Planar Portal Upgrades & Cuts [Magic: the Gathering D&D Commander Precon] Budget & Bling

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Jake and Joel are Magic

Jake and Joel are Magic

Күн бұрын

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@AndrewLamotheott
@AndrewLamotheott 3 жыл бұрын
Marionette Master will trigger from sacrificing treasure tokens as they are artifacts and technically hit the graveyard. It's the best finisher in the deck!
@jeffnorris211
@jeffnorris211 3 жыл бұрын
I’d find a spot for cranial plating in there if I was going for the marionette master kill.
@KeiruKeiru
@KeiruKeiru 3 жыл бұрын
@@jeffnorris211 Don't forget it's new baby brother Nettlecyst
@JakeandJoelareMagic
@JakeandJoelareMagic 3 жыл бұрын
I need to do a video because I specced MM back when it was spoiled. I have like 8 foils and maybe 20 regular copies. -jake
@AndrewLamotheott
@AndrewLamotheott 3 жыл бұрын
Never even thought of cranial plating / nettlecyst. Great ideas!
@DjZam28
@DjZam28 3 жыл бұрын
I came here to say this, 4 damage per sac’d treasure can get crazy quick. Nadier’s nightblade and reckless fireweaver also seem like a cool way to weaponize the treasures.
@JakeandJoelareMagic
@JakeandJoelareMagic 3 жыл бұрын
Hey everyone! I goofed! Etali is actually included in this deck precon.... for some reason, I must have missed that it was already in it! I knew it didn't make sense that this deck didn't have it! Apologies for suggesting that one... reviewing four hundred cards across four decks to make these made me miss that detail! Look at Chandra, Torch of Defiance at $8 for a budget inclusion instead of Etali. 1. Budget a. Dual Strike $1 b. Poison the Cup $1 c. Etali, Primal Storm $1 (nope! Chandra, Torch of Defiance $8) d. Dream Devourer $2 e. Rise of the Dread Marn $2 f. Murderous Rider $2 g. Bonecrusher Giant $3 h. Birgi, God of Storytelling $5 i. Harnfel Horn i. Revel in Riches $7 2. Bling a. Stolen Strategy $11 b. Jeska's Will $12 c. Valki, God of Lies $14 i. Tibalt d. Goldspan Dragon $21 e. Luxury Suite $23 f. Deflecting Swat $30 g. Bloodstained Mire $42 h. Dockside Extortionist $52 i. Ragavan, Nimble Pilferer $75 3. Cuts a. Marionette Master b. Ogre Slumlord c. Piper of the Swarm d. Chittering Witch e. Pontiff of Blight f. Dream Pillager g. Loyal Apprentice h. Hex i. Apex of Power
@Cory-G-chan
@Cory-G-chan 3 жыл бұрын
thanks for being thorough Joel!
@mr.mammuthusafricanavus8299
@mr.mammuthusafricanavus8299 3 жыл бұрын
I haven't seen anyone mention it yet but Knowledge Pool can be pretty silly in this deck :P
@regaleagle6533
@regaleagle6533 3 жыл бұрын
@@mr.mammuthusafricanavus8299 eh between share the spoils, possibility storm, and knowledge pool it’s a distant third I cut it
@perinthia6829
@perinthia6829 3 жыл бұрын
Marionet master is a huge wincon in the deck, imagine the ammount of treasure your making in this deck, each one of them dealing 4 to each opponent
@Kyuubi_the_orca
@Kyuubi_the_orca 3 жыл бұрын
i actually won 3 games with that card alone just blowing up 6 or more treasures made from either brass's bounty or prosper himself
@spartanboosts
@spartanboosts 3 жыл бұрын
MM deals damage to target opponent, not each opponent?
@PatrickMurphy-sg5fn
@PatrickMurphy-sg5fn 3 жыл бұрын
love video as usual. 2 things I think you missed. Xorn is a must include, and Marionette Master I think is a decent wincon for budget decks (What you are missing is that if you put the +1/+1 counters on MM, it deals 4 damage each time you sac a treasure token).
@kolorz2775
@kolorz2775 3 жыл бұрын
Finally. I've been waiting for this one!
@nickd6303
@nickd6303 3 жыл бұрын
One card that no one seems to be mentioning that can be really good in the deck is hedonists trove, making use of your opponents graveyard sounds like a fun idea. On a different note I'm pretty sure madness cards do count as being cast from exile.
@mr.mammuthusafricanavus8299
@mr.mammuthusafricanavus8299 3 жыл бұрын
They do :P
@jorgynryys5253
@jorgynryys5253 3 жыл бұрын
Etali is in the deck. And you forgot about Treasure Vault.
@JakeandJoelareMagic
@JakeandJoelareMagic 3 жыл бұрын
Jorgyn, I just double checked and you're absolutely right! I must have been looking at the wrong list 🤔
@Fearthelettuce
@Fearthelettuce 3 жыл бұрын
Love the video! But I have to disagree on Marionette Master. You use the +1/+1 counters, not the tokens, and then ping your opponents when you sac treasures.
