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Things are about to get real with The Command Zone crew! Josh Lee Kwai, Craig “Mr. Infect” Blanchette, Gaurav Gulati, and Jordan Pridgen face off with some of their spiciest personal decks. It’s a game full of big plays, cool deals, and suprisingly high stakes (you'll see what we mean).
It's Prosper vs. Nemata vs. Oloro vs. Nicol Bolas. But only one can claim glorious victory!
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[@iambensummers]

Josh clearly said he wouldn't kill the Apex Devastator, but he *also* said it wasn't his preference to kill it.

[@kaiwolf6020]

Agreed In my books, Jordan was right and won the bet. Josh was giving an answer ("yes") and an explanation. The explanation was not a condition. Am I wrong?

[@liddantheone]

@@kaiwolf6020 I agree. It not being his preference is irrelevant after saying "yeah" on the question "will you not kill it if I don't attack you with it?". But then Josh didn't kill it and Jordan did attack him with it breaking the deal... so 1-1 I guess.

[@terriblenorwegiangaming547]

Jordan made the biggest bo-bo in the end, but would have won the bet hands down if not for that attack. I hope Josh knows that, and not believe he can add a sentence that erase the yes he gave to jordans question. Fun episode and seeing their discussion and feelings in that situation.

[@adbeshonar]

@@liddantheone however, Jordan did not say he wouldn't attack Josh. He asked Josh if he wouldn't kill it if he attacked him, to which Josh said yes. A question was posed but a deal never confirmed, at least on camera. And regardless, Josh did kill it when Jordan did attack, thus confirming Joshes statement of not killing if it he didn't attack. So since a deal wasn't made it wasn't broken. But do agree that an explanation does not change Joshes original proposal of a deal.

[@kaiwolf6020]

@@liddantheone Yeah... 1-1 seems fair :D They should take the money and enjoy dinner together. Amazing episode anyway!

[@tinosdragatsis]

Craig nearly cried when Jordan said he had a force of will.

[@brunomachioni3490]

what is the card josh used against him with mono white?

[@dixoncider1674]

@@brunomachioni3490 Laps of Certainty

[@blubberwasser5105]

@@dixoncider1674 which episode was that?

[@Boringwerewolf]

@@blubberwasser5105 the ravnica ones with genjl.And with Olivia Sorry if I got something wrong

[@blubberwasser5105]

@@Boringwerewolf haha thanks, I found it :D kzbin.info/www/bejne/iqDQg2t7ft-roZI this video here, 25:10

[@skylersuarez598]

No one: Josh: we’re playing fair magic Also Josh: has a million permanents on turn four

[@aartbluestoke3352]

yeah, but followed by Josh having more stuff of his destroyed than everyone else put together.

[@salihnu]

@@aartbluestoke3352 are you counting his treasures that he sacrifices?

[@IanWeaver]

"Will you not kill it?" "Yeah!" There ya go. Josh, you owe him 50 bucks.

[@Debatra.]

A hundred now that he's been given the fifty from "winning" the bet.

[@jamessparks3731]

What a weasel. And the balls to bring it up again in the post game recording. Which was probably weeks after the game itself. Feel like he’s all about the money judging by the amount of ads and product hype they are throwing everywhere. They are coming away from the fans and are just shills of WoTC. Be nice to see them critical for once on stuff. Guess we have the prof to balance things out.

[@Debatra.]

@@jamessparks3731 I wouldn't go quite that far.

[@Kazz1187]

@@jamessparks3731 it’s almost like they need to make money to pay bills in today’s society

[@jamessparks3731]

@@Kazz1187 oh for sure. And it’s great that we can just fast forward through it. But I don’t find them to be totally objective around the state of the game. I can appreciate that they would want to play nice with members in those circles in order to get some big name people to be part of their content. Just saying that the content earlier on their channel has truly gone through a evolution of money first.

[@davidmagno2998]

If there's Craig, then it's instantly one of the best episodes.

[@loorky2126]

SO TRUE!!!

[@Turn2Ugin]

Amen brother

[@adambaptiste5345]

Speaking truths

[@lewish1248]

Agreed, I never thought I’d root for the resident Phyrexian but here we are!

[@TripleBMusic]

His playstyle is infectious!

[@GrimSoulBanisher]

I'm in Jordan's side. The deal was finished BEFORE Josh said, "It is not my preference to kill it". He tried to alter the deal and Darth Vader, Josh is not.

