Reap the Tides Upgrade | 10 Cards to Replace for Under $20 [Commander Legends Precon Deck]

[@hugovandijk2635]

Isnt beast within already in the deck?

[@JakeandJoelareMagic]

Yes it is - for some reason I didn't even catch that until now. I appreciate you pointing that out; I don't know if I missed it or I was working off the incorrect list. I would run Sawtusk Demolisher in that slot.

[@hugovandijk2635]

@@JakeandJoelareMagic thanks!

[@kylesavage4525]

He knew it he was just implying in a very subtle way to put a second one in the deck cause it's that good. Just don't cast it if u have already cast another one before. And act surprised if they somehow find out. That's what i do :)

[@johnervin8830]

@@JakeandJoelareMagic but why have only one mutate in the deck.

[@AKRenlor]

What would be a card then to put in for Meteor Golem?

[@OMAR078]

Verdant Sun's Avatar -> Arixmethes, Slumbering Isle Retreat to Kazandu -> Kiora, Behemoth Beckoner Peel from Reality -> Reality Shift Into the Roil -> Plasm Capture Explore -> Courser of Kruphix Sphinx of Uthuun -> Charix, the Raging Isle Nezahal, Primal Tide -> Tatyova, Benthic Druid Meteor Golem -> Beast Within (already in the deck) Sporemound -> Serpent of Yawning Depths Harmonize -> Garruk's Uprising

[@okbro1324]

This was super useful thank you.

[@playmaditachi]

Thank you

[@kylemccool1037]

I love this kind of video. Taking a pre-con and upgrading it with a budget is really more my speed since I am only just starting to dip my toes into building Commander decks.

[@JakeandJoelareMagic]

Perfect! This is exactly why I wanted to make a video like this. Thanks for watching!

[@chrishusted9296]

Retreat from coralhelm and sakura tribe scout are an infinite land drop combo with the 3 bounce lands the deck has. And the 2 are like $1 to add in. There's also skyshroud ranger and walking atlas who can do the sakura job too.

[@Badassest]

Just bought this precon- awesome right out of the box, added thassa deep dwelling and she really adds to it😁, adding charrix, yawning depths, tatyova, zegana, simic ascendancy, imoti, thyrx, altered ego, kiora BB, sea-dasher octo, uro, thing in the ice, ominous seas, nadir kraken, shark typhoon and a few others- i would like arixmethes.

[@derekludwig3945]

Since I don't see this anywhere else... Cuts: Verdant Sun's Avatar Retreat to Kazandu Peel from Reality Into the Roil Explore Sphinx of Uthuun Nezahal, Primal Tide Meteor Golem Sporemound Harmonize Adds: Arixmethes, Slumbering Isle Kiora, Behemoth Beckoner Reality Shift Plasm Capture Courser of Kruphix Charix, the Raging Isle Tatyova, Benthic Druid Beast Within [Erroneous add; already in deck. J&JaM suggest Sawtusk Demolisher in comments.] Serpent of Yawning Depths Garruk's Uprising Additional cards to consider: Nadir Kraken Stormsurge Kraken Breaching Leviathan

[@diegomexa6489]

I love your video for a person who is still a novice commander to show what to get out of the deck and what replacement really helps a lot. Thanks a lot

[@JakeandJoelareMagic]

Thats exactly my goal, great to hear! Thanks for watching 👀 🙂

[@bumboclat]

brilliant, you reduce cost, add synergies and even keep the theme. thanks from a beginner

[@MutualZebra0123]

I got this precon (without upgrades) for my sons 8 year birthday. He plays magic, but we aren't native english speakers, so he has trouble to know the details of all cards. He's smart and have a good memory but it's a little harder for him to play commander because it's more cards for him to understand. He plays well once he knows the decks he uses. I'm sometimes surprised how smart he is when he tells me potential creatures i could attack with, and when i do, he has a counter move already planned.

[@bumboclat]

never heard of an 8yo playing MTG. you raised a smart kid, congratulations, well done

[@nickd6303]

It's surprising to me that Tatyova wasn't already included.

[@JakeandJoelareMagic]

Yeah, it was interesting. Not that expensive of an addition though!

[@Wolfgar-jx5kl]

Great content as always . I would love to see you guys take on building a budget commander deck from scratch vs a modified store bought pre built one . Now that would be a cool video . Pros and cons of both .

[@JakeandJoelareMagic]

Noted! Cool idea - I'll look into it!

