Jackie Kennedy Doesn't Like Queen Elizabeth | The Crown (Claire Foy, Jodi Balfour, Jamie Glover)

[@MovingPicsOfficial]

Have you ever been caught talking bad about someone?

[@annedavis6090]

nope, I try to not speak ill of anyone.. and especially not behind their back.

[@corybarnes2341]

Caught??? I've been heard talking bad about someone.

[@GreatGreebo]

Yep…it was when I was fairly young and I was so embarrassed by it that I learned my lesson that day to keep my small opinions to myself 👀

[@hughmcaloon6506]

Yes. To my shame.

[@catwoman9062]

No. My mother always told us to sweep in front of our door.

[@mjohnson5030]

Half of this show is Clair Foy sitting pristine suppressing repeated slights and insults. Such a great facial actor. She speaks volumes of sadness, resentment, loneliness and rage with the same blank expression. Masterful.

[@creativewriter3887]

I know this series is more fluff than fact.. but It's even more savage when she hosts Jackie a second time at the Palace. During that exchange, Jackie explains that her comments were a result of her being Jacked up (PUN intended) on a "vitamin cocktail" administered before that infamous dinner. The Queen was poised and controlled and basically granted the excuse and accepted Jackie's "praise", but way she tore into her scone with her knife and added the butter and jam to it was just a subliminal queue of what she probably would have done if she were her Namesake in "Gloriana" England. lol

[@hallelujah88]

She has every muscle, sinew, and vein of her body under command. Great actress ❤

[@xcalibertrekker6693]

Truth hurts.

[@Rockyson065]

I never really cared for any of the Kennedy clan.

[@Sarah_270]

@@Rockyson065 Nouveau riche. No real class.

[@fazbell]

The immense value of keeping one's opinions private.

[@mariarohmer2374]

Oh please. If this was said, was she wrong? I think not. It's good to know the truth of who we are and how we are really seen vs people lying. It can hurt but it's a wonderful opportunity to be better, if that's the case.

[@sjbell4653]

@@mariarohmer2374 Oh, yes, Jackie the ultimate elitist telling the truth about a beloved institution and woman, while a guest in that woman's home country. What a wonderful thing.

[@mariarohmer2374]

@@sjbell4653 "A beloved institution," oh my sides. Monarchies are ridiculous and exist off the backs of common people. They are not special or demigods. It is an illusion. They are no better or more deserving than anyone. Get real.

[@mariarohmer2374]

@@sjbell4653 Once again, "beloved institution" claim: laughable.

[@iamcase1245]

@@sjbell4653 The British are worse elitists than ANYTHING that has ever come out of the USA. Especially in the post-War period. Also I'm not sure if you have the money to travel but anyone who has seen the UK will tell you that 99% of historical British mansions are shitholes. Jackie wasn't lying and she was nice enough to say it away from the Queen. Buckingham, Edinburgh, Canterbury, Norwich, Ely and many others are creaky, cold, glossed over toilets. And this is true of a lot of Europe. I've been all over Europe and it's always a shock how much Europeans think they're better than the rest of the world when it comes to luxury and class then you see their homes and you think you're in a 3rd world country.

[@adelaferreira4575]

Have you ever seen more expressive eyes ? Claire Foy is flawless in The Crown ,what a joy to watch her !

[@GhostofMrsMuir1443]

If you haven’t seen ‘Meet Joe Black’, you really should. Claire Foy shines in that as well.

[@miknrene]

@@GhostofMrsMuir1443 I believe that's Claire Forlani. Also wonderful, but a different actor.

[@DenaInWyo]

She's just the best ever at Queens. Her depiction of Anne Boleyn is my favorite as well. She strikes the balance between that romantic, beautiful figure and the reality of the sharp tongued Queen who played at least a part in her own demise. Queen Anne was innocent of the charges against her, but she could have certainly played her hand a little more gently and maybe survived. Claire really captured that.

[@andyjackson3414]

@@DenaInWyo "Little Dorrit"

[@rachelcoisnacoillte]

​@@andyjackson3414 One of my favourites.

[@vickenator]

Patrick's whole demeanor throughout this was spot-on. What an uncomfortable conversation to have with an old friend.

[@garyv2196]

Maybe you should become a director.

[@danielkoher1944]

Horribly painful and to have the decorum not to walk away from such an arrogant elitist. How Elizabeth was right there during WW11, driving, working with the common. Wisely intelligent enough to realize these were her People. Still enough of a Lady to mention having her back.

[@mariarohmer2374]

Great ac/ting, sure. But all this old school awkwardness is exhausting to modern minds. If you have a friend, you just say it. What's the big deal with truth? I'd rather know.

