FGB Podcast# 206: Church of Gaethje IV

[@FizzTheKing]

QUARANTINA SHEVCHENKO what a MADLAD

[@aaronrummycruz]

FizzTheKing Big Brain, BIG PEEPEE

[@j0llyl257]

FizzTheKing absolute banger of a comment

[@AdobadoFantastico]

I died. That was so good.

[@bgateb]

Flawless

[@eoinsweetman9263]

Peach of a line.

[@oLevLovesLove]

20/20 vision Gaethje no longer needs to block punches with his face.

[@eftichismalandrakis]

@@michaelmccarty1327 lmao

[@jameslearing970]

He got the surgery before his UFC debut.

[@Feminismisfornobody]

As someone with experience with both, watching Tony lose is far worse than cancer.

[@anujjyothykumar4667]

I'm still heartbroken 😭😭😭😭

[@horny4violence]

How's the wife situation, Chris? And how's chemo so far?

[@Feminismisfornobody]

@@horny4violence wife had to go back to yanksville last week so we can apply for a spouse visa, but she should be able to come back soon, permanently. and the chemo hasn't been hitting me as hard as 99% of people lol, haven't even lost my hair (tho it's no longer lusciously thick). Got a little under 3 months left

[@horny4violence]

@@Feminismisfornobody Good luck buddeh

[@aussieflintknapping]

​@@FeminismisfornobodyHey mate, did you end up winning your battle? I sure hope so!

[@humanbeing75]

Hearing Jack complain about Waterson and her kicks will always bring a smile to my face. Even better it makes her fights enjoyable because I'm laughing through out it thinking of Slack complaining.

[@msdabrenn]

I've been waiting for this. Salty Cruz bless

[@EthanPowellMMA]

ALL DAY BABY

[@mz4879]

Cruz channeling his inner TJ

[@vipa8403]

bobby mcgee that’s all I could think of when watching his post fight interview “he knocked me out but I didn’t lose”😂

[@straightastudent683]

With TJ, Cody, Dom triad you could call 135 Saltweight division.

[@mr.freeze2681]

How hectic was Tony's mortal kombat sweep though

[@kristiangirotto9125]

@Lasse Brustad GIVEE EM SAND!

[@p4pgoatc.j.watson679]

Damn that Michele Waterson fight was p4p the dumbest thing of all time. They were fighting from beyond Jon Jones kick range. Smdh

[@arsoncrafts136]

I blame Winklejohn gamesmanship.

[@LupeJustinian]

@@arsoncrafts136 they were just practicing Social Distancing

[@arsoncrafts136]

@@LupeJustinian Omg that is the funniest shit I have heard all week.

[@Mr.A..]

Gaethje post eye operation is a different beast

[@jameslearing970]

He got the eye surgery before his UFC debut

[@donutdoney]

How you going to not mention Mitchell’s twister attempts !?

[@goldenboy140]

You didn't mention Mitchell. I thought he looked phenomenal. Him vs Ortega would be a lot of fun I think

[@NorthStrongSC]

Ortega, Kron or Ryan Hall would all be fun

[@goldenboy140]

@@Gultist what?

[@IRidez]

I’m not impressed only cause I mean it’s not like he put a clinic on against a good grappler lol.

[@goldenboy140]

@@Gultist When the time comes that I need somebody to wipe my ass I know that you'll be ready

[@R-YR29]

27:05... why thr fuck you lyyyyin

[@raphaelpetrarca5049]

Yay, this made me want to "try an imanari roll" when I saw this pop up

[@JustPCat]

what sushi restaurant? (Kidding.... Me too tho)

[@joeyreups11]

Lmao

[@timephire]

A rare time when "MMA Math" came into play. Last guy Tony lost to was Michael Johnson and Justin beat him in his UFC debut.

[@user-kk2dw1eh5q]

Coincidental I think mma math is some real bs

[@timephire]

@@user-kk2dw1eh5q MMA Math is totally 100% BS!! ;o)

[@anushgopalakrishnan]

johnson was a legit contender when he beat tony, he was at the end of his career when justin beat him

[@timephire]

@@anushgopalakrishnan Makes you think; Just how good is Conor McGregor?! (oh wait, this isn't a Uncle Chael video) ;o)

[@mikelutz6377]

Yeah but Johnson also beat Poirier and Poirier beat Gaethje, so it doesn't really hold up

[@kingofthemawds9472]

Jack Slack your thumb nail game is goat status.

[@mikeiso8963]

10:01 this analysis aged so well. Gaethje won the Fazev and Chandler fights with the jab. But only after he accrued CTE for 2 rounds in both fights.

