Revisiting GTA 4 in 2023: Is It Actually Better Than GTA 5?

[@Changing4Better]

Bro the fighting in GTA 4 is SO much more fun and satisfying then GTA 5.

[@Boooozle]

I miss having multiple parries

[@burgerking8475]

Yeah the fighting and shooting was so good in 4

[@scottmerric2180]

Fun Fact, Bas Ruten did the mo-cap for Niko’s fighting moves

[@Yewchoobarkontz]

And the gunfights.

[@onlybestgameplays8144]

you can just turn off mouse control and fly on keyboard while you look around with mouse

[@namdarshafiei547]

Escaping from a high wanted level by running through alleys and switching cars can feel really exciting and fun. It's my favorite part of the game. Also, killing Playboy X will give you a safehouse, an outfit, and Dwayne will be available as a friend. Dwayne has a "call for backup" ability that can be unlocked by hanging out with him. Killing Dwayne will only give you 25k, and Playboy X disappears pretty much.

[@JacksGameReviews]

Oh absolutely it’s great fun but I do want a little more with gta 6 :D

[@biohazord2522]

I'm just about to start this game today thanks for the heads up 🎉

[@v.c1134]

​@@biohazord2522each friend and date has special abilities mate, I use Kiki to erase my wanted level more than I'd like to admit lol

[@ease3715]

Lol I took the 25k

[@exiledhebrew1994]

Dwayne is a terrible person. All he does is complain about his life. He’s mad at everyone else because he got locked up. But that’s no one else’s fault but his own. He even put a hit on his own girlfriend. His goons suck too; they die quickly

[@buckhead40z]

For those that have any taste, they will acknowledge that GTA4 is by far the best game in the series, and legitimately one of the best games of all time.

[@Carlito_Brigante93]

Absolutely

[@AdhavR7]

yeah its the third highest rated game of all time behind tony hawk's pro skater 2 and ocarina of time

[@CursedAnqxl]

not necessarily, I mean I like gta 4 but it isn't right to make people have to like it because I know not everyone will and it is a bit mean to say those people that don't like gta 4 have bad taste because of it. people will have good reason to prefer other gta games or not be really into gta at all, it's simply an opinion at the end of the day and we shouldn't try to make it objective.

[@AdhavR7]

@@CursedAnqxl yeah of course its not for everyone

[@Unlucky_Luckiest_Bastard]

​@CursedAnqxl you're right about that. It's a personal preference but boy you can't tell that to GTA 5 fans. All these games do good with what they offer players and people like what they like. To me GTA 4 is a great game especially with its darker themed story and it's a different feel compared to the other GTA games that feel the same for the most. GTA 5 feels like the previous games with new gen graphics but damnit it takes away going to Burger Shot lol but in all fun all of the GTA games are good but 4 has that dark element that makes it stand out more than the others

[@gtaatmiami]

I just started re-playing GTA IV on my PC after re-playing GTA V and I completely agree. GTA IV is my favorite. I was surprised how great the physics and car damage is

[@504Trey]

GTA Vice City better than all of them until GTA 6 come out 👌🏾

[@gtaatmiami]

@@504Trey vice city is incredible. They’re all great tho and I used to not care for IV as much until I replayed it.

[@subject163]

And the physics. When you shoot the enemy the body of them react so real

[@Shinigintz]

How are you able play on pc without lag and fps drop

[@subject163]

@justhelad search it on Google Google will help you optimize graphics in game settings

[@OAndreDrumond]

It still is and it will always be.

[@hostilesavage4299]

I think Gta V's 10 yr run says otherwise bozo 😂

[@OAndreDrumond]

LOL quality over quantity, plus I still play both to this day, its not a competition. your comment is hilarious, get a clue and go play that trash ass online HAHAHAHA@@hostilesavage4299

[@alexguyon9148]

@@hostilesavage4299Bozo 😂

[@riley4198]

@@hostilesavage4299ah yes a 10 year run of milking a game into oblivion and microtransactions.

[@JarrylKhan]

​@@hostilesavage429910 year run of rockstar doing nothing but adding shark cards and GTA online turning into Fortnite. Great game mong.

[@Wickedred413]

What I love about GTA IV is how Liberty City is portrayed. Modern-day New York City is a very colorless place to live it's full of chaos and i understand it's not everybody's flavor.But that's part of the NYC experience it's not called the city that never sleeps for nothing.Say what you want about Niko Bellic but believe it or not he's one of my favorite video game characters ever.I have respect for him because he wants to live the "American Dream" and is willing to do whatever it takes to make that dream become a reality. It's incredible to me how beautiful GTA IV still looks,feels and sounds.I highly recommended the game along with both episodes from Liberty City one of the rare good DLCs.

[@LunarWoodProductions]

Irl nyc isn’t as bad, I’ve spent some time there (not vacation wise) it’s alright

[@Wickedred413]

@@LunarWoodProductions I went to NYC twice and like you said it's not as bad as what everyone thinks it is.

[@smoothJose1]

Lol he absolutely hates america and the concept of american dream an capitalist through logical and not brainwashed lenses. Roman believed the dream and only he cares for it. Funny how the only way to achieve it is through extreme luck (gambling) and/or doing crime. Even government sponsored crime

[@AlqhemyA]

Yeah. GTA5 players who say GTA4 is “too gloomy” obviously don’t know how gloomy the East Coast tends to be.

[@cidanarch]

​@@AlqhemyAThey have no understanding of how atmosphere in a video game works

[@robertkorth2911]

Just finished gta4 and both dlc's on pc 3 days ago! Took me like 40 hours. A little clunky by today's standards but definitely well worth playing!

[@JacksGameReviews]

Definitely a little clunky but man does it still feel pretty great overall :D Took me about 20 hours for the original story maybe a little longer

[@IAMthatIAM992]

BOGT was awesome. Brought some of that Vice City funness back to the new games

[@runarvollan]

All you gotta do is point Nico in the direction you want him to enter car or take cover, clunky no more.