[@cbemch92]

Devastating acting and writing. Especially the switch from “Ma’am” to “Lilibet” as the decorum starts to fall away.

[@vickenator]

@@cbemch92 I really loved that tiny touch. Showed their true closeness and his apprehension at knowing what pain he was about to bring her.

[@barbarasommerville5617]

"We must have her again soon". Pure class!

[@robpolaris7272]

I have to say if this was true, Jackie really did herself and the US a disservice. After all this the Queen wrote a lovely letter to Jackie after the President’s murder. Queen Elizabeth was pure class in this instance.

[@Redbrack]

Nah Jackie’s right. It’s not Jackie’s fault the queen was raised to be stunted mentally. Look at William and Harry’s educations, and Charles. The people are all raised to be empty headed wavers focused on dog breeding and gossip. And the throne was antiquated. This is all true

[@amythompson6431]

She's supposed to write a good letter; what else is she going to do? Actually, Jackie was right...the entire monarchy are made up of entitled people who are studies in mediocrity and living the high life off the people.

[@Laotzu.Goldbug]

It is entirely fabricated. there is some evidence that there might have been some disappointment expressed on both sides in relation to a certain guest list at a certain event, but there is nothing in even the slightest sense to indicate that this sort of commentary or anything close to it took place. and it is correct that there were gifts and warm accolades exchange by both sides both before and after their meeting. At the end of the day regardless of what you think of Jackie Kennedy she wasn't a moron, and you would have to be a completely oblivious room to make comments like that where other people could hear you at a state function, even if you personally believed them.

[@shamioshi]

"a lovely letter" after a president's murder is not necessarily an indication of "class", it statesmanship, protocol; it's what the crown should do. There's no telling if that was a reflection of how the Queen actually felt.

[@YouCanCallMeReTro]

@@Laotzu.Goldbug I read that she criticized the furniture of buckingham palace but I don't recall seeing anything this incendiary. These are some fierce words here

[@rickj9615]

Claire Foy is absolutely one of the most brilliant actresses I've ever seen… She can speak 1000 words with just her face and expressions… She's fantastic!

[@WayToDawn72]

I always love the change in her expression as she hears of Jackie's impression of her. Like a cold slap in the face

[@vodkagal28]

Was that really said?

[@stallion78]

Yes, like the anger was just seething inside. Clare played this beautifully

[@fuzzykyrra]

Or a hot thumb up the bum!

[@mariarohmer2374]

Well stated. She delivers all the emotion so well. Love her.

[@DrFranklynAnderson]

“Jackie, darling, so glad you were able to visit again. Ask Jack to say hi to Marilyn for me.”

[@greywolf1989]

🤣🤣🤣

[@CarolFremel-my4hs]

Spot on

[@RoseRedd-k4b]

OUCH! LOL

[@RoseRedd-k4b]

@@JoanMorrison-vq2jc LMAO nice

[@justsayin397]

@@JoanMorrison-vq2jcPrince Phillip actually darling! Can’t take y’all anywhere 🙄

[@jmac5951]

I admire Patrick for not wanting to tell her. I have always wondered about the motives of anyone eager to pass on unkind remarks

[@JohnnyBGoode-jm4qp]

@jmac5951 Facts. That’s how I knew a couple of “friends” weren’t really my friends. Each time they repeated mean stuff so-and-so _allegedly_ said about me, they enjoyed watching my hurt expression. After the support I gave them. After school, they had the unmitigated gall to attempt reconnecting with me and rekindling our “bonding”. I blew them off. As anybody should, if you have such “friends”. One even tried calling and calling me. I never picked up. The only time you should tolerate a friend passing on unkind remarks is if your friend’s purpose is to protect you from trusting an unworthy somebody who’s pretending to be nice to your face. By the way, Happy Christmas, OP!

[@reginafallangie2867]

He truly cared for her and knew she’d be hurt by it.

[@evypeace03]

The late Queen's sacrifices, loyalty & duty to her people & country remain unsurpassed. 🌌

[@OldProphet61]

As an American, with the benefit of many decades of hindsight, I must admit I admire Elizabeth far more than I ever did Jackie.

[@chrissantos5580]

Admire a politicians wife or a royal that’s like admiring swine

[@dougl945]

This is a drama. There a no proof Jackie said that.

[@susancrawford5927]

@@dougl945 This was written about long before this series took place. Decades before. "Incurious and unintelligent" were the exact words Jackie used.

[@jean-francoisbrunet2031]

@@susancrawford5927 And is there actually any evidence that Elizabeth, not withstanding her moral qualities or sense of statesmanship, was intelligent and curious?

