. That being said, I am also a huge Jack White fan. To me his music hits most of the sounds that I grew up listening to and still his music stands on its own. As I aged I listened to more punk, grunge, and rock. I was inspired by the Punk movement and the garage tapes we made and I was wished cut records, and help bands that started up, that is how we tried to do it, cheap at every show. So, in a way Jack is doing everything, I wish I had. With Third Man and his other four bands he has created and counting, I am very excited that he has that same passion for Prince, I have. I see a great deal of Prince and Bowie in Jack. I'm just happy to be down for the ride.

[@gabriels1869]

I suspect it’ll be a limited vinyl release like a RSD day thing, so assuming it has artwork and liner notes I understand why someone would want a physical copy of it (for CD and vinyl). Also, nerdy technicality here so allow me to adjust my glasses. The version of Rebirth Of The Flesh on Camille is an edit, and not the version we got on the SOTT super deluxe and remains unreleased. The version of Feel U Up is the full version from the 12inch Partyman single and hasn’t been released on any digital format (CD or streaming). Basically some tracks are SLIGHTLY different than ones widely available. Same goes for Dream Factory and the original Crystal Ball. All in all, this sounds like a super limited production release that won’t make it to the general public (i.e. streaming) and will be like what they did for the SOTT singles box set. In that sense, I really don’t mind they’re putting this out there. I won’t buy it, but I understand why they’re doing it.

[@olskool719]

Partyman had a maxi CD single with the long version of Feel U Up. It was an import. I was a store manager at Sam Goody/ Musicland, so I was able to grab it.

[@gabriels1869]

@@olskool719 Ah ok, thanks for the correction

[@TheFlawlessCJ]

I keep hearing that some of the bootleggers or hardcores didn’t like Rebirth of the Flesh on the SOTT deluxe saying it was botched I just don’t hear it it was my first time listening to it so it sounded new to me

[@gabriels1869]

@@TheFlawlessCJ it was because there was a cross fade or something at the very end. You can hear the track fade out and then it comes back in with the “original outro” meaning they probably stitched a different version onto the end of the track. It’s a minor thing but I understand why some were upset. The edit that was circulating online does sound a bit “cleaner” in that sense kzbin.info/www/bejne/d3qUYXpmm7qigaM

[@TheFlawlessCJ]

@@gabriels1869 I think because most of the P fanbase been collecting bootlegs so long they expect it to be the same when it’s released it doesn’t work like that I don’t listen or collect bootlegs cause I want to be surprised plus most of those masters are over 30 yrs old not everything is gonna be crisp clear

[@jaytrace1006]

I wouldn’t mind having that album with remixes. Also, if there were any Camille-esque vault tracks included, that would be a hoot.

[@Marah493]

Did anyone see the 11 year old video of Prince?

[@PrincesFriend]

Yup!

[@EmmaLPeel]

The combination of Prince and Jack White makes me quiver❤️💙

[@dariousharris]

If you're like me who knows how to find music online, you can ALL of these tracks on the various Prince releases. ALSO, I have seen the "Camille" on a few blogspots over the last 16 years or so. I have soooo much EXTREMELY RARE AND UNRELEASED Prince. I think that I have the original intact album and/or I pieced it together. Gotta check now that I think about it. I checked. YUP, I HAVE IT! I am sooo blessed and grateful to have an EXTREMELY PRISTINE vinyl rip of the "Camile" album. Man, it sounds great!! I'm listening to it RIGHT NOW, on track 5, "Shockadelica". It's a shame that "Camille" has not been officially released... YET. Nothing against Jack White. I am actually a very big fan of him, both with White Stripes and his solo career. Since I have "Camille", I'm not ecstatic about its SUPPOSEDLY upcoming release. However, I am happy for those who have been trying to acquire it for the past 36 years! One track that I would definitely like to see officially released is the LEGENDARY 30 MINUTE STUDIO JAM version of Prince & The Revolution's "I Would Die 4 U" (1984).

[@dgemini2]

The only thing I'm missing is the Feel U Up full-length version. The version on the B-sides was the single edit. So I think it would be worth it just for that since you can't find it anywhere else. Also, the version of Good Love on Crystal Ball is shorter than the original version which is on the BLBC soundtrack. I have both. Lol

[@dgemini2]

@@Modernaire Unfortunately it's a mini CD that most computers won't be able to import.

[@RomOakhill]

Prince recorded more songs with the Camille voice on some albums. These should be on the release too. But I also wish they give us new unreleased stuff.

[@danielserda]

I've had a Camille playlist (and even burned CDs) since the 1990s. Call me old-fashioned (or old), but that's not remotely the same as having a proper, professionally pressed and produced CD or LP. I've been musing the last few days about an alternate universe where March 1987 saw the release of an abbreviated Crystal Ball (sans Camille tracks), followed by Camille that December (rather than the Black Album - maybe some of those tracks could have been B-sides to Camille???). The downside of that alt-timeline is that Lovesexy would probably not exist, since Cathy Glover and Ingrid Chavez both have confirmed that it was essentially penance for Prince after Blue Tuesday. But, that opens the possibility that an album we know nothing about or have never conceived of replaces Lovesexy???

