This King was Dethroned for Being Too Tolerant

I do love a good paradox. King James II, a king who grew up fighting for his kingdom’s enemies. The head of a religion he didn’t believe in. A husband who fought tooth and nail for his wife while openly sleeping around, and a tyrant whose people hated him… because he wasn’t oppressing them hard enough.
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[@JackRackam]

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[@danielsantiagourtado3430]

Gonna keep it in mind man! Love your channel!❤❤❤❤

[@JackRackam]

@@danielsantiagourtado3430 Much appreciated!

[@brokenbridge6316]

Your video's are the funniest I've ever encountered on KZbin. Great video Jack.

[@sirdanny545]

Thanks for replying to my comment

[@channel_lurker]

Honestly felt less about you becouse of your recent videos. But here you are, bringing one out supported by your fans instead of a company, whilest not shying away from the horrid crap that goes on in history. It might not get as many views, but it sure is gona get a well deserved like.

[@joellaz9836]

You should have mentioned the fact that James II granted religious freedom to puritans and other non-Anglican Protestant dissenters, but rather than appreciating these freedoms, the puritans said (I’m not joking here) that they would rather not be granted any religious freedom if it meant Catholics would be granted such freedom as well.

[@d.esanchez3351]

Have to remember that people back then took that stuff very deeply, since it was a whole ideology and ways to literally serve God and not going to hell (I'm religious and history student, not saying intolerance is the way but shit was very important for them). Imagine for example. Imaginary county, you are in the free land of America, and government says to party leader Francisco Franco, dude, we are going to be tolerant with you, can do whatever you want, buy please just let Lenin and their Bois stay and run for president. Would be like hellllll nooooooooo But yeah X'D it was wilde. I was expecting him to say how us presbytherians support Jacobite rebellionis bacuse obeying God's appointed authority was definitely most important than the King actually not actively attacking your religion... Fun times XD

[@Rynewulf]

I mean they banned Christmas and didnt have birthdays, they werent very laid back people

[@marlarki5280]

Protestants are the absolute worst

[@CollinMcLean]

Shit was nucking futz in Britain...

[@ElBandito]

Puritans take the fun out of anything. Wouldn't want to be them.

[@seanmcloughlin5983]

“One day Catholics will be so reviled that the people will invite a Dutch prince to invade rather than settle for a Catholic monarch.” -Henry VIII, 100% legit quote “That’s oddly specific.” -Anne Boleyn, also 100% legit quote

[@mrsupremegascon]

I am not gonna lie, I was skeptical until Anne Boleyn confirmed it. Now I know it's the real deal.

[@EnigmaticLucas]

"Not only did we successfully invade England, we managed to convince the English that our invasion was really their revolution" - the Netherlands, 100% legit quote

[@chrissmith3587]

⁠@@EnigmaticLucas yeah but we quite like the Dutch so who’s the real winners

[@westrim]

"78% of quotes on the internet are fake" -Abraham Lincoln

[@bartsanders1553]

"Hey, Tom. Say I got married." "Hang on." "Okay... Say it now." "Haaaannnnggg on." "...Now?" "Hannnnnnnngggggggggg oooonnnnnnn." "How about I kill you?" "Okay!"

[@robfulton3909]

James "I just want peace between the churches!" England "Your mad dreams end here choir boy!"

[@Fourtytwo4242]

James: "I bring love." English: "he brings love, break his legs."

[@gegecry]

Quote from SAO abridged? I LOVE IT!😂

[@warlordtitan5633]

Absolutely love Louis and William working out their convoluted plan for Europe in the background and trying to fit James in somewhere so it'll cause fewer problems. European politics at the time were such an utter shitshow and I love it.

[@thomasrinschler6783]

You can see they have the genealogical chart out for the Spanish succession.

[@ronanmurphy9426]

The balance of power! The balance of power!

[@Emil.Fontanot]

At least they fucking knew what diplomacy is then.

[@kurnugiakurn3567]

We honestly need a william of orange vid. Just to finish the english civil war and louis 14th sagas.

[@KaiHung-wv3ul]

@@ronanmurphy9426 By Jove, I think we've done it!

[@sircoloniser5454]

fun fact: the Pope actually sided with King William over King James, even holding a celebratory mass upon news of William's victory at the Boyne. the pope later changed his opinion when parliament cracked down on Catholic rights

[@inqy8339]

Papal politics can get downright *weird*

[@aslandus]

James: "I'm defending free exercise of religion and am Catholic" Pope: "I'm backing the winning horse." William: "No more rights for catholics." Pope: *surprised Pikachu face*

[@sircoloniser5454]

@@aslandus more the pope was at war with France and James was France’s ally. Plus William initially wanted tolerance, though he didn’t really force the issue.

