Stop Worshiping Special Forces Influencers

[@jakezweig]

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[@Fkku-r6d]

Dont see ww2 guys talking this stupid shit.

[@aqualane1]

All these suckers fought for Israel. Certainly not protecting Americas border.

[@droman608]

That may be the quintessential factor they seek. Not the best person but the right person. I wouldn’t mind taking a life *in self defense* although to be the aggressor and hope to come out ok? Wetwork. A Plumber’s job, a nightmare for me. I probably would’ve been turned down at selection.

[@k1ttyF158er]

@@Fkku-r6d Well, to be fair, if they're still alive, they'd be nearly 100yrs old at this point. I imagine, if social media & "fame culture" was around back then, you'd have seen some of the same sh*t. - It's narcissism and the times we live in.

[@Tacticaldave1]

Navy SWO and SEAL? Sounds like a crock of sh*it to me.

[@jerryG-p3w]

I remember serving in the navy and realizing that just because you wear a uniform and serve your country. DOES NOT make you a good person. Most of the guys I served with were terrible people outside of the uniform and off the ship. Don’t be fooled by all the flashy posters and movies.

[@andrewmontgomery8428]

Totally relatable. I used to work in Fire and EMS. Don’t get get me wrong, we need firefighters and paramedics but a good amount of them are horrible people when they are not in a uniform. We had one medic that finally arrested for abusing her own children.

[@calvinballew5411]

I wouldn't say most. Some yes.

[@davideinstein7887]

99% of guys join for the experience. They use the, "i serve my country," as an excuse. 99% of guys joined because of hollywood propaganda, disguised as entertainment movies. They're all controlled by bankers and story tellers.

[@paulgavian90]

Plus alot of them become power wielding corrupt cops. They love violating rights

[@primeninja9]

🎯

[@keithjohnson1830]

Stop worshipping ANY influencers

[@19Cobre]

Agree, if you worshipping anyone trought a screen, that means you are lifeless.

[@frankmurph32]

Stop worshipping any human being period.

[@noahhamilton1026]

The Paul brothers are definitely being worshiped

[@keithjohnson1830]

@noahhamilton1026 yeah...that's the point of what I said

[@thebenevolentsun6575]

True. But still people forget that being a soldier is just another job. It's a really difficult one but having that job doesn't make you a good person or worthy of respect.

[@sasquatch7234]

To be a grown ass man and to fawn over another man is just ridiculous. Be your own person and enjoy life.

[@thuglifebear5256]

Having no role models at all is ridiculous. But I understand the point about the fawning.

[@ordinaryretrogamer6944]

Lots of young men have no fathers or terrible fathers and these spec ops guys are maculine and have a platform. I'd say its better than nothing.

[@seanwoods5943]

Millions wear football jerseys with other men's names on them.

[@peterbeater012]

Is that why you all like to shower together?

[@anthonyfletcher8053]

@@thuglifebear5256yeah there is a difference between role models and fawning. I definitely use special ops guys as motivation for the ‘keep on pushing’ aspect.

[@williamholden4312]

Jake says, “I would trust you with my life but not my money or my wife.” So true.

[@PermanentHigh]

Can't trust anyone with your wife.

[@user-wb7nv9ht1g]

You can trust me with your money and your wife, just not your life.

[@NigerianPrinceCallCenterLLC.]

You can only trust other very beautiful women with your wife. It works.

[@nathanmacdonald6696]

Charlie sheen says in Navy Seals “ Trust me with your life , but not your money or your wife”

[@bunnyman6321]

​@@user-wb7nv9ht1g😂😂

[@D00msdayDan-c1z]

Karl Marlantes, a Vietnam infantry officer and Navy Cross recipient once said, “Maybe if we didn’t always see ourselves as the good guys, we’d be in less wars”

[@Mark-t9l7r]

"Just let the bad guys do whatever they want." - A moron.

[@therainman7777]

That’s a catchy phrase, but what if we actually are usually the good guys? What’s the alternative? That the communists in Vietnam, or the Taliban, or al-Qaeda, or ISIS, or Putin-they’re the good guys?

[@MsTugg]

Army guy. 17 years. support guy. currently a TL for a team. deployed to the afg, levant, and horn of africa. Alll of the long tabbers i know from O6 to E5 are great team guys, and terrible humans. i recall taking a friend to a bar in Amman and a team guy saw me with her in the bar and pulled a knife on me bc he had been sleeping with her and blah blah blah. two other team guys had to hold him back so i could leave. that dude was married with 4 kids. that dude was someone i had gone on missions with. that is the most PG story i could tell about my experiences with SF.

[@sharkquisha3407]

Crazy. You got another story?

[@jakezweig]

hit me up 734 834 7944

[@vettevegas]

Entitlement.

[@BoostedPastime]

Man that's wild

[@Issacandjacob]

That was the cursed human flesh on full display. Absolutely pathetic we are

[@southeastoriginal5668]

I’m from the ghetto and you explained eloquently how gangs literally operate

[@marianotorrespico2975]

--- CORRECT . . . their personal psychology is the same; thrills for the sake of thrills.

[@Griot-Guild]

I've heard alot of gang members join the military

[@hansolo9585]

@@Griot-Guildthere’s been reports of gang tags in the Middle East since the 90’s

[@marianotorrespico2975]

@@Griot-Guild --- YES, PROVIDED THE TATTOOS ARE . . . not too obvious; but, yes, their go-getter personalities do fit the specs for a profile in militarily useful psychopathy, usually a score of less than eleven, at least for my generation of 11-bravo. I knew that I belonged in the Army.

