Solas's Role in Dragon Age: The Veilguard | Solavellan Hell Over?

[@PFiction24]

“We’re going to help our friend, even if we have to save him from himself!”-The Inquisitor

[@MrLekorrigan]

"also we might deck him in the face if he's too stupid about it"

[@ThatFont]

Solas living rent free in our minds? I’m used to it. Can’t wait to see it happen literally!

[@LauftFafa]

sadly the original story of him was probably better . its not called the dreadwolf for a reason. the story was rewritten again like 2 years ago and Solas seems to be downgraded to a soft loser antagonist we will likely have to save instead of the dreadwolf who want to destroy the world we were promised for a decade.

[@ThatFont]

@@LauftFafa Did I ask?

[@Keram-io8hv]

@@ThatFont Nope, but this guy´s opinion is good

[@AngelWings1960]

@@LauftFafaParrot

[@LauftFafa]

@@ThatFont welcome to the internet clown. dude post a comment and expect to get no elaborated answer or anything you must be really 70 years old or something

[@mokkakahvi]

12:20 oooohhh so a "bad ending" with a Rook who has a hostile relationship with Solas could be a super hard bossfight against a Red Lyrium Dread Wolf or some sort. That would be nuts.

[@TRIKNIGHT]

Depending on what happens to Varric, this sounds like the best ending... to Solas.

[@andr0id.eighteen]

I love Rook's special connection with Solas, but I've waited ten years to make the dream of my 18 year old self come true: reconciliation between Solas and Lavellan.

[@ethangraham6035]

Same, I just want my girl to be able to help egg boy bring his Empire back lmao

[@Mother_of_Pigeons]

Same situation. Inquisition came out when I was 18 and I instantly shipped Lavellan and Solas in my first play through. I want a Solavellan “happy” ending as a potential option in Veilguard, or at least something bitter sweet. It’s been 10 long years, Bioware please feed us

[@tinaswafford1985]

I waited 15 years for my Grey Warden to get closure with Alistair. No dice. But maybe people will get something with their Inquisitor (since she appears for character creation).

[@anderporascu5026]

Dead ends and 10 year cliff hangers, jeesh BioWare, did you watch a lot of 90s shows that got cancelled after cliff hanger endings because of low ratings or ran over budget? Also this rock band breakup drama that put DAV on ice for 10 years, not cool. Elder Scrolls 6 has an excuse at least and it has nothing to do with the usual suspects.

[@renderlifestyle]

Nah, I never romanced him. I want to destroy him.

[@AquaMaryn.]

I'm glad they considered the 'players who want to kick Solas off a building'. :') I was very worried we'll be shoehorned into a mild and completely-cooperative arc to keep the plot going, offering little room to roleplay or just even play. What you theorised at the end about Solas using red lyrium to further is plan, fits very well with his prideful nature, believing himself and only himself capable of righting every wrong, and harkens back to the conclusion of In Hushed Whispers, where he refused to believe he could succumb to red lyrium. Thank you for making these videos, Jack. Much appreciated.

[@JD-Media]

I think you will still largely be forced into a cooperative arc with Solas, but you can decide how friendly you are to him. But you will still have to work with him until you reach a certain point in the climax of the game.

[@ravenpuffle]

Solas with hair is just him in his wolf form 😅

[@jungtothehuimang]

Honestly I'd be fine with that

[@dannabananna101]

Fall can't come fast enough

[@CristinaGarcia-xx4gy]

Given the gems all over Solas' banter with other companions, having him commenting on things like SAM has a huge potential for hilarity to insue. I really don't want to believe he would resort to Red Lyrium, given his aversion to Blight Magic, I'm hoping even when desperate he wouldn't cross that line. I badly want a happy Solavellan ending to exist...I don't necessarily want that ending to be easy to get, but I want it to be possible! And now I am curious about those potential younger Solas (with hair) flashbacks.

[@ivanhunter6492]

I think we will see Solas' wolf form through Rook

[@OhBoyILoveTomatoes]

I do seriously hope they put as much time into developing the Adaar, Trevelyan, and Cadaash inquisitors role in Veilgaurd. I get that the Lavellan romance is popular, but it’d be a bummer if it got separate endings than the others

[@jungtothehuimang]

I hope so too. One of my male human rogues was quite close to him, so I hope he can also get some kind of closure in the end.

[@WickedLady2010]

Also for Lavellans that didn't romance him

[@w3ndigogames]

My canon Inquisitor (who I will be going into DAV with) is a Trevelyan who had maxed out approval with Solas, he still cares for my Trevelyan - it’s brutally honest. So I hope the Inquisitor-Solas dynamic doesn’t feel lacking if you don’t have a Solavellan.