[@neilbuckley1613]

@@aslandus I suspect William would personally have allowed Catholics some rights but he had to placate a very intolerant Parliament, Even when the more sympathetic Charles II was ruling lots of Catholics were put to death due to the "Popish Plot" despite Charles trying to reason with Parliament.

[@cooperross9495]

"When I voted for the leopards-eating-faces party, I didn't think leopards would eat MY face!"

[@gamingforever9121]

Moral of the story, when someone offers you the crown of Poland you take it.

[@lyalllupin8789]

It’s been a while since Britain had a King James. Probably because it was a name brought by the Scottish Stuarts. The following German houses seemed to favor George.

[@JackRackam]

Somehow got a new King Charles though! The Windsors seem to be pilfering names from all sorts of dynasties

[@danielsantiagourtado3430]

​@@JackRackam Yeah, very happy with that myself Charles II the merry monarchs was cool! Shame he didnt have legitimate children😅😅😅😅

[@lyalllupin8789]

@@JackRackam True. And funnily enough, if and when William becomes king, he’ll be the first William since William III of England of Orange, whom you mentioned in your video.

[@secret5816]

@@lyalllupin8789 You forgot about William IV (reigned 1830-1837)

[@lyalllupin8789]

@@secret5816 I did. Although William would still be the first of his name in almost 200 years.

[@Anders_Lund]

"It may come as a shock to you but I want you to know it's okay. I've felt this way for a long time. It's who I am and I am not going to hide it anymore. I am...a Catholic." "NO." 😂 Also nice to see Louis XIV back

[@Zarastro54]

The timing on that was superb.

[@johnrichardson7310]

I thought that he was going say that he was gay!

[@Devadas44]

This is like a perfect spin-off, and it's entertaining. I love how James II seems like a tolerent but firm ruler, and the english mob is just a hysterical screaming child, who then sees another potential parent, jumps at them and tries to be adopted.

[@murmursmeglos]

Or they could see a catholic ruler carefully laying the pieces for catholicism to once again take hold, causing more civil wars, and giving himself absolute power, and nipped it in the bud.

[@Devadas44]

@@murmursmeglos Yes, power abuse is bad, and he shouldn't do that. Also the catholic church were a different institution in those ages. But i still like thought of religious tolerence as long as people behave. Though, as you point out, "behaving" is the problem. Still, very entertaining 😁

[@freneticness6927]

@@Devadas44 Its like how ghandi was shot by a hindu nationalist for being too tolerant.

[@wildfire9280]

@@murmursmeglos Irrationally, you should add.

[@Madara_Uchiha69420]

Difference is Gandhi was a hell of a hypocrite as well and his ideas didn't make sense at all ​@@freneticness6927

[@VampireNewl]

King James the 2nd is a pretty intresting monarch but also one that has a lot of conflicting interpratations while he is seen by some as a tolerant ruler diposed by people for his French/Catholic background It is also worth noting that King James did belive in a French style Absolute monarchy and many Pro-Catholic/Tolerant moves could be interprited as him constructing a powerbase of people that would support him (e.i. Letting Catholics back into parliment is tolerant but also ensures that he has supporters in the house).

[@danielmaher964]

Yes, the tolerance of a dictator is not a very English tolerance

[@andreascovano7742]

In what way did he believe in a french style absolute monarchy?

[@VampireNewl]

@@andreascovano7742 He was a firm beliver in the divine right of kings and he picked up a lot of French habits during his exile there

[@andreascovano7742]

@@VampireNewl Virtually every monarch at the time believed in the divine right of kings. It does not mean he was an absolutist.

[@theotherohlourdespadua1131]

​@@andreascovano7742 Not to Britain. An entire civil war was fought between the King and Parliament as to how far does the King's "Divine Right" actually is. And that King happens to be King James II's ancestor Charles I. Parliament despite having them back in power reminds the King of the delineation of his powers...

[@lazarusmekhane439]

James II has always been my favourite monarch to think about. I think at no other point in English history has there ever been a man that was so idiotic, and yet so unironically brilliant. I mean, his Declaration of Indulgence was absolutely despised by some Anglicans, because, get this, they feared that there would be Muslims, Jews and Pagans freely practising their religions in England. So while King James II issued the Bloody Assizes, and culled hundreds for disagreements, he also essentially founded the idea for the Freedom of Religion and Thought, also known as one of the core tenets of human rights. Also, I am amazed you didn't even refer to the fact that the main mistress of James II was Arabella Churchill, AKA the sister of the Duke of Marlborough and ancestor of 'That One Prime Minister'. Finally, I'm surprised you didn't mention how James' burial involved the removal of his brain, heart, guts and skin off his right hand, while his body was kept in a wooden coffin, in a lead coffin, in a wooden coffin. People hated him so much that they buried him in the same vain as Napoleon. Those are my main two notes. Honestly though, I could lecture you continuously about how many stupid details and events you missed out (i.e. Judge Jeffreys). Seriously, I love everything about James and his tomfoolery. Great video!