[@alanstern6930]

A very useful upgrade list. Thanks Although I don't agree with removing Nezahaul Other upgrades (not necessarily budget): Concordant crossroads/thousand year elixer-because these big boys need to beat face Shadowspear-traple life link. Trample with these beaters just makes sense. Heroic intervention-I want to keep my big boys and this deck is going to look scary once it starts going. Triumph of the hoards. This deck wants to win via combat damage so let's help that win con

[@JakeandJoelareMagic]

Those are great additions!

[@albertastro3761]

I just purchased this Commander set, and ran it against vampire and elemental decks. Out of the gate, it feels vulnerable as the land ramps up. But, does seem cool when the commander, krakens, and other get out on the board. These upgrade suggestions seem to help, thanks!

[@onlygalactic1744]

You should do the other precon. It looks very good as well. I think it will need more expensive ypgrades like swords but still a good deck

[@JakeandJoelareMagic]

You should keep your eye out for tomorrow's upload... ;)

[@FroggyQC23]

Thanks for this great guide! I just started playing MTG and Reap the Tides is my first commander deck. Those are great suggestions! I also swapped Simic Guildgate which is a blue/green land that doesn't bring anything else with Tanglepool Bridge, which has indestructable. You can then use Sawtusk Demolisher on your own land to create 3/3 beasts tokens.

[@jeffnorris211]

Hey man GG on mtgo today. I was the player playing vial smasher and ludevic. Hope to Catch you on there again!

[@JakeandJoelareMagic]

Thanks! You too!

[@ronstarbuck3478]

Excellent video. Thank you. I really like and appreciate that you kept the theme of big sea monsters. Keeps the deck fun and interesting

[@maxbenjamin7212]

If you can, I recommend getting all 3 Kioras for a deck like this. Not only is it awesome thematically, but they also have some great synergy across the board

[@JakeandJoelareMagic]

Yeah! Not a bad idea

[@somersetbassett4580]

I have a Sleeping Isle, sea monster tribal deck with a Kiora theme. Fun deck, good synergy 👍

[@mementomori1320]

I’m planning on removing the eldrazi octopus in favor of the breaching leviathan because I want the octopus in my eldrazi deck

[@3103montekev]

picked up a copy and tweeked it with more landfall, im excited for this one..

[@ZagrasNixillis]

I thought I optimized my RTT deck, but thank you for your suggestions. I'm definitely going to include Gariks uprising.

[@jonathandoherty9082]

I built an amazing Arixmethes Sea monster tribal deck and most these upgrades are in that deck. My plan is to get this deck, put Aesi in Arixmethes then use the rest of the cards in the deck to help upgrade my other decks. But I do love the fact they made a sea monster tribal precon. Definitely my favorite tribe, and an awesome new commander/sea monster

[@greekPharaoh666]

I have an arixmethes deck aswell. Heres my decklist, tho i havent yet updateted it. Any feedback would be welcome. aetherhub.com/Deck/Edit/341686

[@JakeandJoelareMagic]

Oh yeah, this deck is definitely your friend then. Though it sounds like you probably already have the cards for it, you might just want to pick up a copy of Aesi.

[@JakeandJoelareMagic]

your list looks really good, I like how it's got a fairly low curve and then it tops out hard. nice!

[@jonathandoherty9082]