[@AnnaYusim-tu3ru]

@@susancrawford5927 she said some nasty mean things about john kennedy's juniors wife too. really classless

[@Ymirson999]

One should always and rightfully doubt the accuracy of fictional narratives of historical events, but no matter how much of this show may be inaccurate, or even biased in its own way, it was the among the three best television shows I've ever seen.

[@satcher2001]

Jackie’s comments were heard by others at a social gathering. I don’t think they were fictitious.

[@brendac742]

Who knows what is correct.

[@alexandergrant2420]

@@satcher2001 I would wager that QE didn't care what the JK said at all, she is Royalty after all.

[@mikejewpants4099]

@@alexandergrant2420 Members of the so-called "Royal Family" are human beings, just like the rest of us. I assure you, they have good days, bad days, disappointments and insecurities; just like everyone else. I understand that Prince Charles had a difficult time when he was a young man. He was treated unkindly and he responded like any normal person would.

[@PatrickKniesler]

@@alexandergrant2420 She's still human. Well, we were wondering towards the end, considering how long she was around, but my statement seems correct.

[@gatocat3336]

The person to blame is not the person who makes derogatory remarks but the person who repeats them. Otherwise we wouldn’t be able to express our opinions about anybody

[@LisaG442]

Jackie wasn’t wrong. The Queen herself felt her lack of education keenly. She was brought up on the cusp of a new, modernizing world by very old fashioned and outdated ppl. But I believe it was her very nature to be old fashioned. She was also quite an economical person, not wasting money if not necessary. She always had her hats recycled by dyeing and changing decorative trim for example. She made Charles go back into the woods to find a dog leash he’d dropped.

[@michaelplunkett8059]

Waste not want not generation raised in wartime rationing. Make do and mend.

[@LisaG442]

@@michaelplunkett8059 Absolutely 👍🏻

[@vernjake]

What jackie said is not important. Because her husband is screwing a blonde bombshell right under her nose. 🤷🏻‍♀️

[@raraavis7782]

It's interesting, how quickly and vastly the attitude of Americans towards British aristocracy changed, isn't it? Just half a century ago, rich Americans would still basically 'sell' their daughters to English aristocrats, to gain the status of having 'aristocratic in-laws'. Because no matter how insanely rich they were... being titled still counted more. And here we have the wife of the American president being snobbish and condescending toward the Queen of England herself (assuming this did happen in a similar way as portrayed, of course).

[@sarahpeart6500]

@@LisaG442 I don't think the Queen could ever have been accused of lacking curiosity, so I wonder if this can be true. I heard that they bonded over their love of horses. Jackie was a great horsewoman and Jack was advised to suggest riding when Jackie was stressed.

[@marywenzel3199]

One sympathizes with Patrick’s agony. Brilliantly acted by both. When the Queen says “We must have her again soon.” the steely determination makes it clear that Jackie is going to be on the menu.

[@betsyr4724]

It’s true queen wasn’t educated but she outlived all of them with purpose and grace.

[@mattybrunolucaszeneresalas9072]

Uhh yes she was

[@keturaequalizer]

@@mattybrunolucaszeneresalas9072 Exactly what I thought! Of course she has an education. The way she talks and articulates herself says it all. For Christ`s sake, she was raised in the royal family. She went to the best schools. 😏🙄

[@steveadams9957]

She was educated on matters of state constitutional matters but she was nit afforded a traditional education however for someone not educated she was highly intelligent gracious dignified i like that she didn't over modernize the monarchy people like traditionas its part of the culture people come from all over to see and admire the dignity and grace in which the monarchy held itself until her children ruined it i believe the Queen would have much difficulty talking to ordinary people thats why lots of people were upset and felt the monarchy was hidden a mystery never coming out to meet the people but i believe Diana had a profound impact on the Queen and saw how Diana was so close to the people and they loved her so.much that it was a thing the queen was willing to and did change however of people were to talk to her about many subjects she probably fetl unable to answer or respond heavy is the head that wears the crown 👑

[@sunny1433]

Holy crap, I never knew Jackie O said that about the Queen. I’d always thought of her as a diplomatic emissary who watched what she said at all times.

[@joeporter4920]

well I was at the other end of the table but, I think I heard... proceeds to tell her the insults in great detail. lol

[@portiacapitalmanagement7511]

Like many, I love how Jackie dressed and represented the U.S. However, she could be quite tough on other women, so no doubt she felt superior in some way. But at the end of the game of life, who is more revered and loved? I would say it's Queen Elizabeth. She was not perfect, but served her country until the very end.

[@fatimateresa19]

Jackie Kennedy was a one nasty lady. She treated anybody she deemed below her very poorly!