[@venanciahopkins5035]

I had the Bright Lights Big City soundtrack back in the eightues. I think that soundtrack my not even be in print anymore. You are right most Prince fans already have these tracks.

[@WondersChannel]

"Good Love" had a section hacked out of it for no discernible reason when he put it on Crystal Ball, and it's a really nice section that makes the song flow much better than that version does. So it's worth getting the original version remastered because the Bright Lights, Big City version was too quiet.

[@leeharrison8222]

I have the Beight Lights, Big City Soundtrack (somewhere). That was the only way to get that song in the ‘80s & ‘90d until it was released on Crystal Ball around ‘97.

[@davidm78]

Almost forgot, how do feel about this deluxe set coming out for Prince and the Revolution Live? Needed? Not needed?

[@PrincesFriend]

Unneeded…. But I’ll be talking about it too

[@davidm78]

@@PrincesFriend Okay cool! 😁👍🏽 I thought maybe I missed your video on it! The only thing I am familiar with as far as this goes is of course the VHS release which I own and am sure every Prince fan does as well. I was thinking of buying it, but I think I'll wait to see the run down you give in your video. Thank you!

[@PrinceLeaker]

How are you doing Eloy? Did you hear the news on Celebration 2022?

[@PrincesFriend]

I did! 💜

[@octothorpe12]

Yeah, for me, it's the artefact of it. It'd be interesting to have a 12" square artwork. Maybe we'll get a gatefold, but I reckon we'll get a good 180g pressing, and I'll be happy to add it to my collection, just to have it.

[@NOWtheband]

Feel U Up on The Hits & B-Sides CD isn't the same version that was intended for the Camille LP. That specific version was only on the 12-inch b-side of Partyman and hasn't come out in digital format or been rereleased on anything other than that 12-inch, so for some that would be a bonus. Plus If I Was Your Girlfriend was a very slightly different edit to the one released. You, dear reader, probably know all this but I was compelled to write this as I couldn't let it slip, he he hee! ;-)

[@MrNeosoul65]

Im kinda undecided about this. Ive heard the camille versions and the versions he released. Not to much different. I will have to give it some more thought. You are right about already having the versions of those songs. And i have the bright light big city soundtrack...got it just for the prince song. Lol

[@MzMJ77]

I have Crystal Ball. 💜 I don’t remember if I have the Black Album. I feel like I got it from a used CD store. If When 2 R in Luv is a track on there, I have it. I would like the Camille Album on vinyl

[@mike-qk1vf]

I honestly wish we would get either diamond and pearls super deluxe or love symbol super deluxe. I actually to own Crystal ball (4 cd) great album. i also own the black album. Prince we miss him. mike may u live 2 see the dawn brother

[@markanquoe2612]

Having the tracks and listening to them in that order is all well and good. You could make playlists of any of our Prince's work. But would you say that the person with the 1999 songs on a playlist has had the same experience as the person who bought the physical LP? What makes me sad is that while, yes, I want the Camille album, I want to know what the full presentation would have been under Prince's direction? What would he have wanted the cover to look like? What would he have had printed on the sleeve or in the liner notes? That's the tragedy. We will probably never know. However, if the people with access to the Vault and other archives have any information suggesting what Prince would have wanted for the rest of the presentation, then yeah, I want that. I want that real bad.

[@issacmatthews934]

I completely agree with you, this idea of releasing the Camille album it's really unnecessary except for those people who are Prince completists..As for me I'm a decades long fan who has all of these songs. So unless there are some significant extras added to this release.. I think this is a hard pass for me.

[@LadybugLuv]

For me the thought of having the opportunity to have is better than actually owning it. Somehow I've lost my appetite for own new Prince music! I get excited about the news, but rarely purchase anything. I have purchased The Originals and SOTT remastered (only because my original SOTT cd was scratched). I will buy anything with Space on it (my remix cassette broke 😢😭) and I will buy anything like an Originals prt2. But owning it for the sake of being able to say I Have It, I've out grown that part! I don't know if it's because I'm older now or that he's passed, but just hearing the song is good enough for me now.

[@Kaoruishere]

It doesn't need to be put into the official canon or something, but as a little collector's item it's totally fine - and that's the type of thing that White's label is about anyway. Neat-to-haves for the fans and collectors. If anything though I'd be more interested in a reconstruction of something like the original Crystal Ball or Dream Factory, since they actually do feel like lost albums - instead of something that Prince was pondering about for a fortnight. Especially DF would be cool, since we don't have all the transitions in high quality to recreate it on our own (and also because it's personal favourite of the Revolution era), but I'm not losing any sleep over it. But if we get a Camille then we'll certainly get those too at some point, I figure.