[@DmitreJO]

National Armies are sophisticated gang/terrorists organizations 😂

[@GrabadoraIncognita]

Step one, Don’t ever “Idolize” anyone period.

[@jeffertonalive8536]

not even Michael Jordan?😢

[@GrabadoraIncognita]

@@jeffertonalive8536 R.I.P, not even MJ… but he sure can inspire you! Inspires me ever time I hit the court.

[@Himmyjewett]

​@@GrabadoraIncognitaMichael Jordan is alive?

[@therainman7777]

@@GrabadoraIncognita What do you mean RIP? Jordan’s alive. You scare me for a second, I had to google it to be sure lol

[@michaelhaydenbell]

Quit with this reductive nonsense. There is nothing wrong with looking up to people, that's how we learn and grow. You just have to ALSO learn to look up to the RIGHT people and how to properly contextualize that admiration by understanding that nobody is perfect and that sometimes people who excel at some things at an elite level sacrifice other facets of their character in the process. It's about fuckin nuance.

[@pontiacGXPfan]

This is why you shouldn't idolize anyone

[@oneman5753]

EXACTLY. The lack of ppl on this thread shows that hasn't sunk in to ppl yet, even though half of them are probably Christian and are told directly not to idolize. The effect is way worse for women 2. First thing the idolized person will do is use her body, then use her as a weapon or value extraction tool.

[@uniquechannelnames]

For real, simple fact is everyone has flaws, although some flaws are much more acceptable than others and that's what differentiates between people. But if you idolize someone you believe them to be basically god-like in their morality

[@RoninX33]

Like they say never meet your heros. They will always fall short.

[@papermind4010]

Except Christ

[@GoodBaleadaMusic]

That's all you take from this? You have no tools to feed yourself so you rely on these psychos. And the lesson you're going to learn is "don't idolize anyone". You're no different than these psychos.

[@Sam-rb1id]

"fighting terrorism ... if you still believe that ..."

[@slimefrank6317]

I noticed that to.

[@chubss808]

I mean, we are. But it's just people generally take a more self-centered isolationist approach, nobody cares that a government genocided couple hundreds of thousands of people or a tribal militia group is ethnically cleansing people of different religion, if it doesn't affect them personally.

[@-Swamp_Donkey-]

The PTSD doesn’t come from righteous actions. That happens because they know what they’re doing is wrong

[@HoodAdventures]

@@-Swamp_Donkey-that part 💯

[@ironwillauthor114]

​@@-Swamp_Donkey-i get what you are saying, but it comes from many places.

[@Lykitysplit]

I was infantry from 05-09. Some of my guys ended up becoming team guys. They got a taste of blood and couldn’t get enough. For me it was an experience. For them it was life.

[@jeda7343]

DAMN

[@ChuckHolland-i4b]

Same in the Corps. Some of our dudes couldn't wait to get deployed back to a hot zone. I never participated in any combat deployments but dang close a few times. I definitely had reservations. Luck would have it i was in the rear with gear, but I'm grateful that I never had to take a life. I'll save that for a special occasion. 😉

[@TheCastedone]

Blood lust is real. Hard to get over. Can go to Ukraine to quench your thirst.

[@BedroomBull]

youre not a real soldier. lucky you werent with me I wouldnt trust you at all.

[@WeroWero-qx4gu]

​@@BedroomBullyou mean he's not a hired murderer for oil companies 😂

[@fiddlefolk]

My dad was 101st airborne in WW2 and he explained to me a long time ago that the amount of savagery that can be unleashed from someone you perceive as a normal person can be frightening. Case in point. My dad was a welder after the war and one of the farmers that my dad welded for was the mildest, meekest guy you would ever meet. I made a remark to my dad about him and my dad said don't let that fool you. He said that guy has about 3 bronze stars with valor and a silver star from the war. He said that guy was a total savage. I couldn't wrap my head around this as a kid but now as a mid 50's guy, I totally see it!

[@peterliggett5233]

I had the same experience with a salesman I knew in the early 1970, s. Nice, sometimes funny character who got insulted and said I'd like to kill that guy and have killed before? I was surprised and he said him and his platoon in the British Army had to clear a building of SS soldiers.I said what you mean.He said go into a building and kill every soldier in sight,which they did including him in the lead. Was shocked a bit he had to kill guys up close in a building, Meaning blood and guts all over the inside of the place.He was not a big guy and basically good natured.

[@5metoo]

Great point. Ordinary people are capable of extraordinary things. But I struggle with videos such as this that say it is all on a sociopathic scale. I think that is an oversimplification of the issue. There are complex philosophical and theological issues involved, and Valhalla (though I like him very much) and the guy in this video are making absolute statements that are completely lacking in nuance or balance. That said, it is troubling that the dedication and extreme things involved in being a SOF guy does lead to divorce and broken relationships, etc. But that is a separate issue, since I don't think anyone would deny the potential effects of being in SOF on one's life. But it is another thing to say one must be sociopathic to do the things in war that must be done. And maybe the military wants too many SOF members and so they don't care if they take in actual unbalanced sociopaths. These are all fair points, but equating SOF extreme task with sociopathy is a very simplistic conclusion. It is no different than the old theological debates about lying. Was it ever permissible? Some said 'no' it was never permissible. The justifications for this view are fairly bizarre, as if giving up innocent people hidden in a basement to the Nazis to be killed would be the best thing to do. But people prone to absolutes and simplicity often say such ridiculous things. Seek people who've really wrestled with this issue philosophically and theologically, not someone doing bad bro philosophy like we have here. Neither special operations nor the experience of war will validate the philosophical conclusions these guys are making.

[@Brotherken1234]

​@@5metoo Okay so what educational or experiential do you have that qualifies you to back up your claims. Please respond.