[@supermom23]

She was tough on women because she was insecure. Her husband nailed anything with a pulse and she knew it.

[@CarolFremel-my4hs]

Everybody was shocked when she married Aristotle Onassis for his billions - showed us who she really was

[@raraavis7782]

It's such a sad scene. Maligning someone, who hosted you in a courteous, welcoming manner is just such deplorable behavior. I don't know, if it's historically accurate or not...but I keenly feel for Queen Elizabeth here

[@ryanhilliard1620]

@@CarolFremel-my4hsI think she married him for the protection he could provide for her and her children.

[@kyle381000]

"So, let's not ruin the habit of a lifetime." Savage.

[@RMFeminine4TheWin]

*"We MUST Have Her Again Sooooon".* *Double Savage* 😉

[@S070-g8q]

I fail to see the savage in either.

[@RMFeminine4TheWin]

@@S070-g8q *it's what the kidz call a "classy read". she was being sarcastic in an elegant way.* 😉

[@kyle381000]

@@S070-g8q It was a very pointed way to say "Let's cut the crap.".

[@S070-g8q]

@@kyle381000 Yes, I get that bit. Not savage, though.

[@pazuzu126]

Wow, you can just see the pain welling up in her eyes. Great acting!

[@tomwebber9377]

Oh to have been a fly on the wall at that dinner party and heard what was honestly said. Creative license (dramatic license) always takes center stage. However, regardless of the truth, this entire scene has been well acted. Both do their parts exceptional grace.

[@Xchax3]

I understand this is “realistic”-fiction but I think this was a quick way to summarize not only the Kennedys’ opinions but Americans as a whole in the early 60s. “In truth, the Kennedys did have criticisms of Queen Elizabeth following their meeting. According to The Telegraph, Cecil Beaton claimed that Kennedy “was unimpressed by the palace furnishings and by the Queen’s dress and hairstyle.” Gore Vidal claimed that Jackie described the queen as “pretty heavy going.” “… Unlike the depiction in "The Crown," there are no reports that Jackie’s criticisms got back to the Queen, and the year following the dinner, Jackie visited Elizabeth in lower-profile circumstances without her husband when the monarch invited her to lunch on March 28, 1962. Jackie told the press afterward: “I don’t think I should say anything about it except how grateful I am and how charming she was.” "The Crown" creator Peter Morgan has not specified what knowledge he bases his plot twists on, but he said: “I think there’s room to creatively imagine, based on the information we have about her.” “

[@artflorez1568]

Thank you for saving me the time (and for being far more eloquent than I would have been) with your reply to this video. People seem to forget that this series was historical fiction with some basis in reality but private moments were total fiction.

[@smacdiesel]

During the early 1960's, my father was driving a truck working 70 hours a week supporting his young family. He had no opinion of the queen nor America's place in the world at that time. America was a lot more isolated than today, so Mrs Kennedy's opinion of the royal family was for the most unique to her and her elevated position.

[@JDH3666]

@@artflorez1568 How could you possible know that if they were private moments? How daft!

[@artflorez1568]

@@JDH3666 Unless Jackie Kennedy, Queen Elizabeth or a member of the royal household from that time wrote this script, it was total fiction. If you don't understand that you are the daft one.

[@gridley]

Ironic she'd say that since the White House was quite dumpy in its own right. Buckingham reflected the splendor of royalty whereas the White House was actually sort of a tract house from the 1950s (Truman gutted the building in the 1950s & rebuilt its interior). Turn around is fair play, however: When QE2 visited the WH she commented on how small it was.

[@seanbyrne6483]

He is an excellent actor

[@nassauguy48]

Jackie referred to the Queen as middle aged? They were only three years apart. Both were in their early thirties at this time.

[@genxx2724]

At least Jackie Kennedy thought the same of the White House, and undertook fundraising and a refurbishment.

[@lds251]

True:-)

[@willams_uncrustables]

I like how the handbag took a trip around the chair

[@SHONNER]

I've never seen this show. But that was a very good scene, I must say. Her eyes. They show so much there.

[@barbararussell9757]

I can't stand these fictionalized accounts of real people and events that may or may not have happened that way. No matter how many people rave about "The Crown", it's still just gossip presented in a soap opera.

[@Loki-g3k]

The facial expression from Claire in this scene is a masterclass 👌

[@bobs2125]

This Patrick is not the Patrick that Jamie Glover portrayed. This is Sam Crane portraying Patrick Plunket, 7th Baron Plunket. Jamie Glover played Patrick Jephson in the Crown.

[@RoseRedd-k4b]

What Jackie said was COLD BLOODED.