[@Boss_Isaac]

Imma guess that _That One Prime Minister_ is either Neville “I bet on the wrong horse” Chamberlain or Sir Winston Churchill, yes?

[@hyperion3145]

​@@Boss_Isaac Arabella Churchill shares the same surname as a certain prime minister, I wonder which...

[@akramgimmini8165]

So Ciaphas Cain but IRL?

[@Boss_Isaac]

@@hyperion3145 I speed read thru OP's comment and didn't catch the surname.

[@neilbuckley1613]

@@hyperion3145 Arabella and James's son James Fitzjames, Duke of Berwick was a very successful general [for Spain ].

[@samwill7259]

I feel like there should be a focus in terms here. They weren't upset he wasn't oppressing "THEM" enough, IE the Protestant English Nobility that held all of the actual power in England. He got in trouble for not oppressing the catholic church and the peasantry enough, which is much more easily believable. Oppressing minorities and poor people is ALWAYS popular.

[@JackRackam]

Yeah, there was a definite "us vs them" dichotomy, but I think there's still a certain irony in angrily demanding that you and your neighbors have fewer freedoms for the sake of conformity

[@samwill7259]

@@JackRackam I think we lose sight of the fact that Anti-Catholic rhetoric wasn't just normal bigotry. It was CONSPIRACIST bigotry. English people in this time were full on convinced that any Catholic expression of power was a prelude to actual, literal papal invasion and control and that sentiment NEVER ACTUALLY WENT AWAY. There were questions about JFK's "loyalties" when he was elected in the 1960s!

[@Hyndergogen9]

​@@samwill7259 I totally agree. It's important to draw that distinction, because it's the tale of bastards as far back as tales go. "I don't like them, so I want them to be hurt for being a way I don't like" is the foundation of a huge chunk of people's entire ideology.

[@RailwayPenguin]

You got to do one on William III now. It should also be noted that he was not only married to Mary II (James' daughter) but was also his nephew, placing him quite high in the English succession himself. Also, he was like the primary defender of Protestants of his time, which probably also earned him good will among the English. It's a shame that William III and Mary II never had any children, as I think a British House of Orange could have been quite interesting. William III and Mary II were also the only English monarchs to be crowned as co-monarchs together.

[@JackRackam]

I think I'm gonna step away from British monarchs for now (doing some research into Iran and the Byzantines) but they're on the short list when I return!

[@RailwayPenguin]

@@JackRackam can't argue against Byzantine history. However, I have to say that I feel like William's lifelong goal of not letting Louis XIV have nice things would build upon the episode about Louis XIV and this one very well, so I will be holding out hope for it in the future.

[@JackRackam]

@@RailwayPenguin True, I _have_ become very fond of the cast of characters alive during Louis's reign

[@danielsantiagourtado3430]

​@@JackRackam OH You have to do Basil II, the Bulgar Slayer!❤❤❤❤

[@kat8753]

​@@JackRackam oh, please make one about Empress Irene of Athens. That woman was cold blooded.

[@Fordo007]

I love how interconnected the Louis XIV, Charles I, Not Cromwell Guys, and James II are. I just love seeing parts of other episodes from other perspectives. Really shows how history is just all these stories and events happening together.

[@martijnstuart95]

"One day a Stuart will be king of England again" okay I'm avaliable

[@ethanjacobrosca7833]

Well he ain’t wrong! When Prince William becomes king, he will actually be the first British monarch descended from Charles II and the first British monarch descended from James II since Queen Anne. This is because Princess Diana is actually descended from the illegitimate children of both Charles II of England and James II of England.

[@noriyakigumble3011]

Sup stuart

[@vampiregamingyt8754]

William is a Stuart through his mother

[@silenthunteruk]

​​@@vampiregamingyt8754 Yep. Diana was a descendant of Charles II.

[@freneticness6927]

@@silenthunteruk The hanoverians were descended from james the 1st. How else do you think the germans became kings of england. Diana was descended from degenerates.

[@Replicaate]

Ahh, King James II. Either one of Britain's most underrated kings, or one of its worst depending on who you ask and who's writing the book you're reading.

[@Mitchellfw]

It's the child Louis XIV going "I don't do kids" that made me break down into uncontrollable laughing. You're very good!

[@reginleif6703]

Oh good, I didn’t imagine that. 😂

[@enkiimuto1041]

"James takes his brother's advice, which was actually an order" lol

[@Yuric_INC.]

there#s something magical seeing all the videos and people you've talked about re-appear in videos, shows you how connected everything was

[@adrianjohnson7920]

I'd like to see Talleyrand again, he was super cool.

[@novachrono1341]

Like some cinematic universe

[@Hrafnskald]

If you're looking for more "you're too tolerant, we're overthrowing you" leaders, have you considered Khrushchev? While his foreign policy was loud, his rollback of Stalinist terror was a big part of why he got overthrown. Also had some hilariously corny agricultural ideas :)

[@gus-vanover]

"Corny" as in cringe, or "corny" as in maize. Or both?