[@5metoo]

@@Brotherken1234 - You didn't grasp what I said. No experience will validate abstract questions such as those being raised in the video. Moreover, none of these questions are new. People who think the questions raised in this videos are new to our present time are easily persuaded by simple ideologies. There is nothing new under the sun. Who has debated these questions in the past, and does their wisdom matter now? If you don't know or if you think it wouldn't be relevant, then what education or experience do you have that would back up such a claim? Please respond.

[@jairesemccoy9779]

​He doesnt need to. Look for it in yourself. He is absolutely right. Although, i disagree with his statement about absolutes. If you see it, they tried to make it seem like they were all bad, but that reallt is a simplification. Look at animals and ask yourself about love, then youll get that answer. A mama bear would kill you in a heart beat to protect her cubs. And you kill that bear (finding unimaginable strength) to kill that bear to protect yours. May the best win. These people are still fathers​, capable of love: the abiltiy to nurture and to protect. This is how many feel, but it gets repressed and manifest in ways we dont like. We are gods, capable of good and bad. We're able to create and destroy. You dont need a certificate (pieceof paper) to justify intelligence, especially when there are lvls to it. @@Brotherken1234

[@taharqa332]

I’m so glad you made this post. I served with Naval Special Warfare from 2008-2015 in a support role or as we’re called in the teams a “Technician” or “Tech”. I was assigned to SEAL Team FOUR from 2008-2011 then NSW Advanced Training Command Det Fort Story (Formerly Det. Little Creek) from 2011-2015. Retired as a Senior Chief (E8) in my respective “rating”. I’ll say this; I learned so much stuff from Team Guys it’s not even funny, knife skills, marksmanship, CQB, H2H, Planning, swimming technique, physical fitness….things that actually translate to my life. However, the same guys who taught me these things have no scruples - the amount of thievery, drug use, alcoholism, wife beating, connivers, liars, scammers is at the CORE of who these guys are. The guys who were SEALs who didn’t play “the game” were not TEAM GUYS!!! They were pushed aside, shit jobs, not promoted, got out, backs turned on…I could name 10 guys who were good men to the core but not true to the bone TEAM GUYS! I knew (fat ass) Morgan Luttrell - Marcus’ twin brother, Britt Slabinski…I worked with CDR Job Price “daily” only months before he committed “suicide” 👀 >>>> don’t get me wrong; I RESPECT what they do, why they do it…the level of commitment to even BECOME!!! But be clear - you would not want 95% of those guys as a friend. To date … I’m friends and in contact with a handful of SEALs from my time. Those guys? Those few? They’re who you think all SEALs really are.

[@fareskherbane3166]

I've recently stumbled across a video talking about the Marcus Luttrell story being totally exaggerated and full of lies to make the story sound much more epic than what it realistically was and to make a name for himself selfishly. I would like to know your opinion on that whole topic since you were ACTUALLY with those kinds of people and I guess have heard the different opinions circulating in that community.

[@jt-el8540]

@taharqa322 Getting trained up by these dudes was maybe one of the most valuable things I've learned and one of my favorite times ever. I get what he means and there are always shitheads in Group and on teams as well but yeah I've spent years with top notch team guys.

[@taharqa332]

@@fareskherbane3166I can’t say if his story is false or not. I met Marcus and will say this; he drinks his own kool-aid..he’s too cool for school and was treated like a celebrity even among other SEALs. He and his brother; I don’t know how they made it through but they did…both of em are fat asses. I thought each of them were actually kinda “slow” mentally but who am I? I’ve heard that the story is questionable but think about it…what isn’t? If YOU weren’t there it’s second hand, third hand…information. Napoleon Bonaparte said this about history “History is a pack of lies agreed upon”…I’d wager that most of what we have taken on as truth with regard to history or war stories etc. is in fact a lie or at best; heavily exaggerated.

[@taharqa332]

@@jt-el8540It’s PRICELESS access and training and I got it for FREE!!!

[@QuanshengQwin]

Good ole MoH Slab… if people only knew

[@thecorkgrahamchannel]

When I first heard. “You ain’t trying if you ain’t lying,” from a SEAL, I saw what had happened to this younger generation in the military. When people say every generation gets the government they deserve…This is why.

[@nav4291]

Exactly.

[@Griot-Guild]

What do you mean by government they deserve?

[@dxpdigital5343]

@@Griot-Guildwhen the people complain about their evil, tyrannical or (insert here) government etc, it was THEIR FAULT. Look up an “ EGREGORE” this is the (insert here) the people complain about but have nevertheless altogether created for themselves.

[@coolbuddydude1]

@@Griot-Guilda government that reflects the people.

[@jmgonzales7701]

this is what warriors are like

[@AnthonyGTrees]

Most valuable American hero I know is the service worker I’m entrusted with the job of making my lunch. To the common Man who does good at their work, Thank you for you’re service.

[@Bea-Dubya]

As a vet, I don’t understand why so much reverence is given to service members.

[@jlee3453]

Because it’s brainwashed into people by the people sending serial killers to do their bidding

[@Late2Party]

It's all about holding the narrative that military service is a godly act to the general public. Thankfully people seem to be waking up.

[@infini.tesimo]

​@@Late2Partyright. This extends to the benefits given. Some of these vets are fully able live off disability pay but are actually just fine.

[@brewcity2317]

I have my hypothesis. Emphasis on hypothesis. I suspect, I think, it is do to an exchange, a social engineering created by the Military Industrial Complex as it is called, with help from the media and politicians, they get to financially $$$ profit from "forever wars," and in exchange they get the American population to celebrate "you" as the veteran. Have you ever seen the movie Hunger Games? Well... I think it's something like that, not exactly the same, but similar to how the elites and media in that movie treat the winners 🏆 of the Games.

