10 Things You Didn't Know About International Trucks

[@steiger256]

I love the looks of the old International trucks. The Paystar 5000 was always one of my favorites. The 6x6 Paystar cement trucks look tough.

[@3rdfarmer86]

Nothing will ever beat a fully mechanical DT466. Reliable, easy to work on, and sound great when straight-piped

[@thomasalary6406]

We have a whole class of bench engines at school and they’re all dt466 and a couple dt466e for learning about direct injection

[@callofdutyguy9]

DT466 SUPERIOR, Cummins INFERIOR.

[@Super_Canadian]

International made some sweet looking trucks back in the day

[@chevyon37s]

Tyler Trego yup they used to look damn good. Always loved the International trucks from the 40’s and 50’s along with the scouts in the 60’s and 70’s!

[@wilburfinnigan2142]

I learned to drive in 1955 at summer camp in a 47 KB 5 !!! Big 6 flathear and a 4 speed "find em and grind em" non sycronized trans !!! You had to want to drive real bad to drive that thing !!! Yeah I learned to double clutch gear jam that SOB !!!!

[@ernstnaumann6318]

1:46 I've often been in Germany and I have rarely seen an International truck. McCormick, IH and Case tractors are quite common in Germany and in the Netherlands. In the house where I grew up in the Netherlands, the black boxes in the fuse box had a symbol much like the IH logo. My mom said it stood for three phase current. Later when I saw IH tractors I called them three phase current tractors, though they were diesel, not electric. It now just comes to my mind that my mom was wrong in that. The logo (letter H with three vertical bars) on the black boxes in the fuse box stood for Holec, a Dutch electric installation parts manufacturer.

[@rickreid81]

Love the 90s DT466 engine they made.

[@GregsWorkshopOregon]

530E FTW!

[@bryanmartinez6600]

And then the crashed into a wall with the failure of Maxxforce

[@greg657]

Cornfield Cadillac.

[@HubertofLiege]

Corn binders

[@Bigben-pz8bx]

Freeway farmall

[@kevinbaker8102]

When I see a Lonestar I think of Maxim overdrive "it's a clown truck"

[@RJ1999x]

Only to clowns

[@kevinbaker8102]

@@RJ1999x" HEY BOZO"!!!

[@kevinbaker8102]

@Jason Lee Trater if they are going"retro" what'd next??" Donald duck" truck

[@J-1410]

see the IHC D, K, and KB series.

[@phillipjames2775]

That was a western star

[@oldbloke100]

My old man had a KS5 and a AS182. I had a 530A ACCO all in Australia.

[@john1cheree]

Got my first cdl in a cab over international back in 1977. Good trucks.

[@chevyon37s]

Video idea: 10 things you didn’t know about Jack’s chrome shop...

[@jackschromeshop8296]

Soon

[@TPB-OPA]

Yay, do you make chrome in a shop?

[@47485ksc]

I've owned 18 of them starting in 1977. I have 2 today, #17 & #18. Nothing too big, light to medium trucks between 1948 & 1974.

[@stacydornan9765]

Worked for International for 15 years,best trucks built in my opinion

[@paulcooper221]

Lol

[@CattleRustlerOCN]

The burning truck in the movie is a scale model

[@7viewerlogic670]

Yes, it kinda resembles an old Ford COE.

[@Colt-tf6xf]

7ViewerLogic or maybe a Dodge

[@7viewerlogic670]

@@Colt-tf6xf Could be.

[@DrOldsmobile91]

Yeah they used a lot of Miniatures in the making of the first two terminator movies.

[@kevingilroy]

I came here to say that. It can be seen nicely in the behind the scenes making of Terminator.

[@kresimirmilisa5560]

matty very nice video about international trucks.

[@dennisbisconti4583]

I love the international transtar 4070As and the transtar 2 4070Bs some of the nicest looking cabovers ever made

[@johnnyhawkins43]

I learned how to drive semis in an old wore out International COE back in the seventies and not much worked as far as the speedometer and tach and fuel gage and the shifter flopped all over the place even when it was in gear I was 15 years old at the time had to be 1972!

