Jake Wagner Testifies Against Brother, Details Pike County Massacre Timeline

[@cynthiacarter514]

The murders were not about Sofia’s safety. It is about a narcissist gaining control of his girlfriend the only way he knew he could. Especially when his mom showed Hannah’s text saying “They will have to kill me first.”

[@peggybaby0894]

I agree. I’ve seen a lot about these murders. I think his mom is who taught him to be that way. She wanted his daughter too and I’m sure had a hand in pushing him into wanting full custody emotionally.

[@cynthiacarter514]

@@peggybaby0894 What I cannot wrap my head around why didn’t one of them at some point say just one time, ”It is wrong to kill so count me out!”

[@jajajajenny6428]

If it was about Sofia , in all the time it took in the planning , someone would've thought about the impact it would have on Sofia to never know her mom or family . But they never did . Unless they truly believed being molested was far worse . IDIOTS

[@spicyirwin5835]

Being raised by Wagners would be the worst for Sofia. Teaching how to lie & grift.

[@taraize3254]

It was definitely the mother she admits that she told her husband that they would have to kill them and the father told the sons

[@Drop-Dead-Fred-Did-It]

All while Hannah had her newborn baby Kylie was in her arms when she was found. 💔 That just is absolutely soul destroying.

[@Erica_S_McClaine_]

It’s absolutely ridiculous that they gave him the choice to not be seen or heard! It’ll be the same with Angela. Murderers shouldn’t get that choice. At the very least, the judge should have let the audio be heard.

[@stacychilders7336]

He is a convicted murderer, he shouldn't have that right to opt out.. They just wasted a month of everyone's time and can't even hear what's being said.

[@southerncountry1132]

thats up in the air with Angela its been put to the judges discretion but im kinda glad jakes was or alot of ppl would be having alot of anxiety there is a word for word transcript read on pretty lies &alibis its truely disturbing

[@Bella.216]

You sound just like an armchair attorney. You may want to brush up on the laws

[@stacychilders7336]

@autistic housewife for our entertainment?? We wouldn't be entertained if he didn't commit murder than try to get away with it than get caught than tell the truth. We already know he's testifying, and we already know what he's going to be saying because of what was said in opening statements. What's the point in hiding now? everyone knows he's testifying.

[@grammylisa1]

Exactly, his 8 victims didn’t get to opt out.

[@Curious-Irish-Angel]

He has "opted out of being broadcasted" He shouldn't have the right to opt out of anything... Pure evil Heartbreaking. My heart and prayers go out to the loved ones of this tragic and incomprehensible crime

[@Rita-yw2tn]

I thought the same thing none of them should any rights to “ opt out “ of anything because they didn’t give the Rhoden family any rights to not be executed !

[@gardensofthegods]

Yes I agree with you with a 1,000% because that was my first thought , also .

[@marybinnie4741]

Prosecution should have not have made plea deal the whole lot of them should have got the death penalty

[@marcheeb9755]

I’m sure they had to make a deal based on what they thought they could prove to a jury. Better to have them all in prison for life then some of them walk free.

[@southerncountry1132]

I truly believe the two should switch places

[@cheeseybeano1735]

Didn't they in the the brother George can get the death penalty

[@marybinnie4741]

@@cheeseybeano1735 no cause jake Warner said the only way he was going to take the plea deal if all if them were involved in it that's why they will all get life without parole

[@skinovtheperineum1208]

I agree with you except the got part. I think they should have gotten the death penalty.

[@lyndacoleman4721]

Hey it doesn’t matter what mommy or brother, or daddy or anyone else tells you. Each individual makes their own choice for their own consequence

[@cynthiacarter514]

I agree

[@lyndacoleman4721]

She stayed home with the children wow she knowingly knew they were going to kill an entire family. She could have called the police and stopped it and saved everyone. She’s just as responsible as if those she held a gun or not and just like George just like Billy and just like Jake

[@skinovtheperineum1208]

Yep, she knowingly knew it all right!!