@JakeandJoelareMagic
@JakeandJoelareMagic 3 жыл бұрын
I was super wrong on Marionette Master. For some reason my brain didn't connect treasure tokens to its ability. Big oof on my side lol. You're totally right
@brenmac7323
@brenmac7323 3 жыл бұрын
Finally have a use for slow Profane Tutor and Sol Talisman, once suspend in exile ends the card is "played" and Prosper triggers. Then can tutor for Revel in Riches. Also been enjoying Treasure Vault as a utility land for more treasures in this deck.
@rteishe
@rteishe 3 жыл бұрын
Another great upgrade video. Was waiting for this one as it's the one I picked up, I find it the most interesting. Only cut I disagree with is Marionette Master...you def don't fabricate the servos...you add to its power so EVERY treasure you sac dings the table for 4. That could get out of hand fast. Otherwise, dope stuff 👌
@aaronmiller7775
@aaronmiller7775 3 жыл бұрын
Wanting to make a Drizzt DoUrden deck and wonders how you would build 3 way
@SpendingTimewithJorden
@SpendingTimewithJorden 3 жыл бұрын
This is the one I was most excited for. I would love to see a version of this as well For other commanders not just precautions. Awesome work guys keep it up
@michaelbader6564
@michaelbader6564 3 жыл бұрын
add Storm-Kiln Artist & Xorn and you swim in teasures like Dagobert Duck .... Did also add "Academy Manufactor" but didn't draw it yet..... Marionette Master is perfect when you are thinking about what to do with 20-30 treasures
@obicortes8199
@obicortes8199 3 жыл бұрын
I went with embereth shield breaker instead of bone crusher giant because I preferred destroying an artifact for one instead of the shock. As others have said Marionette Master can help finish the game by adding the +1/+1 counters from fabricate. To add to that I am also play testing Kalain, Reclusive Painter to help my creature be a little bigger. Using it with Marionette Master gave me a 9/10 MM so I was doing 9 damage each time I used a treasure.
@trojrafal
@trojrafal 3 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to adding and subtracting with this deck. Thanks for the awesome video. Loads of info to consider.
@sidewalkid
@sidewalkid 3 жыл бұрын
Hey dude I'm new to magic so the mechanics and stuff are still really tricky for me. I got this deck and it felt really advanced and I couldn't seem to get it to work. I looked on websites for upgrades and again the mechanics seemed really complex so I got the recommended upgrades but didn't really know how to use them. This is the first guide that I've seen about this deck where they break down the meaning of things like foretell and holy shit now I understand what I need to do and to look for so this deck can work!
@JoshSuperNova
@JoshSuperNova 3 жыл бұрын
Marionette Master is the win con in the deck. Every treasure you sacrifice deals 4 damage to an opponent. It shouldn’t get the chop
@durandalbbcom
@durandalbbcom 3 жыл бұрын
Came here to say this. Thank you
@EVH5150II
@EVH5150II Жыл бұрын
I'm quite surprised to not see Academy Manufactor here.
@JustASpider980
@JustASpider980 9 ай бұрын
So my playgroup loves Deflecting Palm effects (Cause who doesn't? Shits funny as hell) and the "Damage Can't Be Prevented" counters that pretty hard. Just a tip if your playgroup loves that card as much as mine
@Timelord888
@Timelord888 3 жыл бұрын
God of storys is good imo. You get an extra mana from casting spells. That gives you more to do.
@jemm113
@jemm113 3 жыл бұрын
And her flip side plays from exile too!
@Remlap_MTG
@Remlap_MTG 9 ай бұрын
Building Prosper and it’s funny to see dockside go from 50 to what, almost 100 now? 😂
@Naturessightsandsounds7040
@Naturessightsandsounds7040 3 жыл бұрын
A mtg youtuber who actually plays the game I feel like that is becoming more rare now with everybody obsessed with pack cracking.
@Cory-G-chan
@Cory-G-chan 3 жыл бұрын
Impulse draw everything!
@tristanphipps8077
@tristanphipps8077 3 жыл бұрын
After playtesting this deck even one time you will realize the true power of [[Marionette Master]]. Definitely do not cut this card. In fact, you should be adding the entire package of these treasure payoff cards, as follows: - [[Disciple of the Vault]] - [[Reckless Fireweaver]] - [[Nadier's Nightblade]] - [[Mayhem Devil]] Keep [[Prosper]] on the battlefield and watch your rate of treasure generation and sacrifice explode. Since the deck basically has no synergy other than the commander, you should also include the entire protection package, as follows: - [[Swiftfoot Boots]] - [[Lightning Greaves]] - [[Darksteel Plate]] - [[Ring of Xathrid]]
@mr.mammuthusafricanavus8299
@mr.mammuthusafricanavus8299 3 жыл бұрын
Masterwork of Ingenuity, more back up and sometimes you can just copy your opponents version. Magnetic Theft can be good also as a one time form of instant equip/steal :P
@regaleagle6533
@regaleagle6533 3 жыл бұрын
Xorn and academy manufactor lean hard into the artifact saccing also. It’s I still like pontiff as well when I get some of those payoff for using treasure cards going I think burning treasure for even more damage through extort can be better than continuing to durdle to get more treasure. Oh also brass bounty and mizzix mastery aren’t in deck super good.