[@RKNGL]

I mean Khrushchev was less public outcry and more people in power being mad that they couldn't keep as firm of a strangle hold on the public.

[@andrefalksmen1264]

Nikita Khrushchev, like Kennedy, was overthrown for his incompetent handling of the Cuban Missile Crisis was all the saw the entire world destroyed.

[@TheSkyGuy77]

@@gus-vanover I'm guessing both 😂

[@DellDuckfan313]

Well, what about Gorbachev? His tolerance and openmindedness led to the end of the Soviet Union as a state.

[@ThomasTrue]

Pretty good, but you could have brought in the Scottish aspect much more. The Stewart / Stuart dynasty had been on the Scots throne since Robert II, King of Scots 1371-1390, and with Charles I being an Anglican, he believed in divine monarchy. Big problem; Scotland did not hold with divine monarchy. This remains the official constitutional position, and monarchy in Scotland has always been one of contract, whereby the people are sovereign. The 16th century Protestant Reformation was weird in Scotland. It introduced a much fiercer form of Presbyterian worship - no earthly intercessors between God and man - but while the Protestant Lords of the Congregation were the government, the Church of Scotland was not the state church. Well, not officially at least. King Charles I was in fact the first king to impose the Anglican liturgy in Scotland, and you can imagine how well that went down. After Jenny Geddes, a parishioner in St Giles Cathedral, Edinburgh, threw her stool at the Bishop, shouting "Deil colic the wame o' ye. Ye daurna say mass in ma lug." (Devil rot your guts. You dare not say mass in my ear.), Protestants across Scotland signed the Solemn League and Covenant of 1638, demanding religious freedom (also one of the documents which inspired the US First Amendment), and this led to the first Covenanting Wars. Charles I in fact fled to Scotland for support - and the Scots promptly handed him back to Cromwell. Now, here's where it gets interesting. The history books will tell you that the crown was restored in 1660. In fact, in 1649, when news of the execution of King Charles I reached Edinburgh, 9 days after the event, Charles II was proclaimed King of Scots. Then in 1651, the Scots sneaked Charles into the country, and crowned him at Scone, where Scots monarchs were traditionally crowned. He was the last monarch to be invested at Scone. Cromwell had already - illegally - invaded Scotland, and this just angered him even further. Once Charles II was back on the English throne, he became the second monarch to impose the Anglican liturgy in Scotland. There's the thanks you get. King James II of England was James VII, King of Scots, and that is how documents of the time refer to him. His imposition of the Anglican liturgy were the worst of all, and were referred to as "the killing time". Protestants were put down with utter brutality. In a section of Greyfriars Cemetery, known as "The Covenanter's Prison", over 300 men starved, froze, or were beaten to death. And that was just one such instance. This was too much for the Scots, and any support James VII may have had soon dwindled. So it was in 1689 the Scots Lords wrote up the Claim of Right, declaring James to have forfeited his crown, due to being, quote, "a profound Papist", and accepting William of Orange as king. But, and remember this thing about contractual monarchy in Scotland, there was a clause which stated William would not interfere in ecclesiastical matters in Scotland, and only once William agreed to that was he accepted.

[@edwardhoptrough9933]

As a Brit, I do think this is very telling about us as a people.

[@COOCHIE-PUNCH]

Don't forget the French! _“If you travel around occupied France today and keep your eyes open, you’ll see everywhere just how happy and contented the French people are. For the first time they know just what they have to do -- because we are telling them. And that’s the way the man in the street likes it!”_ --Generalfeldmarschall Erwin Rommel

[@ProjectEkerTest33]

*people in general

[@johnnygyro2295]

​@Barnaby Duggan We're screwed as a species, aren't we?

[@isaac3140]

@@COOCHIE-PUNCH imagine taking what a Nazi says here seriously lmao The French Resistance was huge, there was tons of discontent.

[@ProjectEkerTest33]

@@johnnygyro2295 We seem to be failing upwards somehow so maybe not

[@Baileaf11]

“Luv me Religious oppression, Luv me Parliament ‘Ate Catholics Not Racist Just don’t Like ‘em” -1600s Barry 63

[@screamingseal4805]

Oi ,oi, oi whys wez’ stop battering emm????

[@Thecognoscenti_1]

Not only was William III married to James' daughter, he was also James' nephew, he was descended from Charles I through his mother.

[@jamesrobson4894]

I love how cleverly you’ve interweaved this episode with the ones on Charles I and Louis XIV, I feel like I’m witnessing the birth of a historical cinematic universe (HCU) 😂 very entertaining and informative as ever!