[@purplecritter]

I do think it would be fun if Solas' fate depends on both his relationship with Rook and the Inquisitor's disposition towards him. Maybe for him to be truly "redeemed" both our protagonists need to convince him, and viceversa if only one or both believe him to be irredeemable he will have a different ending. Not sure how that would feel for new players who haven't played Trespasser, but the Inquisitor is already confirmed to be a major role regardless sooo

[@ghost_walker]

I can't imagine that Mythal won't play some part in the new game, but I guess we will have to wait and see.

[@Silenthitman44]

How? She got absorbed by Solas

[@purplecritter]

@@Silenthitman44Some people speculate that she might have managed to transfer part of her essence in a safe place before he did (she was touching an Eluvian before that scene), or maybe similar to how it was in DA2

[@Drakenrahll]

@@Silenthitman44 Flemmeth/Mythal has backup plans and plans within plans. She might have given up all of her power that she had there at that moment, but I doubt that was all of it. Heck she split her soul once before which we saw the beginning of Dragon Age 2. She even referenced the ability to be in more than one place at a time. She talks about fragments of herself. There is no reason to doubt that she wouldnt do that again. Myhtal seems to have the ability see the future, she wouldnt have gone to her "death" so willingly. In her last scene with Solas in DA:I she said "I knew you would come". She knew what was going to happen. She still wants her revenge. She left another fragment somewhere. I've little doubt of that.

[@carlanovi9598]

Maybe we could consider Solas actually succeeding in the end... Just not the way we think. I mean, he is so certain that the only way to restore the world of the ancient elves involves the destruction of current Thedas. But really, we only have his word for it. Maybe there is another way.

[@Theater00jock]

I think this is definitely possible. In gameplay Solas said he took steps to limit the casualties, which would tell us that his plan no longer required the death of all of Thedas. That was his original plan 10 years before, but they've obviously changed.

[@yanderefangirl8317]

I think if he did succeed, the Elves would end up in another civil war since it’s possible that not all Elves would join Solas. Plus, Elves who have never used magic before, would likely suffer from shock of having such power and would become vulnerable to evil spirits.

[@anvos658]

The issue is there is no way to restore the world of the ancient elves, elves aren't the leaders in magic anymore and are a population vulnerable to extinction from such a massive catastrophe. Solas is also an idiot who forgot to account for just how strong the remaining ancient high dragons and Blighted Ancient Tevintar will be in a world without the veil.

[@Mother_of_Pigeons]

The games have a history of having redemption options available for complex characters who have done awful things. I hope this will be the case and a romanced Lavellan and him can have an option for a “happy or at least “bitter sweet” ending together

[@xoria2898]

Solas Silverhand moment.

[@elissahe2377]

I think his failures are because hes too afraid to ask help. I think hes going to finally open up completely and it will bring up a choice of side with him or try to convince him not to

[@NehnBellanaris]

It's not that he's afraid to ask for help, during the days of ancient Arlathan he basically had an army at his beck and call. It's that he doesn't like to be the one in the spotlight.

[@mattphoenix4702]

If you have high approval with Solas in Trespasser and you select the dialogue option that goes something like “there has to be a way to help the elves without destroying the world” he tells you he would cherish the chance for you to prove him wrong again (the first being you earning his respect by not acting like a typical [enter race here]) A large part of him REALLY doesn’t want to succeed, but his pride keeps him from both admitting it, and from asking for help.

[@elissahe2377]

@@NehnBellanaris I hope we get to see some of his flashbacks from the past to further understand him. I still think that he's afraid to ask for help from anyone because they don't understand and he's afraid to lose those close to him again so he doesn't want to open up. He also might fear betrayal from his friends, aka Varric, inky (depending), Cassandra, and more

[@elissahe2377]

@@mattphoenix4702 I swear, he knows more than what he's willing to tell. The reason I say I think he's afraid to ask for help is because he knows more than he can tell. The veil is the prison of the old gods and he in the spoiler said the prisons were weak. And we all know blood magic weakens the veil the more it's used. What if he knows tevinter will be lost but thinks other nations will be safer? In every dragon age game, we are met with a huge decision, what if the decision is siding with Solas or killing him? I would love to know how he formed it, what arlathan looked like in the ancient elven days, and if Solas's vision is possible and if not possible at least an explanation on what's going on since he's directly connected to the fade

[@NehnBellanaris]

@@elissahe2377 You forgot about Kirkwall. The veil's also weak there too.

[@LiaraGaming]

I wouldn't say Lavellan failed. Solas never gave her the chance because he knew it would be easy to let his guard down.

