Old Norse "Class" 11: Saying "The"

[@nikburisson9-pissedoffpeasant-]

Dr. Crawford, some of us can only say "thank you very much, I appreciate your efforts", in modern American English. So, please continue to be yourself.

[@dracofeb8859]

At 2:26, where I live, we use "yonder". Like "The cows over yonder."

[@lakrids-pibe]

"Yondah lies da castle of my foddah" - The famous movie “quote” that Tony Curtis didn't say…

[@MisterBones223]

You are the absolute best teacher and entertainer on here! You are probably the closest thing to a role model I have as well :D

[@tairneanaich]

I kind of enjoy the plural endings being the opposite of what you expect in Gender (similar to our other "real" adjectives from earlier lessons), it's like they're balancing the word out with a bit of both. Sounds less silly than the alternative to my ear, too, tbh (thank you btw for these lessons they're fantastic)

[@RavensEyeOffroad]

First! Id like for you to just do a book version on all this. :D

[@isai1331]

Would be great!

[@lughlongarm76]

He’s actually said his publisher (Hackett, who’s published his translations) is interested in a textbook! But he’s emphasized that it’s probably still years away at this point.

[@eve3614]

one of my favorite words in modern icelandic is banani (banana) because of how silly it looks and sounds with the articles bananinn bananann banananum bananans bananarnir bananana bönununum / banönunum banananna

[@henkeflygern7404]

What about pineapple? Is that ananas as in norwegian etc?

[@ingmarbm]

I'm excited for this video and it just started

[@NightWillowCrafts]

Love this series!

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[@skyr4]

On the topic of it not being "fully part of the word yet" and by that not triggering umlaut, in central scandinavia where jamvektslagen operated, the definite article did not cause jamning, however the case suffixes did! I think probably because of different tonality, the old suffixes having accent 2 and triggering harmony but the new definite article having accent 1 and not causing any change, even weakening to the point where weak masculines & feminines dont even have a definite article in accusative, only dative

[@kjartanruminy6297]

I am Icelandic so I found it a bit weird (not that it really matters) that you placed the cases as nom. acc. gen. dat. because we learn it in school as nom. acc. dat. gen. It also occurred to me that although the the sounds have changed from old Norse to modern Icelandic, the system and structure of the language have stayed the same.

[@idsebayutromp5758]

In the study of most languages nom. gen. dat. acc. (ngda) is most common, because that's the way it's done in the study of Latin (the most commonly studied language, well in the middle ages untille the early modern times atleast). nom. acc. gen. dat. (nagd) is sometimes used because it's the most logical. The nom. is most commonly used case in a language, followed by acc., then gen. and so forth. Differentiating between ngda and nagd is a choice between what is the standard or what is most logical, respectively. It's funny that you're used to nadg, I've never seen that before! Perhaps is stems from the dative being more often used than the genitive in certain languages, but I don't know.

[@Renna_Red]

Very enjoyable.

[@runestone8619]

viking drinking game: take a shot of mead every time he says "the"

[@twistysunshine]

Now that's a lot of "the"s....

[@DogsRGr8]

Volume needs a little boosting.

[@AimeeVignes]

Hello Dr. Crawford! Is this sentence right? “allr gætirar eru bastarđrar” Thanks!

[@Istoria-Movy]

except Bastard is a French word

[@Hvitserk67]

Thank God that the grammar is not as complicated in today's Scandinavian languages. Today we say in Norwegian (bokmål)/Danish quite simply: ild, ilden og ildene (fire, the fire and the fires). Completely independent of gender and cases as in English. The English word "fire" has a cognate word in today's Norwegian, namely to put "fyr" (fire) to something and that means about the same thing as "ild" (eldr in old norse).

[@ole7146]

Hvitserk, I’m from east Jutland and would like Norwegians say ild, ilden, hus, huset and so on. The south Jutish don’t, they would say æ hus, æ mand and so on.

[@Hvitserk67]

​@@ole7146 I am familiar with this somewhat special form (relative to the rest of Denmark and Norway) that they use in southern Jutland and western Jutland. But even if they say "æ hus" ("a house" as in English), they probably inflect the word grammatically like the rest of us: hus, huset and husene. They do not do as in English and use definite article "the" (or "æ") in front of the words instead of only an ending (eg "husene" vs. "the houses"). Or do they also say "æ hus" for "huset" (the house) too?

[@hrafnkellhardarson9206]

This exactly same grammar is still present in modern Icelandic and is a piece of cake if you grow up with it. The examples Mr. Crawford are using are basicly modern Icelandic.

[@Hvitserk67]

@@hrafnkellhardarson9206 Of course, but with the strong English influence everywhere, it does not hurt that the starting point is as simple and straightforward :)

[@ole7146]

@@Hvitserk67 “æ mann kom ti æ hus” en mand/manden kom til huset (a man came to the house). And just as in some Norwegian dialects “Æ” also represent “I” - Æ tøs di naue træls/ jeg syntes det er noget irriterende.