[@lmeier48]

I'm with 80h and still don't finished, I like so much the game that i don't want to finish it, hahaha

[@ExquisiteMotivation]

GTA V feels so empty and soulless when playing GTA IV is immersive, had an amazing story actually legendary will go down in history as one of the best story lines for single player, plus the online mode is very fun.

[@frogglen6350]

GTA 4 feels so empty and soulless. Even the carnival is abandoned

[@TheUltimateHacker007]

Over half of gta 5's map is made of Texas.

[@maidenless2110]

Just not true though is it?

[@nasp3984]

If you spare Dwayne you get Playboy's apartment as a safehouse, you get Dwayne as a friend to hang out and his ability sends back up to help you

[@ricksanders3967]

Great retrospective! I feel like GTA4 kinda lives in GTA5's massive shadow nowadays, so it's cool to see it get some love!

[@brucewaynegrandson]

TBOGT improved alot on these problems and the missions are action packed and also has checkpoints

[@GeymHastas]

I love the car driving physics of this game

[@moemorton7442]

Totally! Unbeaten to this day if you ask me. Cars feel so heavy and every corner slide gives you such a satisfying feeling. It’s crazy even in 2023

[@AlqhemyA]

Yeah. GTA5 fans are just mad you can’t turn a corner at 200 MPH and not spin out.

[@austinbatton4849]

@@AlqhemyAwhen you’re actually old enough to drive go ahead and comment, not every car has dogs hit suspension and can’t take corners lmao

[@AlqhemyA]

@@austinbatton4849 proving my point lol

[@CursedAnqxl]

but you do spin out in all gta games if you go too fast and turn, but gta 4 is just mind numbingly annoying with its driving. I don't care if you consider it "more realistic", it's terrible for gameplay. it's simply a fact. also the higher your frame rate, the worse gta 4 driving gets. but ah yes, realism.

[@lanagievski1540]

In V, I never felt compelled to hang out with any of the characters or do many activities. In IV, I always felt like it was pushed more and you wanted to actually hang with these characters. IV just had a slower pace to it but in a way that I actually prefer over V’s faster pace.

[@dchang11]

The setting and mechanics in GTA V really felt like Southern California, while GTA IV had great characters like Roman, Little Jacob, Brucie, Packie, and Dwayne. Kidnapping Gracie was the funniest mission in the game, and the bank robbery was a fun mission.

[@DolarStudioX]

​@@dchang11 WE ALREADY KNOW THAT GTA 4 HAS THE BEST STORY, WE ALREADY KNOW THAT, THEY'VE BEEN SAYING IT FOR 8 YEARS, WE ALREADY KNOW, BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT IT'S THE BEST GTA, EVEN GTA SAN ANDREAS OR GTA VICE CITY CAN EASILY BEAT GTA 4

[@Shilobotomized]

Me personally, I didn't care to hang out with anyone on 4 OR 5. In the case of 5, I knew it was going to be boring because of how it was in 4. Especially with the forced romance system that seems very tacked on, despite being very relevant to the story...

[@jacobbunea3131]

When you become skilled at driving between cars and knowing when to brake/accelerate mixed with the handbrake. Drifting around corners and flying in between traffic is the best feeling

[@boikboikboik3810]

If it helps to say, OP, I concur: GTA IV was indisputably the best story of any of the GTA games, even if V is technically better. Do not forget, too, that it still had police and taxi missions, something I hope VI remembers to restore. I, too, wish they had remastered IV. It deserved a far longer lifespan than its successor. I accept, alas, I am probably in the minority.

[@hostilesavage4299]

This weirdo foreign clown's story is not the best gta storyline... It's actually stupid.

[@hsgame4088]

U tryna immitate a redditor or smth??

[@binodop1759]

Nahh in story gta san is the best♥️

[@davedarius7346]

V isn't technically better lmao, The Cop AI is painful is V but IV is superior

[@davedarius7346]

​@@binodop1759That's ancient, cannot be compared

[@Mister_Ess]

Admittedly, when GTA 5 came out, when I was 14, I thought it was amazing, and rightfully so, but as I've grown and matured, I've realized that GTA 5 is a Hollywood epic action movie, designed with the most ridiculous shenanigans taking place, while GTA 4 was a highly detailed, realistic crime drama. I've stopped playing 5 for the most part, as I've played through the whole story over 10 times and have grown tired of it. I've tried playing GTA online, but have become fed up with the constant micro-transactions and try hard players. I've gone back to GTA 4, playing the game with no cheats, watching every cutscene to better understand the story, and am taking my time playing realistically and paying attention to all the detail. To put it short: GTA5 is an action blockbuster for kids, while gta4 is a crime drama for adults and cinema fanatics.

[@Hidden_lvl]

GTA 5 is more adult based than IV. GTA5 is a GTA game that brought back some of the best stuff. GTA IV tried too hard to be realistic and missed what made GTA fun.

[@k.23_02]

​@@Hidden_lvl That's what makes GTA 4 so good that it was different from the rest of the GTA games. It actually tried something different and it did it well imo and a lot of people do agree too. It may not be for everybody and for people who like the more crazy and wacky side of GTA they will like GTA 5 more but I enjoy both the serious and the wacky. Plus if you wanted that more fun and light hearted side of GTA in GTA 4 you could get that with the Ballad of G** Tony DLC pack

[@wujek7616]

Both are for kids lmfao

[@artistanthony1007]

​@@wujek7616 How? Just because it is CGI and a video game? If so, that's a lame piece of evidence to prove it is for kids.

[@wujek7616]

@@artistanthony1007 let me rephrase, both games are popular with kids, but gta 4 is more popular amongst kids who want to make themselves look different. Both titles are also played by adults.

[@TheLingLingKai]

What I hated most about this game is the lack of checkpoints during missions so if you died half way through a lengthy mission you’d have tore start at the very beginning but other than that I actually really enjoyed this game

[@JacksGameReviews]

As much as I hated that I found it to kind of improve the intensity of the gameplay. Made it harder with more risk which kept me more engaged ya know

[@harperhyatt]

that’s why i stopped playing, it got annoying

[@runarvollan]

Oh meaning raised stakes, risks and rewards?