[@dominickwilkins2492]

I want to save Solas from himself, he was my boy in Inquisition

[@FistOfFiori]

Ahhh, 'All New, Faded For Her' - wonder if we'll get another Solas quest with an anagram of his nature haha

[@spiderz5145]

I worry about how they’re going to portray a Dalish Rook coming to terms with the fact that the Elven gods they worship and got their faces tattooed for are evil.

[@SmartAss4123]

We're not actually sure if they were all evil. Remember we only have Solas's side of the story and vague comments from Abelas

[@Felsenkeks]

Thank you! With the way you put it all together in this video, it's now really starting to take shape in my head, how what we saw from the start of the game and what they said about the theme of regret throughout is going to look like. Seems like the part of himself Solas sees in Rook is how he unintentionally fucked thing up unleashing the two Elvhen, just like how Solas fucked up when creating the veil and limiting access to magic. I can already see the free therapy from Rook (on a good path) working through that and trying to fix things rather than start over and dismissing the status quo and how that will cause Solas to reflect. I can already feel the tears that will flow during some scenes!

[@Carloscarvalho-p5z]

imagine like if solas is like the kyuubi to rook and we get the powers from him and be like a god it'd be so badass

[@sailorniburu411]

🙌 A video on Solas?! 🙌 This day just got better!!

[@annmoore321]

My question is: What about the inquisitors who aren’t Lavellan? That’s got to have a major impact on the outcome too. Would Rook then be able to romance Solas if she was elven? Would it be more or less difficult to sway Solas from destroying the world without him having an unrequited love?

[@summerrain4191]

Why do I have a feeling that one possibility that Solas/Dreadwolf Solas killing Lavellan in a rage by accident and that's the moment he realizes that it's not worth it anymore and sacrifices himself to save the world and inevitably fulfills the fear of dying alone by his own hand

[@jessicab5525]

My inquisitor waiting 10 years for Solas and in comes Rook 👁️👄👁️

[@mattphoenix4702]

At least we know the Inquisitor IS in the game. Pretty sure even Morrigan has given up on finding the Hero of Fereldan by now

[@jakobrenner2230]

@@mattphoenix4702 Honestly it's a smart choice on their part to have the player re-create the Inquisitor for this game, as they potentially have the strongest connection to Solas. As for the Hero of Ferelden, I hope they either give some lore references that they did find a cure and is alive and well or not mention them at all: if they say something like "they disappeared never to be seen again" or "they died in a random cave fighting darkspawn" it's going to feel like a massive anticlimatic let down for me (and I'm wagering many others).

[@valeriesol9720]

I have a theory about Solas too. What if by creating the Veil he also stripped himself of his power as a god to the extent that his dark Wolf identity is trapped somewhere in the Black City along with the others. So his relatively weak, but more logical and compassionate self being locked up in the Black City means that he is running out of time till the Wolf finds his way back into the other part of his being. Maybe that is why he is depicted as a monster on this fresco. Maybe Solas knew this would happen to him after tearing down the Veil, and he did not want Lavellan to bear witness... Or am I mad?

[@Light-11]

I feel like that's not going to be quite it because in both post trespasser ending slides if you romance him and I believe in Tevinter Nights its mentioned that Solas takes the form of that giant wolf in the Fades. So it is something he is able to choose to depict himself as and not a separate part of himself he cut off. it is a neat theory though!

[@valeriesol9720]

@@Light-11 so it could be a "there are two wolves fighting inside of me" situation :D

[@Light-11]

@@valeriesol9720 I'm just imaging that two wolves inside you meme now "Kiss the inquisitor-" "KILL EVERYONE NOOOOOW!!!!"

[@reddragonproductions4379]

I hope that we can redem Solas or at least have Solas meet our Inquisitor and they can part on good terms

[@highiqwarrior]

Solas wolf form looks awesome based on artwork, wonder how it will be in game. I think his story of the ritual might be only half true, I think the ritual was supposed to be a two for one, accomplishing the prison goal and removing the veil. There doesn’t seem to be a strategic benefit to letting the inquisitor know his plans, unless he wanted Theda’s prepared as a failsafe if he failed in his plans.

[@MelissaW1103]

I was 18 when I played inquisition. I'm now 29 and I need closure. For my lavellan and for my inner teenager whose heart got broken lol.

[@MicahLetsPlay]

Loving your theories! If you're right, I will cry, but in the best way. ❤

[@Russman67]

Talk about replayability. I've got an Inquisitors who loved him, liked him and drove him out. That's three ways right there.

[@thesorrow7499]

I wish they opened pre-orders ASAP.