[@Joshbobjovi]

But the deal was "If I don't attack you with it, will you not kill it." And then he attacked him with it lol. I can't see how everyone is on Jordan's side here, Josh held up his end?

[@MinecraftSeedsNet]

@@Joshbobjovi theres two things here. One is the deal they made (If I don't attack you with it, will you not kill it), and the other thing is the bet they made (you said you wouldn't kill it?! No, I only said it's not my preference). Josh clearly lost the bet. Thtats what most here are worked up about. If you consider their exchange a deal made, then Jordan did break that deal by attacking. It can be argued however, that just asking and answering a question (If I don't attack you with it, will you not kill it? -Yeah) doesn't qualify as a deal made. But that depends on how that's viewed in the playgroup honestly.

[@Aaron-qe9ms]

If it was a deal, it had 2 sides.. Everyone's pissed about Josh arguing a bit about the wording even though he still followed through, but nobody (NOT A DAMN SOUL) has actually mentioned that Jordan _actually_ BROKE the deal by swinging at Josh with Apex. Literal smooth brains out here.

[@Sheriff_K]

@@Joshbobjovi The deal, or lack thereof, is IRRELEVANT to the bet. The bet was whether he agreed, and Josh did in fact say "yeah" (a positive affirmation) to Jordan's question, thus Jordan wins the bet regardless of any deal that did or didn't happen or was or wasn't broken.

[@chickennoodles4491]

yeah but he attacked josh with the apex devastator… so he did backstab josh

[@cameronfotheringham6659]

"Will you not kill it if I don't attack you with it?" "Yeah." Deal made "It is not my preference to kill it" flimsy exit clause at best. Bet wasn't in Josh's favour.

[@viviblue7277]

If that was a deal the deal was broken by the attack. $100 fine for breaking the deal.

[@s.hemsted2614]

Except...he did actually attack him with it...so he probably should have just blown up the devestator

[@Aaron-qe9ms]

"will you not kill it if I don't attack you with it?" "yeah" *Deal made* "It's not my preference to kill it." Josh: Still follows through despite that Jordan: *attacks Josh anyway* Comment section: "How dare Josh."

[@Aldrnari956]

Got some real ‘dad’s hangout night with the fellas’ vibe to this episode. I love it

[@alexanderson3906]

Jordan Clearly won the side bet, it doesn't matter that Josh said it wasn't his preference, it that he said he wouldn't kill it, which Josh did say.

[@fernandostar3507]

Exactly, to be honest I would have left that game pretty mad at Josh..not because he destroyed my card but because his word doesn't mean anything. Now I'll never trust anything he says in any game in the future.

[@marsultor878]

@@fernandostar3507 Well to be fair Josh didnt kill the apex devastator so he kept his word.

[@Aaron-qe9ms]

@@fernandostar3507 I mean, Jordan broke his half of the promise of NOT swinging at Josh with the apex.. You should feel a little silly putting so much onus on the guy who actually kept his end of the deal.

[@NoChillCC]

@@fernandostar3507 a one time mistake between a friend and/or coworker shouldn’t mean a loss of trust forever

[@Aaron-qe9ms]

Josh is still the one with more integrity in the end. Josh didn't think he made a deal, but followed through with it anyway. Jordan made a deal to not attack Josh, and while fully knowing that, he attacked Josh anyway, breaking the deal while at the same time STILL trying to hold Josh to a broken deal Josh wasn't even sure he made. Josh is still the bigger man here, even if he doesn't _want_ to pay up.. cus who would after those shitty circumstances?

[@rteishe]

Prosper, Tome Bound....literally the best example of "fun" & "powerful" overlapping on a commander in years

[@MisterJ355]

One of my new personal favorites. So many different ways to build him

[@zacharysain8516]

He’s too much

[@squareoasis6975]

@@zacharysain8516 Too much?

[@collin2791]

He’s extremely annoying to play against if your build is right. You practically can’t play the game anymore

[@squareoasis6975]

@@collin2791 I play Prosper. The deck is definitely no longer the precon and the power level is probably high. However, limited to Rakdos, it's not as wild. What builds have you played against?

[@addambarcelos]

Craig with the fear of seeing force of will in a mono green deck is that little running joke that always make me laugh xD

[@djjmandos]

I feel like Craig is that guy who said once that he likes cats and then everyone started buying them cat paraphernalia, so he just rolled with it and became the cat guy.

[@LordZurkov]

To be fair, there are not very many actually good infect cards, and Craig seems to run them as often as he can manage

[@Sheriff_K]

I was actually thinking the same thing.. "After all these years, does Craig STILL like Infect? Does Brian STILL like Dragons? Or have their tastes changed.."