[@Late2Party]

@brewcity2317 Unfortunately the Poverty/School to military/prison pipeline is very real.

[@Ghost-mg5xz]

Idolize and respect are two different kinds of perspectives. Many can be respected , none should be idolixed.

[@taharqa332]

True indeed.

[@jayr3381]

Tell that to all the Shawn Ryan fanboys who treat him like he's the next massiah

[@vedder10]

@@jayr3381it’s the same thing with the Jocko fanboys. They hang on to every word he says and will buy e every supplement and product he sells.

[@amarakanneh6628]

@@jayr3381jocko and Shipley fanboys too

[@vettevegas]

So, whats a Hero?

[@TheCCBoi]

Jake's been saying this for years - I'm glad you and Nate are speaking the truth.

[@jakezweig]

That is why I made this video!!!

[@ChuckHolland-i4b]

My time in Corps was absolute savagary. The wolf pack is merciless. I beleive the only reason we had officers is to stop us from going after each other.

[@hoofgripweightlifting6872]

You two fine Americans are heroes. Not because you are GB and SEAL. You’re heroes for SPEAKING THE TRUTH!!! Well done, gents. And thanks for spreading the truth.

[@jakezweig]

thank you

[@BoostedPastime]

​@@jakezweigthank you so much for the work that you're doing right here because I believe that not so much the world but specifically the American people specifically Young American men and also American women as well as American politicians families fathers and mothers should understand the reality is definitely not the cheesy 80s movie stereotypical action figure.

[@jakezweig]

@BoostedPastime yes sir my pleasure

[@admdubya2107]

Military and police have the highest rates of domestic violence in the general population.

[@johndough1703]

imagine a Lesbian Police officer lol

[@Michael-xc6eq]

Take a peek at doctors and lawyers!

[@michealharrison3502]

@@johndough1703gahhdamn that’s a nasty thought

[@johnmuselmann7886]

People who seek out position a of power often abuse it

[@malakiquest]

All respect to their ability to survive in combat, but I'd rather die a good man than live as a monster.

[@yenhan705eh77]

And thank God for those monsters that you can live and die as a good man

[@sardalamit]

To everyone his own. We do need the monsters at the wall to dissuade invaders.

[@sleepingrogue4130]

They convince themselves that they’re doing it to protect civilians 😂. What a load of crap.

[@keykosantana]

I learned around 18 that you don’t make role models. Everyone is imperfect and you pick good traits you want to emulate and disregard bad traits

[@prodRegularDude]

And even then, everyone has a different idea of whats good and bad

[@Warstyx485]

I listen to guys like Jocko and Goggins for a reminder as to what my mindset should be to push thru to achieve my personal goals. I don't look to them or anyone else at all for moral or ethical guidance. I don't need someone else to tell me right from wrong, nor should anyone here.

[@cowlico]

Very true

[@hotcakesism]

No, you should be open to criticism, especially from an ethical point of view.

[@Warstyx485]

@@hotcakesism morals and ethics are subjective, tho. Especially morals.

[@straightline76]

@@Warstyx485 Given you only wrote this statement a few hours ago, you might want to think about it in a little more depth.

[@ir8free]

what is your moral compass?

[@calisthenicarts312]

I mostly listen to David Goggins, he’s mostly about improving yourself. He rarely talks about military and he has a disgust for most operators due to his experience. My experience associating with Navy Seals, there are some extremely smart and ingenuity folks in there. They can come up with stuff that is outside the box. This trait I do admire. As far as needing psycho persona to be special force, I can argue that lots of military leaders in regular military are not nice or good people, sure they appear nice because they hold a top rank. They don’t have guts like special force. There is lots of these top military folks who got there by sabotaging others and cheating their way up. So when people idolize someone, you really don’t know what they really did and who they truly are behind the scenes.

[@ButtersOhh]

Goggins is a real one. When everybody went out playing perfect he was going around saying that he really is an insecure fat milkshake lover. Then looked at how we can be better. Nothing but respect for that man

[@walexander8378]

He seems like a good guy. Has a sense of humor about himself and that's why he can talk shit and not come off like an ahole.

[@jonathanbenoza8136]

Its a cult. "Role model" my azz, what are you, kids?

[@wildbill60]

How about the guy who puts in 8-12 hrs a day to support his family

[@vettevegas]

I just wrote the same thing! 😂

[@jackwebb3757]

It doesn't take courage if it is not optional. From a factory worker who works a hard job because of pattern and fear of change. Holding a job is not tough it is the bare minimum.

[@vedder10]

@@jackwebb3757 It is when he does it to provide stability and financial security for his family. Many parents can make the choice to walk away from it all. Many actually do. But those one's who wake up day in and day out to provide for their families so the lights stay on, the heat stays on, and the refrigerator is always stocked are hero's. Especially in times like these when social media doesn't celebrate and even makes it more difficult for families to raise their families.

[@patriotjones5705]

Man you're supposed to do that, that's literally basic adulting and parenting. These guys are going waaaaay past that. I'm a father, husband etc, don't need a pay on the back for that

[@vedder10]

@@patriotjones5705 I guess you don’t pay attention to the world around you. Do you know the percentage of single parent households without a father or even father figure.

[@machetedonttweet1343]

Yep.I was an MP in Benning. The first job I took after ETS was as a Corrections Officer on Rikers Island. It paid well, and I had done prisoner escorts to Leavenworth. The special ops soldiers were among the most volatile people I ever policed. And I worked "Mental Health" housing areas on Rikers.

