JAGUAR XJR14 RACE SAUBER C 11 AT ESPIRITU DE MONTJUIC
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@F-Man9 жыл бұрын
That's some pretty impressive performance for being in neutral the whole time!! :P
@Herik778 жыл бұрын
+Ferrariman601 and without touching the throttle at all..XD
@peterplatou74327 жыл бұрын
omg scrolling down to comments and who do i see!! xD haha
@StarsWithScars4 жыл бұрын
Shit some one realised it faster than me
@aldomandovani4 жыл бұрын
I have seen it in first it just takes off second actually makes anybody out side the car age 80years
@oreocatcat3 жыл бұрын
maybe that was a error
@LeMassiveNoob7 жыл бұрын
I really do like the cocoon design of the XJR-14 (and the MXR-01), it gives the driver amazing visibility!
@dou3r8785 жыл бұрын
The C11 too!! These cars seems very confortable at visibility
@joshuak43723 жыл бұрын
When the XJR-14 showed up in IMSA in 92 it (piloted by Davy Jones) lowered the lap record at Miami by 4 seconds. The car took track records at: Mid Ohio, Lime Rock, Road Atlanta and the short course record at Watkins Glen, which still stands.
@arkeusalexander9054 Жыл бұрын
The only group C/GTP that could probably challenge or beat it in term of lap time back in the days were Toyota TS010 and Peugeot 905. Sad that the XJR14 1992 did not compete in Europe and at Le Mans.
@Vorgaloth10 ай бұрын
@@arkeusalexander9054 Maybe the Toyota Eagle MKIII.
@randompalmtopgaming75417 жыл бұрын
these cars are the best racing machines ever. they look perfect and are more than fast enough..this one was lapping just 12 seconds slower than the F1 car this year !!
@gweflj6 жыл бұрын
You can see how that lower mass of the XJR-14 just eats up the braking distance. Both absolutely stunning cars.
@aaronisgrate7 жыл бұрын
the windshield is so clear i thought this was somehow an xjr turned into a can am type ca for a second, then noticed the wiper isnt an antenna. then the glare .
@jackhampton20627 жыл бұрын
Me too!
@DM04077 жыл бұрын
Holy crap, I was thinking "I don't remember a Group C open cockpit Jag" and was about to start googling until I read this comment.
@giorx55 жыл бұрын
C11 has easily +200PS but it is heavier due to the series rules. XJ14 is great in the corners. I wish we knew the drivers. Great video!
@MarcoTav188 жыл бұрын
It's great to see these cars still being used!
@StarsWithScars4 жыл бұрын
The moment you realise that he is going 280km/h in Gear Neutral!...
@cccustard7 жыл бұрын
Best car racing video on KZbin. As a Jaguar sportscar owner I was slapping my thigh and tearful when he got past. Thanks for posting.
@DuanDao8 жыл бұрын
by far one of my most favorite group c livery thanks for this
@nicomeier8098 Жыл бұрын
Gotta love that screaming 12.000 rpm of the Jaguar.
@marcmelander18158 ай бұрын
Awesome machines. Saw C9s and C11s at Le Mans and Silverstone/Brands/Donington. The 1991 race the Sauber mechs held up 'Dino' signs at the finish as they had christened the C11 a dinosaur compared to the XJR-14/C-291/Peugeot 905 etc.
@WeirdBrick5 жыл бұрын
Amazing footage! Thankyou!
@saymyname2183 жыл бұрын
it was basically a F1 ford engine ....it never raced at Le Mans because they knew it would not last .
@austinc.1495 Жыл бұрын
it did qualify second behind the mercedes in 1991 but they didnt start it deciding to focus on the older xjr 12
@marks71977 ай бұрын
@@austinc.1495They were required to enter the 3.5 car under the rules, but they intended it to race it for just an hour to show they were quicker than the Peugeot's, sadly Andy Wallace buzzed the engine in qualifying which meant they didn't have a proper run for pole. The lap it did for 2nd was in damp conditions compared to the Mercedes.