[@shadowking773]

Tbogt has checkpoint

[@Ireee702]

You have to be very noob then. Missions in this game are not that long, and are not even that difficult. I could understand if you wanted a checkpoint in missions like San Andreas where you have to travel a whole state, but in IV?

[@marboro14]

The car physics and damage models are the best things in this game IMO, I’m gunna replay it!

[@Deeholio66]

I just started replaying GTA 4 last week for no reason other than boredom. I forgot how much I liked it. Hated driving at first but once I got the hang of it again it was a super fun replay.

[@belb5976]

Fun fact: The switchable 3 character idea was came from gta 4 but the hardware and technology wasnt good enough to implement it so it all became a dlc but it all came true in gta 5

[@JacksGameReviews]

Now original Ksi fan that’s a cool ass fact, had no idea that was the case :D Saw his fight against swarmz in London Pineda we don’t talk about lmao

[@Nekoyamanekotama]

no, switchable 3 character idea come from GTA:SA

[@vegeta-77]

​@@Nekoyamanekotamareally? What switchable character would be there then???

[@Nekoyamanekotama]

@@vegeta-77 gta sa originally supposed to have 3 character as playable character with the same switching mechanic that shown on gta v. but the mechanic got scrapped because of the limitation. the playable character probably would be cj, sweet, and cesar

[@refa689]

gta 4 and gta 5 were developed on same console technologies(x360 and ps3). maybe u meant gta sa?

[@HRANCH]

Im near the end of the game on my series x, the gunplay and ragdoll physics make it so fun. One thing I'll always hate about this game is the lack of checkpoints

[@Scarz3ny]

I think a lack of checkpoints is better and more immersive, there's not much point to dying if you only go back a few seconds, there has to be some sort of challenge otherwise its not really much of a game

[@VerminSupremeFanPage]

@@Scarz3ny the game isn’t really challenging because of a lack of checkpoints, it just makes it longer to complete because I have to drive to it and get to where I was. In GTA 4 I could die twice on a mission and spend more time trying to complete it than a mission I died six times on in GTA 5. The difference is I didn’t have to spend 5 minutes driving to the mission again and another 5 to get to where I was in the shootout. That doesn’t make the game more difficult, it makes it more frustrating. There some hard missions in 5 but I never got annoyed at them like I did in 4.

[@MRBOOM-vf1or]

gta iv is my fav in the series and its so ahead of its time i still enjoy it till this day

[@TimeTraveling88]

Not only is it better than 5 but it's better by a lot but I had so much more fun and enjoyment playing 4 and I love the story a lot more. Niko Belic is such a badass and amazing GTA character meanwhile Michael, Franklin and Trevor were cool characters but they had nothing on Nico.

[@VinceVermontCATG]

Another awesome video! Replaying IV was great. On replay, it really made me appreciate both IV & V in their own unique ways. IV was so ahead of its time and V made a lot of refinements to the foundation IV set.

[@Airbigbawls]

idk I feel like the only thing GTA V did was remove good features like having the dumbed down car/helicopter physics and ragdolling. Ofc it did good things, but all it did was bring back features from san andreas and added a character switch system that made me hate two of the characters rather than making the story more expansive. I think the only thing I really liked was the car customization and the weapons. And in regards to the map I prefer IV's, that's really opinion based but still even san andreas' map had more to offer both for style and gameplay.

[@Jo-Wilbe-Dina]

I think Niko's Revenge Goal being set aside for the sake of other more important matters he must prioritize such as earning money by working for some pretty messed up people so he and Roman can survive in the city, was kind of a hidden moral of the story that GTA IV was trying to tell. We probably all have experienced at one point in our lives where we wanted to punch someone in the face because they got away for the mess they've created, and we who were the innocents got in trouble and blamed for something they've done, but instead of preparing to get back at those people with fire in our eyes, we just kind of end up forgetting our main goals and started doing other things that are actually helping other people that we cared about. So the moment we finally got an opportunity to punish the bullies who caused our lives a living hell, it just didn't feel.... ultimate, for lack of better terms. It just suddenly felt underwhelming when we finally got the opportunity to punch their faces in the end, and I think it's because we didn't actually use our time trying to gain some muscles to give a proper and satisfying beating for our enemies despite wanting to do it for like say, 10 years like Niko had, but instead, we spent the whole time with our families, making friends along the way, and working for money like a normal person in the real world. That's why Niko's _"Revenge,"_ didn't actually feel like the point of GTA IV's Revenge Story overall, but it was the time that was spent trying to prepare for that Revenge we've been wanting to get all this time. And throughout GTA IV's story, besides the countless amount of killing people and driving around the city, we've actually made new friends, learned so much about them, and even got a few laughs and giggles here and there, when the truth is, we should've been spending the whole time looking for the people we hate and preparing ourselves about what we should say to them and how we should punish them. That was the sweetness and light-heartedness of GTA IV hidden in plain sight under its dark atmosphere, violence, and harsh story. Even though Niko also experienced some more betrayal in the main story, he didn't really try going after Dmitri until the very end, because as much as Niko wanted Revenge for those who betrayed him, he's also trying to get away from that violent and cruel nature of him killing more people deep down, like how if you call Roman after killing Ray Boccino, Niko just straight up expresses how he tired he feels to his cousin asks him about how much can he go on in dealing in death like he sounds depressed, which is why he ignored Dmitri when he first betrayed him, but the moment he killed Roman, that was something Niko will not ignore, not like he could anyway, Niko even says it in one of his Dialogues. Just goes to show there was more to GTA IV's Revenge Story than just Revenge, because what is a Revenge Story, without the friends you lost along the way. More often than not, Niko spending time with Roman and working so both of them can have money to survive is what helps him avoid this whole Revenge goal of his, and just helps him focus on the people he has right now who are still alive and whom he finds happiness which serves as a Good kind of Distraction from what is a Seriously Bad Ambition or Goal he's trying to achieve... well, unless some bad dudes who betrayed him came in and killed one of his loved ones, thus disturbing that peace and bringing Niko back into achieving his Revenge Goal more than ever. I've said this once, and I'll say it again. GTA IV's Revenge Story is more than just Revenge, and it's a lot more well-crafted, and brilliantly well-written than people who already try to make it out to be, like me. GTA IV is truly a Masterpiece.