[@shadygingergarage]

"Terminator" fact correction. They never blew up or burned a full size truck in that movie. The "truck" they blew up was actually a scaled miniature that was pulled by a string. The "truck" had to be rebuilt once as in the first take they accidentally pulled the steer axle off of the truck in the first take. Also, I believe, that the miniature has more of an early Ford CL series look than that of a "bullnose" Pete or KW.

[@jamesbreithaupt5138]

Great videos on trucks, keep up the good work

[@jamesbreithaupt5138]

My neighbor drove a 4070 cabover for a period of time.

[@cerberus_the_rapper3096]

Though I find the Lonestar to be absolutely hideous, and consider it one of the worst redesigns ever.....the 9400 is one of my favorite trucks, bar none.

[@johnnyhawkins43]

They shure made some good pickup trucks back in the day!

[@bigbud7356]

Agreed on the intersmashable inteerior

[@danielaguirre2516]

One thing you missed... my uncle also drives an International Truck (but traded it for a Freightliner). And in 2020 a new game called “Spin tires snow runner” will feature a International cabover for one of the truck options.

[@bruh1694]

I have the game and the transtar kinda sux

[@chevylandt.v]

So that explains the funny looking grille but unusual,so cool in my books.

[@glennmcgrath2510]

In Australia, a 90's model Inter had a nickname of yabby ( shrimp ), all shell and no gut's.

[@INT9400IISX]

Is a 2005 9400i considered a long hood truck?

[@jddiesel7409]

How about the opening scene of terminator? The garbage truck is an international. I think it's a cargo star 1850.

[@chevyon37s]

Only bad thing about the modern international trucks is the interiors are the cheapest junk you’ve ever seen.

[@truckerron]

You didn't know that International is known as InterTRASHinal to the intelligent people who have had experience with them!

[@adventureguy4119]

Trucker Ron oh my yes yes yes

[@donaldbartram6315]

Drove a few over the years, Had a new 82 Paystar tri-axle dump & one of my favorite trucks was a 2010 Prostar, drove it for 4 years 410K with hardly any prblems

[@jodyreeder4820]

Ever do a story on Mack, Ford, Dodge Semi's?

[@jackschromeshop8296]

We have one on Mack already: kzbin.info/www/bejne/lZKoend3o9qhZtk

[@rogeralsop3479]

Most interesting.

[@asherdie]

#11 gm and international are now building trucks together

[@Lilfarmrboy]

Apparently GM didn't notice the hell Ford went through when working with International on the last few years of their partnership...

[@asherdie]

@@Lilfarmrboy that was self inflicted by Ford with their influence on the design and demand for more horsepower. The International versions had fewer problems, but International wasn't in a cock size competition with horsepower.

[@Lilfarmrboy]

Actually Ford didn't have much say in the matter. Both companies agreed that a new motor was in order as the 7.3 liter was getting long in the tooth at that point. International designed a motor for its school buses and Ford was an afterthought. If you remember back in 2003 there was a period where you could get a Ford with either a 7.3 or the new 6.0 in the redesigned Super Duty. International didn't have to meet the new tougher EPA requirements when the motor was used in its school buses hence why they did significantly better (yet they still suffered from overall design flaws in the buses also) vs. Ford pickups which did have to meet those new tougher EPA regulations. I will never know why folks still want to say "but Ford designed it" when it was the EPA requirements that were the problems and International didn't account for them. Case in point years later International had to stop using their MaxxForce engines in their over the road trucks and go back with Cummins because those motors were garbage also because International couldn't meet the EPA regulations.

[@asherdie]

@@Lilfarmrboy ford demanded more than rated horsepower and their own programming. Yeah, I remember. Read up on internationals position, we have all heard Fords damage control.