[@ramblingrenegade6346]

The phrase "history doesn't happen in a vacuum" has been ringing so loud in my head after watching a few of these videos

[@Darkash150]

I never put together that the English Civil War and the War of Spanish Secession were so close to each other. The 1600's were way more interesting than I thought.

[@ChevyChase301]

Not to mention scanian war and Franco dutch war

[@thomastakesatollforthedark2231]

And the 80 years war

[@OcarinaSapphr-]

@@thomastakesatollforthedark2231 And the 30 Years' War *&* the Anglo-Dutch Wars - and France's attitude when they ended up on the opposite side to fellow Catholic nations was often, "Who said we were going to let religion get in the way of our socio-political ambitions?" Gotta say: the number of overlaps in all these conflicts are wild, yo....

[@DriftingTemperate-pt9uk]

The Great Turkish war was also happening around the same time

[@antorseax9492]

And Nine Years' War and Frondes, and War of Devolution

[@PerryTheOneArmLegend]

Honestly ever since you did your Henry Morgan video, I can't help but just imagine him in the background halfway across the world living out his final years during this time frame.

[@JackRackam]

Glad I'm not the only one! I think his video was the first time Charles II made an appearance so now whenever I see Charles II I think of Henry Morgan. I was hoping I'd have an excuse to put him in the background of this video but it didn't quite pan out that way

[@PerryTheOneArmLegend]

@@JackRackam It's fine, I can imagine you have tons of small callbacks and gags on the cutting room floor. Sometimes I legit do a marathon of your episodes on one massive loop as I drive across the country for work. Keep it up Jack 👍

[@patrickrowan6001]

Given the recent history of European religious wars and how long they lasted, I think jack underestimates the extent to which at this time being a Catholic at all was considered treason to England

[@danielmaher964]

Yes, it gets irritating how rarely people understand that these 'religious' wars were intensely political. Imposing our post-modern pluralistic assumptions is not useful for informing people.

[@patrickrowan6001]

“We should tolerate Catholics” was legitimately considered the dangerous counter-revolutionary opinion in post-reformation England. Opening the door to servants of the pope and the king of Spain to take power?? A threat to liberty and the Revolution!!

[@Hyndergogen9]

​@@danielmaher964 All wars are political, not all wars are religious, what are you talking about?

[@danielmaher964]

@Hyndergogen9 I can't be bothered explaining the history to you right now, maybe some day. I will clarify that my comment relates to the idea that James was "too tolerant" as if he was some kind of Tony Blair progressive. He was cleverly working to restore the absolute power of bishop and king, and people at the time were smart enough to see through his "tolerance". People are not that smart any more and it is irritating.

[@patrickrowan6001]

“People are not that smart anymore” says the KZbin commenter repeating anti Catholic canards from 1686 I said that’s what people believed, I didn’t say it wasn’t a stupid and paranoid delusion

[@thomaswampler6209]

"...and raised in what you might call a broken home." *Monty Python's "Oliver Cromwell" plays in the background*

[@chingizzhylkybayev8575]

I fucking died when the phrase about winning the hearts of the English people was followed up with "he appealed to their intellect!". The funniest part by far.

[@RanadielMarius]

Jack you mentioned back in the Frederick II video that you liked going back to old videos because it was like having your own cinematic universe. I think with this video you have basically cemented yourself as having your own cinematic universe as we now have plenty of crossovers! Sure this is a sequel to Charles I and (not) Cromwell so we expect to see people from them return, but now we have a crossover with Louis XIV and the fulfillment of the prophecy (subtly) planted in the Henry VIII video! Now we just need a team up video and it will be just like the MCU!

[@JackRackam]

I've totally forgotten, what was the prophecy in the Henry VIII video?

[@RanadielMarius]

@@JackRackam Henry proudly declaring "I bet you in 150 years Catholics will be so reviled that the people of England will invite a Dutch prince to invade their country rather than settle for a Catholic monarch." Technically, I suppose it isn't a prophecy, but it was clearly planted as foreshadowing of video 3.5 years later! That's how cinematic universes are built!

[@thewalkingmeat8523]

Am I the only one suprised by the bromance between James and his brother Charles? James had a claim on the throne yet never betrayed his brother and Charles would spend the later part his reign covering for James so he could become King. I think this is pretty unusual, I mean hell James Daughter instantly betrayed him

[@tacticalnuke5673]

Man was so tolerant it caused integer overflow.

[@cgt3704]

So he is bassically like a moderate leader in a polarised country ? Makes sense

[@rogerreger9631]

Whos Catholic, the worst flavor of Christianity you could get in your ice-cream of politics

[@cgt3704]

@@rogerreger9631 Very bad for the people to throw SHADE at him because of that. Its like they criticised him because he tripped off some stairs

[@rubemartur8239]

@@cgt3704 "tripped of some stairs"? John 6:48-53 Those words were for eternal life, and practiced 1 Corinthians 11:18-34. Be careful when doing jokes.