[@KathleenMcNe]

Jackie was a snotty B.

[@lisaboyle72]

But true

[@hutch1197]

@@KathleenMcNe The "Jackie" they portrayed in this show was snotty. In reality, it was all unsubstantiated rumors, and even the real-life rumors were much milder that what is portrayed in the show. By all accounts, they liked each other a great deal.

[@PyroGothNerd]

​@@KathleenMcNeDon't get your historical information from a British fictional drama.

[@KathleenMcNe]

@@PyroGothNerd I didn't.

[@cavaliermama56]

One of the best scenes in the series. I love it.

[@ryanhilliard1620]

I mean…she asked…😂If that were really what was said, hearing it must have been very painful. I have a hard time believing the First Lady would say that publicly at a White House dinner. Maybe over cocktails with close friends.

[@katisugarbaker7349]

She did not. She may have even thought it, but Mrs. Kennedy did NOT speak that snobbish way in public about such an esteemed figure; she was MUCH too well bred.

[@kaiblade760]

@@katisugarbaker7349 Did you know her personally?

[@JoanMorrison-vq2jc]

​@@kaiblade760 Did YOU know Mrs Kennedy personally?

[@kaiblade760]

@@JoanMorrison-vq2jc ???

[@satcher2001]

I think it was probably dinner at lee’s (her sister) in London.

[@ellenmorse8559]

What’s really funny is that so much was made of Jacquie French background as if her antecedents were oh so classy. The truth is her last name, “Bouvier”, comes from the word “bovine”, which means from cows. A Bouvier is a cow herder! I know this because I am French.

[@jimhagan4990]

Good for you honey Yeah, I'm sure Jackie didn't know the origins of her name 🙄. I doubt she claimed to be from Royalty.

[@kenharvey8161]

Jackie was actually only 1/8th French, the other 7/8ths being Irish. A lot gets assumed based on a last name.

[@risingphoenix8072]

Americans don’t actually care about things like that. A well known attorney by the name of Ben Rottenborn never changed his name, indeed, he had no thoughts about it. And that’s just one example.

[@angelwingz892]

​@@risingphoenix8072utter bullocks. She was a snob and married another couple of snobs. It is hardly surprising that her "lineage" goes back to a cow herder, quite fitting.

[@grdn02100]

@@jimhagan4990 You're right that was her sisters forte.

[@jillballantyne1870]

Anyone (man) who is able to deliver such "precise" information is not pained at all, and is merely a gossip mongerer.

[@princered4]

I don't know if this is true or not, but if it is true, that cruel that First Lady Jackie Kennedy to say that about Queen Elizabeth 2nd and I am a citizen of the United States. To be fair and if it's makes the Queen feel any better, Jackie Kennedy's predecessor as First Lady Mamie Eisenhower didn't like Jackie Kennedy.

[@bbybella9937]

Mamie refused to give Jackie Kennedy a wheelchair when she was visiting the White House only after weeks after giving birth to her son. Mamie is the rude mean one in this scenario.

[@princered4]

@@bbybella9937 true, but if it is true that First Lady Kennedy spoke of Queen Elizabeth II like she did in this video, than in my humble opinion, First Lady Kennedy kinda deserves that treatment from her predecessor, Mrs. Mamie Eisenhower.

[@dnhy7951]

​@@princered4Mamie was a hideous oul bat.

[@stephaniewilliams168]

​@@princered4yes and Jackie was not the demure woman the public would like to believe. She was quite catty and spiteful. Allegedly she threatened to expose jfk and his affair with Marilyn Monroe if jfk didn't end it. Suffice to say he ended it

[@princered4]

@@stephaniewilliams168 right!!

[@d.l.l.6578]

I’m surprised that Jackie Kennedy would say disparaging things where she could be overheard. I doubt if she said that.

[@sarahpeart6500]

I agree! She was the ultimate long player, knew how to get financial help from her grandfather through poems, kept all kinds of detritus from the White House years that sold for megabucks at the auction after her death. There were rusty jardieneres, old magazines etc. That's not the person who lets their mouth run fast and loose!

[@twiley3530]

Great performances!

[@Thedearster]

Doubt this actually happened. I just can't believe a First Lady would say such a thing aloud, especially when foreign guests are present.

[@NLS336]

Gotta say Jackie nailed it with the old cold institution without a place in the modern world line. Damn, ate them all for dinner. But, why should they be surprised? Americans would rather die than live under a monarchy and this sentiment may yet come round again in our own society.

[@ckma528]

“And did she have anything to say… about me?” 🙂 “Lilibet…”😩 “Patrick”😒

[@anthonyshuman3395]

The description is incorrect. Sam Crane played Patrick, not Jaime Glover.