[@HansyPants184]

Just played through IV fully for the first time a year ago and it instantly became my favourite GTA game.

[@_------------_]

you really killed dwayne? monster!

[@travisbicklepopsicle]

I just started playing GTA IV, was installed on an Asus laptop I've had for about 14 years , and I got to say, it's amazing. I remember I started playing it years and years ago but never really got into it. Did a couple of missions and then quit.. decided to start playing again just for the hell of it, and damn. Yeah, game is gold. Can't stop playing now!

[@SonicSpeedster2020]

The DLC for IV (weirdly enough) has checkpoints, and it can be a godsend sometimes. The final mission also has one checkpoint, likely because it's the longest mission in the main game

[@mattdedasc]

this was great. I would pay full price for a remastered version. The driving dynamics are spot on. I can't play GTA V now as it feels too arcade like

[@bradydavis5791]

It's literally better than GTA V in most ways. The story. The characters and setting. The writing. GTAV is a significant drop in quality.

[@VerminSupremeFanPage]

Please elaborate on how GTA V is a significant drop in quality

[@DolarStudioX]

Yes, but in GTA 4 you can't get tattoos, you can't cut your hair, there are few clothes, few cars, you can't tune cars, there are no planes, there are no bikes, there are no tanks, few weapons, there is no minigun, there is a smaller map where there is nothing to do, the gameplay is too slow, clunky and boring, the missions are repetitive and slow, the driving sucks, the grey colors make it even more boring, The city feels boring because there is always a huge silence with a background sound that repeats over and over again, there is bad optimization, a lot of lag, unnecessary realism, very simple radio and etc.

[@UnoccupiedBoat]

Story - GTA 4 Fun, Creative - GTA 5

[@math3capanema]

@@DolarStudioX your really dont understand liberty city

[@Mucky_Muck]

@@DolarStudioX You do have some good points, but whenever someone says that driving in GTA 4 sucks it makes me laugh. The game is 16 years old and still to this day NO ONE has managed to make better driving experience in any non simulator game.

[@promark5317]

I still cant believe how cool and immersive it was to have a complete working subway system. Also, sitting in the back of cabs looking out of the windows at Algonquin during the night is magical.

[@theleehasleeway]

The beginning when Roman is drunk by the taxi, it’s supposed to be playing “Ein shine shine, chickey chickey shine aye ey” but they removed that for fucking copyright stuff. I just find it so dumb that for videogames, developers don’t make a deal with music people to just get the song and let it stay. Basically the entire Russian station has none of the songs we remember now.

[@samuelgeaney7556]

Agreed. Limited time licensing is absolute nonsense. It's in the game it's part of the games vibe it should be there forever

[@MostlyPennyCat]

Hey, remember when Hollywood movies had to release new versions of their movies and remotely modified your Blu-Ray because the licensing deal for the music expired? _Exactly!_ 🤬 It's bullshit

[@ness-z7s]

I have to disagree on this one. The gray and brown colors fit the story and the protagonist’s vibe so well. It’s sad and melancholic, and honestly, it hits even harder when you hear him talk about his past. he came to America expecting this amazing new life, only to fall back into the same old patterns, stuck in this void he can never escape. It’s like the colors reflect his reality: dull, repetitive, and hopeless. He thought things would be different, but he’s just doing the same stuff he always did, and that makes the whole thing feel even more tragic. The visuals and the story just work so perfectly together to show how he’s trapped, not just in his life but in himself.

[@FinnSwede906]

GTA IV is the best written story in the series and the attention to fine details in recreating NYC are still pretty mind blowing 15 years later. IV and San Andreas are the most replayable to me but IV edges out SA because once I start playing IV I feel the need to beat it as where San Andreas first 10 or 15 hours are usually what I go back for

[@CuttinInIdaho]

Yet the dev's claim it was "so depressing" when they made it...They should go deep into philosophy to find out why it's soo good...yet 6 is WhoaKeAF...funny how everything changed

[@jozefabrahamovic753]

"deep philosophy" lmao you don't need to be Einstein to understand the game buddy... @@CuttinInIdaho

[@CuttinInIdaho]

@@jozefabrahamovic753 lol

[@ave0828]

I love GTA5 but man.. GTA4 just feels more alive IMO.

[@potato4534]

I need this game and red dead to be released for ps5. No remakes just 4K 60 fps

[@SonikPanther]

Someone get a stone tablet and fucking carve what this man said into it

[@thewillyman5401]

At least red dead got a rerelease

[@potato4534]

@ I played the hell out of that

[@DocOrtmeyer]

I think that rockstar thought that it was too realistic but it was really good. I don’t like what they did in 5

[@marekkos3513]

I skip GTA5 , and still play GTA 4

[@davidjacobs7465]

A nice little detail about tolls: you don't pay the toll when you're driving an emergency vehicle. Like a police car or ambulance.

[@Unlikelihood]

gta iv is just an awesome time capsule. it's like traveling in time where live was easy.

[@deadeyegtagaming]

life*

[@storm4963]

life was not easy in 2008

[@clister.]

14:44 counterpoint in this mission you dont have to brute force attack. you can blend in as a doctor and "flatline" anthony. and one mission to kill in Mr. Fuk restaurant, you can shot the tyre of the car (that will be used on escape) before attacking so when the target escape I kid you not, they escape with flat tyre and hitting anything xD. (in the next playthrough I use bomb from packie and blow it when the escape) I remember those two vividly because I just felt happy that I can do that without the game tells you.

[@clister.]

22:30 And man, I will not forgive anyone who choosing to kill Dwayne. him and X story maybe insignificant, but Dwayne is easily the most empathetic story for Nico. if you follow the cutscene you will understand. how X always sees Dwayne as bother, and Dwayne just need a friend and trying to get back together from zero after prison. and yet GTA still gives you choice which to kill who?! dayum this mission maybe just a test how many people skip cutscene or just finish GTA asap.