[@OneTrueVikingbard]

8:30 Carolus XI: “You said ‘double Dutch’, not ‘double *cross* the Dutch’! How *DARE* you! We’re both going to hell for this.”

[@greenacadian4197]

Jack: "I do love a good Paradox" Me, currently playing EU4: "...good coincidence"

[@faded_ink3545]

And thanks to this we’re now plagued with the Orange Order.

[@jon-paulfilkins7820]

"The Crazy person is the entier English population"... * Looks around * Not much changed then.

[@bandie9101]

did not they claimed Charles the I "traitor" because he fight in the civil was with domestic army, but they are not traitors because inviting a foreign one?

[@antorseax9492]

Because Charles fought against 'England' (it was the New Model Army that did that, btw, not Parliament) and they did it for 'England'. Also, James never fought William in England - his army left him, so he 'abdicated' by 'attempting to bring anarchy to England' by disbanding the army, cancelling elections and throwing the Great Seal into the Thames.

[@joaovitorreisdasilva9573]

It is always good to be reminded that people might've a different take away from what they learn, because seeing Jack being somewhat surprised (which was probably more of him trying to put an emphasis in this particular thing) because with as little history knowledge I have I can say there are plenty of examples all around the world of people just being fucking stupid and fucking over reasonable people '-'

[@TarsonTalon]

I could explain easily why that is: If a king is too nice, and isn't oppressing people, then people no longer have outside excuses for their own miserable existence. For the sake of their own ego, they HAVE to have an excuse besides themselves.

[@temkin9298]

"We are terrible. King is too demanding. If he was magnimious, i wouldn't be sick from working." To "We are terrible. King is too dumb to opress us. If he was more cruel, i wouldn't have become fat."

[@loganicfilms1388]

I want to see a alternate scenario where he did choose Poland.

[@nebulan]

Apparently, the stuart/stewart family had a ton of descendants in the US and I'm one of them

[@beth7935]

Oh, there'd be millions of us worldwide- I'm Australian, & I'm descended from an illegitimate son of James V, which I like cos James V's mother was Margaret Tudor... That's centuries ago tho- more recently, 50% of my ancestors were convicts, lol.

[@nebulan]

@@beth7935 hi distant cousin! :D

[@beth7935]

@@nebulan Hiya from the other side of the world! Do you know which king you're descended from?

[@nebulan]

@Beth&793 nevermind it gets the stewart name back later cuz.... yaaaay. In 10 generations the stewart name gets added back in 3 times... and I'm pretty sure they're all related. Yay to be descended from European nobility. 😒

[@adrianjohnson7920]

@@beth7935 If you had even one grandparent from Western Europe or of Western European extraction , you are 100% guaranteed to be descended, legitimately or illegitimately, from Charlemagne. It's a statistical genetic thing. For real.

[@Zeruel3]

There was a chance for restoration, when Queen Anne was on her deathbed her Secretary of State and Lord High Treasurer reached out to James II's son offering to help him gain the throne. They told him that converting to Protestantism would pretty much guarantee it. He said no The current Jacobite claim (the heir of James II) will eventually pass to the future Prince of Liechtenstein, so James's kin will sit on a throne again, just not the one he wanted so badly

[@adrianjohnson7920]

Well, there's still Poland. . . .

[@asnekboi7232]

@@adrianjohnson7920isn’t Jesus the king of Poland

[@timfortune9]

It hit me later that the 3rd part of the "England Trilogy" covering the Glorious Revolution wouldn't be William III and Mary II, but James II.

[@Tinandel]

The title instantly reminds me a bit of Tywin's little speech to Tommen in Game of Thrones, when he goes on at length about all of the traits that make for a good man, and then explaining why they do not make a good king.

[@michelwardynski6498]

Great work, as always. This channel never disappoints. What was it the Sun King was saying towards the end of the video? “King of Poland”? “Inside man in Saxony”? I’ve been waiting for you to cover him. His story is a perfect fit for your channel.

[@JackRackam]

Oh I made a video on him a few months ago!

[@michelwardynski6498]

Augustus the Strong? Prince Elector of Saxony, elected king of Poland in 1697?

[@JackRackam]

@@michelwardynski6498 Oh no, not him, I thought you meant Louis

[@dmman33]

Awesome video! The Late 17th Century is absolutely fascinating and needs more love! You forgot to mention that James II as Duke of York took over Dutch New Amsterdam. And it was named after his title…New York!

[@JennieKermode]

According to legend, Charles II did a fair bit of sleeping around too, with two of his mistresses remembered in a popular rhyme. "Lucy Lockett lost her pocket. Kitty Fisher found it. Not a penny was there in it, nor a ribbon round it."

[@bluegum6438]

I wonder if it is a metaphor in some way or if it's just a mnemonic, looks like doggerel to me Interesting!

