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[@chugcannady4254]

Jaguars aren't leaving. Jacksonville is booming. Jacksonville is growing faster than anywhere else in the country. This stadium would only be the beginning of Jacksonville becoming a major city.

[@kevinpeck787]

Jacksonville is not growing faster than anywhere but that sounds like something that someone from Jacksonville would say 😂

[@chugcannady4254]

@@kevinpeck787 because your uniformed

[@jfa222]

@@kevinpeck787 I’m not sure if growing faster is the correct way to describe it but, yes, Jacksonville is amongst the top 5 cities for net migration amongst US citizens and the entire city is growing at a pace unlike anything we’ve seen in 20 years. Lots of active construction projects downtown right now, including the Jags new $120+ million practice facility.

[@kevinpeck787]

@@jfa222 you’re right about that but trust me in 5 years it’s gonna be a jumbled mess, cost of living is gonna be 10 times more to live in an average area and there’s a lot more bad areas in Jacksonville they should be worried rather than building on top of everything. And I agree with you a lot. It’s a beautiful place to visit, Just Jacksonville is never going to even be at a place that good people want to reside full time.

[@jfa222]

@@kevinpeck787 Cost of living is actually relatively low compared to most major cities. Jacksonville is massive (close to 900 square miles) and has tons of room for growth. Downtown isn’t even close to being full, it’s really just now growing as of 1-2 years ago. For being a city known (in the league) as not being much, it’s finally gaining momentum to become what most people living in Duval County know it can become.

[@DUVALTV]

Jaguars Staying In Jacksonville Forever ♾️. We will Never let them Leave. Make all the comments and videos you want. Jags will be In Duval Forever ♾️. In Khan we trust. #DTWD #DUUUVAL

[@kevinlunpkins2691]

BIG FACTS!!! IT WAS ALWAYS AND FOREVER WILL BE THE JAGS💯

[@danny51577]

I'll bet St Louis said the same thing

[@DUVALTV]

@@danny51577 no actually they didn’t and that’s why they moved.

[@danny51577]

@@DUVALTV yeah they did. And your buddy Shaka Khan was one of the people who moved them out with zero notice, right under the fans noses. Who knows what he wants to do in FL, but dont be surprised if he bolts outta there too

[@SCBlueDevil]

@@danny51577 nothing he’s done indicates he’s moving literally nothing

[@theDrWusiji]

Jags are staying and this stadium is going to be used for tons of championship games/events etc. Its more for the city than the team imo

[@davebo9615]

Wow. They hosted 1 Superbowl in 20+ years, cause their market is too small to accommodate the hotels required for a Superbowl. Why spend 2 billion for the chance to host 1 more Super bowl?

[@PaulHenricksen]

​@@davebo9615 there's more potential events they can host in that stadium then just a super bowl

[@kevinlunpkins2691]

​@@PaulHenricksen Florida Georgia, sb, performance music etc.

[@terrancehall9762]

It is a corporate giveaway

[@casanovafrankenstein8538]

Stop saying the Jags are moving to London you noobs

[@youngbr1120]

This narrative is so tired, Shad is asking for 50%.

[@keithpugh7538]

The city owns the stadium,

[@terrancehall9762]

​@@keithpugh7538 jags getting a billion dollar handout

[@kevinlunpkins2691]

This our city if they ask I'm sending $ go JAGS

[@nicksmart7094]

It's not a handout when 50 percent residents use the entertainment.

[@terrancehall9762]

@@nicksmart7094 actually it is when they get tax breaks

[@luisleal2940]

It’s a combination of sofi stadium and Qatar World Cup stadiums , and it looks stunning . If they got it done Jacksonville would have a world class stadium .

[@Alex-sf9bo]

Looks terrible a steel toilet bowl

[@TruthLC]

This clown will never stop talking about jags relocating

[@marcwilliams9539]

it helps him forget about his troubles going on at home😂😂

[@ufdan15]

Its gonna get approved and its gonna get built. Jags are staying in Jax until Florio is dead. And he'll still talk about how they should be in London instead. Up yours, Florio.

[@wypipojefe3729]

I love mike but he has a hard on for jags in London talk

[@ufdan15]

​@Oscar Madrid a permanent London team means more viewers on SkySports for him. Hes a greedy prick that masquerades as a moralist compared to the owners

[@casanovafrankenstein8538]

Shut up

[@adrianbuck8772]

Offcourse its gonna get built. Because the politic is gonna give them an huge amount of money to do so.