[@lisamh9037]

If that conniving wretch didn't in fact dream up the whole scheme in the first place, I feel like she was ALL IN on the planning of the caper, including forging papers and buying Walmart tennies to throw those pesky cops off the trail. This was right up her kooky alley. She probably has a detailed PowerPoint presentation buried under the new barn.

[@christinakaur8766]

I will never understand how people think murder is the best way to sort their lives out, and that they're going to get away with it. Hope they all get the book thrown at them.

[@mikehunt7888]

They could have gotten away with it if they were smart.

[@aClownBaby-]

@@mikehunt7888 If they were smarter they wouldn’t be in a killing situation

[@meneerhalfwerk7096]

I don't get why people don't just move... This must proof having one of the lowest intelligence possible.

[@skinovtheperineum1208]

@@meneerhalfwerk7096 - A lot of intelligence went into that last line, I can see.

[@skinovtheperineum1208]

@@mikehunt7888 - From law enforcement maybe, but nobody ever really 'gets away' with anything. EVER.

[@amywilkins543]

You guys are the best coverage out there hands down!!!

[@missmychance4454]

It wouldn’t surprise me if Angela was actually there with size 10 1/2-11 ugly tennis shoes on over her own shoes. That’s the kind of angel I think she is.

[@oliviaadan8208]

Lol Lol lol

[@lyndacoleman4721]

For one minute you can never make me believe that George Billy and Jake didn’t all have their hands in it driving shooting covering up all of it

[@KatJ3st]

agreed

[@DEARABBEY15]

Agree

[@moseymay1772]

An article I read today with some of his testimony in it does show a big hand of Billy for sure, and it sort of said Angela didn't want Jake to do it. I was surprised. I bet there is alot more to the story that we may never know.

[@anneheimburger3186]

He was probably sorry he got caught.

[@rosaliesimichak5483]

How does a mass murderer get to prohibit the media from covering his testimony? He should have no rights and suffer the consequences in lock up if this is his worry. He remarried and they all went on with their lives like nothing happened. All the while they attempt to paint this picture of the victims like their villains. I don’t care what drugs anyone sold. No one has a right to kill anyone let alone a group of people. They’re all disgusting, evil predators. Thank God the remaining kids will never have to see or speak with them again.

[@reallymariah894]

Jake is such a good Christian that he is still hiding. He’s even more despicable than I thought, if possible.

[@rogcat7181]

So glad you are in the court room !!

[@Harley59]

It does not matter if he (George) pulled the trigger to kill one of the 8. Dad, George, mom and Jake "ALL" knew long before the 1st killing happened. Each could of called law enforcement to prevent the loss. Each who rode up armed up and helped cover up are just as guilty of the killings. Period end of story.

[@terrymurphy7836]

He told them that he shot 8 people. What about Billy running out the house saying he just shot his friend. Someone s lying

[@jajajajenny6428]

More proof they are idiots

[@marshapieroni6677]

He said he shot six of the 8 people

[@EbonyJ-rt5bb]

Jake stated that he killed 5 and Billy killed 3… Jake said he shot Chris Sr. but only injured him that Billy killed Chris, Gary and Kenneth. Jake said he killed Hanna May, Dana, little Chris, Frankie and Hannah Hazel.

[@candy-gn9mf]

I definitely think the mother is the biggest issue of all of them she was the main cause of it all..

[@katetruthseeker2758]

A narcissist mother can ruin a whole family.

[@janejohnston7211]

I still can't believe parents would raise their children this way. I can't believe the kids didn't run away years ago. It's just freaking sick.

[@davide.b8027]

Imagine when this child comes of age and learns how dang important she is.

[@lolamaude3449]

I so agree.... Jake wagner viciously, cold bloodedly shot 8 people in the head and only got life in prison, not death. You shooter got special treatment. Yet, they want the death penalty for both George and their father. No way, life for those two also. I don''t know why the state ever going here. The mother should have gotten life too.