[@sambrooks4993]

After Gaurav got Aetherfluxed, Jordan's delivery on "that man had a family" sent me. Great episode 👍

[@smittynumber1812]

Famous last words: "I think I can survive Craig's turn"

[@SilverSpectre266]

As someone who only recently got into MTG around the Guilds of Ravnica and War of the Spark where Nicol Bolas is an immensely powerful and terrifying God Pharoah, its insanely humorous seeing him as an old man in a rocking chair looking like hes peacefully reading a book

[@TeensierPython]

But that’s the O G Nic. He’s just a wise old dragon.

[@RoxyGotMoxy.]

Don't sleep on old Nikki B, he can be DISGUSTING, especially as his ability triggers on ALL damage not just Combat damage. Drop a Dragon Tempest before casting him. He pings an opponent for 1 damage. BOOM their hand is gone. He then also has haste from the Tempest, so you hit another player in combat for 7 commander damage, oh and they discard their entire hand too, on the same turn! Now imagine that with Waste Not in play! Cards, mana for extra plays, or build-your-own-zombie-horde. For free! Then imagine him having something like Quicksilver Dagger enchanted so he can ping at instant speed and draw. I eventually swapped him out for the 4 mana flip-walker Bolas in my Bolas vorthos edh deck, but yeah, do not sleep on OG Nikki B or he will absolutely fuck you up.

[@snerdbrgrSkips]

The Craig - force of will thing at the end is actually a callback from an early episode where Josh played, Titania - a green deck, and saying it may have had a counterspell

[@sacredbeastzenon]

Actually, I think it's quite obvious they're talking about Game Knights #21. JLK was playing Emmara, Soul of the Accord. Craig attempted to play an Elesh Norn to wipe JLK's board, but JLK counters with Lapse of Certainty which is a white counter spell.

[@snerdbrgrSkips]

I don't know this was meant to be a joke. Since both deck involves having a counterspell on a green deck

[@saucercrabzero]

Also, in the Adventures In The Forgotten Realms skit, Josh asks the Wizard if his spells resolve, but the Wizard is playing mono green

[@maxspecs]

Craig very clearly has some kind of ptsd about getting counterspelled from non-blue decks....

[@franbh94]

Yeah, mono-green countering spells is a Craig meme nowadays. They also referenced that time when there were a Lapse of Certainty (a White Memory Lapse) and a couple non-blue counterspells/redirect effects.

[@Whateverworksman93]

Jordan asked "will you not kill it if I say I won't swing it at you" Then Josh confirmed he would not kill it because he was worried about Craig. As of that moment, the deal is "I will not kill the AD if you do not swing it at me", then he follows up with the vaguest nonstatement "it is not my preference to kill it" which means nothing, you already said you would not kill it. Then when someone |(probably jokingly) said "now you have to kill it" and Jordan presses Josh, Josh backtracks with, "I said 'it's not my preference to kill it'", which means from JOSH'S perspective there was no deal made. So now Jordan is free to swing into Josh because JOSH decided to play word games and have his cake and eat it too. If Josh had stuck to his word and said "yeah I said I wouldn't kill the AD so long as you don't swing at me" then the deal is in play, and Jordan can't swing in or HE breaks the deal. Adding a little clarifying statement like "it's not my first choice" to every time you have a potential answer is some far-reaching lawyering shenaniganery and I personally would have been absolutely pissed if someone tried to pull that one me. Josh explicitly said "yeah I won't kill it, I have bigger problems" then tried to choose which option was easier for him when push came to shove, and that's the kind of stuff that would make me wary of every making future deals with him because I would be afraid he would pull something like that. I'm all for being specific with deals, like saying "I won't swing at you doesn't mean I can't destroy your board that wasn't in the deal" but this was full-on backtracking and trying to act like he hadn't said what he said. What, do you need a blood signed contract to hold you to your word in commander?

[@valkopuhelin2581]

Watching this, I really thought the bet should have been resolved the opposite way.

[@Aaron-qe9ms]

Since Jordan attacked Josh with the Devastator, I'd say the bet is moot. Josh technically didn't make the deal but followed through with it, while Jordan made the deal but broke it despite making a big deal about it.