[@hernandezZ_32]

I would love that. I really hope that they will also outsource Dream Factory and Crystal Ball to Third Man for them to release it, or maybe release them on streaming platforms only to avoid the cost of a full production, for those that are interested to listen. There is nothing to recreate for these albums though. Michael Howe said in an interview that both of these albums were found completely finished and exist in their entirety. Its just about pulling the tapes, remaster them, and release them. Pretty straight forward if they are in good shape. Its just about finding the demand I think, especially Dream Factory from June 3 is a must-have and beautiful listen!

[@Kaoruishere]

@@hernandezZ_32 I'd say, if we're honestly getting an official pressing of Camille this early in the game, then we can safely assume that the demand for the other albums is there as well. If they can release obscure deep cuts like The Versace Experience, then there's room for the original Crystal Ball and Dream Factory as well. One could argue though that it would be more convenient to get stuff that we don't already have in one form or another, but hey, once CB and DF are out people will stop asking for them and we, as a whole, can move to other things. Like the original Rave for instance, harr! ;)

[@hernandezZ_32]

@@Kaoruishere Absolutely, the original Rave Unto The Joy Fantastic is a treasure! Though we already have CB and DF in "one form or another" as you said (😁) to have them officially in prestine quality is worth the money! You are right, when we even got The Versace Experience, we should get them too! 🥳

[@davidm78]

You made A LOT of good points and the argument you made makes total sense. I thought I was going to make a long comment but am good!!! As you mentioned, the only reason I would want it at this point is unleased photos/very nice cover art.

[@PrincesFriend]

💜 glad people get that I’m saying. I’m sure a few others will just call me a hater 😂

[@davidm78]

@@PrincesFriend For what its worth, I got no hater vibes. How was it put......Prince has so much music in his vault that we wont hear it in our lifetime.......if that's the case then definitely dont waste time on songs we already have or can readily get. That's what I get from your video. But hey, if Jack White can take this over and free up the estates hands, by all means!

[@timmeier8118]

The Camille album is incredible I have the original CD copy from the '80s all full intact and there's nothing absolutely nothing that can be compared to Camille

[@swiesemadwi]

I would buy on vinyl. You tube music totally would make the playlist. Hoping for unreleased versions and or extras.

[@m.sharon]

Quick question: are any of the musicians getting paid for these new releases? I'm assuming Morris got paid something for working on Welcome 2 America. But is The Revolution getting paid anything for the Live Album that's being released I June? What do you think?

[@PrincesFriend]

They got paid for it already, I’m pretty sure. Prince had his band mates on contracts and they got paid for the recordings whether they were released or not. I don’t see why they’d get paid a second time unless they negotiated some kind of new deal

[@m.sharon]

@@PrincesFriend oh ok, guess that's why " this is a business "✌💜

[@Pillar5770]

If they release Camille, are they planning to release Dream Factory as well? Rhetorical question. I agree we don't need the Camille album since all the songs have been released, albeit with, perhaps, different segues. Btw, Mixcloud has a ton of Prince material on it. Check it out when y'all get a chance. I am still waiting for the Prince Estate to release the ATWIAD & Parade deluxe editions.

[@bed4u2]

Thank you for the update. I did not know till I saw this. Thanks:)

[@PrincesFriend]

💜

[@Chris-ts2rm]

It is needed only because so many have not heard some of the songs. It exposes them to more of the genius and can make them part of the journey. We (meaning PFs) have heard them. Btw, I actually purchased "Bright Lights, Big City" on cassette in the 80's just for Prince's track.

[@PrincesFriend]

Eh, I still see it as largely unnecessary. We really have heard all the songs many times by this point, imo 💜

[@Chris-ts2rm]

@@PrincesFriend agreed. Definitely unnecessary with the possibility of more exposure. Then again, most of the posthumous releases so far were unnecessary imo. Maybe that's why Prince didn't release some of them.

[@PrincesFriend]

Not W2A! And honestly I’m good with the deluxe editions, cause a couple of them REALLY NEEDED the remaster you know? 😂

[@Gabriel_707]

I have a playlist on my iPod that recreates the Camille album. It sounds good. I think Prince should have released the Camille album because it's pretty unique the concept of a male singer making an album as a female alter ego and sounding like her. It would have been a standout thing and so I'm glad that now the album is probably gonna be officially released. I think it adds coolness to his discography. Then he could have released Sign O' The Times too replacing Housquake, Strange Relationship and If I Was Your Girlfriend with other tracks. It's weird that he did Cosmic Day and, a couple of years later, Partyman, with the Camille voice; but they were not intended for inclusion in the Camille album.