[@cryz3856]

Tony’s corner were yes men or maybe even scared of him. Eddie bravo saying “you’re doing amazing” or something along the lines going into the 4th just showed it

[@kevinsmoon3257]

cryz yeah i love eddie but that was bizarre

[@buttonpusher3786]

Eddie Bravo is not the critical thinker I previously thought he was.

[@Tenchigumi]

@@buttonpusher3786 There's only so much you can look into before your brain runs out of capacity. Look into it.

[@funwithoutpants]

Looks like this was something Eddie didn't look into.

[@lance-biggums]

Might have been just trying to encourage him. Eddie was also out of his element because the whole fight was on the feet, and Eddie doesn't know shit about striking

[@nucemgd]

jack I could almost feel your smug self satisfaction when you said re Bravos cornering "...in addition to not wearing his mask"...how many of your neighbors have you reported for not clapping?

[@stormrevenant]

Ferguson was having a ton of success striking at range with front kicks and left straights from southpaw, and threw quite a bit of southpaw double attacks. Justin looked like he was struggling to close the gap. Post rd 1, he abandoned that completely and started walking into the pocket, face-first into counters. Wtf was his corner doing!?

[@ruveng.9058]

To be fair, Tony has had a lot of success with this approach against other fighters. In round 2 his opponents usually get exhausted so he can get close and use elbows and so on but Gaethje was prepared for that. He conserved his energy and countered Tony every time he went forward which Tony wasn't prepared for because so far he has worn out everybody.

[@callumtodd4883]

Any idea why Tony kept jabbing Gaethje in the thigh?

[@CameronPrice2]

Callum Todd Probably trying to find distance/trying to get into Gaethje’s head.

[@spa2damax]

He always does that. Seems like he uses it to keep his output up and keep pressuring.

[@lucaalves199]

Is no one gonna talk about the meme knee punches Tony was throwing?

[@roppedipoppedi4776]

barrel roll setup

[@thomassinclair2210]

Church is in session

[@youtubepeace]

Honestly always thought Justin was just some fun brawler who put it all on the line and would end up exciting but without much to show for it kinda like Eddie Alvarez but holy shit did he prove me wrong with that performance. Dude fought a *smart* fight while still maintaining his unique style...ok we'll stop calling you a brawler.

[@captainawesome4622]

He hasn't been a brawler in his last four fights....

[@s-manx3509]

Been waiting, Jack. You owe us further rap

[@alexjoseph4665]

Went 6/7 on my picks, great card.

[@pizzatrails649]

Alex Joseph that gaetche upset

[@Mikey_Z08]

Same, but werdum went and lost

[@alexjoseph4665]

@@pizzatrails649 Nope. I picked Gaethje, Cruz, Ngannou, Pettis, Kattar, Oleinik & Bryce.

[@Feminismisfornobody]

Thanks jack, still haven't stopped crying thanks.

[@spa2damax]

Never knew Cruz to be an excuse maker, think he has a fair point on this stoppage but Cejudo was masterful and did everything he needed to do!

[@amirtaj4323]

Tbf he did say it was his fault for getting caught with the knee in the first place.

[@dillonsookram7988]

i need that karate boxing guide

[@jackslack7786]

it’ll happen at some point...

[@paulgallagher5092]

@@jackslack7786 Have you got any systema guides

[@tornaclconor5149]

“Is he Eaton or Harrow” as an Englishman this made me cry mate 😂

[@Good.shepherd420]

FUCK yes. This is the one i been lookin forward to. That fight tony looked like the tony i expected before i learned tonys crazy shit works.

[@s-manx3509]

During the Tony fight, as soon as he went for weird shit Justin was outside leg kicking or throwing a left hand. It stunned him a couple of times, and suddenly nothing was working. It was a first seeing him look so uncomfortable. I was literally on the Verge of tears realising he was screwed. I know we can't say he's over, but unless Khabib throws him a bone or he wins the next (I believe either Dustin or Conor), I feel like we've seen the next gate keeper. I didn't see him look particularly different, in terms of the weight cutting effect. It looked more like, as you said, he couldn't get comfortable. And it maybe a bit of fear

[@walkerg1991]

Same dude. I felt the same. It felt so meaningless too, all for nothing. Tony had long since earned his title shot, and didn't need to take this fight, but did for the competition and fans anyway. Seeing him be punched out of his flow when he was supposed to be fighting a grappler for the title felt cold

[@s-manx3509]

@@walkerg1991 exactly. Like Jackie said, it made no sense taking this. It's a gut punch to real fans. But, it's also up to Tony to do what he wants. Let's hope he overcomes this loss

[@spa2damax]

All the feels watching him wince and wobble toward hook after hook from Justin. He just never seemed to loosen up and string things together. He was finally found out for standing still in the pocket too. What a waste. And Justin's wrestling is very overated, can see him getting exhausted and pummeled /decisioned in a khabib fight.