[@Lilfarmrboy]

@@asherdie I well aware of Internationals position on the mater. I'm also aware their position on the mater doesn't add up to known facts. Take Ford out of the equation though. The past several years International has been teetering on the edge of insolvency according to industry insiders. They had to run back with hat in hand to Cummins for reliable engines and their quality control has gotten so bad that some companies that bought exclusively from International are now buying from the competition.

[@masonmaceachern1858]

They also made pickups for many years , I have a 1965 half ton

[@blackdog1960les]

she forgot to tell you that Ford and Navistar had a falling out over Intertrashional motors (6.0 ,6.4)

[@chevyon37s]

blackdog1960les lol yea... international did a real bang up job on those engine designs 🤣

[@claterpillar1]

Also forgot to mention the new class 6 international trucks have chevy cabs , and Isuzu engine options. And the new topkick's come off a Navistar line. What tangled webs they weave.

[@kevinlesch9656]

Actually the real dispute started over the old 7.3 non turbo from the late 80s. There was a bad batch of blocks out of Mexico that would develop holes in the block if coolant conditioner was not used. International has told Ford all along to use coolant conditioner but Ford never told their customers. When they started coming back under warranty Ford sued navistar. Navistar won and the relationship continued because international was making money and Ford needed time to develop their own motor. Rumor has it all the problems with the 6.0 was intentional because navistar knew Ford had their own coming.

[@roncronenwett6545]

@@kevinlesch9656 The 6.0 had the screwed up egr cooler design and then Ford put in some nasty coolant not made for diesels It would plug up the oil cooler I had my 6.0 for 11 years and not had the issues that other people had .The diesel gods were smiling on me LOL

[@J-1410]

@@kevinlesch9656 Also IH told ford it was a junk engine but for said "good enough" as they never put it in their trucks

[@captainredneck0683]

I'm surprised it wasn't brought up that International basically invented the flat floor cabover for the North American market. Freightliner just copied it with their Argosy afterwards.

[@adampatterson5475]

The truck in the movie was a scale replica

[@jerrystevenson3572]

what about the 9370 conventions

[@chumbawaumbacumpa]

The Lonestar is the PT Cruiser of semi trucks...

[@majeaguacatero5044]

3:18 shocked this was added into the video

[@edilson1234567890123]

In Brazil they own the MWM diesel. They try to manufacture trucks in partner with Agrale (a local tractor and truck manufacture) but they stop the production after a while, I don't know why. Here in Brazil the market likes a lot the 9800i model. I think that will be very improbable they come back, since Volkswagen buys 30% of Navistar. Volkswagen is the second major truck manufacturing in Brazil and they don't want another concurrent.

[@DaddyStarbuck]

I remember the behind the scenes video for terminator and it showed they blew up a miniature replica. Not a real truck

[@edwu8253]

If only they could make a reliable 12L thru 16L engine 🤔

[@J-1410]

What about the J.V. engine?

[@MrJayRetrogaming]

You have to love the $hit boxes 🤟

[@tjsells9288]

Im from fort wayne an it is truely sad to see the international facilities get tore down... So much history gone for profits

[@mariosalazar3851]

Falta el Ramírez r 22???

[@fredricktonetti2707]

Are advanced cabs international trucks tiptronic

[@glennso47]

When did International stop making light duty trucks?

[@HubertofLiege]

Got a forties vintage international truck with gull wing hoods if anyone wants it, need it gone

[@J-1410]

K, KB, or KBS?

[@HubertofLiege]

Don’t know, got it free for the box. It’s ex navy

[@J-1410]

@@HubertofLiege so like ww2 era or civilian type?