[@christopherliston2371]

@@wypipojefe3729 never got picked in kickball, got faced planted in dodgeball and eats a paleo diet, has multiple cats. DUUUVAL!!!

[@Bill.K.]

Owners that pay 100% of the cost, like Kronke in LA, own the stadium. Shad Khan does not own the stadium in Jacksonville, the city does. He is still paying 50% of developments - Daily’s Place, the new Miller Electric Training Center and the stadium with associated development around it.

[@adrianbuck8772]

LA is the one of the view markets in the US which cant be pressured into paying for an stadium. But its an exeption. Dallas Cowboys AT&T Stadium was financed to 32.5% by the public (325 million),both the build in 1972 and renevation in 2011 of Arrowhead stadium was 100% public founded...

[@terrancehall9762]

Krone got free land and tacmx breaks

[@haymaker710]

@@terrancehall9762 Stan Kroenke paid $100 million for the land.

[@terrancehall9762]

@@haymaker710 a sweeheart deal. the land was worth alot more

[@haymaker710]

@@terrancehall9762 Don't forget the $800 million he had to pay St. Louis for leaving.

[@Edward_Strong1982]

This is definitely not political 🤦🏾‍♂️ they’ve been on the talks about the renovation for years and having preliminary talks with the city. This didn’t suddenly appear to change a narrative. There is no pressure he needs to put on the city to get it done. They are actually very anxious to start negotiating and the new mayor says she is getting started as soon as she’s in office. At the most, they may have gripes about the cost of the design. Tbh if it ends up as any version of this at a lower costs we will not complain. I just can’t for it to be done so guys like this can finally stfu

[@nooddles12]

the media have always disrespected the city and the team. haters gonna hate.

[@jeromehoward1249]

The Jaguars are NOT moving to London. Let's get it straight!

[@jfa222]

Florio’s take on this is absurd and I’ll explain why for those who aren’t living in Jacksonville or who don’t know what’s been going on the last 12 years since Shad bought the team. Shad’s been trying for years to develop downtown Jacksonville for years, to make it an attractive place to live and turn the surrounding area at the stadium into an entertainment district. Here’s what he’s done thus far: Completed 1. Locker Room Upgrades - $3MM 2. Jumbotron Upgrades - $20MM 3. Amphitheater/Club Seats - $45MM 4. Practice & Training facility - $60MM Contracted/Under Construction 1. Four Seasons Hotel - $257MM Proposed 1. Entertainment district - $475-568MM 2. Stadium renovation - $400-466MM Total invested: $1,260MM - $1,419MM Anyone thinking he is floating some propaganda to fool the city of Jacksonville into believing he wants the team to be here while he actually wants to move the team is absurd and shows how ignorant Florio is about this city, this team, this owner, and these fans. Coming from a resident of #duuuvall

[@mikepeinhardt7114]

I enjoy Florio's content, but he always comes across as a hater when he talks about Jacksonville

[@tonydangelo778]

He doesn’t think Jacksonville should have a team.

[@nicksmart7094]

He's a yankee and a democrat.

[@sliver64209]

Both these jokers are haters

[@albertpierce9891]

He also has zero info on what is actually going on. Florio is reporting Jags are only willing to pay 30% when it's been reported by Jags media for awhile that Jags are willing to pay 50%. They have already had conversations about the cost with the city. Like a I saw someone say, Florio must have money on the Jags moving to London.

[@jozy3341]

Jags STH here. Simms is an ass. But Florio is probably on to something. I don't trust billionaires. They've all gotten there by screwing someone over

[@georgepeyton772]

Jaguars NFL team is only 1 part of the stadium in Jacksonville. Florida Georgia game is but only one and it's huge. The people in Jacksonville want to put down on that stadium. We know what tourism dollars look like. We pretty good at spending tourism dollars.

[@rmarkette]

The previous project Shad proposed got shot down in city council by one vote, which, rumor has it, was simply to stick it to the Mayor. Jacksonville just elected a new Mayor so it is likely this will have a different result.

[@nicksmart7094]

If you did your homework it was because of lefty lebaneze Tommy hazzouris one vote, because he knew he would be dead 3 months after the vote and he wanted to stick it to everybody. The son of a bitch is dead now and out of the way.