[@HyouVizer]

preorders usually when the game has "gone gold" which means nothing, still launches with usual bugs/glitches anyways

[@LauftFafa]

@@HyouVizer they do get fixed eventually. witcher 3 launched bad , did that make those who did the preorder regret anything ? in fact its better to remove the burden sooner than later because you never know what that money might be needed for later and this is why lot of peoples end up waiting a year or more before buying something they really want just because they avoided the preorder .

[@AquaMaryn.]

An approach that I've been practising in recent years is setting the money aside and only pre-ordering a game that I wish to play on day one, when its pre-download becomes available. That way I lose nothing if the release is pushed back, if the reviews coming out are concerning, or if I decide I don't have the time to play it then or prefer to use the money elsewhere. :)

[@Seer_Of_The_Woodlands]

helping the elves in their current form is impossible to do without some bloodshed, the best way to help them would once again be to give them their own homeland, but I feel that none of the human kingdoms would willingly give that. as long as the elves don't have their own homeland, their position is threatened and because of our character, whatever it is, it hardly changes the attitude of all kingdoms towards the elves. + I think the elves have the right to keep their ways if they want. I don't care what the original purpose of tattoos was, they have a different purpose today. A real life example of this is the cross, originally a Roman instrument of torture and execution, nowadays a symbol of hope...etc etc etc... I'll probably help Solas myself, of course to see if it's possible to bring the world back to its original "glory"... "you can't make an omelette without breaking a couple of eggs", etc. it's going to be messy but "it's a sacrifice I'm willing to make".(; but if "resetting the world" is not possible, then I will help the elves in all other ways.(if possible) I think the world would be more interesting if there was an own kingdom for the elves, alternatively it could be interesting to see a post-apocalyptic Thedas / world in future games, to see how "the return of magic affected" what new threats and dangers it would bring. how civilizations would rebuild and adapt to a changed world. + technically those gods were freed because of player interference and not because of Solas. Solas wanted to move them to a new prison, the old one was falling apart. so technically it's the player's fault that those two angry and corrupt "gods" are free. Solas can be blamed for planning and implementing the end of the world, but not for releasing those gods. + "the end of the world" and the beginning of a new world would be a memorable ending and what it meant for survivors and potential new conflicts and stories is limitless. Imagine what great new threats and stories it would bring + the end of the world is not new to this world. many civilizations fell because of the Blight. Blight is like the end of the world especially the first one was like that. something big has to happen to the world, for me at least "status quo" would be a boring way to end the game something big has to happen at the end, something that points to the next game and its events. and at least to me, "the end of the world" and the "beginning of a new world" would be a grandiose way to end the game. it would be interesting to see the rebuilding of civilizations and empires and kingdoms. and so on. maybe it's forced maybe it's dictated by fate maybe the only thing we can do is try to minimize the damage it causes. maybe we could decide who suffers the most. + if it is really possible to break Fade, maybe in the future someone will try it again. maybe it's better to tear it up now and try to do it in a controlled way anyway. with the guidance of its creator.

[@SmartAss4123]

Using the fade, they could theoretically create an entire landmass for the elves seperate from everyone with access to the fade only from that land

[@lockskelington314]

Solas: Wake the F*** up Veilguard We've got a City to burn

[@genniegoose3856]

I have no clue what will happen to Solas, but I am SO EXCITED we get to hear Solas' incredible voice throughout the game.🥚❤🥚❤🥚❤

[@faithfullkadan2969]

I’m really interested to see if BioWare expands on, or will still be including all the eluvian mirrors as a way to traverse certain Elven missions or old temples like in tresspasser, possibly the knights too? Will they have any inclusion or give aide towards solas? Oh and another ball type mission would be clutch, I had so much fun at the winter place 😭

[@Kyubii01]

I just want the choices of the past games to matter. If that is not happening then I don’t care for the game. I will easily watch it on KZbin like a movie via gamers little playground

[@CrankyCat78]

While I have never romanced Solas,, my primary playthrough my Inqi saw him as a close and trusted friend, and one who understood more about what she was going through more than any of the other companions, except Blackwall (who she was romancing). His betrayal hit me like a truck. I honestly have no idea how my Rook will take to Solas - and that's kind of exciting!

[@Xwhitton22X]

Really fun and interesting vid thanks Jackdaw!! Enjoy glasto!!

[@katherinelawson6917]

Any chance we'll get a video of Solas's full history leading up to this point? A how we got here sort of thing? The refresher would be good and I can't think of anyone who'd be more thorough than Jackdaw

[@Silenthitman44]

Part of it is in dragon age the missing

[@adnanrivera7795]

I hope we have the option to break that egg and make an omelette.

[@Zaynreels27]

Great video, as always, Jack! But everyone, when's the release date? Opinions.