[@oliviaadan8208]

Completely agree.. would love to watch how funny it is when they r told every single day what they could or couldn't do ...lol lol And hopefully never get 2 c that precious little girl who had her mommy taken away from her by her daddy and now he is gone (well hopefully)

[@c.b.-11]

They're all guilty so round them all up. No plea bargains, no anonymity and no Mercy.

[@christopher399]

Why would criminals coöperate if they don't get any deals? Why would people turn themselves in if they'll face the same consequences no matter what? He's serving several life sentences. It's not like he got away with anything. He was just allowed to live the rest of his life locked up in prison, which I am guessing is about as amazing as it sounds.

[@hostyj]

Their evidence wasn't great without the confession.

[@sheldonshogrin6736]

@@christopher399 the biggest problem with "multiple life sentences" is that the prisons are run by private, for profit, businesses, and if we dug around, we'd find out that our politicians own stock in these companies. There is no incentive to reform inmates when you profit off of how many you keep in custody. It becomes the tax-payer's burden to house and feed criminals that won't do anything to contribute to their own life, and instead, will burden our society and tax payers with bogus law suits, actin up, etc, while in prison. They should be put to hard work to actually cover the costs of housing an inmate. If "hardened criminals" don't want to reform, and they have "life in prison", then their lives should be cut short. If you don't want to contribute to society in a positive, meaningful manner, contribute to covering the cost of your own life, you should be put down like your victims. Don't give criminals more rights than their victims or those that aren't incarcerated.

[@c.b.-11]

@@sheldonshogrin6736 well said

[@christopher399]

@@sheldonshogrin6736 More rights? They are in prison. They don't have the arguably most important right of them all: freedom. I disagree with a lot of what you said. I do believe prisons should have the main goal of rehabilitating the inmates, but I don't think the prisoners should be worked to death or killed. There are the moral reasons for that, but also the fact that sometimes we need time to come around. For example, I personally sought help back in 2016, but it took me a few years to come around and be willing to give therapy everything it takes. It might take a decade or two, but at some point, I think it's reasonably to assume that prisoners will want to turn their lives around. Certainly if they are to be released some day, but even if they are serving life, they probably want to end on a high note. They can be troublesome until they die, or they can turn their lives around and do something positive in prison. I know some lifers who turned their lives around have started talking to inmates that struggle. They may not be able to get out and change the world, but they can at least help out those that are in prison - some of whom will one day have their freedom back, and might take some of the lessons/advice from the lifers with them.

[@BrandyD1777]

It is sickening that many years later this is finally going to trial. Come on justice system....

[@pricklypear7516]

Whoa, there! The murders happened in April of 2016, but the case wasn't broken until November 2018 -- two and a half years later. The prosecution has eight victims, several different locations, four defendants, AND it's a capital case! Meanwhile, it's not as if the Wagners have been out there living it up. They've been incarcerated since their involvement was discovered. "The wheels of justice turn slowly, but they grind exceedingly fine."

[@FernVert]

That the family didn't discuss slaughtering 8 people is a lie.

[@lyndacoleman4721]

If you believe they didn’t talk about it after Jake’s ex-wife said they kept talking about it I have a feeling I know who’s lying Miss Angela and the rest of the Wagner family

[@destyhall765]

Why are they so worried about Jake's safety in jail. Him being a snitch is nothing compared to him being a murder. Reverse his DP option or put him on audio and video.

[@skinovtheperineum1208]

I can absolutely, positively GUARANTEE you this one thing: he is NOT a murder.

[@MR-fy8en]

How is he not a murderer? lmao😂​@@skinovtheperineum1208

[@lyndacoleman4721]

And I guessed you he answered in such a soft way that his brother did not have anything to do with that. If you’re driving a car and someone robs a bank and there is a murder inside the bank I will get charged with murder. No different here

[@leotachaney7322]

I recall a case of 2 very young men who robbed a convenience and the clerk had a heart attack as a result and died. These young men were convicted of murder. Actions have consequences......!