[@robertatzert6223]

You guys do know they broke ground on 4 seasons hotel literally across the street. Thanks Khan

[@Marleebrando]

Ok if they don’t build it ,Jags move to London. But If they do, how bout Florio moves to London, deal? Duuuuuuuval

[@joesmith1946]

Florio needs to give up this Jags-To-London BS. The new stadium will be built. The Jags will stay in Jacksonville.

[@bobbykiriakidis9753]

NFL is becoming too big for Jax. Honestly they would boom in Austin, London, Toronto. Toronto has the 3rd largest market in North America. 8 million people

[@DUVALTV]

@@bobbykiriakidis9753 🧢

[@DUVALTV]

Facts

[@TruthLC]

@@bobbykiriakidis9753 Too big based on what? Have you seen the city supporting the Jags last season, they are only getting better and the city is fully behind them

[@bobbykiriakidis9753]

@@TruthLC they are not loyal fan base come on. When they were winning 2-3 games a season I saw empty seats. There are other markets that are ready to pounce on Jags trust me it’s already in the works

[@904TallerTim]

I've been to both stadiums FedEx field is significantly a worse stadium than Jacksonville's stadium. FedEx literally had fans almost fall on a opposing QB and it just needs to be imploded. Jax stadium needs to be upgraded but isn't decrepit yet

[@Edward_Strong1982]

They are not tearing it down 🤦🏾‍♂️ their stripping it down to the concrete .

[@paihomage6624]

I dont undrstand how you can have a team in London the travel would be insane so im confused as how this would work, that said they're not leaving the US I doubt it, having a few games a year overseas is good enough, I think the media wants a team in London more than the fans

[@christopherliston2371]

Florio always looks as if a Mortuary did his makeup...DUUUVAL!!!

[@masashi_tashiro]

Every time Florio talks about the Jaguars/London links, it feels more and more like attempted wish fulfillment than commentary with tangible weight behind it. I get what he's saying about places like STL and Oakland, but I've also noticed what he *hasn't* said every time he's talked about this, which is: "Ultimately, I do hope that Jacksonville finds a way to keep its team" - because he's fundamentally offended by the fact that Jacksonville has an NFL team, is maybe even furious to the point of murderous rage about that reality, and would even go as far as to commit capital crimes if it meant that corner of America would be deprived of its one-and-only pro sports team.

[@r1explode1]

Shad Khan is IN PROGRESS of BUILDING a 4 SEASONS hotel, a Jaguars Headquarters business park and a BRAND NEW Jaguars practice facility (which will be COMPLETE July 1st). He’s also purchased ALL the land around the existing stadium. In addition, he’s launched meaningful initiatives and investments into Jacksonville proper and low income communities around the stadium. He’s even invested money into redirecting BRIDGE traffic. He’s invested MILLIONS into the Jacksonville riverfront area called “The Shipyards,” which was basically untouchable because of toxic ash and chemicals buried there by shipbuilders since WWII. Maybe I’m naive… just maybe… But, that doesn’t sound like someone who’s asking too much from the community to invest in it’s own future, too. @MikeFlorio @ChrisSimms

[@RaftNastyNYG]

Yeah Florio doesn't know anything about the city and how much Khan has invented is own time and money into it. If he really wanted to move the team he would not be putting forth all this effort to make the city and team even more enticing for both free agents as well as other major events to be brought here,.

[@terrancehall9762]

He getting tax breaks for all of it. Do some research

[@SCBlueDevil]

@@terrancehall9762 doesn’t matter he’s still pouring a ton of his own money into the area

[@r1explode1]

@@terrancehall9762 I did. It’s why I wrote what I wrote. MOST people with MONEY don’t throw it into some black hole that they have no interest in getting a positive return on. Khan has MULTIPLE businesses and investments. But, the man SHOWS UP for Jacksonville at EVERY TURN!

[@moodohwah4389]

having a team in london makes no sense especially for players being far from family

[@AMPDOG2]

people been talking about the Jags moving since like 96. I'll believe it when it happens DTWD (duval until we die).