@Dashriprock45 жыл бұрын
Love that aren’t using the idiotic chicane before the last turn. Bravo!
@Bob9308 жыл бұрын
Nice drive- Sauber messed that corner up consistently. Nice drive
@saku0207 Жыл бұрын
Sauber driver was struggling after a few rounds.. great driving by the guy in the Jaguar 👏
@gremmann4 жыл бұрын
Damn..that Sauber got some long legs, totally walked away in the straights.
@thethirdman225 Жыл бұрын
Fucken hopeless in the corners.
@sabercruiser.70533 жыл бұрын
TORQUE POWER OF THE C-11 IN ACCLERATION AND TOP SPEED
@StevieSmith775 жыл бұрын
beautiful
@MrErickNilson8 жыл бұрын
Brazilians are passionate about racing cars, but has no races in Brazil with these supercars, only runs with tourism cars. People in Brazil have come to know these supercars playing Gran Turismo and Forza. But see in real life, the real car is much more fun and exciting.
@karlfritz47 Жыл бұрын
Oh man those corner chances to pass ..I was like take him take him take him!!!
@Vermiliontea6 жыл бұрын
The NA 3.5L rule was the idiocy that killed the glorious sportscar racing that was Group C. Before that, you could use whatever engine. Fuel flow and fuel consumption was the equalizer and limiter. It was a great time, great diversity. Jaguar, Porsche, Mercedes, Mazda... Then the idiotic 3.5 rule. They couldn't get a full field, so let the old cars compete, but with ballast. Then they allowed Mazda to compete in Le Mans without the ballast, which they promptly won. Then, afterwards, they banned rotary Wankel engines to correct the unfairness. And XJR14 won all other races, because it was the only serious NA 3.5L entry. The manufacturers who had lobbied for the 3.5L rule, Peugeot, Renault, Ferrari, Matra, never came. What a fiasco. Sports car racing never became the same again. And right now it's really crappy. Even Toyota could finally win. ...Alone.
@kyongslist5 жыл бұрын
what, are you assuming people who know nothing whatsoever about racing are watching this video? way to restate extremely common and well known information..... and what sources do you have that Ferrari, Matra and Renault "lobbied" for the 3.5L rule?? Bernie Ecclestone is largely responsible for that rule being implemented, no one had to "lobby" for it. And if you had even the slightest clue, you would know that Peugeot indeed was one of the frontrunners for the 3.5L era, in fact winning Le Mans twice with the 905. So your just outright incorrect and ignorant there. Lastly, Toyota wasn't "alone." They simply were the only car competing with a hybrid powertrain, thats it. It doesn't guarantee you anything, your absolutely retarded to try and take that away, because if they lost , they would be criticized even worse. When Audi won in 2000 for their first time, they literally faced no competition either. Mercedes, BMW, Porsche, Toyota AND Nissan all left at the same time. Yet apparently for Audi it doesn't matter. Dumbasses like you aren't even real motorsports fans, you clearly dont watch any races and never have.
@redlinelmp55495 жыл бұрын
@@kyongslist Peugeot was the front runner in a dead class. The only Le Mans they had any legit competition their two cars lasted less then 100 laps combined. Toyota winning in a dead class is just deja vu.
@kierenboimufc59404 жыл бұрын
Aston Martin 6.5 N/A will change that
@shaadydog14 жыл бұрын
@@redlinelmp5549 Fuq off asshole, Audi benefited for years (diesel bs rules) from being dead too, the rules didnt allow for Gas powered cars to be competitive and the ACO knew that yet did nothing.
@rannygamer514 ай бұрын
Credits: Bernie Shit Eclestone
@fasterandnoiser6 жыл бұрын
that Sauber was racing with 1990 spec? (way faster than 1991 spec)
@excclam63612 жыл бұрын
this cam made it look like a radical sr3
@tomkrayg81027 жыл бұрын
Great in car...lots of work...lots of great closing speed shots (155mph+)...lots of carrying speed shots...lots of "all mosts"...and then!...lots of fun to watch!... was that a win by the Jag or just a match race?