[@Gabriel_707]

I think it's also weird that for instance in Feel U Up the lyrics are obviously made for a male singer (beby come on, let me "Fill U Up") but Prince is playing a female role. Same thing for PartyMAN.

[@hernandezZ_32]

Camille is not a female alter-ego. Camille is male, it was confirmed by Prince himself in the Lovesexy tourbook, where also photos of the the Camille character exists (the ones with the extreme make-up on the blue background). The female alter-ego thing is a misinterpretation of the voice-pitch which still hasnt been put aside, and it is a shame that even the official SOTT super deluxe liner notes by Andrea Svensson state that Camille is female... Cosmic Day is not a Camille song, because the voice is pitched in an entirely different register and also does not match the musical style, it is just a one-off experiment. U Got The Look and Scarlet Pussy are also by Camille btw. He pitched his voice several times, also on Erotic City years before, but the Camille character is tied to the 1986-1987 period, where he started with the Camille album and ended with the Black Album. Camille is a reflection of a spiritual "division" (as Prince kind of put it), which also caused his rejection of the Black Album as he deemed it evil. This topic was explored on the Lovesexy tour where the first half of the show saw Prince's dark side (even with the appearance of Camille, with Prince introducing himself as Camille to the audience), and then his redemption after the performance of Anna Stesia into the second set. The track Partyman has nothing to do with Camille in that sense, and is just a track with a pitched up voice, the way he continued to use the technique even into the 2000's, like Ol' Skool Company from 2009's MPLSound. I hope I could clear some things up a bit and explain you the whole thing with Camille, because I see this assumption a lot that Camille is female, even on official articles from big magazines which I find misleading...

[@Gabriel_707]

@@hernandezZ_32 Well if it's true thanks for the informations. I already knew that U Got The Look, Scarlet Pussy, Erotic City, Ol' Skool Company etc... were altered in the vocals, just didn't mentioned them. Actually you're right, Cosmic Day has a higher pitch than the one by Camille. Wonder why he called his male alter ego with a female name though. And do you think Prince is playing a female role in If I Was Your Girlfriend?

[@hernandezZ_32]

@@Gabriel_707 Camille is a unisex name, and also the french version of the name Kamil that is often given in Poland and the Czech Republic. There was actually a movie character which inspired Prince to use the name for an alter-ego, but I dont remember the story and the name of the movie good enough to tell you about it, but it has a background story. Yes, Prince is playing a hypothetical female-role in If I Was Your Girlfriend, as he is asking his then-girlfriend Susannah Melvoin with the song how their relationship would be if he would be her girlfriend, in that sense swapping their roles. That track is about their relationship...

[@seanthomas8113]

U know even though majority of the songs r previously released already it will be interesting 2 have. Plus, Jack White has worked with Prince's estate before. Remember the Sign o' the Times singles box set was released through Third Man Records. So maybe and hopefully other Prince releases (also Paisley Park artists) will someday see the light of day through Third Man Records.

[@melanatedmusings6147]

"A proper, professionally pressed and produced CD or LP." That was said in the comments and I agree.

[@michaelmoraga2926]

'...and the reason is Camille'... Not everyone is down with corporate streaming b.s. Even though they may have the files, give us a hard copy... Release it! 💜💜💜

[@Sami-dn4io]

Yes I would buy it if they release it on vinyl, and add some cool liner notes like you said but at the same time we literally already have access to all these songs so it would kinda just be a waste of time and money to release something like that, but who knows maybe they will do something cool with it that we didn't expect. Kinda off subject but what I hope the estate does is gives us unreleased material from the 90s, I feel all we've been getting is stuff from the 80s due to him being most popular then but its getting really annoying lol. Yes we got welcome 2 america which was super good no complaints but i really really wants stuff from the 90s like 90s Prince is my jam! Like the whole deluxe on the Syracruse concert thats being released is very cool, don't get me wrong but I feel like we are just getting repeats and they're doing it because they know they will get the money for it due to that being one of his most popular concerts and time eras, its just kinda dissapointing. I hope someday for a Diamonds and Pearls deluxe or The Gold Experience one.

[@amberjohnson7585]

Hiya @prince’s friend can’t wait for you to do some more album reviews

[@PrincesFriend]

Got more coming soon!

[@TheFlawlessCJ]

On twitter, dr. funkenberry doesn’t think its releasing this year saying it’s not coming anytime soon. Also saying there’s no way they can produce 1,000s of copies by the summer, also don’t they need access to the masters to release Camille🤔, I don’t think it’s a good idea to source the songs from a scratched up vinyl from 36 yrs ago, plus I’m pretty sure P’s estate want a piece of the Camille release pie too

[@slii201]

But if you don’t have the 12” extended version of “Shockadelica” & “Feel U Up”, this is the ultimate collection to add to

[@B.Jewels]

When i heard that they were going to release Camille, i pretty much had the same reaction as you... .....OK?😏 because, i stream his albums and ,i rather stream an album such as Camille since the tracks are already out there. At the same time it is kind of exciting only because now we get to have all the tracks together rather than have the tracks split apart. I have only heard 2 of the tracks the most popular ones "If i was your Girl friend" and 'Strange Relationship" i never paid attention to the others tbh I hear what you're saying about making a playlist, but it's still better to have a physical/official copy. Once any album is released having liner notes and photos is a given, i can't imagine them releasing an album without any of that. So yeah i'm excited too see what they do with it.