[@HubertofLiege]

J. A. G. Don’t know just says us navy. If you’re interested I could look for a vin but it’s pretty rough.

[@J-1410]

@@HubertofLiege well there should be a tag under the hood on the passenger side...if that helps. Kinda curious now

[@brianaustin6184]

I know ever since I started driving one I’ve been visiting the chiropractor every week

[@jackschromeshop8296]

😂😂😂

[@highjix]

I don't know about that, but I used to own a Freightliner box truck that I drove for right around 10 hours a day, my back thanked me when I got into my personal vehicle at the end of the day. That truck sucked so bad for ride quality, I ended up selling it to another guy because I suck at business, he told me he would take it cross country, that thing nearly killed me going just next door to Alabama, I don't envy anyone driving that across the nation.

[@rogerbalmer9585]

The NAVI in Navistar stands for North American Vehicle Industries !!

[@rogerbalmer9585]

In Oz, IVECO stands for Italian Vehicle Every C---t Overtakes !!

[@604h22a]

Unfortunately my work truck is a international 😫

[@hihaveaniceday9386]

Lol my dad has it worst my dad has a frieghtliner only thing not broken is the Cummins engine and the Allison transmission

[@Aleiria13]

IH has had a STRONG influence sense I was a little girl, and my friend Ira has a ‘49 International L series tri-axle semi he wants to give me because I want to restore that truck. 👍🏽❤️😉

[@jackandsusangerstner1369]

49 is not an L series, sorry , if anything it is a KB series 1 thru 12 , and a 14 that nobody has seen ( cast iron radiator grill ) saw one at macungie , Pa

[@joeinthebush]

Binders never had a high resale value... But everybody had / has one...cause they don't quit.. Tractors or trucks...

[@dave06278]

Wasnt the truck burned in the movie an old ford cabover? Sure looks like one to me. Actually that got me curious so I just watched the whole clip of that scene. There are a couple of interior pics in that scene that isnt an international and sure looks like an old cabover ford. My dad worked for a guy who had an old ford just like I think that was from and my grandpa happened to have an international just like the one you see also in the scene. I'd spent lots of time in both trucks and am almost 95 % positive that's what was done.

[@7viewerlogic670]

Good job with the nicknames!

[@atx-cvpi_99]

The MaxxForce engines suck.

[@highjix]

Yea, Ford dropped international because they wouldn't pay their half of the warranty payments for the issues with the international supplied engines in the super duty trucks, Ford had to sue them to uphold their end of the bargain which is probably the main reason Ford decided to bring the engine and transmission program for the super duty truck in house because the power stroke engine had become a joke engine as made by international. I wanted to get into hot shotting and called a company about using a ford super duty to haul freight with them and they told me they would not use any driver with the power stroke engine because they couldn't be bothered with broken down trucks on the side of the road with their freight, they suggested a cat swapped engine super duty would be just fine or preferably a heavy duty Dodge with the Cummins engine.

[@rdekort9273]

They are not sold in england and not in germany,not in europe at all

[@sgtthilo9716]

International in Germany? Haven’t seen one yet

[@lonewolftrucker99ky90]

2019 if it don’t say kenworth or Peterbilt don’t bother!

[@donaldbartram6315]

Yeah because they suck! Stereotypica a hole where only paccar is a truck

[@highjix]

@@donaldbartram6315 Considering I see more Freightliners and volvo's on the road it says volumes about his comment doesn't it.

[@adventureguy4119]

Their new trucks are jump. 95% will agree

[@lukebecker1959]

International used to make good looking trucks now they don't

[@antiquetractorgarage3123]

so are we going to ignore the fact that ih truck back in 1953 was THE first company in truck markiting to make a surburban???

[@Bag0fRats]

The Chevy suburban was around in the late 30s

[@Robinallenyukon]

the Canadian government gave them millions to design and build the new models in Ontario Canada ..... as soon as the line was up and running with no bugs they moved it all to Mexico !!!! just another pos truck now !!

[@rustyshakleford7002]

They screwed us in Springfield Ohio too, lying cheating bastards.