[@jamesmoore1476]

@@Aaron-qe9ms The bet had nothing to do with keeping the deal they made/didn't make. He said that Josh agreed to it, Josh claimed he didn't. Josh said "Yeah! I need to protect myself from Craig" and clearly agreed to it, confirming Jordan's belief, they showed it in the video. Jordan then attacked with the Apex anyway making the deal moot, Josh could have killed it and kept his word. However, Josh straight up lied when he claimed he never agreed to the deal in the first place and only stated it was his preference not to kill it. He tried to pull some of his bullshit doublespeak after Jordan already moved on and was definitely not enough to negate that fact that he just accepted Jordan's terms.

[@airenrain]

Ya know, in response to Prosper’s trigger you can activate Top and put it on top so it gets exiled and since it’s only 1 then you always know you can cast it that way you don’t accidentally exiled one of the finishers or stupid pricy spells. That’s kinda busted gross honestly

[@geckonerd3734]

Welp, I may have to get one for my Prosper deck now, I like the sound of that.

[@CriticoDeNo0bs]

I'm currently on isolation due to covid. Josh playing Prosper? Craig is back? This game was exactly what I needed!

[@jesspratt2279]

Me too!

[@riverketcherside1256]

Same here

[@clasherking4528]

Same friend

[@exprime8872]

Get well soon!

[@CriticoDeNo0bs]

@@exprime8872 Thank you! I'm actually feeling pretty well, however, I'm doing the isolation anyways, as I don't want to spread it

[@Arufonsa1]

Wait… I’m confused. Josh lost that bet didn’t he?

[@dillongause7528]

Only if he killed Jordan's 10/10 he disnt he killed his commander

[@Arufonsa1]

@@dillongause7528 Right? But that wasn’t the basis of the bet.

[@Aaron-qe9ms]

@@Arufonsa1 But Jordan also attacked Josh with the 10/10 when it was part of the deal that he wouldn't. I'd say the bet is moot.

[@jamesmoore1476]

Yes, Josh lost the bet and Jordan broke the deal. The bet being that Josh agreed to a deal to begin with.

[@K9affirmative]

Watching Josh just allowed to run away with his value engine without anyone able to stop him for the 500th time is so boring at this point

[@paulfitzpatrick8288]

Thought the same and I'm only 13 minutes in.

[@reutermo]

Except that he didn't win, and didn't even get second place?

[@K9affirmative]

@@reutermo he didn't win because he decided to end his own game with the aetherflux reservoir. He still spent the entire game with a value engine nobody interacted with

[@chaosof99]

Josh owes Jordan 50 bucks.

[@christophermartinez6575]

josh owes him 100 needs to pay him back the 50 and the 50 for the bet

[@LJKidAwesome]

Bro how much are the decks used in this episode my GOD 😳 Also Josh you KNOWWWWW you lost that bet Mr 😡

[@strickermic]

i don't usually comment on these, but the chemistry between you 4 was really fun to watch! Thank you.

[@Slekke]

Small error detected at 24:31 . Josh pays for extort triggers with a fellwar stone, swamp and a Den of the Bugbear. Can't pay extort with red mana from the Den. Don't think it's a big mistake but thought it worth mentioning. :)

[@MRnobodyoftheeveryb]

He also extorted when Gaurav was already dead, still got 3 life😅

[@Slekke]

@@MRnobodyoftheeveryb Thought the same thing at first but 1 life was from the Aetherflux trigger

[@michaelgierusz5754]

@@MRnobodyoftheeveryb no he got three life 2 from extort and 1 from Aetherflux

[@hughsammy4278]

Newb here, but wouldn't cards with extort be illegal because they have a white mana symbol on them wich isn't in the color identity of Prosper?

[@michaelgierusz5754]

@@hughsammy4278 Hey! So you are right with color identity, Prosper is red and black, but because the mana symbol for extort is in the reminder text of extort it doesn't actually have a color based on those symbols.

[@jamesgratz4771]

Nicol bolas ??? Dang it’s been a while lol. He’s literally the scourge of dominaria

[@jimrosasrodriguez4050]

Wait wait wait wait!!! Josh 100% lost that bet! Jordan asked “will you not kill it” and Josh responded,” Yeah”. Everything Josh says afterwards is just justifying why he wouldn’t kill the Apex, it’s not contradicting it. I love JLK but he lost that bet

[@leeleslieart]

agreed

[@Gamemaniac92711]

Except the "Will you not kill it IF I don't attack you with it" Meaning Jordan attacking Josh with it made Josh not a liar

[@leeleslieart]

@@Gamemaniac92711 In the end sure, but that seemed to not be what the bet was about.