[@heybuh007]

Claire Foy kicks ass as Her Royal Majesty!

[@metroplexchl]

Just a curiosity but has anyone researched this to see if this was the stance and expression of the Kennedy's or just fiction?

[@mik3ymomo]

Imagine how ill Jackie would speak of the British Isles today…. All the more diminished and dilapidated…

[@Mike8981]

Rubbish!!

[@mik3ymomo]

@@Mike8981 oh was Jackie a big fan of illegal Immigration was she? Or communism?

[@susanlloyd7395]

Did no one object at this dinner party?

[@FlipMacz]

How dare Jackie open her nasty mouth this way... She was nothing in the world... just a flash in the pan man-servant.

[@Poparox6592]

OMW what a great performer.

[@roadwarrior4181]

When I saw this scene I just imagined Elizabeth later on crying about what Jackie said and eating ice cream while a confused and mildly annoyed Philip comforts her.

[@silentmentor5888]

Boy that just doesn't ring true that Jackie said those things. If for no other reason than because it would hurt diplomatic relationship between the two countries.

[@mcbrion1951]

I agree. Kennedy, famous for charming DeGaulle and all of France, was keenly aware of diplomacy. However, so much of what was supposedly said is apocryphal, so I take accounts like this with a grain of salt.

[@ryzvonusef]

Patrick 'I was at the other end of the table!' Plunket, 7th Baron Plunket :D

[@jeep146]

She might have been right about Queen Elizabeth but Clair Foy can be my queen any day of the week.

[@linniem5982]

Phillip asked Queen Elizabeth II why she wore that hair style.

[@craftforfun36]

I believe her reason was to be unchanging always recognisable and a constant that she would always be there for us no matter what and she did to the very end. As for Jackie Kennedy well a peculiar looking woman who wore outstanding outfits to deflect your gaze from that fact and what did she do when her husband was assassinated she moved on to a super rich man who was someone else’s husband and stole him causing that woman a lifetime of hurt she never got over, Tramp.

[@ffotograffydd]

Always entertaining to read a comment section about The Crown. Most of the show is completely made up, but a scary number of people treat it like a documentary. 😂

[@andrewnorth6472]

Well, she did ask, didn't she? But this Patrick should have had the good sense not to repeat what Jackie Kennedy said, assuming she said it in the first place and that it's not pure invention by the scriptwriters of 'The Crown'.

[@alessandroguermandi8828]

Immense Beauty,breath taking.Also fantastic acting.

[@TheFruitsOfZellman]

She was really just jealous because Jackie and Philip were flirting.

[@ccbarr58]

That was rough...

[@hutch1197]

Yes, I know it's fictionalized for entertainment, but man did they do a hatchet job on the Kennedys. There were only small, unsubstantiated rumors that Jackie made any negative comments, let alone the wildly detailed description given in "The Crown". By all accounts, both parties like each other a great deal.

[@jamesbernsen3516]

We Americans need to be reminded from time to time that the Kennedys were not saints, nor did they descend from Olympus to rule us. They were in fact arrogant, not quite as competent as they made out, and morally as ambiguous as the society around them.

[@kaymuldoon3575]

@@jamesbernsen3516doesn’t matter. People loved them.

[@brianpresley8287]

@@kaymuldoon3575 Some people loved them.

[@copyright-ur1sf]

@@jamesbernsen3516What a hyperbolic irrelevant comment

[@katisugarbaker7349]

The Brits always play this game on television and films, making themselves out to be the true earnest sincere good people with manners and the Americans as crude mannerless minions that belong in the commonwealth. Jackie Kennedy had more true good manners in her pinky finger than all of the BRF combined. She would NEVER have spoken that way in public and it’s doubtful she’d say it anywhere at any time. She was full of the real meaning of grace. These words sound more like what Elizabeth’s own snobbish rude younger sister would’ve said.

[@fanglethorpe]

Ahahaha called it, look at the UK now

[@bbenjoe]

And what would Jackie say about 2024's USA, I wonder.

[@DoreeseEveritt]

that is so sad if Jacqueline Kennedy really said those words.... she was one of the great first ladies and I really hope this isn't true

[@ffotograffydd]

She didn’t, a Hollywood script writer did…

[@SalveRegina8]

Talk about tugging at your heart strings!

[@kathyshore1004]

Good for them!

[@inglatera1910]

god the acting is so good

[@williamphillips6049]

Well, Elizabeth hated Buckingham palace, too.

[@JDH3666]

@@williamphillips6049 Why? To much for her to clean and dust?

[@williamphillips6049]

@@JDH3666 I guess . . 'Actually something about their first place being better.