[@maxnemo1643]

To a lesser degree, I wonder how far this might apply to law enforcement. Especially when times get tough, who are the ‘rule followers’ that will say “I was only following orders” on judgment day ?

[@tw5139]

Law enforcement doesn't have an honor code. So imo, they don't ever deserve the benefit of the doubt. The good cops know about the bad cops on their force and do nothing about it. They are part of the problem.

[@bobbyb4024]

They’re literally the same.

[@BoostedPastime]

@@maxnemo1643 gangsters with a badge it would seem.

[@prod5429]

The same factors apply for law enforcement. The difference is that police officers are in the public eye and operate by different rules of engagement. The public is less forgiving of moral failings from an officer than a soldier and there are barricades placed in S.O.P's that weed out the officers who go too far..In this career field I've met great guys who weren't the best out of uniform.. some weren't the best even in uniform. Many of the guys I've worked with, like myself, were vets and some of them certainly had screws loose and could not translate well into a law enforcement setting. Law enforcement requires restraint and apprehension where they were accustomed to eliminating a threat. You need all 3, but some don't know where the line is.

[@dantauche7917]

Police are completely different. Their job isn’t to kill people. They usually are not knowingly going into mortal danger. Totally different mindset imo

[@connor-g4r]

"I'm tired of being told who to admire in this country! Aren't you sick of being told who your heroes ought to be? You know? Being told who you ought be looking up to. I'll choose my own heroes, thank you very much." - George Carlin

[@sumthingwikked4257]

I'm tired of looking up. My neck hurts thinking heroes and dreams are up above. My heroes and dreams are down below, six feet, with a stone slab that tells us who lies there and when they got here.

[@Blaqlyte93]

I dont respect the military for what it made me want to be, i respect the military for what it made me not want to be.

[@DavidKrech-d5u]

Jake you shoot straight. I respect that, I don't like BS. Social media has made sociopaths into supermen. I have seen and been around these people from childhood. Love the content Jake, Keep it going Sir. Be well

[@raysabetto-davis834]

I was talking with my friends that I grew up with after the antihero pod dropped. We all fanboyed over Tim Kennedy and the whole black rifle gang like most gen z generation to the point that we actually looked down on grunts that served because they weren't “special”. What straight up punks we were to think like that. Smh.

[@fireandiron4181]

The ironic thing? A “normal grunt” that was in Fallujah has 10x the combat experience of any of the modern team guys.

[@bleachdotwav]

12:33 probably an unpopular opinion, but these people aren’t sent to do horrific things on behalf of the American people but on behalf of US oligarchs and the military-industrial complex.

[@samuellamour6800]

I think it's probably a little bit of both.

[@Griot-Guild]

​@@samuellamour6800those same oligarchs do mass layoffs, poison our water, make healthcare inaccessible and spread poverty so I disagree

[@uriblaketheriddimprotege]

I think its the military-industrial complex disguising itself as "fighting for freedom" or "protecting our people". And the word protect is very broad in this case

[@sebastienarseneault2602]

Let’s also acknowledge the fact that on the night of Bin Laden’s raid, the SEALs they used were at the behest of the CIA / President and not the US Navy. So for the night they got to be CIA operators with zero oversight from the Navy. On top of that, we illegally entered a country, Cambodian style.

[@Mark-t9l7r]

What if I told you the military industrial complex is still just a bunch of American citizens trying to make money, making them no more different than any other business or government entity.

[@davidcook680]

I joined the navy along time ago. I wanted to be a seal. Had a petty officer after he got to know me for awhile where I was stationed. Straight tell me I wasn’t the type of person who makes it as a seal. Not that I couldn’t handle the physical aspects of it. My mind wasn’t right. I was like what is my mind weak or something. I wasn’t upset at his words or what he was saying. Honestly it hurt my feelings. He could tell and said how me saying that to you and how it makes you feel is why. I’m not saying you’re weak or anything. Just your personality and you isn’t right for it. You aren’t a killer. You are to nice. All these years later after watching this video and looking back on my life and how I am. I understand what he meant and he was correct. I can’t handle stepping on a spider or bug. Much less ever kill anyone.

[@gregglasscock7470]

The same guy telling you not to look at him as a role model is the same guy that is reminiscing in a way about how violent he is. It is really just another attempt to self congratulate themselves. It's a humble brag and I think this sort of sentiment makes them even more popular.

[@jakezweig]

Come on man

[@coolgamer2135]

Maybe or most likely

[@levigodwinn]

@@jakezweig I mean, he does have a point, but it's complicated. The guy openly admits he has no remorse for the "horrendous" things he’s done (his words), yet he surrounds himself with Valhalla and Viking imagery, both in his room and inked on his body. As a viewer, what am I supposed to take away from this video? He's essentially saying, "Don't idolize me-I've done bad things and I'm fine with that, but you shouldn't be." Okay, but it feels like a thinly veiled attempt to distance himself from the glorification-the "thank you for your service" narrative, the viewership, and all the ego stroking that comes from his past as a special forces operator. This is pure ethos, logos, and pathos: trying to evoke empathy while asserting his "honesty" in a way that both humanizes him and enhances his reputation. It’s an attempt to make himself appear almost relatable, to secure more respect, and ultimately, more exposure. But his ego couldn’t resist-he had to throw in that he feels no remorse, which undercuts any semblance of real introspection. Honestly, he comes across more like a serial killer who’s proud of his past actions, unapologetic about them, and indifferent to the consequences. He’s the one with the platform, after all, and people-either like-minded or misguided-look up to him. And, let’s be real, he loves it. His entire identity is built around what he did in those few years. It's clear this guy just enjoys hearing himself talk and feeding off the attention, all while pushing the narrative that he’s some tortured soul trying to warn others. But in reality, it’s just part of his brand.