[@LukePackenham]

Have you guys ever thought of like posting what cards in each players hand, during their turn, on like the bottom of the screen or something Also 7:38 hahahahahahaha

[@luliby2309]

Okay, so for that hilarious deal...Josh said it wasn't his preference to kill the Devastator, but the deal previously made was to not kill it, so basically Josh got exactly what he wanted by not killing it. And then they both forgot that it wasn't supposed to attack Josh. XD

[@evilpandsaysyo]

Josh was 100% in the wrong there. Gave a clear yes to the question of a deal then tried to walk back on it. Jordan attacking him in the end changes nothing cause Josh had already, if not broken the deal, clearly announced his intention of breaking it. Josh needs to be sending his money back.

[@benmeaige4306]

I’m highly certain, in a court of law, Josh would have lost that bet. A statement of preference or feelings does not usurp the verbal contract. Poor form.

[@1ntegrator]

I really liked this episode, because all decks were high power and got to shine.

[@GuillermitoR.]

I didn't know that Pablo Escobar played magic 😁 Jokes aside great game guys!

[@chrisfalconbury6862]

This will be my serotonin to get me through to Kamigawa pre release.

[@handfulloftrash]

He music is really bad, I had to give up on this about ten minutes in. It’s completely unnecessary and flat out annoying, at the very least turn it down 50%

[@plain6677]

That moustache. Oh

[@CriticoDeNo0bs]

Jesus Christ, I'm early

[@uriahatkinson2103]

Then Jordan comes off the top rope and kills josh ..what a game ..check the tape lol

[@MinecraftSeedsNet]

okay, hot take here on the bet situation: It's clear and on record that josh said he wouldn't kill the predator. That was what the bet was about. He clearly owes Jordan 50 bucks. Him saying later that it isn't his preference doesn't somehow revoke the former statement, those don't even contradict each other. But: in terms of game deals, I would argue that this exchange doesn't actually qualify as a deal made between them. Jordan asked Josh a question (will you not kill it if I dont attack you), and josh answered. That is not the same as saying "let's make a deal, I don't attack you and you don't kill my thing". It's just a statement about what he will do. So in that scenario, Jordan didn't break any deal by attacking josh with the predator, because there was no deal made. Josh would't have broken any deal killing the Predator, since there was no deal made. However, killing the Predator without Jordan attacking him would absoluteley make him a liar, because he said he wouldn't. But not a deal breaker. Whichever is wose is up to you to decide.

[@AFzizou]

Force of vigor blowing Ebony fly instead of Rhystic study or Nettlecyst... That's a questionable move right there

[@matthewdawe1439]

Force of vigor should have hit Rhystic Study. Bad threat assessment even if it felt good

[@JordanPridgen]

I was blinded by wanting to crack back at Josh. I think throwing off the FoV was my biggest misplay of the game there. I really should have just held onto it.

[@CraftySloth]

Spoilers below! . . . . . . Thank you for allowing me to win the bet that forces my husband to give the dog a bath. (At 32 minutes we placed a bet on whether Josh would be out next or not. As a Prosper player, my husband didn't think Josh would be out next.) Thanks for the great game, everyone!

[@mfitkin]

Show name seems to make KZbin recommend AliasV’s now gameplay show elder dragon hijinks, nice cross promotion!

[@dillongause7528]

Josh not playing blue feels wierd

[@gabebailey3525]

I would love to see a Pauper Commander game played on Extra Turns

[@stevenness9135]

I have a loaded aether Flux reservoir on the table. Don't swing at me or do anything during your turn and at your end step I'll blow up your steel hellkite. You have such a large audience it would be really nice if you could show your audience how to play good magic instead of scripted games where you make horrible plays

[@guerrillagorilla6537]

Bro, you said you weren’t gonna kill it. Adding afterwards that it’s not your preference, and claiming that somehow is your final statement, squirrelly and contemptible. For shame!

[@Death_by_Tech]

“people don’t change” “that’s true” yeesh, getting existential on extra turns today

[@gethan3189]

It was just Jordan's preference not to attack Josh

[@alexanderforbes1452]

If I were Jordan I would have understood what Josh said as saying he wasn't gonna kill it. That being said, I also understand Josh not seeing it that way. In his mind saying "it's not my preference to kill it" was clarification for his first statement which was that he wouldn't kill it. But they were two separate statements, and my understanding was that the second was an explanation of the first and not an amendment. It's just one of those things where the communication was not understood the same way by the two parties.

[@michaelgierusz5754]

Well he first answers with "yes" so he did say he wouldn't destroy it if he didn't attack him.