@@JakeandJoelareMagic heres my list with the addition of Brinelin, Aesi, and Rejuvenating Springs (which i still need to add. Currently Elder deep fiend, striped river winder and temple of the false God are in their place) [COMMANDER] 1 Arixmethes, Slumbering Isle [PLANESWALKERS] 1 Kiora, Behemoth Beckoner [CREATURES] 1 Beastcaller Savant 1 Coiling Oracle 1 Drover of the Mighty 1 Kiora's Follower 1 Lotus Cobra 1 Nimbus Swimmer 1 Quirion Elves 1 Sakura-Tribe Elder 1 Thing in the Ice // Awoken Horror 1 Fierce Empath 1 Gyre Engineer 1 Charix, the Raging Isle 1 Murkfiend Liege 1 Stormsurge Kraken 1 Aesi, Tyrant of Gyre Strait 1 Archetype of Imagination 1 Serpent of Yawning Depths 1 Shipbreaker Kraken 1 Aethersquall Ancient 1 Kraken of the Straits 1 Scourge of Fleets 1 Simic Sky Swallower 1 Tromokratis 1 Brinelin, the Moon Kraken 1 Lorthos, the Tidemaker 1 Slinn Voda, the Rising Deep 1 Stormtide Leviathan 1 Tidal Kraken 1 Trench Gorger 1 Breaching Leviathan 1 Grozoth 1 Inkwell Leviathan 1 Deep-Sea Kraken [ARTIFACTS] 1 Skullclamp 1 Sol Ring 1 Wayfarer's Bauble 1 Kefnet's Monument 1 Rhonas's Monument 1 Whispersilk Cloak [INSTANTS] 1 Back to Nature 1 Growth Spiral 1 Heroic Intervention 1 Pull from Tomorrow 1 Unwind 1 Engulf the Shore 1 Rewind [SORCERIES] 1 Broken Bond 1 Displacement Wave 1 Explore 1 Nature's Lore 1 Genesis Wave 1 Kodama's Reach 1 Whelming Wave 1 Traverse the Outlands 1 Rishkar's Expertise [ENCHANTMENTS] 1 Quest for Ula's Temple 1 Utopia Sprawl 1 Fertile Ground 1 Freed from the Real 1 Garruk's Uprising 1 Pemmin's Aura [LANDS] 1 Botanical Sanctum 1 Breeding Pool 1 Castle Garenbrig 1 Command Tower 1 Fabled Passage 1 Flooded Grove 8 Forest 1 Hinterland Harbor 14 Island 1 Mosswort Bridge 1 Myriad Landscape 1 Rejuvenating Springs 1 Reliquary Tower 1 Rogue's Passage 1 Thespian's Stage 1 Waterlogged Grove 1 Yavimaya Coast

[@WomenRespecter9000]

I just bought this deck! Thanks for the upgrade recommendations, I'll be getting several of them.

[@Fighting_irish493]

I actually love this precon deck a lot pretty good value for the money easily upgradable and I love the large sea creature theme it reminds me of a certain serpent that came out in m10 many years ago that I loved playing only now years later there is better support for the deck unfortunately I’m not really a fan of the other precon I wish they gave more support because the reap the tides deck is clearly a better deck out of the box and that is because it can ramp and draw a ton of cards with just your commander not including the other cards in the deck and unfortunately white and red aren’t allowed to ramp or draw cards lol

[@claygillman9351]

Thanks Joel. I just decided to buy my first EDH deck. I pre-ordered both of the new pre-built decks. I have 6 of the cards that you suggested, and I just bought the other 4, so that will be a good start. I will let you know if i find any other improvements to the deck. :-)

[@JakeandJoelareMagic]

Clay, that's awesome! Yeah, swing by a live stream sometime and let me know how it's going!

[@Badassest]

Just got to see the power of the anowon precon, it was fun to battle with and against! It will be interesting to see this serpent precon in battle😁

[@JakeandJoelareMagic]

Love it! Good to see you

[@ScrattleGG]

Super cool that you keep the theme! I've read a bit around and everyone starts to put in random shit that makes the deck better no doubt but doesn't fit the theme at all. Really love this.

[@JakeandJoelareMagic]

Yeah! I feel like the designers had an idea in mind, they were just somewhat restricted either by complexity of cards or budget - so I try to lean in to their thought process. Thank you for noticing!

[@ScrattleGG]

@@JakeandJoelareMagic I super appreciate it

[@lucysmith6538]

interesting thoughts. i bought this deck so i could be taught how to play and now i've upgraded it (it's probably no where near the precon now) and instead of going down the creature type synergy route, i went for the landfall theme. still got a bunch of the big creatures in there though

[@jonathansimon67]

Swapping nezahal ; what a mistake... Good against jin gitaxias, card avantage and can protect itself with awsome stats... It s a powerhouse

[@JakeandJoelareMagic]

that's fair! I even said it's a really good card. I just think you could lean harder toward the "sea monster" tribe - I wish Nez was a leviathan dinosaur or something...

[@jonathansimon67]

@@JakeandJoelareMagic think it s just also good with the 2 cards that make you draw with creature with power4 or greater. I just think you should keep it and remove another card. Always happy with my nezahal on the board 😁

[@jonathansimon67]

@@JakeandJoelareMagic otherwise great content of course.

[@TheGirthiestSausage]

It’s not the great and a lot of cards can counter Jin gitaxias there’s reliquary tower thought vessel kruphix spellbook etc

[@Chris-qq2cu]

Really well done! Definitely like the double beast within idea (kidding). Always love these types of vids! Keep growing the channel you guys rock

[@PawzBrownMTG]

Great video like those upgrades they would be more cohesive

[@JakeandJoelareMagic]

Thanks PB

[@greekPharaoh666]

I have an arixmethes deck with a sushi/kiora flavor were i'll l be slipping Aesi in! So hyped about this card, becouse it's one of my favourite decks and i love updating it with new sea monsters

[@JakeandJoelareMagic]

Definitely an include in that strategy. Watch out for my Three Ways to Build Aesi soon!