[@Vandicoup]

@@levigodwinn I'm pretty sure he never said that makes him better or morally superior in any way. He's just telling it like it is. Someone should. Someone has to.

[@alansteel]

It's like any testimonial given. Most people will get the intended cautionary message. Some people will get stuck on thinking they are glamorizing it. Of course, there are aspects that sound cool. Otherwise, no one would have wanted to do it. The guy is cautioning you to see past that part.

[@boathemian7694]

I was a recon marine way back. I was a prior service Army veteran who joined the MC and it was shocking how gangster the battalion I was in. Couple of decent guys, but many were fucking psycho at minimum. Liars, thieves, buddyfuckers, etc. Glad when I got the hell outa there.

[@jakezweig]

Yes sir

[@lprocksyd]

Aussie civilian here. Don't know American slang and definitely dont know american military slang. Does buddyfucker mean what I think it does?

[@3asyp3as3y]

Holy shit. There isn't as much public drama with MARSOC as NSW. I wonder why. Seems like the same problems.

[@janetstorm7881]

This is funny as sh*t, I started laughing as soon as I heard the opening. About 10 years ago I had a friend who was a Navy Seal actually he serve many years with Seal Team 6 and he was being honored that night locally in my town, and we were having a few drinks beforehand. He was telling me about combat. I was a veteran but served during peace time, but one statement he made was crazy. He told me that killing for him and his team got so easy and they wanted to make it more of a challenge so they would take something like hatchets with them, and just chop people in some circumstances instead of shooting them. I was shocked when I heard that and I said without thinking "what are they training you guys to be Serial Killers". He wasn't amused when I spontaneously asked that question so I apologized. crazy 😎

[@curmudgeon8]

He answered with his attitude-yes, they were training them for that

[@Alex-tx2em]

He told you they would kill armed men with hatchets? And you believed him?

[@No-jo1qo]

@@Alex-tx2emwhen was the last time american special forces fought properly armed men?

[@Alex-tx2em]

@@No-jo1qo Properly armed or not, trying to kill a man armed with an old-reliable soviet rifle by using a hatchet will get you sent back to the states in a box.

[@metroman8185]

I been a Hunter for 35 and taken out big game in Africa and in Alaska . Bragging for popularity has no glamor. Taking human life is not cool. It is pure BS here!!

[@andys30us]

We get lied to and propagandized by mainstream media. Just have to fool 51 to 75% of the public. Show business (news and entertainment) is a powerful tool. Worked in Roman times and still works today. Maybe we are not as smart as we think we are.

[@unhhgcrxexhjvuvujchcrzwzwz7956]

That's not like a cool thing to do? Hiring some African dude to baby you through a camping trip with expensive guns isn't too special

[@jacobrodriguez1150]

I agree with you but you did kind of bragged about taking big game(trophy wildlife) 😂😂

[@therainman7777]

@@jacobrodriguez1150 lol true

[@sleepingrogue4130]

They convince themselves that they’re doing it for the good. They’re all ignorant tools in my opinion and don’t deserve an ounce of my respect.

[@nrgao]

Maybe it’s just me, but if you need a stranger to be a role model, you need to find a better crowd to be around. Roles models should be realistic figures in your life that can not only inspire but help guide you in the tough moments.

[@jakezweig]

Yessir, very much so

[@Mark-t9l7r]

Well, it used to be your dad but now 50% of children come from single parent households, but we aren't supposed to blame the men for that.

[@wesgregory9003]

You can still have both. It’s not mutually exclusive. I have several mentors in my life but I still look up to people I haven’t met. Hell, the CMC and SMMC serve as role models and most marines haven’t met them.

[@mmtm3529]

I feel the same holds true for many law enforcement officers. They know how to pass the psychiatric exams. Many law enforcement officers are trying to get a law overturned to not have body cams. In the end, it's individuals who have little to no empathy.

[@mattjack3983]

Glad you made this video. Im a US Army veteran and have served in both Iraq & Afghanistan. I was never in SF. I was a regular old infantryman. But the concept is still the same. We arent there for any other reason than to deal death downrange. Thats it. The an infantryman's job. To close with and destroy the enemy. Its not for everyone. And it shouldn't be for everyone. Its nothing to idolize or admire. When i was deployed, if asked to honestly answer what i was going to miss the most when i went home, my honest answer would have been something along the lines of: "Stacking bodies and fucking shit up.." That would have been the answer most of us would have given. And for alot of us, its uncomfortable to hear, "Thankyou for your service.." because 99.99% of the time, the person giving thanks doesnt truly understand what our actual "service" is, and what the job we did requires us to do to others. And most people dont really want to know either. We arent "knights in shining armor". We are grim reapers, in camouflage, and black painted faces, coming to bring death and destruction to whatever is in our way. If you want to enlist in the military, and thats not the kind of person you are, then stay out of the infantry, and definitely stay out of SF. Again, this job isnt for eveyone. And its not supposed to be. We dont want or need anyone whongoing to be having some kind of moral dilemma when we're downrange. We want someone who is going stand ready to deal death and stack bodies, without question. There's still place for you in the military. Just not in the infantry if thats not something you're good with.

[@Lord-of-the-Pit]

*nods from his abrams*

[@jakezweig]

Thank you !!!! Kick ass man!!!!

[@BravoBravo51]

@@Lord-of-the-Pit *laughs in armored infantry

[@SoldierDrew]

No lies detected. Rendezvous w/Destiny.