@jonfrey94345 жыл бұрын
177 MPH
@kierenboimufc59404 жыл бұрын
There one car I would like to see race on a track and it’s one of the loudest ever the Lola T92/10 but can o my find a couple and no on board
@pollemar4 жыл бұрын
The track map is wrong (the option or better mutation for F1), here the wider hairpin and no chicane, the old track. F1 would do about 1:12.
@user-yb4pf8ho1l4 жыл бұрын
元々 High Torque同士なので、あとはスピード勝負って感じですね。
@iapeared62172 жыл бұрын
The Sauber has impressive boost
@gldijkstra Жыл бұрын
Epic battle, between two of the best sounding V8s ever built! The 16:53 question is: what happened...? 18:36
@austinc.1495 Жыл бұрын
jag is a v10, i think the mercedes spun on the kurbing or the jag hit him
@gldijkstra Жыл бұрын
@@austinc.1495 I was thinking the same! Jag is defo a V8 though…
@joe_seppi Жыл бұрын
Yeah the jag engine was a Cosworth V8 out of the Benetton B190 F1 car
@charlesvendee811111 ай бұрын
@@austinc.1495 when the Jag took the outside line in the corner, the merco thouch the Jag at the rear right ans spun. Iguess so.
@turu0aki2 жыл бұрын
ルマンカーはたいてい右ハンドルで右手シフトなんだけどジャギュアは左手シフトなんだな?。
@jonfrey94344 жыл бұрын
Raced Jaguar for 10 years...The Sauber was slow in the corners (ran out of rubber). Missed shift in corner one gave it the pass. Blocked at least 6 times. Oh and this was qual. by the way. This race was not 2015.
@jonfrey94343 жыл бұрын
By the way...that "neutral" is called 4th gear feather ...
@karlfritz47 Жыл бұрын
Hes putting the pressure on him big time ..if I was in the lead ..I would have folded and crashed under the intense pressure to keep the jaguar off me
@joe125ful9 жыл бұрын
Sauber is very fast and need better driver.
@prestonbrown73618 жыл бұрын
+Tony Valdez Agree. Possible he was learning the track. Looked better in subsequent laps
@AlfieBriggsRacing8 жыл бұрын
Do you know who was driving
@Michaelingolfhansen6 жыл бұрын
These cars were built to comply with completely different regulations...! The Sauber weights 150 kg more than the Jaguar! That’s why its slower in the corners!
@DukeOfCurling5 жыл бұрын
@@Michaelingolfhansen yes but that turbo when kicks in...
@briangriffith39855 жыл бұрын
@@DukeOfCurling jag was taking better lines than the merc. Thats how he forced him into a mistake running wide.
@Impulsegt17 жыл бұрын
were you guy racing for money?? damn!
@i8nm3gp8 жыл бұрын
look how that mercy pulls away
@WalkswithMax8 жыл бұрын
Most amazing part of this how little the merc pulls away.. She was running 300bhp more than than the Jaguar
@AlfieBriggsRacing8 жыл бұрын
+James Edwards Merc isn't running that much more power and it is heavier
@WalkswithMax8 жыл бұрын
+Alfie Briggs Racing 300hp is quite a lot more!
@AlfieBriggsRacing8 жыл бұрын
+James Edwards it isn't 300 more and also there is the weight difference so power to weight almost the same and also the Tractive effort is different jag is 6 speed box etc
@WalkswithMax8 жыл бұрын
+Alfie Briggs Racing is it 400hp more? I was at Silverstone in 1991 when the Jag won, obviously the "proper" group C cars were not able to run full power due to restricted fuel use. I was informed that the merc was running over 900bhp here?
@MrAureli2247 жыл бұрын
Sauber did not have good cornering speed. Glad you passed them. He was blocking you so much , cutting into the corner when ever you had a chance to pass. Isn't that a cowardly move? dangerous also. Glad you passed Him.