[@gerardmackay8909]

To her Buckingham Palace was just a place of work and not welcoming or comfortable, her beloved home was Windsor Castle plus her holiday homes Balmoral and Sandringham.

[@laststopbeforeheaven]

The ticking clock in a tired institution was the perfect metaphor.

[@aton87]

One of the most revered celebrated monarch of 70 years first ladies come and go

[@patriciacarrerasj8315]

Time and history put each one of them in their right place! Big hurrah for Her Majesty!!!!

[@bbybella9937]

What does that even mean? Is JFK not a historical figure like the Queen? What a silly comment.

[@risingphoenix8072]

JFK refused to loan the British government the money they requested, but they were able to eventually get it from LBJ.

[@01Mary02]

I highly doubt Jackie ever said anything like that.

[@fredalwatkins4506]

​@transitionshotline she later came to respect the queen

[@colleenporter1119]

I believe Jackie came to respect the Queen after she understood what Elizabeth had to go thru

[@lfaz4296]

Sounds like a tabloid narrative honestly. Feud between women has always sold more papers.

[@einezcrespo2107]

@@lfaz4296 Actually The Crown embellished it a little but Jackie Kennedy did say Buckingham Palace was old fashioned and so was The Queen's wardrobe and hairstyle.

[@AndSendMe]

@@einezcrespo2107 Well on that account Jackie's superpower seems to have been an acute grasp of the obvious.

[@jeraldbaxter3532]

I have the feeling that when the Queen said, "Well, we must have her again, soon...", what she meant was, " Well, we must have her lodged in the tower, soon..."😉

[@Timurlane64]

I knew some people who worked on the Bouvier estate when Jackie was there. The fact she could act like this is not a shock. The used to laugh at her admirers naivety.

[@herseem]

If that is representative of the truth, what Jackie Kennedy said about Buckingham Palace was pretty sharp actually.

[@risingphoenix8072]

US Presidents have said similar things or worse, but it is awful to have it leaked. They cleaned up Johnson’s opinion in The Crown, a lot, but he didn’t care who overheard. Clinton chose to go for a curry instead of tea with the Queen. W Bush - better left unrepeated. Trump - OMG he almost pushed her out of his way. Bad business from disgruntled ex colonists 😂

[@SA2004YG]

​@risingphoenix8072 you got me too curious about George W

[@franziskani]

@@risingphoenix8072 Michelle Obama said they had the services of the kitchen at their disposal. And she chose to order fries ;) - Michelle added: They were good. (like she was really impressed. She was not sarcastic. I guess she wanted to be a bit edgy when being confronted with all that protocol and what not. And the kitchen made a point to serve excellent fries to show 'em).

[@franziskani]

@@risingphoenix8072 I guess the Obamas made a good impression.

[@rickbloke17CR]

Margaret mentioned it. DID SHE? 😂😂😂 I bet he was thinking: "I told that loose mouth not to say a word!"

[@madam9736]

That was the last time Jackie Kennedy visited . I don’t think she was missed . RIP The Queen .

[@gwenbeukes-yf7rl]

Yes,i do believe every word and more,nothing is sharper than another woman's tongue rage with jealousy and envy,as a small chils i couldn't wait to be a adult Lady beautifully dressed and working,but i soon realized that most woman just gossip and brake each other down to the bone,it's just terrible 😢and absolutely disgusting,as a Nurse everyday i see this people working together for 12 hours being friendly towards you but turn your back and it's war,why would you as a woman insult another woman's hair,dress,food her house interior,the list it's endless,for amusement,i don't know,people think 2 men beating each other in a boxing ring like savages with blood everywhere 😢that's nothing my dear put a few woman at a dinner party and afterwards and the next day those evil sharp demon tongues are even worst then a boxing match 😢but when her husband was shot next to her to death,the Queen was dignified to invite her back,that showed what beautifully dignified Her Majesty's was❤❤❤

[@NiVi192]

For those who may have forgotten about the context: Jackie Kennedy had been quite anxious and unwell on their Europe tour, physically and mentally, and heavily drugged up by their personal "doctor" when she made these careless comments (huge question marks, btw. The Kennedies had a more or less secret physician for those heavy pharmaceuticals, who'd been kicked out of the U.S. Medical's Association. God knows what that unlicensed practitioner would infuse during stressful state visits).

[@briancrawford8751]

Licenses to practice medicine are regulated by the state.

[@NiVi192]

@@briancrawford8751 Ok. But the AMA (American Medical Association) is a joint nationwide institution, is it not? 🤔

[@briancrawford8751]

@@NiVi192 Yeah, but membership in it has nothing to do with licensure as a physician.