[@J-1410]

Well with the ongoing labor problems, like at GM and Mack/Volvo, can you blame them? Even in the recession they have to make a profit. To make things worse all they have is Trucks, busses, and engines, they don't have massive parent companies that can keep them afloat. And besides they're in the process of coming back to the US.

[@yllegacytv6593]

My international truck made me a millionaire in 4 yrs

[@highjix]

I would love to hear that story, did it cause some kind of issue and you sued for millions?

[@dwk7375]

The S series was the last International truck,

[@billyuhlir3783]

There never has been or ever will be an engine worse than a max force pos. What a shame. The dt 466 was a good engine for its size. And it wasn't all emissions problems. Pure junk.

[@J-1410]

The DT466 is a 40-50 year old engine...

[@jaysmith1408]

Good old MaxxNoise. When they were in a good mood, they ran fine. Seldom were they in a good mood, especially below freezing.

[@ssingh9152]

So what about integrity and reliability talking about the max force series of trucks that lead to the lawsuit??? 🤷🏾‍♂️🤷🏾‍♂️🤷🏾‍♂️

[@GregsWorkshopOregon]

You forgot “Intertrashional” as a nickname.

[@J-1410]

@@johncholmes643 Runs quite well with one on the back

[@jadebrecks]

You left out how they screwed over the city of Ft. Wayne several times and almost killed it once. The international factory area is still hurting from when they left.

[@jackschromeshop8296]

Sorry to hear that! We’re not too far from you!

[@jadebrecks]

@@jackschromeshop8296 where about are you guys? I'm just outside New Haven.

[@J-1410]

Was that the one they closed in the mid 80's if so they had a good reason: Bankruptcy and a crash in the trucking markets and agricultural markets

[@jadebrecks]

@@J-1410 they didn't close they moved those jobs not eliminated them. They also took a lot of money from the city after to keep there testing and engineering here then defaulted on the agreement.

[@J-1410]

@@jadebrecks closed the plant, did they not? I know in one city they were having union issues and literally couldn't afford to have it there. Either way if they couldn't afford it, they couldn't afford it

[@Sergei_A_Shevtsov]

Thank you very much from Russia

[@jackschromeshop8296]

You’re welcome!

[@TPB-OPA]

On a more inappropriate note, some of the international trucks have Been given the naughtier nickname of 13 letter s*** spreaders. Wow, pls don't do that!

[@hthouston3924]

#1 only because military don't want to expend money to bring it back so they ordered something disposable 😂 When I found finance company for my truck they clearly said we will not gonna finance ProStar.

[@highjix]

oh? then what do you own if I may ask.

[@hthouston3924]

Happily own long nose Peterbilt 379.

[@highjix]

@@hthouston3924 Nice, I used to run a freightliner box truck, but I have no since for businesses

[@hthouston3924]

Any make can cause problems if not maintaining properly so key is maintain your rig and it will go long way, I never own ProStar but my banker told me about it that's why I don't buy that engine.

[@lach3424]

Didn’t they stop making internationals because Iveco and case bought them out?

[@oldgreen100]

No, but Traton (Volkswagen) made a buyout offer January 2020. No news yet on whether they will sell out or not.

[@Lilfarmrboy]

Love my old International tractors but their trucks are another story. They used to build great trucks but ever since the EPA started cleaning up emissions their engines have been crap. One of the biggest reasons they lost all of Fords business. The 6.0 and 6.4 liter diesel engines built by International were complete garbage.

[@boduke9428]

That's true of any modern diesel engine. The EPA ran Cat of of the business and neutered everyone else.

[@timeverett7828]

International. pure garbage ... I am referring to anyting made after 2000. Everyone that I know in the trucking industry switched either to Volvo, Peterbilt or Western Star.

[@timeverett7828]

@The94GTC you are right

[@J-1410]

Explain their market share

[@timeverett7828]

@@J-1410 most purchases are by institutional users. Large purchasing departments that are not the end user.

[@J-1410]

@@timeverett7828 and your point?

[@timeverett7828]

@@J-1410 suits buying trucks. Not operators choosing trucks.