[@jarekhartwell6235]

I LOVE AESI! He is one of my favorite simic commanders (and I love simic) he is a jack of all trades commander he has big stats he draws cards he ramps he does literally everything

[@metroplexgrimlock7089]

I want to take out some cards but add something you didn't include, Archetype of Imagination. I want to add her because, for whatever reason, they put Stormtide Leviathan into the deck. Either that or entirely remove Stormtide because as soon as he enters only 5 cards are usable for attack. But with Imagination, oppopponents loose, and can't gain, flying so I can just power through and attack. And I want to add Kiora crashing wave instead of her war of the spark version

[@brianmader7206]

Thanks for the great content! Was keeping my eye out for this one!

[@JakeandJoelareMagic]

Thanks, Brian!

[@matthew_thefallen]

i have a simic landfall deck with Tatyova as a commander and then a monoblue sea monsters deck with Nezahal as a commander. I'll defenitely mix them both in this one haha the ULTIMATE commander deck.

[@dudcam405]

Great video! As a new player, this was very clear and beneficial compared to other vids that sound like a foreign language, thanks.

[@JakeandJoelareMagic]

Thanks for watching, that is the goal! Where did you pick up your deck, if you don't mind me asking?

[@Dalfort73]

Loved watching this and the other Upgrade video, I'm getting both when they are released and I am just going through my collection to see what other Kraken, Octopuses, Lev's or Serpents I can find to put in it. So far Deep-Sea Kraken from Mind vs Might 7UUU 9/9 Kraken 2U Suspend 9 is an option. I also have a Thing in the Ice that may worth it too ($4-5 card though)

[@JakeandJoelareMagic]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@davecharland5707]

I've put in Archetype of Imagination and Wonder in just to give opponents less of a chance to block. Also added about 5-6 more counter spell cards to help keep Aesi out. I've played with him constantly being destroyed or removed and it slows it down drastically.

[@JakeandJoelareMagic]

I love archetype of imagination

[@Kuazzy]

Great video man, well explained. Im just getting into magic and just got this deck, played my buddy who has thousands worth of cards and got my ass handed to me lol. Gonna try out this build and maybe some other upgrades as well

[@Bolshevik1973]

Amazing video. Just followed all your suggestions and this deck works beautifully. Question though: what would you take out to add Nadir Kraken, Stormsurge Kraken, and Breaching Leviathan?

[@DaveSwitch7]

It is sad that the spells does not synergies with crabs and whales and other sea monsters. Great upgrade! You got yourself a follower

[@JakeandJoelareMagic]

Thank you!!

[@matthewhall3654]

Super great video with excellent recommendations! Thank you again for everything!

[@dedpoptart]

Nezahal unlimited hand size comes in very HANDy with all that card draw. Just saying

[@marknoriega7002]

Nice video...just subscribed and I like the upgrades...now Im thinking of getting this deck...hahah

[@Lowlight23]

Thank you for the great video! I love using these to see what I have that can complement and then order some very good upgrades. Quick question: How do you think Shapeshifter type will do with the Slinn Voda enter battlefield board wipe except Merfolk, Kraken, Leviathan, Octopus, and Serpents?

[@JakeandJoelareMagic]

Low Light, thank you for the positive vibes! Shapeshifters are all creature types so they'll be affected by anything that affects specific creature types

[@alpal8319]

What are your thoughts about adding lurking predators to this deck?

[@JakeandJoelareMagic]

great card. normally I'd say it's pretty expensive for a creature deck to not have an ETB on it, but this deck ramps, so you're good.

[@txdarkknight]

Is there a list of the cards he swapped on a site somewhere or do I need to re watch and just write it all down?

[@drakegrandx5914]

"Curse of the swine" could be a really great card in this deck, in my opinion.

[@CaptainNico350]

I just got this deck and I like your additions, I want to introduce Koma cosmos serpent into the deck. Where do you think it should go? As the commander and have Aesi in the 99? Or put Koma in the 99 and keep Aesi as the commander? What do.you think?

[@JakeandJoelareMagic]

I like both in either slot. It depends on what effect you want more often - ramp and cards or a creature that's super bomb. I'd lean toward aesi as the commander for ramp and cards

[@GSYSWTF]

Beast within is already in the deck

[@Cancer8899]

Is it possible to make this commander 100 card to an brawl deck with fewer than 100 cards, so it can be shuffled easier.???