[@brianinglis3805]

There are a few different mixes/versions of songs on the Camille album that are different to the released versions. I don't even know if they will do new packaging for this. I think it might just be released like the test pressing with just the white dust jacket with label holes or maybe the homemade cover where Prince drew the "smiley" face on a plain sleeve.Oh and it might only be a limited edition run (1,986 copies perhaps?). We shall see.

[@B.Jewels]

@@brianinglis3805 I don't know of any other versions. The only one that i thought that's different is 'If I was your girlfriend" It will be interesting to hear the different versions. Yeah i heard Prince drew a stick figure or happy face for the cover, now thinking about it, i rather them use Prince's homemade album, than design a new one, plus the titles of the songs are handwritten by him too, so i hope they use Prince's original cover.

[@brianinglis3805]

@@B.Jewels See my comment on this video in the main comments section (if you can find it) for the different versions of the songs on Camille & what has been officially released.

[@Sound4daMasses1]

I wasn’t aware that there were test pressings of that album out there but Yeah I agree with you plus I’m not really a vinyl guy so ehh, I have all these songs. Good love on Crystal Ball is slightly edited and Feel U Up long stroke is not as easy to find in the States so maybe that would be an incentive or if it’s in the original intended packing might be intriguing but ehh.... Maybe this is the reason the estate didn’t throw it in with S.O.T.T they could get some xtra cash for the same songs on a different format ig 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@awkwardfellow6912]

I wouldn't mind it on vinyl but I can see why prince didn't want to release it... hopefully he re-masters it.

[@michaeldulisse9657]

Maybe extra Camille tracks? Maybe they'll dig up enough for a super deluxe Camille. Who knows? Is his music still under warner or sony? If it's sony they are notorious for rehashing music we already have with only a couple of new songs.

[@PrincesFriend]

It is Sony and Legacy

[@michaeldulisse9657]

Will the estate have rights to what is released?

[@PrincesFriend]

They hold all the rights regardless

[@michaeldulisse9657]

That's great to know! Thanks.

[@TheFlawlessCJ]

It’s Sony’s job to reissue albums that have been out of print for a long time, and maybe release unreleased albums like W2A🤔, but I think WB still have access to vault material but D&P is licensed to Sony here in the States so maybe the next SDE will be a Legacy/Warner release maybe idk

[@KKMDStyle]

The Prince Estate had made a couple of releases that we didn’t need. But I guess they are prioritizing for the casual Prince fans evidenced through their continued focus on Purple Rain.

[@jovanreid6782]

Well, The Black Album still isn't available on Spotify, so I'd be stoked for Camille just for Rockhard in a Funky Place. Also, I had no idea Jack White was wanting to do this, so this is completely new news to me, and huge news to me at that, me being a huge Jack White fan and all. And yes, while I agree that no one really needs Camille, I really like the idea of Jack White's Third Man being behind it's release, as Third Man pretty much specializes in this kind of release.

[@PrincesFriend]

There are reasons the black album isn’t available. 💜

[@JeromeBenton1960]

@@PrincesFriend Which reasons? Is it allowed to speak about?

[@PrincesFriend]

@@JeromeBenton1960 watch my review for the black album. I sum it up there.

[@jan-willembavinck3650]

It's been a while, any news?

[@PrincesFriend]

None. I’m as surprised as you

[@dee1380]

I dig that background.. I wish the Estate would release some unreleased footage, & unreleased music in the vault. It seems like they scared or somethan..

[@PrincesFriend]

Did you not listen to Welcome 2 America? Not scared. 💜

[@makeyourself1988]

Maybe Prince told the estate that he didn’t want any of it released before he died and now they are honouring his wishes

[@marcusmccormick8399]

It would borderline make sense if there were some additional tracks that went into the camille character more. 1 example, and his is a stretch, but lovesexy 88 concert on bob george performance, " hello, Mr george, this is camille...." If its was tracks, songs, lines like that coukd expound on the character, then maybe. One interview I saw, maybe from 86, he said he had 300 completed songs. Maybe focus on that. The version. I allegedly have of camille was dated 8/86, so I figure it was all revolution tracks. Prince fans yrs prob more interested in those uncompleted projects. U also can make 2 albums from some of those unfinished projects as well. Also its not like camille will get any radio airplay. That's something I wish you'd explore, how come the estate hasnt marketed on the radio?