[@susanegittins6258]

Thinking Jake is this character who is a mama's boy trying to be tough. It's this family decision he will regret. No cameras makes him think it's easier to keep lying.

[@jajajajenny6428]

Typical coward .

[@rg-mi5hh]

He wants control. If he thinks he has it, he might talk. Let him talk. We don't need people who do this on the streets.

[@Dawn_sunflower]

Thank you!

[@MrPuglove13]

No, Nicholas Cruz got the best plea bargain without having to even sign a plea bargain. If 17 murders does not warrant a death sentence - then WHAT DOES??

[@sdsurfgirl60]

What made him "think" Sophia needed protection to the point where he needed to murder an entire family?

[@skinovtheperineum1208]

Dude named Satan.

[@polkadots716]

IMO, it's just a story Jake concocted to create mitigating circumstances, reducing the chance George and Billy will get the death penalty. His wife Beth's testimony that the Wagners accused her of touching the children inappropriately shows that the family has a history of making false allegations against people in order to intimidate and manipulate them.

[@kathleenwindsor5679]

@@skinovtheperineum1208 That dude’s name was not Satan, was Angela.

[@jajajajenny6428]

They should've killed themselves .

[@gardensofthegods]

I remember when I first learned about this case and reading the comments section someone had said that the murdering family were growing weed and were part of a cartel and so this was actually a hit and they're lying when they say that they were worried for the little girl . I believe that whoever wrote the comment had told the truth and the detectives needed to do some more digging but I guess it doesn't matter now anyway although it should

[@ashmomofboys]

In fairness, when I’ve been through something traumatic I typically will dis identify from it to discuss it. For example my brother passed away when I was 16. For a long time I couldn’t talk about it without crying. But now I disassociate from it while talking about it so I’m not emotional. It’s a coping mechanism to disconnect from an event and then talk about it with no emotions ie remorse.

[@joanwilson7781]

I was thinking that myself. Not to say that Jake has appropriate feelings about all things - he clearly has issues - but he still might have similar coping mechanisms. After several traumatic events which occurred in my life I eventually could speak about them, as you say, disconnected from it.

[@sdsurfgirl60]

I think it's you're brains way of protecting you.

[@larrylightfoot8738]

@@sdsurfgirl60 hence the word coping mechanism, your brain is trying to protect you from the stress of the emotions you are processing

[@stephanierice784]

Lost my mom and I grieve in that kind of way it sucks but it’s all I can do to keep it together

[@cynthiacarter514]

The issue I have is he has never shown remorse.

[@elainekoop4651]

Love your commentary and opinion on NewsNation Jesse! Always just the facts no bias!!

[@robinhunter4922]

Prayers for the family that's loss love ones my heart goes out to u.

[@79tazman]

That sucks the judge allowed these cowards to not be filmed I have never seen or heard of that before but I was hoping to hear from Jake

[@lorilopez1673]

Jake pled guilty on camera

[@ironmaven1760]

was "NO" ever an option here?? EVER?? How about even kidnapping the kid? ANYTHING short of full stop slaughter!!😭😭😪

[@tri7205]

The best plea bargain in the history of plea bargains. This is a travesty.

[@sekseemarcuskidd]

They didn't televise the testimony??? Wow 😲

[@southerncountry1132]

yes and no camera in court on George but not jake and no sound

[@gardensofthegods]

We the people had the right to see this and it just makes me angry that it seems more and more too many concessions are being given to the bad guys

[@delila351]

This entire family was involved and should have to face the DP for what they did. Evil people.

[@delila351]

IF George knew about it and did NOT call the police to stop this, he is as guilty as the shooters.

[@peggybaby0894]

I would like to know if they even tried to get custody through the courts. 50/50 is better than none like he ended up with.