[@categorygrp]

Maybe I just don’t like Josh but that seemed like him going back on a deal. He was asking so it was set in stone, and Josh agreed. Jordan attacked after when Josh implied his deal wasn’t a real one and, being that there never was a deal and Josh simply chose not to destroy it, he was free to swing it at Josh.

[@michaelgierusz5754]

@@categorygrp So Josh said "yes" but the deal was "will you not kill it if I don't attack you with it?" Jordan attacked him with it so it was moot lol Josh technically backed out of the deal and Jordan was the first to act on the deal not happening.

[@Leviathan894]

@@michaelgierusz5754 Josh was ready to strike with the information that Jordan would make a bunch of saprolings, not when he went to attack him...which I'm assuming is why people might be bothered by the way things developed. At least it's why it bothered me.

[@michaelgierusz5754]

@@Leviathan894 Which is what I said lol

[@K9affirmative]

Will you not kill it? Josh: Yeah! *five minutes later Josh: that was out of context!

[@andrewgoulding6763]

Big co-host shoes to fill of course but great work Jordan!

[@wilfulbuckle13]

They make a video complaining about the speed of magic then put this out. Kinda ironic huh?

[@Zackeus1992]

Breaks the Ebony Fly over the Rhystic Study. Reeeeeaaaally casual game.

[@zaghilol]

? Casual players waits for Rhystic to resolve and then flash out stuff? Sorry, I really don't understand this comment.

[@Zackeus1992]

@@zaghilol casual players are more prominently swayed by 'you broke my stuff so now I break your toys', as opposed to targetting the bare bones best threat.

[@zaghilol]

@@Zackeus1992 not sure I get this right, but as a casual player myself, I would flash an Ebondeath with Rhystic on the stack to avoid accidental card draw. I understand the "eye for an eye" argument but I've met a fair amount of players that aren't 5 y.o. and that thinking kinda crumbles.

[@Zackeus1992]

@@zaghilol Craig flashes Ebondeth in properly. And that's great. Then, when Jordan has the ability to break Rhystic Study, with a card that breaks *Two* enchantment/artifacts, he breaks two mana rocks that Josh has. I understand some revenge, but he tunnel visions so terribly and breaks a Ebony Fly over Rhystic Study. Those two cards aren't even in the same Bracket of power level. One is a mana rock for colorless that comes in tapped. One is universally known and, throughout the game draws waaaay too many cards. But Jordan breaks the Fly and it isn't spoken about. I assume that the guys chose to have a casual game and accept the playful 'haha, you got me back on that one'. Even when it's *objectively* the wrong play. Similar to when the concordant crossroads bites him because he doesn't remember the haste is on all creatures. A lot of tunnel vision. Now, again, not hating on the guys, but it would be appropriate to say they aren't playing optimally, or competitively. They are playing *Casually*. The ebondeth was never the point of my post, but sure. Good timing on that. The fact that there was no swaying his targetting, or even mentioning 'you should probably kill Rhystic Study instead' was a terrible play that makes it exceedingly obvious that it is casual.

[@Temperans]

@@Zackeus1992 He breaks Josh's mana rocks because Josh is the biggest threat. So what if another player has Rystic Studies when the player after you has a billion mana to play whatever they want? If Josh's mana was not cut he would had won that game by getting to play the reservoir sooner and using more extort triggers.

[@faerie7dragon]

Craig and the God-Pharaoh? Supervillains Unite!

[@atingley0913]

Whoa whoa whoa. Jordan trying to guilt Josh about their deal "if I don't attack you you won't kill it". And then after Josh DIDN'T kill it HE broke the deal? Not cool at all.

[@victorcarrillo2151]

Everyone is arguing about josh and jordan deal, i believe if josh knew those hasty saprolings where coming at him this turn he will definitely keep his posture and destroy the apex. He didn’t played wrong though, the flyer was more of a threat to him in that moment.

[@valkopuhelin2581]

Yes, Jordan sequenced his plays correctly and went for the deal that would benefit him the most.

[@IcenhardMtgO]

Wtf this oloro drew 30 extra cards and did nothing... hahahahahahaahahahahah

[@alextrollming6588]

Gaurav was able to kill josh in response to aetherflux with the activation of the bolas citadel

[@Natedogg2]

He only had 9 nonland permanents to sacrifice, and needed 10.

[@merandahill5274]

Concordant Crossroads. One of my favorite green “gotcha” cards. Just needs to be in every green deck that’s creature heavy. Josh just said in that last podcast that haste was underrated lol…irony.