[@terrancegreen2836]

I bit of advice Florio, stop with the moving to London thing. The Jags aren’t going anywhere…

[@woody32095]

Dude, check the Jags attendance for the last few years. Even when we sucked we sold out

[@TonyRedd]

he has two big ass boats!!! stop hating!! Duuuvvaaallll

[@auggieoutdoors3325]

Jacksonville's core infrastructure is very aged. More than half of the public school buildings are in desperate need of millions $ in repairs and upgrades. And Shad received plenty of heat for docking the Kizmet (his giant yacht) mere blocks from poverty stricken neighborhoods. It will not be the easiest sell to the public, trust me. Additionally, the wealth is concentrated in surrounding suburban counties. Should they help pay for it?

[@nicksmart7094]

You want a road because it's aged? Who cares about how old a road is? A school? You haven't graduated yet?

[@jpjh8844]

Jags are smart, they are doing the exact opposite of what Josh Harris is doing in Philly where there are massive protests today against his proposal to build a new stadium for the 76ers in Center City Philadelphia

[@manesmarcellon6059]

After we win championships, theyll be talking about wanting to commentate games at Jacksonville lol

[@tendanotlinda7831]

Jags stayin in jax stay MADDDDD🤣🤣👎🏾👎🏾 go jagssss

[@craigpridemore7566]

Lions got 36% of Ford Field publicly funded BUT Ford Field cost 'only' $430 million. If Jacksonville's costs $1.3 BILLION, 36% is more than Ford Field COST. Also, the public funding of the 2002 renovation of Soldier Field is a cautionary tale. Because of interest, 20 years later, they OWE $640 mil on a $386 mil loan. Watch your funds Jax...

[@Jaxboy86]

I think they are looking at Minneapolis and how they paid it off early.

[@7strandsofrope]

Florio, if you like the Jags just say so fam. You always talking bout them. It's the off season, shouldn't you be taking off? 😂

[@stonergriffin4082]

All my fellow jags fan😂😂😂😂let Florio be

[@b.hajduk2054]

Well, I'll take this old stadium in Jacksonville more than the one in Cincinnati any day.

[@yellow_tonez]

How can you say we have the worst stadium in the league but have only been there twice in the last 7-8 years? It’s easy to shit on a city if you’ve never visited but twice. This town is filled with people who are passionate about this franchise. Sure, the team has stunk it up for a majority of its existence but our city shows up every year to support. Winning will answer all of this and shut both of you up. And that winning is on the horizon.

[@cheetohead6942]

Fo sime research before spewing lies, they said they want 50 percent of the cost, and the cuty owns the stadium, not Khan, so he isn't obligated to put money into something he doesn't own

[@R17759]

Fo sime indeed

[@ducduong87vlogs]

I've been waiting for so long

[@keithpugh7538]

Because they play one game in London they are moving? Wonder why the Raiders, Chargers and Rams moved . Btw 🤡 the second game is an away game not a home game 🤦

[@frenchbros6930]

As a lifelong jags fan I don’t think they move bc of the development that’s already been put in by Khan around stadium. However, if they ever do become the London Jaguars I think that’s the day I stop watching the NFL.

[@eviltainted]

Don't worry Europe had there own NFL leauge and it died. Soccer is the sport there. They can make money on a few games a year but moving teams there would cost way too much.

[@athens_1psvr31]

I went to the Giants at Jags game last year and putting the money into the surrounding area would be better. Parking and traffic was unorganized and a mess. One block from the stadium there’s people sleeping under an overpass.

[@franciscyr2471]

Will the NFL use the 2 years to build it as a trial run of operating a team for those seasons in Europe? Jags temp based in UK.

[@tonydangelo778]

No. The Jags are not moving to London. Get over it.

[@jaystus]

No going to another Florida city

[@r1explode1]

No. The Jaguars will REMAIN the JACKSONVILLE JAGUARS. They MAY play in Orlando for two years which will add to their fan base

[@franciscyr2471]

I’m just saying it makes sense to work out any logistics issues for when the NFL does put a team or four in Europe on a permanent basis.

[@tonydangelo778]

@@franciscyr2471 there is no situation where it makes sense to have European teams in the NFL. Unless you think there should be American teams in Premier League or Liga.

[@allensaunders449]

It would be hard to be the only team in Europe

[@abalogan]

I LOVE FLORIO, 100% truth fire!

[@SCBlueDevil]

Hell no

[@shanewindhaus8385]

You were saying?

[@indiecomics]

Oakland and St. Louis are cities in decline. Florida ergo Jacksonville constantly increase in population

[@sidsid6380]

They will get the funds and the city will ask for the london game to be stopped.