[@jackschissler255]

It’s to bad they could not produce good engines. Now the vehicles they make are not good quality like they used to be.

[@bryanmartinez6600]

I think I see far more Freightliner and Volvo on the road than International.

[@highjix]

In another video they said that Freightliner has the market share of new truck sales, but yea, I liken Freightliner and Volvo to Ford and Chevy, you see them so often they just fade into the background, it's when you see other brands that you go wow, there goes a Pete.

[@bryanmartinez6600]

@@highjix international left a really bad experience with Companies with the Maxxforce series and also affected Ford's reputation with the 6.0 Powerstroke/VT365 and 6.4 Powerstroke/Maxxforce 7. The Maxxforce 7 only had a single turbocharger while the 6.4 Powerstroke had sequential turbos. I do love the appearance of the Lonestar trucks, by far the most unique truck out there right now. Mack's new trucks look pretty good too. The most rare truck to see are cab over engine, I wish they still had those around.

[@highjix]

@@bryanmartinez6600 You can have cab overs, I am a fat man, I am glad I don't have to climb into one of those, all I can see is me breaking my neck in the attempt. They mainly had volvo's at the school I went to, and two freightliners, one which was broken and the other that broke. I once looked into hot shotting with a company, they told me they wouldn't touch a navistar powered super duty with a 10 foot pole, he said something about "no use sending 2 trucks for 1 load. He told me if I had a cat swapped super duty, he could work with me, but preferred Ram heavy duty trucks

[@gary19222]

For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son in that whosoever believes in Him shall not perish but have everlasting life. John 3:16

[@danzmitrovich6250]

International 7.3 idi diesel engine and they start and run like a farm mule

[@rickprobst5757]

Figures shitty ass Ford company would have to partner with a Big Boy trucking company to help Make them look bigger lmao

[@jasonwalding9402]

Buy a kenworth. Please!

[@tonyaparker8563]

every intl i drove was junk ,,,, never again

[@rogersanchez9635]

I drive a max force engine that had no balls it felt like it was loaded with 20,000 empty biggest piece of shit in the world

[@Cubanguy1977]

International and respect lol..only people that respect international trucks are mechanics because it keeps them making money lol...worse damn truck ever made

[@paulferguson2574]

how bout Intertrashonal

[@jackschromeshop8296]

😂😂😂 love it

[@RJ1999x]

Rather childish

[@thegreenerthemeaner]

@@RJ1999x I guess you have not been around a Terra Star. The emission system killed an absolutely good engine, the 466. I personally know of 2 of them that had engines replaced multiple times during the warranty period. I also know of several replaced in motor home chassis multiple times. Far from what they used to be. Several truck body manufacturers refuse to use International because of their unreliable medium platform.

[@DLSWV]

👍😉

[@dreamchaser8508]

When they said nicknames im thnkn🤔...they forgot "13-letter shitspreader" but then they covered it nevermind lol

[@WARD5KUSTOMZ]

To me the lone star is just ugly

[@dzlf2504]

Shorten this up for you. Old ones cool. New ones suck

[@millionmiler]

The last good truck international built was the 9900 otherwise they just like Ford made cheap and spend more time in the shop than on the road

[@jalopyrips8081]

Junk

[@martyb6903]

Bad wiring harnesses Bad wiring harnesses Bad wiring harnesses Bad wiring harnesses Bad wiring harnesses

[@nonsequitor807]

Ive always like internationals but I don't like the way the sleeper top connects to the lower section. Looks second guessed...not thought out. I could take or leave those two gay looking windows. Drove a lot of them when I drove city fretight

[@moelll]

Shitternational

[@Hogger280]

They don't get much uglier than the lonestar model.

[@largecarken8504]

Terrible at making modern engines.

[@murph55]

international trucks are the biggest piece of crap on the road!!!! i hate them

[@flalingbashers2957]

Terrible trucks to drive