[@tarnish1431]

Hey you should say that you have a subscriber goal, and it will give ppl more incentive to subscribe. Love the vid. ♥️ y’all give great content for the new product coming out. Thank you for that.

[@JakeandJoelareMagic]

Thank you for watching!

[@unscrambeldegg374]

Because you added so much more blue cards in replacement of some greens, should I remove a couple forests and add some more islands?

[@devenloomis3240]

I'm completely new to magic, but I DEFINITELY feel there isn't enough ramp cards straight outta the box. Am I wrong for thinking so? It takes till like turn 3 to 5 before I can even get my first creature on the field

[@astroidyeti2169]

I would add the face commander in the 99 and pick up koma to use as the commander

[@flavioneto1321]

So... Who is better for this kind of deck (Sea Creatures "tribal")? Arixmethis or Aesi?

[@JakeandJoelareMagic]

I like Aesi because I like the idea of a card draw engine out of the command zone

[@flavioneto1321]

@@JakeandJoelareMagic But Arixmethes is a ramp right at the start of the match, so the doubt. The video was very good, I bought both decks and was looking for ways to improve.

[@theoverfiend8701]

Hi boss, what would you take out to get them last 3 cards in?

[@bobbyz5443]

The 1st video with my name in the Patreon opening credits

[@Schatjesdief]

I've got a (noob) question here, does Aesi's ability's also work in the commander zone? Or only if it's on the battlefield in play? Cool video! I have this deck and thinking to swap those cards out for your recommended cards 😉

[@JakeandJoelareMagic]

Only when it's on the battlefield!

[@Schatjesdief]

@@JakeandJoelareMagic Cool, thanks! I wasn't sure. Thanks for your reply! :-)

[@darkhorseman900]

What are some other cards that can come out of the deck. That is not that useful either.

[@samrose5780]

Just got reap the tide as my first deck! Might have cheated a little getting Koma, cosmos serpent today 🤓

[@mylesalger9613]

Where do you get the cards from because some are not on Amazon. Do you go to a magic the gathering store?

[@frankostern624]

Great video!

[@xrat3d12thman4]

Yes I just got the box and first time player

[@JakeandJoelareMagic]

Thanks for checking out the channel.

[@coltenmiller8630]

i have a card that allows all creatures to gain flying i believe it would be a great card to add to this deck

[@JakeandJoelareMagic]

All of your creatures having flying sounds very strong in this deck

[@nardi_7740]

well if you're looking at this today, serpent of yawning depths is currently $18 cad

[@tomjones1141]

My reap the tide I edited is my favorite deck so far

[@BeWrong666]

Sharktocrab was a big miss.

[@JakeandJoelareMagic]

Meaning you would cut that one?

[@theoverfiend8701]

Off to a good start, first card is £3.50 to £5 pounds and sold out on every site in uk 👍🏻😖 good times....

[@JakeandJoelareMagic]

Sorry to hear that.. this budget upgrade was from last year so I'm sure a lot of the prices have changed >

[@theoverfiend8701]

Some are very pricey now, being in the uk don't help. I bet there are a lot more second hand cards floating around in USA. Great video boss 👍🏻

[@tylerlockhart4069]

Swap meteor golem for beast within and have two beast within in the deck...

[@JakeandJoelareMagic]

Check that top comment

[@tylerlockhart4069]

@@JakeandJoelareMagic I did after I commented! My bad!

[@JakeandJoelareMagic]

@@tylerlockhart4069 no worries man!

[@teddy7799wastaken]

Love the vid

[@maxloggins2930]

Beast within is already in deck

[@markozofarr]

#1 the commander

[@Pixel165]

beast within already in decklist lol

[@willanderson9688]

Thanks for the tips nerd

[@jessicagross5898]

Every time someone runs courser of kruphix in their deck, I cringe a bit inside.

[@chenbro1000]

why?

[@samfisher9079]

Arixmethes one mana

[@bobdole8830]

"pretty good" is an overstatement. It's thesecond worst precon commander deck out there. It mostly consists of bulk and can't even compete against the better precons let alone a proper Commander deck

[@dragon_pro69420]

Am I first?

[@JakeandJoelareMagic]

You are. A gold medal has been awarded.

[@dragon_pro69420]

@@JakeandJoelareMagic Neat

[@benmeaige4306]

Truly one for the scrapbook.