[@ruveng.9058]

If Khabib beats Gaethje (very likely imo) Tony is still the best opponent to give to Khabib since Khabib has beaten everybody else. Dana will insist on the Conor rematch but Khabib has enough leverage to say Tony first, then Conor. Tony has earned this title shot years ago, one loss doesn't erase all of his accomplishments.

[@s-manx3509]

@@ruveng.9058 the biggest issue isn't whether or not Khabib wants Tony. It's who Dana and Ali Abdulaziz give him. And it's his final fight, which he indicated with 30 fights to close off his career, then Dana will want to milk him hard.

[@joeiznang]

The most important question to me is: How hard are Justin's shins? It's crazy the damage he dishes out with those. Tony's legs were bleeding from checking!! I've never seen that!! Wtf , Tony's shins didn't bleed when he was kicking metal!!!!

[@jameslearing970]

He does kicks from real close range, which is pretty rare for MMA

[@chcknpie04]

Jack, I literally cannot express to you how glad I am that you are it’s a crazy, anti-quarantine, ‘the pandemic is a hoax’ type of person. There’s too much of that shit going around, especially in the BJJ community, and I haven’t even dared to look at the MMA communities sub Reddit which I can imagine is a dumpster fire of ignorance. Also, astute observation about Sam Alvey. The UFC keeps him around because He’ll fight anybody, they don’t have to pay him very much, and he won’t agitate for unionization.

[@PrehistoricBeasts]

Imagine watching fights with Jack live.

[@tacoserryday966]

True believers have finally been vindicated. Championship church is officially in session

[@rivertrash9862]

At first I was hyped for St. Gaethje, but I really wished we got Ferguson vs Khabib first. However the more I think about it I'm glad it went down this way. Record and win streak aside this was a much more exciting fight.

[@paigerocks884]

Wish you talked more about Bryce and Rosa, that was a grappling masterclass against a legit black belt

[@tentoolzz6023]

Had to walk away and come back after that intro 😂

[@Weirdbloke10]

I was curious on your thoughts on Ferguson's knockdown ìn round 2. In my eyes that was the only point in the fight Ferguson looked like he was having decent success. He was waiting for justin to engage and then countering he had success a couple of other times in the early rounds doing this. Do you think Ferguson should have stuck with this and adapted rather than constant forward pressure ?

[@buttonpusher3786]

That uppercut that tony countered had a 2 second telegraph on it. I would have been able to dodge it as I reached for more doritos. I feel he should have thrown more sand.

[@dagrimmreepa]

@@buttonpusher3786 I hate sand, it's coarse and it gets everywhere.

[@Fiteclipz]

I feel like tony should just work on his defense and put a bit a pressure on his opponents by working his jab and maybe a front kick or leg kick but he needs to stop leaving himself open, he needs to make sure to stay defensive and pressure his opponents a bit with his jab and slowly break them down until they go in for an attack and then that’s where he should catch them

[@Volttikoira]

Conspiracy theory: Jack is fancying Drew Dober extra hard just to make Dustin Poirier jealous

[@richard-jy4lr]

also flabricio werdoomed is a sad sight

[@andycopland3179]

I work 60 to 75 hours a week and this time I wasn't at work. God is good.

[@TheDXJC56]

I remember when I first listened to you and thought "what the fuck is this guy's problem" and now I'm sitting here anxiously waiting for your recap 😂

[@andrewcrist3249]

Got into a comments beef with some guy saying Cejudo cant headbutt Cruz because Cruz is taller, when he clearly hit Cruz on the temple with his MASSIVE FOD!

[@GeorgeCopperfield]

The title had me laughing before I even clicked

[@APSXX]

Maybe cuz Justin fixed his eyes.

[@regularnormal]

"He's italian, for a start..." Enough said haha

[@joshmailova]

"Greg Hardy is not particularly fat. He's gigantic. And roidy"😂

[@chickenchad9814]

Please on that karate boxing guide!

[@mattc1447]

What was with Tony’s ongoing but clearly ineffectual jabs to Justin’s thigh/knee - they were probably intended to make him think about shots but those didn’t really come. Hate to speculate but if he had jabbed to the face instead I think he could at least have tried to get into the boxing fight

[@REVOisMYname]

Tony only won the round where he threw sand

[@jahigains9201]

I'm disappointed no one in Tony's corner told him to change tactics. He could've gone to his jab and teep, backed him up, and forced a fight in the clinch. I was worried Tony was gonna die.