[@GarethOfByzantium]

Solas isn’t about restoring the Elven Empire. He’s about restoring the Elven WORLD he remembers. The Veil IS unnatural, which no one seems to remember.

[@localinfantkicker]

I hope that if rook and the inquisitor disagree, they have a physical fight and struggle, and the players can then have the option as who to play as for that moment. And whoever we pick, the camera steadily moves to their pov, and you can continue the fight

[@eddybowe2953]

I had hoped they would at least tell us how the Inquisitors party members did after all was said and done. How have they faired all these years later. It would be nice, but who knows.

[@starbuck7539]

I think he is getting a Johnny Silverhand in our head

[@amber8petals]

I'm really hoping that Solas communicates with Rook through dreams instead of a disembodied voice. We're in the Fade in The Lighthouse so that makes the most sense to me. This could also explain why we might see what he used to look like, if he's going to walk us through *his* memories.

[@yenneferofvengerberg]

My Lavellan is going to destroy him. My Trevelyan is gonna redeem him.

[@Keram-io8hv]

Nice, we are going Johny Silverhand from Wish once more They should shake hands with Bloodlines 2

[@abigails5230]

I am so excited for this! I also wonder if Cole will peak out anywhere if you'd strengthened his spirit self in Inquisition? The way my game ended I thought Cole would have gone with Solas and stayed close to him. So, I am super curious if this will be a thing.

[@Silenthitman44]

Possibly I know that a lot of people will show up in the game including the inquistor

[@yanderefangirl8317]

I think we’ll see more of Solas’ major flaws: He never thinks of a far more simpler solution to a societal problem, believes that countless deaths won’t cause any Elves to fear him more than respect him, and that the Elven Mages he imprisoned wouldn’t be looking forward killing him now that they have the chance to do so.

[@milosgagic5689]

Mate ypu should make a video explainong and exploring the lore of the 2 elven gods we are gonna fight

[@Julia-301]

I thought with rebirth the spirit loses not only themselves but their memories. If the is true wouldn’t that mean moving on with Lavellan hard if not impossible? Maybe this process is different with a god and he could keep his memories.

[@dacastardust]

I'm really starting to get the impression that there's going to be at least two endings to Veilguard: either Rook develops a positive relationship with Solas, manages to reason with him and with Lavellan/bestie Inky, finally change his mind and everyone together turns their attention to the real big bad - OR - Rook develops a negative relationship with Solas, inadvertently reinforcing his ideals and plans and pushing him even further down the road to destruction, leaving him so far gone that even Lavellan/bestie Inky can't change his mind, and he succeeds (or dies trying). I also think there will be the option to let him die alone or not. If you hate him, leave him in the dirt alone - or, if you love him, you can hold him and stay with him so he at least doesn't have to die alone (despite his actions). It would surprise me if no matter what you do in Veilguard, it has no bearing on the ending - if that makes sense? (10/10 video as always 💜)

[@anvos658]

There is no happy end for the elves to tearing down the veil as the only person who wins there is Tevintar, since they possess the most and strongest mages on the planet currently, meaning they are the only people/nation that could survive the veil being torn down. Also take a moment to think what the rest of the surviving blighted magister lords and dragon priests would be like in a world without the veil and where wielding high magic is easy. Not to mention the surviving Ancient High Dragons would pretty much be gods again with their power boosted by no veil.

[@Velanya01]

I think Rook will play a crucial role in convincing Solas to listen to the inquisitor. The inquisitor then takes over in convincing Solas to stop his plans. If that is the course the player wishes to take, of course.

[@virginiamurr3703]

Not sure how complicated it would be narratively, but I think Solas's redemption might be layered. First, it seems likely he will be indirectly responsible for Varric's death -- and there when it happens. Especially given that they've made it clear in their non-game stories that Solas cares about Varric. If you add that to a good relationship with Rook and then a romanced Lavellan, then maybe the game would allow for a redemption arc. (Sort of harkening back to ME2 here---since they layered survival of party members with multiple choices. So, I think it might be possible.)

[@katw3645]

Hmm, if Solas gets stuck in the Fade, I wonder if the Inquisitor could use the Mark to get him out of the Fade? Is the Mark gone-gone? And if Inky did do that, would it just make everything worse? Would Inky finally die from the Mark?

[@Theater00jock]

I'm not sure that Solas is even planning on mass genocide anymore. Yes, he used to believe that was the only way. But he tells Varric he took steps to limit casualties (which, imo, could be dialogue based on his relationship level with the inquisitor). That is directly in opposition to what he originally told us 10 years before. I think that we will learn that Solas's plan no longer involves the destruction of all Thedas. That there will surely be casualties as demons enter, but that once the ritual is complete he will be able to bring down the veil and still save most of Thedas.