[@GunplaSpot]

What an episode! You guys should on the table more often 🔥 “This guys has a family” phrase is bomb

[@eluherrahaz1165]

Man that nemata artwork is out of this world! We don't get art's like this anymore 😪

[@Dragynstone1202]

I think Jordan actually broke the deal. Josh tried to wriggle out of it, he definitely agreed, full stop, not to kill the apex for not attacking him with it. In the end, though, he didn't kill it after all, and Jordan attacked him with it. That makes Jordan the deal breaker.

[@Waterb0y01]

I feel like it is not fair to hold Jordan to the deal at that point. Josh made it clear that the deal was not valid, even though Jordan felt it was. At that point, what is Jordan supposed to do? If he keeps his end of the deal, but Josh doesn't, that is just stupid play on Jordan's part.

[@Dragynstone1202]

@@Waterb0y01 but josh DID keep his end, he never killed the apex. I think Josh's excuse for why he wasn't breaking it was wrong...he said "I won't kill it" then "it's not my preference to" which after he's already said he won't doesn't matter. Much like his weird "out of context" argument. It doesn't matter what his preference is, he said he wouldn't do it.

[@helderboymh]

Yes ... They say so at the end of the video

[@Dragynstone1202]

@@helderboymh yeah but who waits until the end of a video to post a comment?!?

[@helderboymh]

@@Dragynstone1202 clearly not you ;)

[@EricHeid]

Josh shouldn't have counted his artifacts/enchantments for the dockside at around 24:00. It only counts opponents, so he should have gotten 7 treasures, not 10

[@helderboymh]

He say he ends up with 10 total that's 7 + 3 he already had.

[@Viorhex]

Can i play with a different commander? Like crimson vow as my deck and dina as my commander? Is it legal? Can i play it like that?

[@helderboymh]

Asking as all the cards in your deck have the same color identity as your commander you can play any commander + deck combination.

[@jademonolith]

Nice. Played against a very similar Prosper deck earlier today. What a pleasant surprise.

[@dukethehero4907]

Do they not shuffle their deck's on camera? Make it look like cheating when they are supposed to shuffle after they get a card.

[@helderboymh]

Yes, ofcourse. It would be very boring to stop every other turn for 30 sec watching someone shuffle.

[@dant1386]

Did he just discard a swan song?????? Why??????

[@zaghilol]

Great game, this episode was awesome! Really liked that Azoret's Undying Fury.

[@NimbleSoulThief]

A note about Cascade: When multiple instances of Cascade trigger, each is resolved separately. Technically, Jordan should have put his Forest on the bottom of the library as a part of resolving the first instance of Cascade.

[@elil7945]

It’s kinda funny, I’ve experienced myself, the precon decks themselves are absolutely awful, but the commanders, such as prosper are crazy good

[@thomasgaillard6713]

With a little bit tweaking, Planar Portal (the Prosper precon) is pretty good. Nowhere near highpower, obviously, but you can win games with it.

[@MTGJanktown]

Jordan: will you not kill it if I don’t attack you with it? Josh: yeah, I have to deal with ebondeath - So as far as I’m concerned, Josh already said he wouldn’t. But then Jordan attacked him anyway, so Josh held up his end of the bargain, Jordan didn’t. $50 went to the right guy 😂

[@nebulousram674]

Once the tape rewound and you were out of the "he said I said woods" you should have specified the part where not killing the hydra meant the saplings weren't coming out to kill you.

[@urdeadnub5]

How cool is Pablo Escobar in person?

[@lelandwhitehead56]

Josh- you don’t have to reveal the card exiled with Prosper.

[@helderboymh]

406.3. Exiled cards are, by default, kept face up and may be examined by any player at any time.

[@jacobrutzke691]

Wait wasn't Craig right though?

[@nycstreetpoet]

Ironically, if I’m correct, Craig’s sleeves have moon like the Thomas Cole painting “The Oxbow,” except “dragonized,” which as far as I know is only available from Dragon Shield, as part of their “brushed art series.” (As it happens, those are excellent sleeves.)

[@ROMANTIKILLER2]

Wow, I didn't expect that vintage conclusion to the game!

[@kenzostaelens1688]

i so want you guys to play a game where the commanders are made by yourselves (as in, not in official MTG) with a deck built around those (obviously this would be with official cards)

[@helderboymh]

Why, completely goes against what commander is, takes extra work, opens a can of worms with people claiming ... Made their commander to strong. It's completely unrelatable for the viewer as they'll never play with that commander. There are so many commanders with so many different themes that any sort of deck you want to build there is probably a commander for. It would be purely for the sake of the gimmick that they made there own commanders, it doesn't improve the gameplay. And comes with many negatives It's doing something for the sake of doing it, not because it improves anything.