[@-_-----]

Yeah that sounds really tough and everything..... .....but did you "Grim Reapers" ever stop to ask whether or not you were "bringing death" to the right people? ......... or -and be honest - were you just happy to have a job, and to be venting your childhood anger on someone?

[@Ancin47]

Just know that our politicians will turn this “energy” on any “enemy”, whether foreign or domestic… They hit targets and don't ask questions.

He's planning to do just that

[@tomsnowden6201]

lol got that TDS??

[@kevinbell4570]

Send it

[@SOLIDSNAKE.]

Exactly military and law enforcement public enemy #1

[@Doc_Roe]

Is it just me or does Jakes Mmkayyy rub off on anyone else? I just caught myself teaching my niece something and finishing with mmkay 🤣🤣

[@NOTAndrewWilliamSharkey777]

Jake should make an mmkayyy seasoning

[@brandonseals6732]

Mm huh.... Ummmkayy

[@jakezweig]

Ok

[@jakezweig]

Thank you man

[@HQnictroy1]

😂😂 facts, mmkayyy

[@azaryahdamanifestor3985]

Idk these other guys but David goggins life story is an inspiration. On those hard days working construction, forcing myself to go out for another long day against the weather while still trying to be in the gym and take care of my kid i listen to this guy and it really helps realize i still have a little more in the tank

[@nativeamericancowboy5028]

Whatever motivates you to find your highest form, is what you use to find your highest form. There is no right or wrong when it comes to productive motivation.

[@doggo9567]

Ikr what a journey to just end up as an average joe lying fitness dickhead how inspiring

[@lordofthehouseofstormcrows8615]

I wouldn't think that a serial killer would enjoy tier 1 operative, you know, the whole being told what to do and where to go. I'd say 99% of serial killers are all about control, not being controlled. Thanks for your service, keep up the great work coach.

[@Mark-t9l7r]

Yea, serial killers LOVE discipline, order, long work hours, getting yelled at, working almost exclusively with other men.

[@Cynful033]

You don’t know the definition of a serial killer then. You want to watch Dexter and assume they’re like that. Nurses psychopathy is pretty high as well.

[@shinyhappyshibas1385]

Talk about an important video, thanks for this one Jake!

[@jakezweig]

BOOOOOOOM share it please

[@jt-el8540]

I was taught accountability shooting and countless other things by Nate Boyer and other cats in 10th. My experience was amazing with these dudes. It was like football again and they were smart and showed me how they learn anything. I've gotta disagree brother Jake. Growing up in Pittsburgh I knew people way worse but without principle. I learned principles and love for competition from teams. Selfish in some areas selfless in others.

[@jt-el8540]

​​@@jakezweigPlus your channel is a beacon for greatness and getting after it. Men on Earth need to be this way or everyone gets butt grapes by pirates lol. I get where you guys are coming from though.

[@vettevegas]

So, what is a hero?

[@jakezweig]

@@jt-el8540 All good man

[@Widemouth1832]

My dad's NG unit was filled with mostly Vietnam combat vets. As a young kind I would spend time with them and their families. My dad would always say that he is surprised many more of these guys didn't knock off banks and do hits for gangs given the amount of combat those guys had seen. I just remember being at a bar restaurant and seeing these guys fight in the parking lot while their wives and kids are sitting in the restaurant worried. They come back in to the restaurant bloodied and spend the time getting their story straight for the cops. Then they go into this bro mode with the police and convince them to arrest the townies and not them. It was interesting to see at 7-8 years old. Almost all of them had CIB's, Bronze stars, etc.

[@marianotorrespico2975]

--- INFANTRY . . . is a calling. One must be straight with oneself to be infantry, otherwise the ambiguity leads to the hut of the village head-shrinker.

[@Widemouth1832]

@@marianotorrespico2975 These guys were a cast of characters. A while back I read a story where a NG unit had to lock themselves in their offices when a crazy guy with a samari sword ran around outside. The NG guys I saw would have tuned that guy up if it made them gave to stay late and miss their kids or their tennis time. These guys who stay at our house after my dad got out. One was obsessed with tennis, but was a huge womanizer who has been married multiple times. His third honey moon was at our house in St Louis! My mom was not happy. Another guy was an expert at SSI disability and had his kids diagnosed with everything under the sun to get SSI money. All these guys had done multiple tours in Vietnam and had medals for bravery. My favorite times were sitting outside BBQing as they told stories from basic, Korea and Vietnam.

[@spencerhopkinson9874]

Books like No Country for Old Men by Cormac McCarthy depicted where some of those guys ended up.

[@EstradaDuran-sg6co]

sound like cowards

[@marianotorrespico2975]

@@EstradaDuran-sg6co --- THAT DEPENDS UPON THE CONTEXT . . . in the city or in the boondocks.

[@OoooshetriesSs]

My “uncle” was a Green Beret…(this was back when u were given the option of service instead of going to jail … usually for violent crimes…) I can’t speak for all green berets.. but to watch him be worshipped when he was one of the sickest me I’ve ever met.. Thank you for ur video. U hit the nail right on the head.

[@markmarkyyy5632]

I got a brother in-law who was in the marines and never saw combat and he can't shut up about his 4 yrs. in it. Conversely, I have another brother in-law who was a former navy seal with over 20 yrs. in the teams and he rarely speaks about it.. The ex marine guzzles his beer and owns over a half dozen firearms while the ex seal sips 1-2 glasses of wine and got rid of every firearm he owned about 5 yrs.ago!

[@mgway4661]

I don’t think I will ever get rid of my weapons. Thats just naive on his part

[@EstradaDuran-sg6co]

both sound equally gay

[@kwilliams3161]

I went in usmc never saw combat either but I cared more about job security when I got out as an air traffic controller .most infantry don’t get out and go in high paying jobs making 150k plus .