[@Silenthitman44]

He wasn't actually planning that to begin with things went wrong then and now

[@coryanderson7631]

I think a Rook and Solas romance would actually be so interesting, unlikely but interesting nonetheless

[@AutumnHarwood]

Even though Solas is a stubborn idiot, I don't think I could bring myself to let him die if there's a way to save him.

[@Zed-zw2ks]

So, maybe Solas will be third companion, but only in Rook's head?😅

[@Rosef1re]

As sad as it would be, I hope Solas gets a tragic ending in some way. The Inquisitor dying is my personal pick. I don't think there should be no consequences to his decisions. And maybe the bittersweet conclusion to that could be the idea that him and the Inquisitor live on together - but in the Fade, not in reality.

[@GiggleMonshter]

I am def with all the Solavellan ships,just wanna see my egg romance after so long! ❤ I am also curious though how or if they'll address what Solas told us about the anchor killing us eventually??? 😢

[@janetwyning8661]

I last played Dragon Age: Origins a few times, I enjoyed it very much. I also played Dragon Age 2 one time, I did not like it so much, I hated the way Ander's character was completely changed from his most original self. I liked the first Anders, not his replacement. I also have little remembrance of the lore, and many of the characters, unfortunately. Personally I would like the "best" ending possible, but perhaps with the notion that "ends do not justify means" in mind. Also, that change and communication is often necessary for new beginnings.

[@notsosmartguy6254]

Honestly I think Exile is the best option. We know there are people and places outside of Thedas maybe the best option for a genuinely redeemed Solas is a fresh start somewhere else. Maybe even Lavellen would join him

[@NehnBellanaris]

But only if your Lavellan romanced him.

[@SomersetDrinker]

I cant wait to break this egg

[@jungtothehuimang]

I see we are both in the mood to cook his ass, glad I am not alone

[@omnibusx215]

If Solas kills varric, my rook will want revenge😏

[@savannasinai4638]

I dont get why so many people think romancing Solas isn't a possibility, or dont want it to happen. I think it should at least be an option.. lol

[@Rickus316]

I think it’s important for BioWare to give us a plethora of options to the ending of this game - options like if you are an Elf you can join him to destroy the Veil

[@thehucklebillyfenn]

If they did this, they would not be able to conceivably make a sequel taking both into account. Either the veil will always be taken down, or the veil will stay up. A branching path for something like this would literally be impossible. It would be like if Origins allowed the darkspawn to win based on your choices. They wouldn’t be able to make a sequel that would encompass branching paths like that.

[@carole5648]

i would like to know that "precautions" he took to minimize death/damage/whatever he said. And the whole thing with Mythal's well, if Solas absorbed Mythal and Inky drank the well, something must happen with that, especially a romanced Inky. His whiny complaining when you drink the well is too blatant, you can practically hear the you''re-ruining-my-plan subtext.

[@wetsanchez3765]

Is this veilgaurd the finished dreadwolf game?

[@VoinJDV]

Hero of Ferelden please Bio Ware

[@tinaswafford1985]

Right? *sigh*

[@anvos658]

Sadly they only become relevant when the plotline swings back to the Blights, and an Ancient High Dragon Awakening, whether blighted or not is pretty much an A plot by itself, though that does seem likely what DA 4 could be leading to, for at 5th game where Solas' actions lead to the remaining ones getting disturbed from their sleep, causing one to become and Archdemon an the rest to awaken finally realizing the danger their in.

[@nickgarrou5911]

He destroyed Bianca. He gotta go! Lol 😂

[@davidtillinger6543]

I've been very much against the idea of Solas getting redeemed/getting his happy ending with the Inquisitor. I intend to be adversarial with him as Rook, no matter how much the game tries to force me to understand/like him. But Jack's idea that he would end up trying to help the Dalish rebuild after the events of this game is intriguing. I could definitely see and accept an ending where Solas has to give up all of his magic and godly gifts to shut down the Fade/stop the bad guys and devote himself as a mortal to helping not his elves, but the downtrodden Dalish elves that exist now. Essentially, this would be Solas losing the thing most dear to him, his magic, as a result of his actions. This would fit nicely with the idea of his pride in his own power being the primary issue with him and would represent a loss to him worse than just dying to him. With an ending like this, everyone would get what they want, Solavellans get their romance/redemption, those who befriended him get closure but Solas still pays for his actions. Moreover, it fits with the element of the world passing on to the new generation of heroes as it removes the Inquisitor and Solas off the board as future companions.