[@Schulstand]

Not only is it possible to do this mission undercover, it's hard to look at him be at the lowest health while fighting in a hospital. There are healthpacks everywhere

[@mcvizualprofit]

19:30 this bit had me dying lol

[@JacksGameReviews]

I can’t even lie I was laughing pretty hard once I edited that Glad someone noticed :D

[@johnbartlett8643]

How this game hasn't been remastered is criminal

[@hypez1819]

I’m gonna buy a PS3 with GTA IV with TBOGT and TLAD alongside Black ops 1 and 2 😁 can’t wait to have chilled weekends with the PS3 like the old days again 🙏😮‍💨

[@OfficialSKLTN]

I actually love the drab atmosphere Liberty City is portrayed in GTA 4. I actually tend to bring the vibrancy down just enough to where yes things are more grayish, but say its a sunny day the little bits of color that are there really tend to pop against the gray overtones

[@Jared_Wignall]

This is the best GTA game in my opinion. The story and characters alone raise it to the top of the list for me. Such an incredible game from beginning to end.

[@angelillomadness844]

I will never forget the first time I play GTA IV. I was mersmerize with the driving, the graphics, the physics (want to say sorry for all the citizens of LC that I ram over sometimes during these 15 years). It is a masterpiece with its flaws because there´s no such thing as perfection. I´m agree with you in most of what you say in your video (nice job btw) but for me spare Dwayne is one of the best things in the game. You just need to hang out with him to discover a really sad history and how well done this character is. He gives you the best safehouse and bring you support with some fellas that still loyal to him on the streets. I would like to have more missions with him or PX after spare one of them as you said but it is what it is and still delightful. Keep doing good ;)

[@John-996]

Playing again still great. The fact that the side quests are not marked is great gives a sense of discovery The Side activites add allot to niko. The choices you make can lead to Other side quests, Dating Kiki can lead her to messing your car up if you get caught cheating. The Physics are great and getting Drunk is lots of fun Plus the story is also great. Its great game all ready.

[@jorgieofficial]

i always felt like gta 4 story was wayyy better, but i felt like the open world activities were where gta 5 excelled, golfing, tennis, parachuting, flying, etc.

[@greenman776]

being gritty is what makes gta 4 gta 4

[@Karthik-pn2yj]

why is this man using mouse controls for helicopters

[@tacticalmattress]

This game definitely deserves a faithful remaster but I'm scared as to what they would do to it. Looking at the definitive edition.

[@britishmadman_5]

I was thinking of buying gta 4 on steam on my laptop but not sure if it’ll be worth due to the issues mentioned in this video, should I still get it?

[@TDBKolio]

Watch the GTA 4 Optimization video by catsmackaroo. He covers performance fixes that ACTUALLY work.

[@br.m]

On PC I couldn't play this game. It runs very badly on my PC. That's disappointing because it's a great game. When GTA V came out, I tried it and didn't like it so I bought GTA IV. I wish it ran better on PC but it gives me a headache. It's way more fun than V but if felt like a slide show on my PC

[@kingcrimson234]

GTA IV with the handling file modified to make the cars accelerate just a LITTLE BIT faster and corner just a LITTLE BIT better equals probably the best driving simulation in a video game outside of literal dedicated car games. Also, yeah easily best story, best protagonist and most alive world in the whole franchise. Overall, the best GTA game. I've played through it many times! Graphics aside, this 2008 game has aged incredibly well.

[@Mucky_Muck]

"Realistic Driving and Flying" mod is what you need to make handling and overall feel of driving a little bit better. It changes just enough to make cars feel more realistic and less bouncy, but not enough to make them feel arcady.

[@alcheronn]

The gray and brown pallette is on purpose, its to showcase the actual "american dream" usually the map is much brighter but sometimes everything is gray and empty

[@zackakers9855]

Bummer that the licensed music keeps getting cut out of the game. :(

[@JacksGameReviews]

Very true, you can get mods to fix that but I didn’t feel like making the effort lmfao

[@zackakers9855]

@@JacksGameReviews still a great game. :)

[@1977TA]

I think a great update to the wanted system would be the adding the necessity to change your character's appearance/vehicle in order to completely escape the cops. For example, in order to escape GTA 5's wanted system you simply have to remain outside of the cop's search cones for 1 minute. Once the cops give up the chase a cool feature to add would be giving them the ability to recognize you and pursue you again if you are spotted wearing the same clothes or driving the same car you had in the previous chase. The only way to completely escape would be either jumping into another vehicle or changing your clothes before you cross another cop's path.

[@Killadelphia-MMG]

One of my top GTA games! Loved the driving felt so much more realistic and the damage to people and cars was top notch considering the time this game came out vs GTA V! Forever classic I hope we get these mechanics back for GTA 6 😭

[@NotKnafo]

it is better than gta v for one sole reason you can get out of the car without turning off the engine

[@mcnuttington7122]

Been playin it the pass few weeks and the story and map depth are insane and the animations is still better than fuckin starfield💀💀

[@bungle3912]

Really good video, nice work

[@MrJasonGallant]

You can throw grenades further by hold the throw button for a second. Also, if you kill playboy, not only do you get his penthouse but Dwayne will send you an email and if you reply positively to him, you can hang out with him. If you do decide to hang out with him, not only do you get to know his story better, he also gives you the ability to call backup. You also absolutely need to hang out with kate quite a few times to understand the relationship that you, as the player, and Niko has with her for her death to be impactful. I actually cried when she died. Niko truly loved her. She was his only shot at living a normal life. When I first played the game, I felt I had a meaningful relationship with all of the characters as I made sure to hang out with them until they had no more dialogue to say. It really does make a difference as now, you know their backstories and the relationship between them and Niko. It also develops Niko's backstory quite a bit. Driving around the city and seeing NPCs carry out their lifes is amazing. There is always something happening. Even walking around can be entertaining. They can be really funny at times.

[@biohazord2522]

I read that to get Dwayne as back up you have to let playboy X live? 😮

[@MrJasonGallant]

@@biohazord2522 no, you need to kill playboy, once that's done, Dwayne will send you an email saying he wants to hang out with you. You need to reply positively or otherwise you will not be able to hang out with him. Once that is done, he will call you later to do something. You only need to hang out with him a few times. He will eventually call you to say that you can call him if you need help. Dwayne won't help you himself, he will send two guys to help you as backup. They aren't incredibly helpful but they're better than nothing.