[@jrpaq68]

Shad Khan does not own the stadium, the city does. Would the city donate the current stadium to Mr. Khan if he’d build a shiny new one? I doubt it. The city will make plenty of revenue from other events held there, plus Mr. Khan had already promised to pay half the total cost of everything they are proposing. As far as Mr. Khan’s yacht goes, Florio can suck it. Khan came here with $500 in his pocket and earned all the money he has. If he want to buy a big ass boat and hire Florio as his cabin boy he has every right to do so.

[@atrholiday2889]

Even if the Jaguars go through with the renovations…. Florio- “This is just more proof that they should move to London!”

[@kandiheart6072]

They will be hosting some Superbowls if they build that stadium!

[@stephengering1986]

Duval 4 life🤘🤘

[@acevedolc]

No news week therefore we have to create one. One condition to move to London is finding talented players willing to move to a foreign country. It is not going to happen until you can fly 2 hours from London to New York.

[@shanewindhaus8385]

So gratifying to come back one year later and see this old tired argument thrown right back in the national media's face Jacksonville is not a "destination" city? The U.S. Census Bureau comoletely destroys that argument. Go JACKSONVILLE Jaguars!!

[@jaystus]

The bills lost a home game to London.

[@airfleet7916]

Get your wallets out Jacksonville taxpayers and expect to be blackmailed. Pay up or lose your team. It's that simple. This has been the norm for decades, with rare exceptions.

[@r1explode1]

HOW is it BLACKMAIL? Shad Khan DOESNT own the STADIUM. He DOESNT own the LAND that the stadium sits on. HOW is it unreasonable to ask the the community pay HALF for something that Shad Khan will NEVER OWN? This man has already (and continues to) invested BILLIONS into this community

[@SCBlueDevil]

Blah blah blah

[@jaydendavis7648]

It doesn’t make since to leave bc they just built the miller electric center for the jags

[@duncandumond9043]

The Jags have a better chance of moving to St Louis than London. The future economic conditions will make Shahid Khan think twice about moving the franchise to London.

[@danielgoulet8055]

Over a 25 year period with nearly 200 home games spending 1 billion dollars comes to 5 million dollars a game. Are we really wanting to pay that?

[@jimmymcfly9822]

Stop it with the London BS. The Players Union would never go for it.

[@Sonofawildanimal4241]

Florio is right about IF they do move to London they’re just going to do it. They are not going to warn anyone. And I think it’s a nice stadium!

[@Jawnderlust]

Unless the Government that’s paying is going to own the property, public money should never be stolen from taxpayers to give billionaires even more valuable assets. Billionaires would finance the stadiums themselves if they didn’t think they could maneuver to steal more money.

[@youngbr1120]

Tell that to the fans of the cities of St. Louis, Oakland etc… but Shad is footing 50% of the bill

[@jackmichels3459]

Also the city owns the stadium, so shad doesn’t need to even foot the bill but he’s going 50/50

[@Bill.K.]

The City of Jacksonville does own the stadium today, and the ground it sits on. That is also true for Daily’s place (adjacent to the stadium) and the new Miller Electric Training Center. The Jaguars paid 50% of those costs despite not owning it. The Jaguars have said they will pay 50% this too.

[@advancedguard8868]

Jacksonville city owns the stadium.

[@Charles-904]

Shad trying to build this city and some dumb people in the city don't want to progress

[@mattjones1378]

Duuuuuuuvaaaaaaal

[@Mgilmo97]

Yall gotta realize the jags to london wont happen because the other 31 owners would throw a fit do you realize how much of a logistical nightmare that is for everyone involved. The only way any team ends up in london is if there are 3 others in the region so there is a euro division

[@Mistaletstalkaboutit]

When they play in Jacksonville they’re playing for a city. When they play in London ITS A WHILE FREAKING COUNTRY COMMING OUT. Every team would make more money in London

[@xc.b3075]

FLORIO 2024 🇺🇲

[@kamellegomez3741]

Lazy take

[@incendiumaquila7605]

I can’t be the only one that hates the Sofi design

[@vonknows7228]

The Jags are finally moving in the right direction on the field since they first entered the league, but they won’t do good if they were full time in London.

[@wildcat77]

You don’t know the history of the team. We went to the NFC Championship twice within the first five years or so.