[@Formoka]

I know the Solavellans wouldn’t like this theory, but I think Solas dying in the Inquisitor’s arms, would be kind of poetic. After all his fears and all his pain, he fails, but the worst doesn’t come to pass. He’s not alone. He’s with friends/his lover and he finally gets to rest after a lifetime of regrets and mistakes. It would be heart breaking for some, but Solas dying would wrap up everyone’s different opinions on him and everyone’s different choices neatly. Without leading to disparate endings like ME3.

[@Cathartic_creation]

I'm starting to think Solas isn't as much an expert on how to deal with the Veil as he thinks he is. He can't help but get himself unintentionally magically intertwined with some random person.

[@Silenthitman44]

Pretty sure the two elven gods did that and took advantage of rook making the prison fail and hurt them ( rook) and they used their blood to turn the prison intended to trap them in on rook and him

[@TheCrimsonOne508]

THE EGG MUST FRY

[@dylanpullock6972]

Nah. Play elf rook, tear down veil with solas, become immortal.

[@hotwildstud4838]

Solas broke varrics bow pretty sure thats a sin

[@Cbev1994]

I killed anders for doing less than solas. Justify him all you want but I see one end for him

[@Myraculous_]

I can settle for imprisonment in Fade forever but that may be worse for him since he is immortal. Somehow I think there is a possible ending here if the inquistor romanced Solas and drank from the well of sorrow, she could become mythal or something similar to Flemeth and live with Solas in Fade...It's horrible I know😢 but logical

[@MrZiva82]

I am so afraid what will they do with the story

[@anderporascu5026]

Solas is inspired by Doctor Who, Richard the 3rd (now is the Tevinter of our discontent), Moses (loosely) and one everyone forgets... Aristotle because he came across as a philosopher in DAI. I know likely Hello Future Me and Tale Foundry might one day cover the complexities and message of his narrative but for now, you, Jackdaw will cover it. Now we will get romances and possibly brothels for those not interested in the cast or who make a villainous asshole.

[@sarahnantz1364]

Better for fans to react angrily huh? Lol Well, that explains the game trailer everyone!

[@solenwinter44]

I would like to know how Morrigan's son plays into this. He has the soul of an old god, but it was never said which old god. After 10 years, he would be a young man now.

[@tinaswafford1985]

It's the Old God we killed: Urthemiel. But who is Urthemiel in the Pantheon? (Flemeth seems to remove Urthemiel's soul from Kieran and take it into herself before departing.)

[@Silenthitman44]

Err yes we do thats been confirmed since day one and He doesn't have the soul anymore flemeth absorbed it and then Solas absorbed both of them

[@anvos658]

@@Silenthitman44 Not to mention there was also the timeline where he never had the soul, since you romanced Morrigan, but turned down the ritual.

[@intotheshadowsproject]

Don't trust your mage companions! Morrigan, Anders, Solas...😂 Of course ,there are exceptions..but..Rook has to be alert or you are going to have your heart broken again 😅

[@tokamnich4709]

So basically, they played cyberpunk and really liked Johnny silverhand?

[@awiyaann2826]

oh dear not again lol i also play swtor and had enough of having valkorian living in my head lol now i have to have solas in there also it is going to get very crowded 🤣😂

[@theTIPSYGECKO]

Why would anyone romance solas? Dudes a dork! 😂

[@marcogiordanella7795]

This looks like it’s going to flop like Andromeda.

[@MerrillDragonAge]

No Merrill no buy. Yes Merrill instant pre-order.

[@DreamingDrag0n]

We know that Solas isn't infallible, so maybe if he succeeds in his plan, he destroys not only all humans but his elven people too, because they've changed so much over the ages, and then he dies alone as the only survivor. 🙂

[@Myraculous_]

wait are you saying in his original plan, the elves wouldn't die? I thought by breaking the veil, all living creatures on Thedas would be wiped out (killed in the chaos or possessed by spirits or died of old age later) and spirits in Fade would become beings similar to the old elves.

[@Silenthitman44]

​@Myraculous_ Only some will die and the elves would have regained their immortality

[@Kavino]

I am gonna say I don't like this direction AT ALL. Let Solas be the mastermind antagonist and powerful tragic villain that he is meant to be, the man who would rally the elven race for a sympathetic but ultimately foolhardy quest. Let him be the one we would struggle against, an elven god that has full agency over his actions, not a disembodied parasite of Rook's mind, not Mythal again.

[@RFA_The-DuDe]

My elven mage is going to kill Solas, as she swears to do after trespasser. If she cant, because Bioware wont allow that, this would be a major disappointment. Probably one of many.

[@Silenthitman44]

You aren't playing as the inquistor so your new character doesn't have that motivation Now I am not saying you can't or can kill him but saying that it's a whole new character however your inquistor will be in the game so that may happen

[@RFA_The-DuDe]

@@Silenthitman44 I see where you are coming from, and you are right. But it IS the same player, and in the spirit of role playing, i can definitely kill Solas with a character that looks the same, and has the same name. So, if there is a chance, my Ashryn is going to kill Solas. Count on it.