[@biohazord2522]

@@MrJasonGallant great thanks for the response 👍

[@MrJasonGallant]

@@biohazord2522 You're welcome

[@deedeewinchur]

GTA IV has the best characters. They all have their reasons to be how they are, it makes them all interesting and I can relate to most of them, even the less important ones (Kiki, Hossan, etc) or the most annoying ones (Vlad, Manny). Characters in V are just a bunch of despicable aholes and fools, the worst being Trevor : a violent ruthless psycho yelling rudely all the time... 😖

[@19374hklmaq]

GTA4 remastered would be insane !

[@deadeyegtagaming]

Will be.

[@revanentyt7697]

yes it is. by a long shot. one of my favourite games of all time. the remade Liberty City has such a true living feel about it. played so much I stopped using taxis and started getting trains where possible. the view across parts of the city from the train is really impressive. I also like the faded dirty autumn colour pallete of 4 aswell.

[@whysoserious9535]

Gta 4 is the best story line out of all the gta games the whole game was a masterpiece for its time I pray that one day rockstar remaster the game for nextgen with fully updated graphics and gameplay

[@scottmerric2180]

GTA5 was such a big let down to me after 4

[@leadawwwg]

You don't get the fancy mansion if you kill dwayne And you can call him to come fight with you too . But yeah great video, looking forward to re playing and tbogt

[@JacksGameReviews]

Oh I know the amount of comments pointing that out is kinda outrageous Might be one of the worst decisions I’ve made but I’ll accept it :D

[@leadawwwg]

Haha sorry, i guess if you side with playboy you wouldnt know, still a very cool video learned a lot ,thanks :) ​@JacksGameReviews

[@BlackArroToons]

Good game but GTAV improved a lot. For GTA4, the on foot gunplay was a bit rough, as I wasn't able to run and gun in the game like you can in GTAV. Here it's more like walk and gun unless they fixed it. The car brakes were rough, locking the car in a straight line many times. The bikes pivot on a center axis, which makes they a bit weird to control.

[@TheGuyWithStuff]

All 3 things you said are incorrect.

[@moneyman64]

@@TheGuyWithStuff 5 is better deal with it

[@petersmith1591]

5 is way better. GTA4 has aged like dogs shit. Clunkiest shooting controls ever

[@VerminSupremeFanPage]

@@TheGuyWithStuff as someone who was introduced to the series by 5, 4 is clunky as all hell. my first thoughts when playing the game was "the driving, movement, and shooting are clunky as hell" and i dropped it. I picked it back up later but man 5 improved so much upon 4s gameplay, everything in 5 feels so much smoother, and thats ignoring the checkpoints which makes the missions 100x better

[@trevorphilips9065]

@@petersmith1591You just suck at it

[@doshi066]

i wish they would remaster this for current consoles, i would love to own this game again on my ps5, it was my first gta game and i beat it twice, loved it

[@nuguns3766]

It's 60fps on Xbox one and later. Get it dude!!

[@roninfredo6844]

GTA IV, The Lost and Damned, and The Ballad of Gay Tony will always be my pick over gta v.

[@Rdon_Ranger]

22:17 Not entirely true bro. If you kill X you get his house, Dwayne becomes a friend and if you take him out a few times for a drink etc he offers body guard service for you which can be useful in some missions 💯

[@Paul83121]

*Big spoilers in this comment, be warned* Great video. You did miss a few things that would have enhanced your experience in my opinion. If you kill Playboy, you get his penthouse. You also become friends with Dwayne, who has a very cool perk if he likes you enough. He sends you an email asking to hang out, which is easy to miss. You have to reply positively to the email, and your new friend is unlocked. There will be some interesting dialogue between him and Niko whenever you go do something with him. He is glad to be free, but is still very negative due to the long time he spent in prison and the realisation that everyone from his past has dropped him, essentially leaving Niko as his only friend. After several conversations Niko tells him to be more positive. Normally this would be a harsh thing to say to an ex-con, but Niko gets away with it. He was a soldier in his teenage years, so he's an absolute authority on having to live with past trauma. These optional friendship outings really transform Dwayne from a stereotype to one of the more interesting characters in the game. If you spare Darko, there will be some interesting dialogue between Niko and Roman during the drive home. Niko realised nothing would change if he killed Darko, he would just be dead like everyone from their squad. This doesn't mean he's suddenly at peace with his past or anything, but it does set up the point of Niko being able to move past betrayals if revenge doesn't seem to really hold any benefits, aside from revenge for the sake of revenge. This last bit is important to my next argument. You get the option of doing a deal with Dimitri for Pegorino , or killing Dimitri. If you do the revenge mission, Pegorino shows up at Roman's wedding and kills Kate, which leads into the ending of you killing Pegorino like you did in this playthrough. If you choose to do the deal, Dimitri will fuck you over once again, which leads to one of his assassins coming to Roman's wedding and killing Roman. The final mission will be you chasing after Dimitri instead of Pegorino. The first one is knows as the "revenge ending", the second one as the "deal ending". A lot of long time fans argue for the revenge ending being the better one, as Niko would never trust Dimitri again, and Kate is less of a loss than Roman is to the player. I actually argue for the deal ending being better, although more bitter. When you get the choice between revenge and deal, Niko gets calls and messages from Kate and Roman. Kate tells Niko she doesn't want anything to do with him if he chooses to deal with Dimitri again. Roman wants Niko to do the deal, because this will make them wildly rich and they can finally live the American Dream Roman has been pretending to live all this time. He wants this all the more since he is getting married to Mallorie. With these choices set up, I like to think Niko would do the deal for his cousin. He loves Roman, and even though he lied to Niko before he came to LC, he has suffered a lot. Niko realises that killing Dimitri would satisfy his need for revenge, but Roman is more important. This realisation aligns with the sparing of Darko I mentioned. I often see the argument that Dimitri betrays Niko so this choice is stupid, but it's important to note Niko doesn't know this in advance. He never really trusts Dimitri of course, but he just hás to try for his cousin. So in this scenario, Niko has tried his best for Roman, but is left betrayed by Dimitri. The wedding is still on, so Niko attends. Dimitri doesn't leave loose ends, so he sends an assassin for Niko. Niko fights him off, but in the process Roman gets killed. This loss hurts infinitely more than losing Kate, which is exactly why it's a far more powerful moment. It's heartbreaking for the player, which fits really well in Niko's tragic story After Roman's death, Niko chases after Dimitri and kills him. This is a far more fitting ending to the story, since Dimitri is essentially Niko's archenemy from the beginning of the game. Pegorino is an annoying prick, but if a few of the last missions had went differently him and Niko wouldn't even be enemies. Niko tried his hardest to make choices that benefitted his cousin. He knows he himself will never know happiness after the things he has seen and done in the Yugoslav Wars, but if he can make his cousin happy he will put everything on the line to achieve that. He puts aside his need for revenge to do this, and still loses out. Roman dies, which absolutely breaks him. Now he has no more reason to let go of his revenge, so he finally goes after Dimitri. He kills him, feeling no more satistied. The only thing he still feels is pain. Mallorie calls him to tell him she's pregnant with Roman's child, so now she has to raise a child without a father. Niko tries to assure her the child will never have any worries, but Mallorie knows a child without a father is going to have a rough life. All in all, the deal ending is just painful and sad. Many players argue that this makes it the bad ending, but I feel it's the right ending. Niko's story is a tragedy. He doesn't come to Liberty City for the American Dream, he comes looking for revenge on someone who betrayed him half a lifetime ago. He makes some friends, but mostly is drawn into a negative spiral of murder and mayhem, and those around him get dragged along. Him trying to be the better man in the end but still losing just fits this story perfectly. It's rough for sure, but it's amazing writing. In fact, it is so well written I believe this to be the canon ending. I believe the writers intended it to be the ending, but Rockstar knew the players would hate them too much. They introduced the other ending to give some more superficial satisfaction, but to me it just doesn't feel like it can really be the true story. So, there's my two cents. I did not plan to spend half an hour writing an opinion piece about a game from 2008. but here we are. Feel free to call me a heartless bastard for choosing the deal ending every time, or question my sanity as I do myself. All good, as long as we agree we should be happy to be able to replay this timeless classic, as terribly ported and neglected by Rockstar as it is. Niko will not be forgotten. Later, cousins. Let's go bowling soon