[@grooveyerbouti]

I don't have crystal ball although I do have the black album although not sure if still in print? But being older I was lucky to get CD so someone new to Prince it might be harder then again they're probably more computer savvy,idk.

[@PrincesFriend]

It’s not in print any more at Prince’s request

[@marcimarse]

Like you I agree we probably don't really needed & I'm not sure if I'm going to buy it when we really do have all the tracks! As for #GoodLove there are two different versions of this song one on the #BrightLightsBigCity SDTK which I still own I brought for that song & others Like True faith & Pump Up the Volume,And on #CrystalBall is the other version! Anyway I like you will wait to see what format it comes out on & how much there are going to charge for it and what comes with it then I'll decide on ! I look forward to your review on!

[@laurisaarinen1126]

What release are you expecting most from the estate? For me it’s Parade deluxe.

[@PrincesFriend]

I assume nothing 😂

[@davidmajors2611]

I like having all the vinyl copies of Prince. I will also buy the cd copy of this album and I have purchased a soundtrack album (vinyl) for one song back in the day like Good love. I do understand your perspective And enjoy your content thanks.

[@cn2355]

Eloy AKA Prince`s friend.please goto Wacco Mn news yestrday one of the anchors found a movie reel of Prince back in 1970 which means he was 11 years old came from a special libraries that is where this man found a very young Prince dear in a teachers strike you are in for a treat!! the local news from northen Mn WACCO

[@PrincesFriend]

I saw it. It was cute

[@B.Jewels]

@@PrincesFriend Yes he was sooo cute, the way he was talking to those reporters thou.😂 Adorable or what😄 He was different as a kid, not shy at all, he jumped up to get the reporters attention. He wanted to be on camera/ interviewed. So different from when he became known. We got a shy, soft-spoken Prince, not interested in talking much. 😀

[@brianinglis3805]

I really don't understand your opposition to this release. You might not need it. But a lot of people would like it in their collection. As for the playlist compilation suggestion, a few of the songs on the original Camille album have different versions to the released versions. Rebirth of the Flesh & Housequake segue into each other. If I was your Girlfriend omits the intro on SOTT. Good Love on 1998 Crystal Ball is a shorter remix than the Camille/Bright lights Big City version. Feel U Up is not the version on the hits/b sides album. The Camille version is the long stroke that can only be found on UK pressings of the Partyman CD single. + When you compile these tracks from different sources you get wildly different volume levels. Some of us have heard about this project since the late 80s. It would be nice to hear the Camille album in it's original cohesive form. If you think it's unnecessary then don't buy it. I suspect this will just be a limited vinyl release of 1,986 copies.

[@B.Jewels]

I'm curious to listen to the different versions,'m sure there are many fans who haven't heard them, for that reason i think they should release the album. Still not a big deal, either you purchase a physical copy or stream it ,whatever suits the person. It's nice to have all of his albums in any form, as long as it's released.

[@PrincesFriend]

I feel like I should clarify… my argument is that the estate should focus on releasing vault material. If they are outsourcing to Jack white, then have fun! It’s not for me but I am definitely not “the opposition” 😂

[@carlosbedia1914]

I own the Bright Lights, Big City soundtrack on cd and had it years before Good Love was included on Crystal 🔮 Ball , I thought it was one of the cooler items in my Prince collection, to be honest I hope that the Camille album will include more than just the test pressings. Maybe some videos that were made to go along with the release, who knows what is sitting in the vault unused from that era.

[@carlosbedia1914]

@@Modernaire if the estate allows Jack to release it then it’s a official bootleg lol, formerly of Torrance yea, you know me irl

[@carlosbedia1914]

@@Modernaire getting old, been seeing Prince live in person since the first Arsenio Hall show! I just want new songs to listen to music I’ve never heard before so if a bootleg can offer a new version of a song I know then I’m ok with it anything that sets the music free

[@madangrypanda2868]

You & I have discussed my reasons for wanting this released. I'm a vinyl head and I want it ALL on vinyl. 😊

[@PrincesFriend]

And that’s fair 💜

[@madangrypanda2868]

@@Modernaire well, if the Estate grants White authorization to release it, it's more or less licensed by the Estate.

[@tonyareed5083]

I clicked on this video because I thought Jack White was re-recording new versions of Prince material, which sounds very exciting. Until now I was not aware Prince had an alter-ego, which means I am a "general" rather than an avid Prince fan. I do however also like Jack White. White purchasing, then releasing the "Camille" album is therefore kind of a big deal, but as you say in this video... not really. If White re-records new versions of the music, however, THAT would be another story, and something exciting and worth listening to.

[@julienceaser]

Jack White got great taste in music and a amazing performer... I'd trust him with this.. his last album was full of funk... would be great to hear. but am surprised that he's pushing to do this. I would love to hear him cover some Prince tunes. Hope this happens.. love the Camille tunes .