[@katieeebarberella8546]

Jake lived in his own head like a fantasy, probably too lazy to go through the courts for custody

[@lorilopez1673]

They were brainwashed by the mom & dad since they were young children and didn't attend school

[@mindyrolston3915]

George's just as guilty he helped plan the murders he went along for the murders and he helped cover it up afterwards. He never tried to stop it or alert authorities he's just as guilty

[@daveco1270]

So you can opted out of being part pf the broadcast when a trial is being streamed? That doesn't seem right. They don't have to show his face, but he shouldn't be able to shut down the cameras like that.

[@southerncountry1132]

witnesses can but as l&c said the law was never meant for pleas bargains

[@oliviaadan8208]

Especially since this trial is actually paid 4 by the TAX PAYERS...Jake is an admitted murderer of multiple people and should have lost all rights

[@gardensofthegods]

@@southerncountry1132 but as one person has repeatedly said in these threads he actually is not a witness he is actually considered a co-conspirator and that makes him subject to what everybody else has had to go through with the hands of the prosecution and we have the right to see him

[@southerncountry1132]

@@gardensofthegods I WISH THAT WAS THE CASE BUT THE JUDGE GOT OVER RULED

[@lovepet4565]

Go listen to PRETTY LIES AND ALIBIS Its on You tube or Apple podcast She has someone in the court and goes thru every question and his answer every night Much more depth that LC

[@alisonumpleby8322]

Gigi & Eric make a good team

[@Leonicles]

Omg, THANK YOU!

[@Tatortotsnursery]

I would be much more worried about the kids being around the Wagner’s. Evil, controlling bunch. Hope they never see daylight again.

[@skinovtheperineum1208]

There is no apostrophe in Wagners.

[@gardensofthegods]

The evil Wagner's were a weed growing operation and part of a cartel these grisly murders were a hit ... that is the word on the street and I do believe it

[@skinovtheperineum1208]

@@gardensofthegods - What part of there is no apostrophe in Wagners don't you understand? Oh, and your 'theory' has been debunked like, years ago, lol. Word on the street is that you take it in the pooper.

[@stephanierice784]

This world is absolutely bat s*it crazy

[@Patricia-rn6xy]

I see George 4th pleading out sometime during this trial, and since he didn't pull a trigger would probably get a sentence like the 30 years deal his mother got

[@instantkarma2514]

I also thought he might in the first couple of weeks of the trial, but as it goes on my hope for that wanes.

[@rg-mi5hh]

If the mother had minded her own business, she wouldn't have known what Hanna said in a private conversation on facebook.

[@krystingrant6292]

My goodness how's the baby? 🥺😫 I hope she's safe

[@southerncountry1132]

they both are actually all 5 are

[@rg-mi5hh]

Wonder what goes through the minds of the people who escaped this bunch ....Cory Holdren, Tabitha, Kendra Rhoden, and Beth Ann. So glad they are safe.

[@lyndacoleman4721]

He had a choice just like George had a choice just like Angela had a choice just like Billy had a choice. Anyone of them could’ve said no. So all should get the same death penalty. Jake I don’t know what he said and if he really said anything, it should nullify all agreements including death penalty back on the table for all. The other family didn’t get to opt out of the death penalty did they

[@mandyblue7708]

I keep hearing jake couldn't be seen or heard cause of risk to his safety and snitches get stitches. He is going to prison for life. Do people saying this stuff REALLY believe people in prison are not going to find out?? REALLY???

[@Vizzini_]

I'm missing Mr. Brooks already

[@snowcattish]

I'm sure he'd appreciate a visitor once he gets settled into his new place 😏😉😂

[@Vizzini_]

@@snowcattish Time for me to cash in those airline miles

[@poochiekitty8062]

“I don’t consent to being called that name…..” 🙄🤣🙄

[@lindagarey9709]

Same. I am looking for a new trial 😂

[@tammygroves5739]

@@poochiekitty8062 For the record....

[@Dijabril]

In what country does the admitted Mass Murderer get a deal for no Death Penalty, and then get to control the courts proceedings? America! Of course, where everyone gets a medal.