@siniyden5 жыл бұрын
@Kiki Sw sauber c11 is worse at corners due to its +150 kg .
@Gavs_rc_hobbies2 жыл бұрын
Could keep up with that C11 through the twisty stuff, but once it got on the main straight, that C11 just yeeted out of there.
@rasplax29 жыл бұрын
nice battle the c11 is so fast in the straight but the xjr-14 is much better in the corners
@turboslag9 жыл бұрын
rasplax2 Or the driver of the C11 isn't as good, his lines were a bit off.
@Michaelingolfhansen8 жыл бұрын
+turboslag +MarcoAntonio The cars were buit to fulfill very different regulations: The Sauber is from 1990 and had a 5.0 liter turbocharged V8 with approx. 730 bhp and tons of torque, making it fast on the straights! However the weight was 900 kg, where the Jaguar was build to the new 1991 regulations: weighing only 750 kg, but having a 3.5 L N/A engine with approx. 600-650 bhp, and much less torque! This should explain the difference in performance.
@markbinnis97778 жыл бұрын
+Michael I. Hansen thank you for the explanation; vid very interesting though, quite surprised the jag managed to muscle past actually, and hold off the merc on the next straight;
@turboslag8 жыл бұрын
Michael I. Hansen Probably more to it than that. Were both cars set up well? Relative driver skills? Tyres? Lots of variables.
@Shootrace8 жыл бұрын
+turboslag The Jag is in fact a Closed F1.That's also why it is better in the corners. Also the C11 driver isn't that good in terms of lines. The C11 is a great car,with a great aero.
@odstp471drppjr88 жыл бұрын
NA ENGINES ALWAYS AHEAD OF TURBOS !!!!!!
@C42ST3N7 жыл бұрын
I am on your side but if you look what the turbo merc is doing with the jaguar on the start finish straight, you have to give the turbo the point.
@odstp471drppjr87 жыл бұрын
WAIT A FEW YEARS TO SEE REABILITY AND WE TALK AGAIN!!!!!!! TURBOS HAVE EXPIRATION DATE!!!!!NOWDAYS MOST PARTS OF AN ENGINE ARE MADE FROM PLASTIC OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT!!!!!SUCH A PITY!!!!!!!
@92trdman7 жыл бұрын
the fact that this car win more race then C11 that year
@siniyden5 жыл бұрын
no sirprise , c11 was killed by regulations
@kierenboimufc59404 жыл бұрын
Jaguar won there world sport car championship
@sekhyhybrid67014 жыл бұрын
@@kierenboimufc5940 The C11 did that a year before with ease.
@Inazuma684 жыл бұрын
Did you ever hear a Sauber in real life? That thing is a monster, it sounds so mean, I think in acceleration there is no match 👍
@reginisavgoustinou9272 жыл бұрын
11:18 That was unfair
@FulgoreElite7 жыл бұрын
ah group C houses the best and most exquisite protoype cars in history... like the almighty 787b
@kierenboimufc59404 жыл бұрын
Fulgore Elite jaguar wasn’t that far behind at Le Mans with old cars
@sekhyhybrid67014 жыл бұрын
Still the Mazda 787B was absolutely crap compared to the Sauber Mercedes C11 in performance. The only race the 787B won was the 1991 24 hours of Le Mans thanks to that both Sauber Mercedes C11s in front of it retired by mechanical issues or driver errors.
@thethirdman225 Жыл бұрын
There was nothing almighty about the 787B.
@schummiehugo4 жыл бұрын
17:00 hehe.. driver of shit ..in front of you ! ( dont now the track ) good work frend !
@davidrobinson69718 жыл бұрын
any know who the drivers where ?
@AlfieBriggsRacing8 жыл бұрын
+Toinou666 Rui aguas is in c11 and Herve in jag both pros
@shaadydog14 жыл бұрын
@@AlfieBriggsRacing Rui is currently a Silver License thats not even close to pro and at 42 not likely getting better, not sure about Herve.