@bigtonka34
@bigtonka34 3 жыл бұрын
I think I would lean into madness cards as well.
@devinbremke7142
@devinbremke7142 3 жыл бұрын
Question don't tokens go to the graveyard? So a treasure hits the graveyard so marionette ability would hit our opponents for every treasure sacrificed
@regaleagle6533
@regaleagle6533 3 жыл бұрын
This is correct
@MetFreak42
@MetFreak42 2 жыл бұрын
Um, actually, thats "Plane-er", not " plan-er." = As in, plane of existence. Thank you for this vid! From what I see it is the only one covering this topic.
@PanduRiyadi
@PanduRiyadi 3 жыл бұрын
I think Laelia from Lorehold Precon can be added to this deck, can be a big hitter
@kennethdixoniii4113
@kennethdixoniii4113 3 жыл бұрын
I’m tired of playing Korvold. I may take it apart to build a Prosper deck.
@jeffnorris211
@jeffnorris211 3 жыл бұрын
Sunbirds invocation good enough? I find myself Cutting that card more often than not anymore because 6 mana for that then no follow up feels Bad.
@tristanphipps8077
@tristanphipps8077 3 жыл бұрын
Sunbird's Invocation is bad because the condition is casting spells from your hand, which you are trying NOT to do in this deck, and the extra spells it gives you are not cast from exile, just revealed. This card has zero synergy with this deck.
@jeffapple3002
@jeffapple3002 2 жыл бұрын
Etali was in the deck i bought
@DylanCEdh
@DylanCEdh 3 жыл бұрын
Most expensive is probably gonna be Ragavan or Tibalt, calling it now
@HughMurphy395
@HughMurphy395 3 жыл бұрын
If you're interested in stealing your opponent's cards, then Praetor's Grasp would also work well.
@KeiruKeiru
@KeiruKeiru 3 жыл бұрын
Xorn - why have 1 treasure when you could have 2?
@mr.mammuthusafricanavus8299
@mr.mammuthusafricanavus8299 3 жыл бұрын
Academy Manufacterer: Whir* Lets make also food and clue *click :P
@zumszum
@zumszum 2 жыл бұрын
When you have Xorn and Goldspan on board then anything that costs less than 4 net`s you a positive mana balance.
@MaxSpider2000
@MaxSpider2000 3 жыл бұрын
Bro stop messing around. Etali is definitely included in the precon. I just ordered it and You almost gave me a heart attack
@shikabaneconga
@shikabaneconga 3 жыл бұрын
hex is only good in mono black, what do you have, damnation, extinction event, and hex, just need another board wipe
@regaleagle6533
@regaleagle6533 3 жыл бұрын
Hex is better in Killian than monoblack
@enersha
@enersha 3 жыл бұрын
I miss the hilarious fun strong mean intros please bring funny intros back
@Y0kAiS
@Y0kAiS 3 жыл бұрын
Ragavan
@JakeandJoelareMagic
@JakeandJoelareMagic 3 жыл бұрын
nailed it
@DAsrada
@DAsrada 3 жыл бұрын
Etsy? I know what we're doing today.
@punkypinko2965
@punkypinko2965 3 жыл бұрын
Oh my god there's a face COMING AT ME ... oh wait, it was just your intro. Weird.
@classicbikerx3588
@classicbikerx3588 Жыл бұрын
Some bad info here all corrected in the comments. You should remake the vid
@Razdasoldier
@Razdasoldier 3 жыл бұрын
$70 Ragavan
@brennigemanuel6568
@brennigemanuel6568 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah man, disagree with marrionette master 100% its such a good wincon whenever treasures are involved, also check your rulings on cards before releasing shorts, that phyrexian unlife video has a few errors. The quality of your content is good but the information you share and your understanding of the game need improving if you are going to be an 'influencer'.
@JakeandJoelareMagic
@JakeandJoelareMagic 3 жыл бұрын
I already talked about missing the marionette master synergy. Hundreds of cards to go through, you'll have to forgive me if I make a mistake now and again. Not sure what errors you're talking about in the winning at zero life short. Thanks for the feedback
@brennigemanuel6568
@brennigemanuel6568 3 жыл бұрын
@@JakeandJoelareMagic the combo works fine, just minor details like the wall doesnt get +1/+1 counters and you can go to negative infinite with out dying if you lose life. only damage causes you to get poison counters below 0. Also fun side note if your on 1 life and you get hit for 11 damage you got to - 10 without infect since it only checks once your damaged on 0 or less life. Also didnt realise you posted this 2 weeks ago ahaha youve probably heard about marrionette master a lot so my bad!
@timple89
@timple89 3 жыл бұрын
Marionette master shouldn't be cut. That was just a terrible, terrible, terrible decision. Everytime I get her onto the battlefield if no one has responses I just win the game cracking treasures a taking out the other players.
@mcfuddy2520
@mcfuddy2520 3 жыл бұрын
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