[@MrTimothy87]

I wonder what they have to say about the Jags moving to London ,LA or anywhere else..This conversation is now dead and completely dead...😂😂..The Jags and the City have an agreement to build our stadium right here in Jacksonville and a NO RELOCATION AGREEMENT in the total deal..For so long we've heard this stupid argument about our team leaving..We just kept moving and doing our thing..These people don't come to Jacksonville, don't know anything about Jacksonville or the fans and always talk put the side of their neck amd this is only the beginning..😂😂..Feel so good to have the owner Shad Khan and we love our team and guess what..THEY ARENT GOING ANYWHERE..JACKSONVILLE JAGUARS..Love the way that sounds so those that didn't to bad..OUR TEAM , OUR CITY OUR JAGUARS!!!❤❤❤..DUUUVALL, GO JAGS!!!..

[@MrBezl]

If I was a billionaire owner I would want to pay for it myself. And make 100% of the profits. Do whatever I want. Move the team if I want. Total control. I get that not every owner can afford to do that, but if I could I would

[@rungy8214]

ALL GRASS FIELD please!!

[@stephengering1986]

if you build it they will come DTWD DUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUVAL

[@jacobshorba5753]

"IT DOESN'T CHRIS! IT DOESN'T!" Dude is having an actual meltdown because a team he has no reason to hate isn't going to leave like he wants so badly. L.

[@canvasmoore6470]

It’s 50-50

[@nathanrice5636]

God I hope they don’t move

[@PescadoDelDiablo]

People with no money love to tell other people how to spend theirs.

[@bc7013]

People with millions like to pretend they have no money when talking about billionaires to people who actually have no money.

[@jeffmiller1422]

Idk id say Washington, Buffalo, Carolina , Tampa Bay, Nashville and Cincinnati and/or Cleveland have worse stadiums atm

[@McClintonforThree]

A college stadium? Dude has obviously never been. And they’re stupid if they think London will EVER get a team.

[@qramsey1893]

The city owns the stadium and land, for him to build his own would require a move

[@jaystus]

The city wants to own some to get more revenue.

[@r1explode1]

The City of Jacksonville owns 100% of the stadium AND the LAND it sits on.

[@templehillsfunk]

Having an NFL team is a source of civic pride. Ask those fans who've lost teams like St. Louis.

[@junko988]

Response from Saint Louis, Missouri: not when they are terrible for eight years

[@bollweevil8112]

How many billions can we make seats around a grass field cost? The math doesn’t favor the taxpayers. Fascism USA 🇺🇸

[@nathanswarthout6721]

I really love these two. I really do. I also know that people with money can be pricks but so can people without money. These two are the biggest haters of anybody that's got any kind of money. It just gets old after a while with the whole owners being billionaires and jealous that they have boats and they don't. Give it a rest already.

[@1percent___]

Why would any team have there home base over seas. Nobody would want to play for a team in london. Just dumb

[@michaelmayo-vb5fl]

Lol if im a city mayor im not giving a 2 billion dollars deal to another billionaire. Unless my city is getting royalties from the team. Lol so u get 2 billion & the homeless stay on the streets 😂

[@manesmarcellon6059]

Damn theyre just shitting on our jags stadium lol😅

[@jayk.4692]

It'd most likely be Tottenham not Wembley.

[@ethankr9596]

Screw London. Bring big sports to DUUUVALL

[@Soflorida]

This a situation where you was wrong about something. And now you just trying to make your self sound right.

[@zackkiener2496]

he said it’s 50-50

[@TheWackyWiggles]

Why would the Jaguars stay in Jacksonville? The fans have no idea what city they are even in. Londoners would at least know their own city lol.

[@chevy4x466]

I have a feeling the nfl will putt teams in Saudi Arabia and Qatar

[@JeremyKasperson]

San Antonio Jaguars?

[@TheKustms]

I’ve been to many Jacksonville games. The stadium is absolute dogshit, the only nice areas to sit are the suites and those are not even up to par with other stadiums

[@flu922]

I been to tampa, carolina, philly and NY. their stadium aint that much better

[@SCBlueDevil]

It’s almost like that’s why the stadium is getting renovated if you think about it

[@TheKustms]

@@SCBlueDevil thanks for the help 🙏🏻

[@shanewindhaus8385]

Hence the $1.4 billion renovation.

[@autumraider6796]

How can Chris handle this florio guy? He doesn’t shut up!