@jonfrey94345 жыл бұрын
The Sauber ran out of rubber. Had to resort to blocking. I guess idle is 12,000 RPM's lol
@jonfrey94345 жыл бұрын
If you think you really want to go 175 plus...believe me...you really don't. A fraction of a second can change your life
@cbarronie2361 Жыл бұрын
178mph ain't to shabby for an old, rare & valuable sports car :)
@arkeusalexander9054 Жыл бұрын
It was far from going all out. If this was an actual competition it would be another story.
@thethirdman225 Жыл бұрын
@@arkeusalexander9054 What would that other story be?
@arkeusalexander9054 Жыл бұрын
@@thethirdman225 It would be as fast as LMP2 in low downforce setup tracks including Spa.
@thethirdman225 Жыл бұрын
@@arkeusalexander9054 Depends what you mean by ‘fast’. Would that result in lower lap times or just a higher top speed?
@arkeusalexander9054 Жыл бұрын
@@thethirdman225 I'm talking about lap times (at low downforce tracks such as Circuit de la Sarthe, Monza, Spa, Daytona...etc). Also this car on low downforce setting turn to dust any LMP2 in drag race.
@chejlr8 жыл бұрын
Did anyone notice that the c11 spun out?
@georgerosebush97547 жыл бұрын
Looks like the Jag cut him off and created contact.
@briangriffith39855 жыл бұрын
Under pressure
@thethirdman225 Жыл бұрын
@@georgerosebush9754 Payback.
@ZbigniewSobieraj-sd5rs Жыл бұрын
Dlaczego zwalniacie na zakrętach!
@denimstratton73085 жыл бұрын
Is the c11 faster than the c9
@drluiggi5 жыл бұрын
Think no, C11 generate more downforce and was never prepared for LM like C9, but with adequate gear ratios and air flow upgrades (less downforce) it will be at least on level of C9.
@joshuak43725 жыл бұрын
@@drluiggi never prepared for LM? Completed 355 laps. There isn't much more than that.
@drluiggi5 жыл бұрын
@@joshuak4372 Said never like C9 because they run on different LM arrangement, no need for such max speed. Overall C11 is faster around circuit, but not sure for max sped.
@pollemar4 жыл бұрын
The fact that F1 is in every corner 20-70% faster than this cars is noteworthy.
@vonPelger4 жыл бұрын
Actually they aren't t that fast. But the avon tyres this cars drive and the driver is way slower than f1 drivers is the main reason for speed difference. In Silverstone this car lapped 1:43 in the hands of marc gene....
@athonynesbitt79564 жыл бұрын
Turbocharged cars will always have a advantage on the straight, but that Jaguar xjr 14 V12 sounds Amazing😍😍😍
@MrDrakePrice4 жыл бұрын
Xjr 14 is a V8 my friend.
@passeli04 жыл бұрын
Sauber is way much faster in straights
@thethirdman225 Жыл бұрын
Didn’t pay off though, did it?
@modelcitizen19778 жыл бұрын
If the Sauber driver had as much balls as he did horsepower, he would have been out of sight after lap 3.
@robertmerritt50788 жыл бұрын
+Andrew Elias Very precious car nowadays. Won manufactures championship, won over half the races entered. Schumacher drove it. I would be careful as well if I had almost 1k hp and 900 kilos to deal with that I did not own.
@MarcoTav188 жыл бұрын
+Andrew Elias Perhaps it was slower in the corners but faster in the straights?
@neilwilliams28838 жыл бұрын
+Andrew Elias you would have done better I am sure... you definitely wouldnt worry about the value of the car either...
@AlfieBriggsRacing8 жыл бұрын
+Marco Tavella both cars have almost same power to weight but jag has better aero
@crisnally62738 жыл бұрын
+Robert Merritt You mean Schumacher was the second driver...Jochen Mass his leader was faster and so was Mauro Baldi the other supremely expert sportcars driver
@weesky20008 жыл бұрын
British VS German
@jase63707 жыл бұрын
Weesky sauber are swiss
@drluiggi5 жыл бұрын
= Brexit.