[@sampson3121]

Listen man, any Prince music that goes mainstream that new generations and old can hear for the first time? Always a great thing.

[@Sgbtn1]

I've got the "Black album" and I didn't know it was... hard to find? greetings from Spain!

[@PrincesFriend]

Oh yeah. Watch my review for the album to get the whole skinny.

[@tylerhackner9731]

@@PrincesFriend cool

[@JorgeMTorres1975]

If it came out in vinyl then I would purchase it in that format

[@MarsX69]

Or, there happened to be versions out there which never saw the light of day...anywhere. Then it would be worth it for sure. Let's see. Just wait it out :-)

[@enoch9468]

Camille album would just be a cash grab. they should give us stuff from the vault. Diamonds and Pearls deluxe etc.. then get to the cash grabs.

[@pdk213]

Are we sure Camille's mixes/performances are the same as the releases?

[@MarsX69]

In terms of releasing more Purple Rain stuff...aren't we all still waiting 4 the 1983 First Avenue Concert..?

[@PrincesFriend]

I’m not 😂

[@MarsX69]

@@PrincesFriend Lol :-) I love it's Electric Intercourse version so much better than the official released version...

[@johnbrowneyes7534]

So the Camille songs that have been released? If I was your girlfriend, Shockadelica, Strange Relationship, Good Love, Scarlet Pussy, U Got The Look, Housequake, Erotic City, Feel U Up.....I have all of these.

[@terrata1]

I would like to see it released as long as they remaster Rock Hard In A Funky Place since for me it's mastered pretty quiet compared to the remastered Sign O The Times when i make up the Camille LP. Also Feel U Up is edited on The Hits/The B-Sides so the only way i think to get the full version (Long Stroke) is if i rip my vinyl 12"

[@terrata1]

@@Modernaire Rock Hard isn't on SOTT SDE , what i ment was if i make up my own Camille lp i have to use the version from Black Album official Ltd Edition which is mixed pretty quiet compared to the other tracks on SOTT SDE. Hope they do a remaster of the Black Album though.

[@79GUITAR]

In a class together is Prince , Bowie. & Jack White.....with Stevie Wonder in the corner.... I dig it

[@hodgesmuzick70]

I'm not a vinyl head but if that's the only way they release Camille I'll take it. All Prince is good Prince. I'm ecstatic about the Purple Rain concert release, but I hate that I have to get the vinyl to get the booklet. I've been wanting this concert tracked so I can listen to individual songs. But this should've been offered in the Purple Rain deluxe edition. I understand you're not the 80s Prince fam per say, but man it was an exciting time for us/me to anticipate each new release and to hear music as it's never been heard before from a guy who wasn't afraid to be an individual and not follow trends. But I definitely want more vault music too! Thanks for the information.

[@brianinglis3805]

The booklet comes in the CD/bluray edition too.

[@hodgesmuzick70]

I didn't read that for the 2 cds and blu-ray only for the entire deluxe, but it's OK.

[@brianinglis3805]

@@hodgesmuzick70 I think the coloured vinyl version has an expanded booklet. But to me this whole Live in Syracuse thing just seems like an unnecessary cash grab. I would rather a Parade super deluxe edition.

[@hodgesmuzick70]

Brian Inglis, I've been wanting this since it was released. I love the Possessed version on this live concert. Parade will come soon hopefully, but I'm looking forward to this live 2 CD set and the blu-ray. Hopefully it's not shabby like the one they just threw in the Purple Rain deluxe.

[@brianinglis3805]

@@hodgesmuzick70 I still my VHS copy. I hope they at least take off the stupid mirror visual effect that was put on the entirety of When Doves Cry which makes it unwatchable. I have a bootleg which has this visual effect removed (from the original source material) It appears they have gone back to this to do the remaster of the visuals (I'm hoping).

[@ulfnordwich3472]

I got the Bright Lights Big City Soundtrack. In the 80s and early 90s I used to buy anything with Prince on it I could reach. I also got the We are the World Record for the Track 4 the tears in your eyes. I liked the Version alot more than the one on the The Hits & the B-Sides Album.

[@PrincesFriend]

💜

[@ulfnordwich3472]

@@PrincesFriend And you are right, the release of the Camille is for collectors. On Spotify you can get the Bright Lights Big City Soundtrack and therefore Good Life, you don't need the Crystall Ball for that. At least here in Germany. I think this year will be a weak year for new Stuff, since it seems to be only the Live-Album & BlueRay the Estate will release, which were also on the Purple Rain Deluxe Edition. Or do you think something else will still come out this year?

[@brianinglis3805]

@@ulfnordwich3472 I agree, the live in Syracuse release just seems like a cash grab to me but wait until June to see what is planned for the end of the year.