[@greggkillman4763]

Sims is a chump. The stadium is great as is

[@jeffc1347]

The Jags will probably get what they want because, like the Bills and Packers, the people in the area will want it because without their NFL team they are basically off the map. But if they were to move anywhere Orlando would be more likely than London. Jax has a metro area population of 1.3 mil, Orlando has a metro area population of 2.5 mil. Orlando has everything Jax doesn't: world class attractions, tons of hotels and restaurants, slightly higher GDP per capita, 70 MILLION tourists compared to Jax's 70 thousand, world class airport. Also Orlando is a huge tourist spot for people from the UK, they have direct flights from both Heathrow and Gatwick. If Shad Kahn wanted to he easily could be building this stadium on the bones of Camping World Stadium instead of TIAA Bank Field and the team would be more successful.

[@jeffc1347]

On a semi related note I think Orlando doesn't have more pro-teams because they view Tampa and Orlando as the same market. But that's not really the case, even though the two cities are near each other geographically they are more like sibling rivals than counterparts. For example I know people here in Orlando (including myself) that are Jags fans simply because they are a Florida team that is not Tampa (or Miami). There are practically no Rays/Bucs/Lightning fans in Orlando and there are practically no Magic fans in Tampa. Assuming that Orlando are going to be fans of Tampa teams is like assuming Milwaukee are going to be Chicago Blackhawks fans...not gonna happen.

[@flu922]

Jax metro is 1.6 mil

[@jeff6385]

Orlando is a landlocked armpit too close to Tampa. Jax has beaches and some of the best golfing.

[@masashi_tashiro]

Orlando also has... An economy that can barely support one "major league" franchise (one of the lowest per median incomes in America forever) A tiny corporate presence (one Fortune 500 company to Jacksonville's three) A wholly unacceptable stadium by NFL standards (the Pro Bowl moved out after 3-4 years... really stop and think about that one) Possibly the most fragmented NFL fanbase of any city in America (mainly split among the FL teams, but also with a heavy Northeast/Midwest presence) And even though I agree with the second point you made, Tampa Bay (and prob Miami as well) would still raise hell about any team trying to bite deeper into its territory The NFL would likely tolerate Orlando as a stop-gap while the Jags get their stadium renovated -- assuming they reach a consensus on that -- which would also allow them to develop a bigger fanbase outside of Jacksonville. Although I've seen the Daytona speedway being floated as a potential temporary venue for the Jags as well, which I think would be insane on a number of levels, both literally and figuratively

[@jeffc1347]

@@masashi_tashiro First of all I agree with you there is no chance of the Jags moving to Orlando or London, they are going to stay in Jax. And being close to Tampa is a major factor for them expanding in Jax instead of Orlando, but don't knock on Orlando's market compared to Jax. The Magic played their first season in 1989 when the metro area population was 900,000. The population of Jax in 1989 was 800,000. The population of Orlando metro area is now 2.5 million, in the past decade the Orlando area has been growing at 3x the rate of the Jacksonville area. It seems like the pot calling the kettle black to say Jax is a better market because Orlando has barely only supported one major league franchise. Nobody ever thinks the Magic are going to move, people have been saying the Jags are going to move for over 20 years. The Magic are 24th out of 30 in NBA net worth rankings, Jacksonville has been dead last in the NFL since they were founded. Like I said before the GDP per capita is about the same / actually slightly higher in Orlando so that comment you made about Orlando being poor, well so is Jax. It's also pot calling the kettle black that they don't have an acceptable NFL stadium, neither does Jacksonville thats why they are spending $1.5 bil to re-do the whole thing lol. Orlando would have to do the same thing to the Citrus Bowl. You are also correct Orlando doesn't technically have a lot of companies headquartered here, but Disney and Comcast, two of the most powerful companies in the world, have huge presence and sway and would definitely be corporate sponsors along with Darden and Orlando Health. Have you ever heard any talk of MLS, MLB, or NHL expanding into Jax? There won't be an NHL team because of the Lightning, but Orlando has an MLS team in addition to their NBA team and could easily get an MLB team tomorrow if they made a stadium pitch to the Rays (which Pat Williams is trying to do but the community probably won't support because, just like Tampa, people here don't care about baseball. They would bend over backwards for NFL however).

[@mastaaceexclusive]

So jaguars playoff run is a guarantee