@jeff18505 жыл бұрын
Jag wins, despite clown of a driver over revving on both up and down shifts, and missing gears!! Put Andy Wallace, Teo Fabi or Martin Brundle in the Jag and see what it can really do. When you hold a gear too long, all your torque has long gone. And for all you fanboys making excuses for the Merc, don't embarrass yourselves! These cars raced each other in the real world and the Jag still won under race regulations, fair and square!
@drluiggi5 жыл бұрын
Of course, but they race in different class! So don't embarrass yourself, but learn some about racing rules.
@CRAZYGAMER-gc5tt4 жыл бұрын
No
@CRAZYGAMER-gc5tt4 жыл бұрын
They faced in the same class the c9 was penalised more for weight
@CRAZYGAMER-gc5tt4 жыл бұрын
Thanks driver is scared to put his foot down on the pedal maybe he doesn't want to bump into the c11
@grotesmurf19 жыл бұрын
Dumb sauber driver, and he ruined the fastest lap from the jag....and it was just practise,seems that ego's are sometimes to big.....btw great vid again!
@AlfieBriggsRacing8 жыл бұрын
It was a race
@aldomandovani4 жыл бұрын
Mi civic is faster its got nos and a K&N but the nos is hiden because its ilegal
@sabercruiser.70533 жыл бұрын
666 LIKES HAHA.
@Joe329422 жыл бұрын
This dude cant drive. Hard to watch.
@wolverine5564 жыл бұрын
A classic case of more money than talent, C11 driver clueless.
@banjitson4208 жыл бұрын
Dick move on the Jag driver between 16:53 and 16:55. Cut off the heavier cars line of approach in a historic themed practice. Thats even a Big NO NO even in Championship races. No touch and no forcing your opponent out of his line its just rude.
@Themayseffect8 жыл бұрын
+banjitson420 the c11 taped the Jag not the other way around. He gave the Merc plenty of space even though the Merc tried to close the door on him the turn earlier.
@AlfieBriggsRacing8 жыл бұрын
+Themayseffect it was race not practice and jag turned in accross the front of the Merc
@Themayseffect8 жыл бұрын
Alfie Briggs Racing I fail to see your point.
@AlfieBriggsRacing8 жыл бұрын
+Themayseffect the jag turned accros the c11 and the c11 couldn't move that's why there was contact
@kalevimaki38488 жыл бұрын
Jag driver is better. Sauber is better on straight exel. Who the fuck is this Sauber driver ? You do not do what this S. driver does. I´ve been racing with cars and bikes; one does not do that Sauber driver does.
@AlfieBriggsRacing8 жыл бұрын
It was defensive as had to block the apex for the jag
@Michaelingolfhansen6 жыл бұрын
These cars were built to comply with completely different regulations...! The Sauber weights 150 kg more than the Jaguar! That’s why its slower in the corners!
@thethirdman225 Жыл бұрын
@@Michaelingolfhansen The Sauber driver made a lot of mistakes.
@bbpetrov8 жыл бұрын
the slowest racing cars i've ever seen
@hertzwave80016 жыл бұрын
that was the C9 and it hit 248
@BidzaoPT6 жыл бұрын
@bbpetrov go home kid you're drunk...
@dragonfly4926 жыл бұрын
The C9 did hit 248mph during La Mans in 1989 but the C11 had a top speed of 252mph.
@M-28xD7 жыл бұрын
God this car sound awful. sounds like a piece of shit inline 4. c11 is music to my ears
@C42ST3N7 жыл бұрын
You know that the engine is a V8, right?
@AC_7027 жыл бұрын
What!??! That's a 3.5L V8 that screams like a motorcycle engine! And the -14 is still beautiful after all these years.
@thethirdman225 Жыл бұрын
@@AC_702 I think he one of those guys who thinks all engines should sound like NASCAR.
@M-28xD7 жыл бұрын
God this car sound awful. sounds like a piece of shit inline 4. c11 is music to my ears