[@namae6637]

The museum I work in has one of King James II’s battle standards from the Battle of Ramilles. The museum is owned by an order of nuns that were invited to Ireland by King James in the 1680s, and one of his fleeing soldiers left it with them after they themselves had fled back to Belgium.

[@pasckaujer]

Love this guy!

[@jeremyofficer5038]

This ties in with my family. Supposedly one of my ancestors saved King James II's life

[@joelkilchoer4238]

“Finally, I have purged all the Levelers and True Levelers and anyone who wants social change from any position of influence in our republic. I cannot foresee this possibly leading to the strengthening of reactionary forces culminating in the return of the monarchy.” -Oliver Cromwell, about to invent the comedic smash cut.

[@thomastakesatollforthedark2231]

Tbf wouldn't people who dont want social change during the lord protectorate be his supporters?

[@sirrliv]

This is why history is awesome; it's all so batshit crazy! Just wait until Jack gets around to the Saga of the Four Georges and the run-up to Queen Victoria.

[@danielsantiagourtado3430]

Ah yes, jimmy didnt get the protestant memo and his line caused trouble. Please leave a comment jack!😊😊😊😊

[@staytuned2L337]

Always a good time when Jack uploads 🎉

[@Jalu3]

If memory serves me Princess Diana's lineage has Stuart heritage. Therefore Prince William, once he is king, will return a Stuart to the throne.

[@thenablade858]

Both Charles and Diana had Stuart lineage. George I was a direct descendant of King James I. When they say Stuart, they mean a direct descendant of the male line. By this logic, James I would be considered a Tudor because his great-grandmother was Margaret Tudor. But he’s a Stuart, even though he’s of Tudor heritage.

[@palastofhistory4026]

True Prince William is a direct Descendant of both king charles II and James II/VII

[@tyrongkojy]

Really surprised you didn't use a pic of Winnie The Pooh for Ping.

[@JackRackam]

Aw you're right that would've been good

[@antorseax9492]

His name isn't Ping

[@Grort]

Whelp, he's done most of the weird and whacky Stuarts, I think there's really just maybe Queen Anne and Bonnie Prince Charlie left that would be of much interest.

[@stevejohnson3357]

Strategic prorogation is still a thing but it's usually the politicians who do it to avoid defeat. Former Canadian PM Stephen Harper did that successfully. And provincial parliaments of prerevolutionary France are only prorogued but many of the members have passed on.

[@Attacian]

I absolutely love it how petty the English are about not wanting a catholic monarch. 😅

[@redcoatgaming4141]

Well who would want a Catholic they are a bit shit with their every sperm is sacred codswollape

[@dukeoffrance2063]

Finnaly something on James II/James VII He is one of my favourite English/Scottish monarchs (Idk why)

[@wuba5456]

algorithm comment! I love your stuff

[@JackRackam]

Thanks! 😃

[@dylan.t180]

Love your videos so entertaining and informative

[@cloudkitt]

It's always weird to me how (relatively) immediately the English public took to vehement devotion to Anglicanism given the super transparent motives behind its founding. Did it even start off with any different theology besides "the king can divorce as many women as he bloody well likes?" I can only guess it was more about the "not being beholden to some guy in Italy" thing than theology?

[@danielmaher964]

Yes, it was political not theological

[@petergray7576]

It's more like "not being beholden to some guy in France". Louis XIV was despised by the English for his absolutist pretensions, constant interference in his neighbors affairs, and his nonstop wars for expansion. After he was defeated during the War of Spanish Succession, the English kinda cooled off on their Anti-Catholicism.

[@neilbuckley1613]

Very inaccurate, firstly the Church of England was initially Catholic in everything except that Henry VIII replaced the Pope, even so Henry VIII faced a massive rebellion, the Pilgrimage of Grace which he brutally suppressed with thousands of deaths. It was under Henry's son, Edward VI that the Church started on the road to Protestantism and that provoked a further rebellion. When Edward died after 6 years Catholiuc Mary ascended with overwheming support. Mary did screw things up by her violent persecution of protestants arousing sympathy for them. Nevertheless under Elizabeth the Protestants had to accept a compromise preserving many Catholic aspects in the Church and the country slowly turned protestant over the next 40 years.

[@stephencannon3140]

Forget the content/subject……..the Animation and voiceover/narration is the real star of these videos…..Keep it up Jack!

[@hishamhilal8332]

Mate I love this channel

[@darthutah6649]

TIL That the freedom fighters in the glorious revolution were fighting freedom rather than fighting for freedom.

[@oliversherman2414]

Literally all of England: "How dare you not oppress us?!"

[@King_Steffon_II]

PLEASE do a video on Emperor Go-Daigo of Japan and his failed Kemmu Restoration. That would be a hilarious episode 🤣

[@l.o.b.2433]

"And the crazy person is the entire English public" So not much changed then, eh?