[@kenzostaelens1688]

@@helderboymh sure, you might be right, but people can have their own op oppinions, mine's that i want to see it, besides, it's not like i'm forcing them to

[@helderboymh]

@@kenzostaelens1688 I'm not saying anything about that. I'm just giving my opinion about your opinion. :)

[@majstermythjohn2539]

Always destroy rhystic!

[@BigDrew49]

Gaurav is an absolute monster tapping counter-clockwise

[@keithmpire]

The music is way too loud, my dudes. You don't really need music at all for Extra Turns, so it should be a lot easier to tune out than it is.

[@tamriilin]

josh lost the bet on a technicality but it's pretty clear that what he meant by "i won't kill it" is "i don't have any plans at the moment to kill it because it isn't beneficial" subtext is for cowards, i guess, but so is winning a personal bet on a technicality.

[@lgriff94]

This was super fun to watch. Y'all (obviously) have great chemistry. Thanks for the quality content.

[@TheOutcastJacobWolf]

"I think I have a chance of surviving Craig's turn." Famous last words. When you have a chance to kill someone whose playing big nasty dragons, you kill them. Enough said.

[@winguard007]

It feels wrong to hear Josh play Dockside Extortionist without hearing "Haha, pay up!"

[@freeze2270]

At 33:55 Josh should have only gained 2 life because extort gains you life equal to the life lost by your opponents.

[@galaxygamingxd1508]

6.9k likes, Noice!

[@madinsomniac5765]

Leeeerooooy jeeeenkins

[@JakeYoloxD]

Apex Devastator is actually ridiculous Cascade Cascade Cascade Cascade LOL

[@nateperkins9860]

As somebody who's first commander deck I built was Oloro seeing him makes me happy.

[@elchronovitch1629]

26:04 Wasn't Josh supposed to gain 5 life from Aetherflux after casting the Crackle with Power? Then he casts Porcuparrot and only gains 5 when he should have gained 6. I am confused why he didn't. Is there a trigger I am missing?

[@nebulousram674]

I'd love to support you guys. If for no other reason I'd like to support you guys just to say I like everything your doing more than IHYD. You all have made 97 episodes dated recently or before 1 year ago mark. That is 194 dollars of support for discord benefits, early access, and I'm not even on twitter/instagram. That is $194 to support probably my favorite show youtube. My wow sub costs $155.88 for the year. About the same rates with square enix and FFXIV for all those FFXIV fans. I think think it is safe your not providing anything equivocal to a billion dollar gaming company. Yet your rates are higher. I love the Command Zones show. I don't care for the talk show. I'm too controversial and find sometimes I disagree vehemently about the advocacy for what changes should be made. The game play, studio feel, and the cast is top notch. However, I can't justify paying $182 when Square and Blizzard. In FFXIV and WoW provide multiple I have discord communities and their population is so large I can find people like me. I can't justify your rates or what is being provided as a patreon. I wish it was a monthly fee that was smaller than a Blizzard sub. I between notepad, your video page, and excel these were the numbers I found.

[@ALDee9821]

For oloro, 32:05 why you didn't play land tax for the 10th card for 2nd ability of bolas citadel if someone will kill you like aether reservoir. For lose 10life each opponent. For even results. If Josh pay 50life,then 6life remaining. Then before damage trigger bolas citadel 2nd ability to lose 10life even if he's only 6life remaining.

[@Alphadog2064]

Love me some choloro

[@nightwingrising5863]

It's a Turrask!!!

[@jholls]

Watch the REWIND and Josh stated “ not my preference” and glanced over at Gaurav .Josh is too good of a player to not know why he’s saying what at which time. I’m on Jordan’s side in this deal, but also how many times has he played against Josh ??? There was a whole episode on Politics… that Jordan probably helped write or edit ! He should know Josh’s tricks… 🤣🤣. Great game all around 🙌

[@felipeguidolin1055]

Craig vs Josh vs Garauv vs Pablo Escobar

[@felipeguidolin1055]

It's weird to see Escobar playing green... I always saw him as a mono White kinda guy

[@mattw769]

Fixed! Fixed! MtG Arena is completely fixed!...Some players are just sacrificial Acolytes for anyone making them more money. I've played for over 20 years and can't win with net decks in this game..yeah okay