[@Silenthitman44]

@RFA_The-DuDe If they let you go for it since you are right it is your choice to do so, if they allow it and you probably won't be the only one to do it

[@RFA_The-DuDe]

@@Silenthitman44 Far as i understand there are 2 camps... one that love Solas, and one that hate Solas.. so yeah, i think you are right... I wont be the only one...Having said that, i will try the other side with a different character...

[@RFA_The-DuDe]

@@Silenthitman44 Soz m8, i have no idea why they keep deleting my reply's...

[@tinaswafford1985]

Is the VOICE of "All the world will soon share the peace and comfort of my reign" Solas after all? Does Solas plan to rule? Did he always plan to rule? He walked among both 'The People' and the 'Forgotten Ones' while both trusted him, as the Inquisition trusted him, as most of us trust him. But the Forgotten Ones were elves, and they seem to be gone. The last of the untainted Pantheon seems to be Solas. Mythal seems to be gone. Now Solas seems imprisoned, ready to advise Rook, to draw parallels between them, telling Rook secrets and steps to take, guilting Rook with accusation of a mistake that put tainted ancient Elvhen into Thedas. Does Solas mean to destroy Thedas except for elves and have the magic back as he rules? 🤔 Solas: "I would not have you see what I become."

[@Inariele]

the voice is NOT solas

[@tinaswafford1985]

@@Inariele Maybe or maybe not. Solas plus Dreadwolf and Mythal spirit may sound a little different. I'm wondering. No worries. Also, could it be David Sterne's voice, possibly as Elgar'nan? Dragon Age: Inquisition (2014 Video Game) David Sterne: Corypheus, The Nightmare, Lord Abernache's Herald, Orlesian Nobleman, Grand Ball Attendee

[@jungtothehuimang]

No offense to all the SOLAS lovers out there, I love y'all you're great but this egghead is about to be so over via my Rook. He's gonna get cooked.

[@NehnBellanaris]

To each their own, honey. For me, it just depends on what he's like in the next game.

[@jungtothehuimang]

@@NehnBellanaris yeah, honestly his characterization in the next game could bring me around to him for all I know. Maybe I won't be able to say mad at him after all this time. We shall see come autumn!

[@BelieveIt1051]

I would rather my Inquisitor be the one to confront Johnny Solas-Hand, and at the END of the major events, not the beginning. The eight year time-skip is also a bad thing since it fast-forwards us past the best of the major events. With Solas trapped, I don't see any good point in the story for the Inquisitor to arrive and confront Solas. Nor do I see anything Solas does with Rook to be plausible past that point. Solas helping Rook isn't going to get him any closer to bringing down the veil, so Solas is essentially no longer a threat. Which means no real reason for the Inquisitor or Rook to convince him anyway. At best, all I see happening is the Inquisitor or Rook finding a way to restore Elvhenan without destroying the veil. I could see Solas showing Rook how much better things were in his world, with beings not having to worry about a great risk of death or aging, and how reality could be sculpted by mere thought back then, but that's still not a convincing argument for destroying the veil. Solas could also show how the real world is full of corruption and death, but that's just an argument for fixing those things or making improvements, not tearing it all down. Plus, Solas is going to have a hard time convincing us if the taint is just the result of the evanuris' mad quest for more power anyway. All in all, I think BioWare has lost the plot here. This was supposed to be about our Inquisitor finding people Solas didn't know so he could be tracked down and stopped, and possibly so evidence could be gathered showing that Solas didn't have to destroy this world. This is all thrown to the wayside by some random stranger in a bar who helped Harding push a statue over, and Neve who somehow managed to sense Solas' ancient elvhen magic in a city built on ancient elvhen magic. Now everything is on Rook, and I doubt that during these quests we're going to find out a whole lot about the various places promised to us over the last decade. Seems like Tevinter, Nevarra, Antiva, Weisshaupt, etc. will all just be stages for the new combat and main plots to take place. We won't actually get to "live" in Tevinter and see the day-to-day life or explore its peoples, politics, and problems. This is probably going to be even more topical and shallow than DA2.

[@simmybackup5000]

not a fan of this , leans so heavily into his redemption ...

[@lauradeneault3525]

A spirit reborn like you say has no memory from the previous spirit as said in Inquisition so I don't know where you're going with that .... Plus, you say you are logical, but you seem pretty biased..

[@NehnBellanaris]

No, Solas said that it is RARE for a spirit to retain their memories after being reborn, not that they never remember after being reborn.