[@ld4687]

In the same country that would also allow a 23 year old guy who admitted to premeditated murder of 17 people in a school in FL continue to breath oxygen until he dies versus giving him the death penalty that he was eligible for. Criminals have more rights than victims in this country.

[@Dijabril]

@@ld4687 Exactly. The same people who demand their second amendment rights have not stomach for the death penalty.

[@patriciaarmstrong6601]

Why did the cousin with the wrangler t-shirt on have gloves on when he was testifying.

[@lyndacoleman4721]

I can promise you the lawyers for George wanted to make it seem like George didn’t want to do this. Here’s the revelation George didn’t have to if he didn’t want to. I don’t care what part you play you played, now you pay with your life

[@christavanzyl6378]

Wrong‼️They were ALL being controlled by the matriarch. George was the only Male NOT PULLING TRIGGER. Master manipulator is the mother👎👎👎👹

[@rubyrigdon9938]

You are exactly right

[@gardensofthegods]

Worse yet is that they have been lying all along when saying they were concerned for the little girl because word on the street was that this murderous family had a weed growing operation and were actually part of a cartel ... In other words the brutal Massacre was a calculated hit and if that truth had gotten out to the jurors ... well ... think about how they would have voted ... less compassion towards those murderers unrightfully so but the truth has not been told yet now has it and they detectives and the FEDS need to know this is the word on the street and I believe it

[@caroltaylor9499]

I haven’t watched all the trial but if billy was driving one truck with jake and George hiding in the back who was driving the second truck as shown by the prosecution?

[@musclerussell8109]

Imagine ratting on your own brother

[@christavanzyl6378]

Jake the Snake👎👎👎😈

[@admin1815]

I have to question the judges thinking on these matters. He is not up to date at so many levels.

[@lyndacoleman4721]

Hey George could’ve took the same option he chose not to so now he can face is on consequence

[@jlee5821]

Bulvine, wtf?

[@southerncountry1132]

hes with mom

[@shanelewis617]

That's what I said! Who names a kid that? These people are seriously INBRED!

[@giuseppinasanger6410]

Bulvine sounds like “bovine,” which means cow, and that’s all I ever think about when I hear them say that name 😂

[@cdog1147]

@@giuseppinasanger6410 it actually is bovine lol

[@janethosler9815]

Why would anybody name their child Bovine? Did either parent understand the word means cattle

[@lyndacoleman4721]

How does a murderer get to opt out of anything. He made a deal he would testify it just so happens to be live. If he’s not gonna do it live he should opt out of his death avoidance because how do we know ,we can’t see his face we can’t see his body when questions are asked .we can’t hear his tone

[@paulab303]

I'm late in hearing about this case...Why is this just now going to trial? And what is the defense?

[@BRITTANYBANKSSMUSIC]

Kinda cringe the reporter dude at the beginning laughing and smiling at such a gruesome case😳😳😳😳

[@trishkuhne550]

Please cover the testimony in detail.

[@Hey_Siri_007]

It bothers me he was able to opt out. If our tax money (us in Ohio) is going to help house this dude for the rest of his life we should be able to see his testimony.

[@eddie8998]

you should call the police and ask to speak to the manager of ohio

[@karinkoen9767]

A mass murderer with all these rights. Wow, he pleaded guilty. How do you hide a face when everyone knows who you are 🤔

[@P1nkBanj0]

Who's got custody of Sofia now then?

[@southerncountry1132]

not disclosed

[@susanegittins6258]

I believe initially social services, but the mother's family had filed for custody.

[@jeanP924]

I have wondered that as well. Now Sophia will despise her father and grandparents and uncle George.

[@americanmeteoritefan9670]

I read somewhere that Angela's brother or brother in law has custody.

[@P1nkBanj0]

@@americanmeteoritefan9670 Somehow that's better than her own mom?

[@littlebird3393]

The older you [get] the more your past bubbles up. The good and the bad. If Jake😂 is suppressing these murders rest assured his own mind will convict him eventually.