[@karaadams1454]

I have a 2 cdset and love it. One of my favorites!!

[@petertrotman7708]

This is Jack White trying to get his 50.000 grand back for tracks that were already released. As you've said I've made a Camille playlist years ago only I've included ❤️ or $, La, La ,La, He, He, He, Erotic City and S.E.X. If you're a fan you'd only be interested in tracks that were unreleased or in vinyl form. That being said if Prince were here I don't think he'd want under par tracks released for fandom. Whoever is running the estate should be ashamed at the greed and exploitation of an artist that doesn't deserve this treatment.

[@Lindae696969]

I have the Black album as well, it’s a jewel. I am not really a Jack White fan, so I’m not sure how he will I interrupt Prince’s music. Maybe this is a money maker for the Estate? Agree, I wish the Estate would focus on the music in the vault. 💜🎶

[@PrincesFriend]

The vault for sure!

[@hernandezZ_32]

I think you are missing a very important point. Your opinion on the Camille release is the same justification that Michael Howe gave for the major and almost unforgivable omissions on the Sign O' The Times Super Deluxe set: the availability of the tracks on other albums and the assembly of playlists. That point is invalid IMHO, as the tracks as they were included on Camille are not all available on streaming services, and to collect all the CD's to have all the tracks is also rather complicated. You mentioned that Feel U Up and Shockadelica are available on The Hits/The B-Sides, which is not entirely correct as the versions included on Camille are not on The B-Sides, just the edits. You would need SOTT for most of the tracks, SOTT Deluxe for the Shockadelica extended version, Bright Lights Big City Soundtrack for the same edit of Good Love as on Camille, The Black Album for Rockhard In A Funky Place, and the Partyman Video Mix 3" CD for the version of Feel U Up that is on Camile. The Camille album version of Rebirth of the Flesh remains unreleased, the version on SOTT Super Deluxe would have to be taken for the sake of sound quality instead of using a bootleg version. Even if having all these tracks, when putting all of them together you would experience an inconsistent sound throughout. If you are one of those that can listen to the songs on Welcome 2 America that are completely destroyed by the clipping, then you wouldn't mind, but for the rest that is actually an important issue. I, as a person who enjoys sound quality and the flow of a cohesive album, cannot listen to a playlist-frankensteined Camille or Dream Factory (to give another important example), as the sound varies vastly between the songs as they are sourced from different albums. Also, the edits and versions are not the ones intended for the album. Going back to my example of Dream Factory: would you also think a release of Dream Factory (especially of the June 3 configuration, which is for me the only important configuration of the album) would be unnecessary because we could theoretically assemble it with a playlist? There are so many inconsistencies that come with it that it has nothing to do with the actual, carefully crafted and cohesive album, just as with Camille (though less extreme in that case). Think about the missing intro of Dream Factory, the unknown edit of Strange Relationship, the alternate version of Crystal Ball and Sexual Suicide, as well as Movie Star without the intro from Jam of the Year (just to name a few). With Camille it would be only the edit of Rebirth of the Flesh as far as I know, but a properly mastered and cohesive Camille that flows and breathes as one is worth the money, as it is also a historical time document. If you are a Prince fam that buys a Super Deluxe edition, you should also want a pristine and official copy of the original Camille as Prince himself finished it, IMHO of course. I'm afraid that Third Man will only release Camille as a limited edition vinyl, but I think that the estate should think about releasing those kind of early configurations or unreleased albums digitally, without the need to pay money for the manufacturing and distribution, as full-format stand alone releases of these albums would not be commercially successful. All these unreleased albums and early configurations are part of his legacy and are stunning time-capsules. I would love Third Man Records to also release the original 1986 Crystal Ball, the June 3 configuration of Dream Factory, the early configuration of Parade, and the first configuration of Diamonds and Pearls. 1988's Rave Unto The Joy Fantastic would also be amazing and is desperately needed, but it has a lot of unreleased tracks that would make it qualify more for a full scale release like Welcome 2 America or inclusion on a Graffiti Bridge Super Deluxe. As you mentioned Prince and the Revolution: Live... the DVD on Purple Rain Expanded Deluxe was a disappointment, they should have fully edited and overworked it the way they did it now in the first place, so what they are doing now is just basically fixing a previously committed error, and I'm glad they did it because that concert deserves it. It could also be a sign for a possible, and also desperately needed, Purple Rain Super Deluxe (though not for too soon of course). In any way, I understand where you are coming from, as your opinion is very common. But I hope I could help and explain you a bit the other side of those that are actually looking forward to it, as I do. I have a self-made replica of Camille that you could say is 85-90% accurate (according to princevault.com and some bootleg-copies) and all the tracks needed to assemble it, and I even remastered the whole album myself (as good as possible obviously) to match the sound between the songs. But I will gladly pay to have a legit and official copy of the real thing, even if it is only on vinyl.