[@pascalemp]

You should try the DXVK patch for GTA IV on PC, it makes quite a significant performance improvement, especially on some older hardware!

[@korana6308]

Best GTA ever released - GTA 4.

[@Comradpetito]

No. You are nostalgic from 00's and your childhood

[@korana6308]

@@Comradpetito No. I'm nostalgic with real life physics, with real and interesting story, and the best GTA theme ever conceived.

[@bdleo300]

@@Comradpetito Stop spamming the same copy/paste bs. GTA4 is objectively better, only little kids defend GTA5 because they never even played anything else.

[@playboss101]

@@bdleo300 Story is better, everything else is done better in GTA V. GTA 4 takes some physics aswell. But man the mission design was just so boring and repetitive. The first few missions is like how the entire game is mission wise. There's like no creativity. The only thing that is replaced are the ppl you work for. And I get that might have wanted to make a point with it. But ffs its GTA for Christ's sake. Where are the fun missions?

[@Resident_Legal]

I’ve been playing GTA IV since it came out and I still do :) Without a doubt the best and the most realistic GTA game ever made and it features the most badass protagonist who happens to be Serbian like me :)

[@artistanthony1007]

The aesthetic was clearly to represent Niko's perspective and thoughts on life and America, he doesnt see America as an amazing place because of what he's been through and whatnot.

[@nonstickmeat]

All you do is tear apart the game for 20 mins and all the comments are saying how great it is, did everyone not watch the video?

[@KevinFromHPCustomerSupport]

He didn't "tear apart" the game. He presented some criticism, which either stems from personal opinion (which you and me are allowed to disagree with) or the game's age. He also gave the game praise. Chillax, people will always have differing opinions from yours and mine.

[@youngjiggymf1704]

When I read the steam reviews about it being a poor port I didn’t think it’d be this bad. I can barely get through an hour of gameplay without it crashing at some point and you made a good point in that having a beefier pc doesn’t do jack. If it wasn’t for the fact that I grew up loving this game I woulda dropped it already, luckily I only paid like $5 for it

[@nicklopez5401]

All people talk about is the damn physics and forget the huge list of shit missing from 4 that made it boring. It’s a really amazing immersive GTA. One of the best. But 5 is definitely better and way more playable and replayable. Over half of gta 4 is literally Niko going to kill someone and that’s it. Super repetitive. Shit cars. No planes. Smaller map than the ones before it, Online wasn’t nearly as good as 5. No clothes. No car customizations. Money is basically worthless cuz you can’t buy anything. Less weapons. No one ever mentions that shit and just talks about how good the physics are and realistic some parts are lol.

[@bioshockftw123isBACK]

22:12 That’s not even true. If you spare Dwayne he becomes your friend and you can hang out with him as well as getting Playboy’s safe house.

[@robertdeffenbaugh9004]

GTA 4 is way better than 5. People only like GTA 5 because of Online.

[@JacksGameReviews]

Just made a gta 5 review I do agree in some aspects but it’s undeniable that gta 5 made some gameplay changes that are substantial in quality! Still prefer gta 4 myself but in general it was a big improvement

[@Comradpetito]

no, you are nostalgic of ur childhood and 00's era, think about it

[@robertdeffenbaugh9004]

@@Comradpetito No GTA 4 has the best story best game play best characters. People only play GTA 5 to play with their friends online.

[@Mert-38-e9d]

I play gta 4 back in the days hardcore asfck but i think Gta 5 Is the better choice, alone from the configurations in the game and even if many say that Gta online is a pure cash grave, still very fun just because we get over 10 years of content, you can forgive that well. I found the story mode the best of all gta parts had the best incensation, it literally feels like a movie!