[@omariwest9068]

This is the most senseless and selfish thing I’ve ever heard of.

[@Tew730]

its sick law enforcement cant deal with problems without cutting deals with murders its sick you dont give someone a break that murders people

[@ASAPLegal]

It feels strange looking at someone smile with glee while taking about a murder trial.

[@lucky7mojo]

the mother was an angel who stayed home the night of the murders? Manson also stayed home the night of the murders; lest we forget. Greg Allman Im No Angel heard in background.

[@lorilopez1673]

Sure did...he was a coward and hid in a bathroom vanity when he was arrested

[@celenadesjardin7088]

If a prison cell doesn't break the Wagner family, God will on each of their judgement days with him.

[@paranormalinvestgations]

No he shouldn't of been opt out his testimony what wrong with this court ? He though his brother under the bus !!

[@michealtorres8598]

Now the poor child has no family.

[@mslily3101]

Why isn't this on TV?

[@BH-1964]

after listening to today's accounting it kinda sounds like Angela is adding to the story! she's claiming Sophia had been violated by Chris Jr yet if that were true Jake would have said that bit he didn't they were afraid something was going to happen since Hannah was dating other men...

[@gardensofthegods]

I believe that their story about worrying so much about the little girl is a massive lie because the story I heard is that they had a weed growing operation and were part of a cartel and that this was a hit ... ... and I believe it 100% . Hopefully the police and the FEDS will do some more digging so that the truth will come out because okay they were found guilty but it's not a 100% revealed why the real reason why this horror happened and the truth needs to be told

[@danielakramarikova7801]

All trials are totally useless. We know who is killer, we know they get life penalty ( not dead penalty) This is for vomitting, how easy its to avoid dead penalty.

[@rg-mi5hh]

Were any of Billy Wagner's footprints at murder scenes? What size is his foot? Also, the camera that caught the two vehicles going down the road and then back the other direction. No camera caught any of them going into a residence? Even cameras on surrounding residents' properties? Why didn't Angela purchase shoes for Billy and none of his prints were found at the scene?

[@bradleybrown8399]

She really said "supposebly"...🙄

[@veteranhelpingveterans2113]

I lived 15 miles from pike county where this took place! Biggest murder case ever in southern Ohio!

[@MsLin1974]

Jake covering for George's part so they all don't go down its clear to see.

[@jenhylton5955]

They kill all of the family and they still find out that it is them that do it that family is a monster and a evil people

[@goredknight3017]

Every suspect that is on trial should have to wear a shock device on the bottom of the leg.

[@Slippindisc]

Day 31 and you’ve only filled out 2 notebooks? GROUNDS

[@pauldalnoky6055]

These jerks are just a little bit too happy.

[@paddyholly2184]

It's very clear that Jake's taking the Fall for The Family. Why Not? He's got Nothing to loose. He'll be in jail for the rest of his miserable life.

[@amelia_k1082]

Does Ohio have the death penalty?

[@615BlackBarbie]

They killed and still found out.

[@onefarwanderer]

There is no way he should be able to opt out of being broadcast during his testimony. The judge acts like he's 100 years old. Nobody's mike works consistently, nor can anyone speak up and into the microphone. None of the attorneys seem to be very quick when objecting to statements. The blonde woman prosecutor can't complete a sentence without Umm and Uh throughout. Her opening statement was painful. I'm not an attorney so maybe my ignorance is coming through, but as a layperson, this whole trial seems to be a farce. It certainly doesn't seem to be the biggest murder case in Ohio history.

[@emvitt]

I don't think it doesn't have worse. They're all poisonous and can kill, torture and are all monsters. it's like a poisonous snakes. They all are dangerous.

[@B.A.B.G.]

Is that what a hickey looks like?

[@KESnSC]

When is Billy’s trial?