[@osakafoojin]

22:07 lmao “Rozen-stroke”

[@amirtaj4323]

Jack, you are so right about wrestling against Justin. Gaethje himself even said that his wrestling cardio is trash, I don't understand why you would want that to know but whatever.

[@cryz3856]

Imagine Poirier vs Kattar if they were in the same weight class or at catch weight or something.. that would be a boxing master class

[@thepolticalone961]

I see why you don't rate Waterston

[@stoicsavage509]

Who is Waterston???

[@thepolticalone961]

@@stoicsavage509 the Karate lady. Idk how to spell her name

[@thepolticalone961]

@Khaled Rapp oh mate I watched and I was like wow this is terrible

[@thecasual5430]

UFC just shouted out the Slacky boys tweet before the fights!

[@painandpyro]

When you reactively get mad at Slack for disrespecting your girl, Karate Hottie, only to realize that you have to admit he's not wrong...

[@retrowrath9374]

Every time I see Waterson, her fists and feet keep hitting nothing but air.

[@matthewcameron5566]

In early for a spot of slack and tickle

[@hauntyoo]

The question is; is Ngannou the UFC's prime Bob Sapp?

[@buttonpusher3786]

No, Francis has won a fight and doesn't regularly tap to strikes. Sapp has 12 more knockouts though, if you include knockout losses.

[@hauntyoo]

@@buttonpusher3786 I'm talking about Sapp who won Hoost twice. But yeah, just checked his record, and it wasn't that impressive I remembered.

[@j0llyl257]

Trevor Whitman is to thank for Justin’s performance Justin follows his instructions to an absolute tea and trustttt me thats not easy

[@arielcastillo3513]

Gaethje Fergusoned Ferguson

[@kickstartgaming69]

Praise 2 Jesus. Slack attack inbound

[@detectivejonesw]

Eyyy jack your tweet just came up on the screen

[@Merrick]

what about almost all the corner men not wearing masks in the locker room, taking off masks for group selfies, referees, commentators, Dana? If Joe Rogan had a false negative he could have infected half the card himself love this podcast, still my favourite years all these years later

[@IRidez]

Ultimately I think tony just couldn’t get his groove on, he was able to get it going and he was cautious the whole time. Wish he didn’t take this fight 😂 I STILL NEED KHABIB V TONY TO HAPPEN SOMETIME THIS YEAR

[@brettyh1]

lmao @ the vittori comments

[@gonufc]

But fuck me was that leg sweep beautiful....

[@JustLookinkAround]

FINALLY!

[@tuco1099]

Yes it is a real sport

[@leanmchungry4735]

Now that Ferguson has died on his own sword, will Conor nail Gaethje with counter strikes?

[@paulgallagher5092]

Dunno why but I think Gaethje wants the belt and legacy over a big money fight

[@ribses]

Sooooooo sad you didn’t mention Bryce

[@reecepattison5351]

Yay

[@NobleVagabond2552]

Tony looking black in this picture

[@GStampedeIII]

1 drop rule, black

[@insanezombieman753]

Why didn't you make a filthy casuals guide for gaethje? Filthy casuals jinx strikes again

[@richard-jy4lr]

gathje ferguson dynamic was basically porier hollaway on ubereem horse meat

[@rawirineptune5586]

Werdum looked fucking awful physically. Coming off the PEDs didn’t do him any good

[@primeorkbork3315]

Tony looked like he was thinking the whole fight. He has some retarded footwork too walking into some of those shots. Still a huge fan of both though.

[@stickygreennigel4338]

I know you're mumbo jumbo

[@scottknowsnothing2153]

What are your thoughts on Gaethje doing zero ground work? Makes no sense for modern MMA if he goes against good wrestlers with submissions

[@ruveng.9058]

Well, he better change that now

[@anujjyothykumar4667]

@@ruveng.9058 or he'll get smeshed

[@jasonblackfield7741]

First comment. You made my day slacky.

[@raptor15sc]

Tony was not a Division 1 wrestler, casual. Justin was a Division 1 All-American pick.

[@alexsnow5092]

Didn’t Khabib fight 3 times last year? Nice try jack

[@spa2damax]

Lol once last year and twice the year before.

[@alexsnow5092]

Rieldans how many times does any highest level fighter fights at any given year? No more than twice, it’s too demanding on your body and mind regardless of if you have to take a break for Ramadan

[@gilbertoflores7397]

First.