[@cheydinal5401]

A time when the protestant Christians banned christmas and weirdly enough protestant Christianity was actually banned in Scotland

[@ElBandito]

Why would anyone choose fighting in England over lazing around in Spain?

[@adrianjohnson7920]

Masochism? 🙃

[@Jo3man96]

The current prince of Wales is a direct blood descendant of one of Charles II illegitimate children through his mother, so you could kind of say that if he ascends, there’ll kind of be a Stewart on the throne again. Kind of.

[@HereticHub]

Another banger, Jack!

[@bazzfromthebackground3696]

Sometimes you're handed the short end of the stick. Sometimes you're beat with it.

[@jbee9361]

It's strange - he doesn't get much of a look-in in English history. Always glossed over in schools so this was great to watch

[@markmclarnon7035]

I'm from a town called Omagh in northern Ireland, it has a bridge that James crossed moving towards Dublin, he also burned the town down

[@lerneanlion]

Hmm. The idea of King James II became the King of Poland sounds very interesting. Maybe he has what it takes to reform the Commonwealth for the better!

[@petergray7576]

It's not a good idea. Louis XIV had been trying to usurp the Polish throne from John III Sobieski, which resulted in a complete breakdown in relations between the Commonwealth and France. Using James to usurp another kingdom's throne soon after losing his throne was terrible optics, and James knew it. At any rate, installing James as Polish King would have complicated the massive war raging between the Austrian led coalition and the Ottoman Empire.

[@lerneanlion]

@@petergray7576 But England and France have good relations with the Ottoman Empire. They're not going to join Austria, who are under the Habsburg's rule anytime soon. And the last time I checked, the Habsburgs were the enemies of England and France back then. Also, yes. They will come to the aid of the Ottomans for sure if a war broke out.

[@akramgimmini8165]

What a Lad

[@HolyknightVader999]

The king that New York was named after. What an interesting man.

[@thomastakesatollforthedark2231]

Wait WHAT

[@Funnybriton]

@@thomastakesatollforthedark2231as the younger brother of the heir to the throne James was known as the Duke of york. He defeated the Dutch and won “new Amsterdam” for Britain. It was then renamed for him as “New York”

[@Mr.PepeSilvia]

Jack Rackam counts as school...except it's fun

[@degamevlog1219]

Good video, but one small point. The Netherlands didnt have a king, but a stadholder.

[@Winzton4Lif3]

1:49 LMAO.

[@martijnstuart95]

Phrasing

[@AlejandroKaplan-hr1vi]

The Stuarts never learned their lesson

[@martijnstuart95]

Sure didn't 😉

[@Funnybriton]

They did that’s why Queen Anne died in her bed having secured political union and victory over Spain and France. Also the Hanoverians are obviously descended from Stuart princesses who witnessed the folly of acting out of step with the population. The dynasty name passes through the father but the Hanover claim to the throne comes from their Stuart blood.

[@DalariusPVP]

13:50 Everyone knock on wood rn

[@Greener221]

Hate the new title trend like you wouldn't believe. But I'm glad you're still making Purpleeyes references.

[@JackRackam]

Lol, always a good day when someone picks up on those references What's up with the titles? I feel like the normal way I'd title it would be something like "They Deposed Him for Being Too Tolerant | The Life & Times of James II"

[@Greener221]

@@JackRackam The old way is explaining who/what the video's about. This new trend of title and thumbnail says nothing about either.

[@pastorjillk]

So when is Bonny Prince Charlie?

[@gregmiller9710]

...i LOVE your Monty Python references....^^

[@KonstantinValentix]

6.24 that caught me off guard, but in the grad scheme of things it isn't...

[@caligjl]

5:38 I started giggling like an imbecile when I saw the canned cranberry sauce on the table

[@sanneoi6323]

"James the Sh*t" THAT’S SO IRISH LMFAOOO

[@user-ii9bl6de2j]

@13:58 the prefect analogy doesn't exist! "Shhh! It does now you sweet summer child."

[@andreascovano7742]

Also james II was a very succesful admiral and defeated the dutch under his brother charles II multiple times. He is the reason new ork is called new york and not new amsterdam

[@OcarinaSapphr-]

He was also very brave during the Great Fire, I believe- Charles put him in charge, after the mayor proved an absolute dingus...

[@nerdlingeeksly5192]

I wanna see someone thanos snap their parlament out of existance next time you cover a subject about monarchs dealing with elected representatives.

[@ryanadams0922]

I JUST WATCH the Movie Cromwell a few days ago and it talks about the king. What are the odds Jack posts a video talking about the subject?

[@JackRackam]

I still had a hankering for more of England's shenanigans after making the (not) Cromwell video

[@ambufan3242]

The thumbnail could be easyly a monty python joke

[@mhug162]

" This King was Dethroned for Being Too Tolerant (to his own ingroup for entirely selfish reasons)"

[@lil_jackgamez8992]

Bruh that intro is funny