[@1979ACR]

I think I heard sometime next year

[@Nora-xk5tf]

So George IV "Last minute," joined Billie, The Dad & Lil Bro Jake, bc G was concerned Dad might Kill Jake. And that night The Mother of the Year, Angela, is Who bugged Billie to resolve the situation. Per J the Dad is who 1st suggested the murders, but afterwards J tells Papa Bear, No regrets Bc he's afraid his father may kill himself. Plus, that night Mama Bear, takes a sleep sedative, tells Vine & Sophia, bedtime come to bed with her. How so strangely nonchalant, calus, to lay down her head on a pillow, hug Sophia (No shame) knowing before sunrise her Mom and her family will be Dead. Angela has an identical emotional landscape as Mom, cold, selfish narcissist. Consider This, Mother of the Year, Angela throws her 1st born son under the bus... A mother, a real Mother 1st would protect her children and tell George to confess after Jake did so George could maybe get her deal. So G could maybe get parole. She should of never had children. My Mother age 91 when her natural days were soon to end, she saw me crying as I was helping her to the Breakfast table. Why, she asked, concerned, I said Dad's already in Heaven, you are approaching your turn, once you go, there won't be anyone left on Earth who Loves me unconditionally... Now Honey you'll have your 10 siblings. Yes, I replied, But Mom I know if I was about to accidentally fall in front of a Train, You would throw yourself under the train to save Me," My Mother without hesitant exclaims, Yes, in a New York minute"... she passed away 6 months later, little bit before she'd have turned 92. This family is like a rotten onion. The more you peel under the layers, incredibly, underneath is more evil. Yes, too many contradictions as Wagners have no Souls. Sorry 4legnthy comment. Monsters!

[@betty-janececile5214]

He shot 2 or more people in the same house it was proven no one was awake when they were shot he used a home made silencer but I don't believe there would be no sound. Were all the bullets from one gun?

[@sj1345]

4 people were awake. Jake admitted that.

[@betty-janececile5214]

@@sj1345 the video I watch said there was no defensive wounds guess I'll have to look through them all ty

[@evelynmahoney3569]

Part of the plea deal Jake & Angela both sought was to have the death penalty removed for ALL 4 of THEM. It was a point of contention between the judge & the attorneys. I'm not sure what the actual outcome was, but it was definitely controversial. Also controversial was the plea deal being conditional upon Jake and Angela testifying not only against the others, but TESTIFYING TO THE STATE'S SATISFACTION.

[@vanessapanek9959]

Cause when it comes to a wood, porous surface, blood will leach down into the wood because it’s soaks it up

[@jaydengreen410]

Now he doing life in prison

[@jingles.1228]

I thought that in the plea deal Jake made with the state, that the death penalty had been completely taken off the table for all four Wagners...meaning no death penalty possibility for Jake, George, Billy or Angela - even if they were found guilty. So in this case - the most George could get if found guilty would be life without parole. Did I misunderstand that?

[@judieahmed98]

I thought that also jingles

[@christopher399]

I would assume so. Why would the rest get the same deal if they're not coöperating?

[@southerncountry1132]

no just jake. and then Angela was given 30 years but hers isn't final and after jake does the same in billies trial im sure Billie will get dp

[@lindaaitken7679]

Death penalty taken off IF he testifies against brother and dad in a way that suits the state.

[@amywilkins543]

Death penalty taken off the table for all of them as long as Jake testifies against family members and to the satisfaction of the state.

[@christinewatters2879]

If you kill eight people and then have to tell people in court how do people think it would be possible to do that, if not coldly. Otherwise you ain’t going to be able to tell it. Also, if you can do that deed, why should we expect emotion when talking about it. This guy shot the mother of his daughter, while she slept. If he is telling the truth, shot people in the face at point blank range.

[@virtualxella]

George Wagner should not be facing the death penalty. It's true Jake Wagner got the best plea deal in history. I really hope the jury remember that comment even if the objection was sustained. This is so unfair and is a mockery of the capital punishment system which I do generally support but not in this case if it can't be applied fairly.

[@SpandexSuperstarr]

Jake shouldn't have allowed a deal when he was the worst one.