[@MostlyPennyCat]

Blasting across the bridges at night just to enjoy the view with the radio on.

[@runarvollan]

You gotta point Nico in the direction you want him to enter car or take cover, and voila! Clunky no more.

[@JacksGameReviews]

Very true but I was on mouse and keyboard Niko had a mind of his own, might as well flipped me off while he dived over the cover I tried to get him to take lmfao

[@runarvollan]

@@JacksGameReviews yes harder with only the 8 directions of keyboard than with analogue controller, but I still feel like I have more control of Niko on PC

[@mariomanno1]

I just completed GTA 4 a couple weeks ago and it cemented itself as my favourite GTA game I've completed (admittedly only the numbered games) pretty quickly. I love the story, I love the characters, it wasn't all too challenging that often to me but I also got the other ending compared to what you got so Jimmy and Mallorie didn't die in my save. I plan on getting to the DLC either later this month or at the start of the new year but it was a really fun experience to me.

[@cyka_delik9537]

You killed DWAYNE?! Wtf is wrong with you?

[@deadeyegtagaming]

Actually, killing Dwayne triggers an Easter egg. Dwayne's ghost 👻 will appear inside of his apartment. However, I've only done this on the PS3 version of GTA 4.

[@cyka_delik9537]

@@deadeyegtagaming wut? really?

[@JacksGameReviews]

Honestly mate, I think that when I’m about to sleep and when I wake up :D

[@jaggedsleepy1229]

Good job I really enjoyed this and subscribed

[@DrNamus]

Short Answer: YES!!!

[@GTAHeavyImpact]

💯

[@JacksGameReviews]

Names coming in with the speed demon answer :D

[@banshotenin1178]

I bought GTA IV again for my Xbox One a few days ago. Loved the game back in 2008 and still am enjoying it even if it looks dated next to GTA V. But to objectively say GTA IV is better than GTA V is asinine. There are things GTA IV does better than GTA V, but also things GTA V does better than GTA IV. There's a reason GTA V was and after all these years still is the fastest selling entertainment product of ALL TIME and every open world game tries the claim they are better than GTA V but always fail by comparison even when they are amazing games, GTA V is still in a league of it's own. GTA IV was also amazing for it's time and is still an awesome game. It feels a bit bare bones compared to GTA V but GTA IV was also revolutionary for it's time and still holds up well today compared to other games that aren't GTA V (and in some regards GTA V itself). GTA V gets a lot of hate due to the predatory and tired nature of Online, but without a doubt I definitely had a lot more fun and got more closure playing GTA V as it was a much more ambitious and vibrant game than it's predecessor. Of course San Andreas is always going to be my all time favourite GTA just because I can also relate more to CJ than any other character in the series but also because it was the most innovative and ambitious GTA as a whole, but GTA IV will always be a great game because it's a great game. Niko is easily the deepest and most nuanced character in the series and that's why many prefer GTA IV, but again it all boils down to preference. It's just GTA V had a similar impact to San Andreas on gaming and no other GTA games have had as big an impact, despite all having big impacts.

[@IAMthatIAM992]

Didn't like IV on launch. Now it's the only one I go back to every few years. Wish they would've kept some of the customization options, duel welding weapons, and side stuff from San Andreas tho. Still much better than V. That game is my least fav in the entire series. Also I dig the physics and lack of checkpoints in IV. It added to the gritty realism of being a desperate immigrant in a gritty situation.

[@tumamamelamam4]

Bro explained what Rizz is in a GTA IV video

[@Jay-ez4sw]

Without a doubt is this game better by x10 gta 5 is terrible trash.

[@B848-p8j]

You made a mistake, Ivan wasn't the guy who Niko killed for insulting Roman's girlfriend it was Vlad and Niko killed him cause he was sleeping with her. Ivan was a guy who Vlad ordered Niko to kill and you're given the option to spare or kill

[@JimJones-q9q]

It is better than gta5

[@BigBadMadDog.]

No other game I've found scratches the same itch that GTA 4 does. One of the greatest games of all time.

[@Critical_Pixel]

GTA V’s story just felt so hollow compared to IV. I get that V is supposed to highlight the current day Los Angeles through the cynical lens of Los Santos, but I just found myself hating the world and its characters to the point where I didn’t want to play anymore. IV’s Liberty City was so serious and broody. Every character you met felt layered and potentially threatening. Not to mention the emergent gameplay you got from the game’s masterfully done physics engine.

[@liltemcheck]

i would give that to you if the characters stayed in the story youll do couples missions than you never see LJ until the end of the game for some reason and ppl like packie and roman these ppl just disappear from the story and its basically you and some type of boss for 70% of the game

[@kevo300]

Well put. Every character had a agenda while 5 you had Jimmy and crybaby Trevor.

[@frogglen6350]

"4's city is so serious" Liberty city is full of satire just like every gta. Yeah Roman pooping himself was so serious

[@abba3642]

Have you discovered the warp zone and one invisible wall dinner?

[@matatoto9805]

No, it’s not even close to be better. Hell, it’s not even close to be as good as GTA V is. Maybe, MAYBE, on the physics department it is slightly better. But on every other aspect, it’s considerably an inferior game.

[@BDozer666]

Bruh please. GTA V barely does anything better, V is a downgrade in nearly every core gameplay aspect. Movement/climbing, AI, police/wanted system, gunplay/melee combat, health mechanics, explosion mechanics, mission/side activity/open world freedom, etc... you name it.

[@matatoto9805]

@@BDozer666 GTA V is far superior in almost every aspect. Period.

[@VerminSupremeFanPage]

@@BDozer666 Bruh go outside. How are you not sick of doing this

[@lancearoni1090]

GTA 4 is a great story and game and my favourite by a large margin compared to all the other games , I still play it today , got like 13 different saves at all my favourite missions,Nico is my favourite GTA character story and to play as as well , all around awesome . GTA 4 is gangster AF

[@jakub.trzcionka]

Oh yes… Was and is amazing

[@JacksGameReviews]

Essentially what I said wonzadon :D Alike thinkers