[@NiVi192]

@@briancrawford8751 Ah I must have confused sth. then. Is it the same with lawyers? ... But anyway, the Kennedy's private doctor had been stripped of his license to practice medicine and prescribed both of them enough to give them strokes by 50, certainly JFK. God rest his soul!

[@briancrawford8751]

@@NiVi192 Lawyers do not have to be members of the American Bar Association. In states in which the state bar association runs lawyer licensing, then yes, they need to be members. In other states, New York, for example, they do not have to be members of the NY Bar Association.

[@sirgerar2006]

Acting at its best … no CGI or explosions just good fundamental and credible acting

[@DoreeseEveritt]

poor guy being put on the spot like that

[@wendyrodgers8474]

I wouldn’t have cared what Jackie Kennedy had to say. I’m sure she would have nothing to do with most of us. Just pray for her.

[@daniellepatton2665]

Of course Jackie didn’t like the queen the queen had class she didn’t

[@christinec.6685]

If that's true, the comments say far more about the character of Jackie Kennedy.

[@nanamifan0220]

I’d crash out ngl 😭😭😭😭

[@lawrencemitchell5983]

Queen Elizabeth..."We must burn their White House"....Mum, we've already done that 🤔. ❤ 🇬🇧 from 🇺🇸.

[@roberts.arnone1808]

lol always remember to address her majesty as ma’am as in ham, not marm as in farm. Sorry I had to.

[@Twentythousandlps]

How could Jackie call Elisabeth "middle-aged"? They were both in their thirties.

[@gerardmackay8909]

A dig at her middle aged ‘mindset’ ie old and dowdy before her time, 36 going on 50. Jackie was highly intelligent but image conscious to the nth degree and VERY materialistic and Elizabeth was none of those things (little wonder they didn’t bond).

[@Twentythousandlps]

@@gerardmackay8909 Good response. But Elisabeth managed her image very carefully in 70+ years and was too wealthy to be materialistic. And highly intelligent in a different way, vigilant in not making the kind of messes that her uncle and sister had! It takes intelligence to not do stupid things.

[@gerardmackay8909]

@@Twentythousandlps very accurate assessment of the late queen 100% in agreement.

[@larrytate4586]

Life expectancy was less back then, 30 was considered middle age.

[@Twentythousandlps]

@@larrytate4586 Hardly.

[@HellsGayngel]

That is not Jamie Glover. That is Sam Crane playing the Queen's equery Baron Patrick Plunket. Jamie played Diana's private secretary Patrick Jephson.

[@charlesfenwick6554]

Clearly invented dialogue.

[@22grena]

Jackie was spot on at the time she said it

[@peterstephenson9538]

How many people will realise that whatever Morgan thinks he achieves with this scene, it indicates more than anything else the shallowness of the liberal American who understands nothing of the role of monarch in the English constitution.

[@risingphoenix8072]

😂😂😂 there is nothing liberal about that. American students live through a year of British history as a precursor to American history and the reasons for the US Constitution. Every Article is the rejection of something British. And many students sleep through both LOL American “conservatives” are more likely to disregard the British system with its lack of a codified constitution. Especially those with the ever present American flag pins and insistence on treating “O Say Can You See” like a religious hymn and Independence Day like Christmas 🤭

[@roseanneroseannadanna9651]

And for all that, the Queen put out a hit on Jackie but the hit man missed and got her husband instead!

[@drgoremd]

Imagine a British Monarch being so delusional that she thought Irish Catholics would have any respect for her.

[@themaggattack]

🎯 😂 ☘

[@CanadianMonarchist]

Irish Catholics fought for Britain in WWI and WWII, and Jackie wasn’t Irish.

[@JoanMorrison-vq2jc]

​​​​​@@CanadianMonarchist Yes. Jackie did have some Irish in her background. Probably this is online, sir. I read this many years ago from some magazine article. Jackie seemed to lean more towards the French side of her family though. Not sure why maybe because Jackie was just closer to her father than her mother.

[@charlesfenwick6554]

​@@CanadianMonarchist Learn about the Blacks and Tans Many Irish Americans rejected tthe League of Natons because the British were members. Resentment to the point of hatred.

[@ashleybrooke2087]

Us Yanks talking smack about the royal family since the times when we were still British colonies.

[@lds251]

American here- does anyone know if this really happened?

[@shannondelp9898]

I believe they had a great mutual respect for each other.

[@CassieDavis613]

Don't believe a word of it.

[@kath-29]

And yet in the end, Queen Elizabeth proved herself to be one of the most extraordinary women of all time!

[@susanlloyd7395]

Jackie was not a girl's girl.