[@RoninX33]

​@@mgway4661Maybe he got rid of them because mentally he felt it may not have been the best idea to have them. That's good decision making. You don't know the guys headspace.

[@Mark-t9l7r]

How do you know if someone served a single tour in the Marines? Easy, they'll tell you in the first minute you meet them.

[@JoelGeorge]

Wow... I can't believe how real this video got. Thank you so much for your sincerity.

[@jakezweig]

I’m trying to keep it real.

[@aaaa-xf3hx]

I’ve read being sociopathic is an indicator of success in most walks of life because they don’t feel fear in the way a normal person does. They’re able to logically weigh up the risk vs reward and if it’s beneficial for them to do something, they will do it.

[@aldowilliams4765]

Also no shame. Shame destroys a plethora of normal peoples’ potential and inhibits the ability to “charm” or effectively communicate with others.

[@stevend481]

Also a big thing of no empathy

[@Warstyx485]

Guess all those people that have called me a sociopath are right then. I just call it being logical.

[@Lonr18888]

A lot of skateboarders that I knew growing up were like this.

[@stookahmon7102]

@@Lonr18888please explain ! ,the Skateboarders I knew from growing up where quite nice people idk . Just normal more or less but not psychopathic or very anti social

[@jonpicojones4032]

Truth. Jeff Nichols constantly mentions his job was to take human life, an honest and not so embellished job description.

[@sp123]

Jon Jones is the type of.guy that would pass the screening

[@jonpicojones4032]

@ I agree entirely.. dude is definitely a psycho. Great fighter though.

[@Mark-t9l7r]

He was the .00001% of the military trained to do that. OMG we train people to kill lord have mercy how awful oh wait that's literally been a thing since humans existed.

[@jonpicojones4032]

@@Mark-t9l7r 😂

[@Titan_1784-y1v]

Ok, I like this cat. He's very truthful.

[@vettevegas]

Ditto. I just subscribed.

[@revert_irelia]

the perspectives from both of you were so eye opening to me, great video

[@DmitreJO]

Foreigner here, I understand respecting people that fight for your country’s interests but i totally agree with you these are not figures of morality.

[@jayr3381]

Shawn Ryan fanboys need to have this video on repeat because they treat him like the next Messiah

[@slacker7918]

This needs to be at the top, as an older guy the amount of college age “men” I see at my college that idolize that guy and everything he says /does is kind of scary

[@pizzacrust7029]

That’s what happens though when young men have no real role models. There aren’t strong men to look up to, so when a strong and seemingly morally sound guy pops up and gets popular it’s only naturally young guys will gravitate. Plus with the celebrity culture that teaches kids from birth that celebrities should be idolized gets pushed so hard that a new hit guy shows up and all the young men worship him because that’s what they are taught. If you want this to change then you need to get kids young and teach them about the differences of respect and worship. As a young guy myself (24) I catch myself falling into that pattern too and it’s hard to break when it’s programmed into your brain for your whole life. So yes they are dumb but they also need to be shown the better way

[@Michael-fh6lw]

😢Shawn Ryan has REPEATEDLY spoke on his own distress and life screw ups and how to try and AVOID that pitfall. He talks about survival and experience, but I have NEVER heard him brag or beat his chest about killing and seeing people die. NOT A fan boy but I'd rather LISTEN to those who " been there done that" than those who sh*t on the reality cause it hurts their feelings. I notice this KZbinr was all in when it " worked for him" but now sounds like a bitter betty

[@Michael-fh6lw]

​what's a real role model? Was a cop for 29 yrs - if I listened to all the " we know better " folks , I was supposed to be a bully, an abuser, a racist , a coward, and alcholic , a murderer... But THEY WEREN'T THERE when I was putting a blanket on a kid abandoned by parents in a decrepit motor home. They WERENT THERE when I pulled a parolee off his pregnant wife after he knocked four of her teeth out. They WERENT there when I and my partner did CPR on a 17 yr old gangmember shot multiple times. Where are all these great " role models" cause when I went into a Starbucks, parents brought their kids up to me and told them to TRUST ME. We habe a crisis in manhood in this country brought on by those who are WEAK MINDED and disrespectful of civic responsibilities cause they would rather cleave to anarchy and irresponsible life styles Marcus Auelius was right - and the harsh military ethos teaches stoicism better than a liberal college professor teaching students that there are " hundreds of genders".....

[@Brotherken1234]

​@@Michael-fh6lw ?? 🤔

[@buckshot927tx]

How the hell does this all American badass only have 75k subscribers????!!!!??

[@JoshuaBunkowske]

I just subscribed

[@jakezweig]

I tell the truth to much

[@jakezweig]

LETS GO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@carlosenriqueulloa]

@@jakezweig Don't stop. You do a great service.

[@Mark-t9l7r]

Mostly because he does the same shit he accuses others of doing. He sells a worthless Navy SEAL fitness plan and makes KZbin videos bitching about others, making him exactly the same as the people he mocks. Hope that helps.

[@Gottiline_Ace]

Most people live a kushy life full of comfort. They fall apart when the cat dies and go to therapy. Not understanding the brutality and atrocities of war is a massive understatement.

[@vettevegas]

So well said.

[@Theo-dj7vs]

But you've NEVER been to war, yet you know so much about it. You sound NPC-ish.

[@AlexanderTheGreatest-z4j]

Like you?

[@Gottiline_Ace]

@@Theo-dj7vs difference is, i didn't grow up in the suburbs with a kushy life. I know what it's like to live in poverty and watch people die right in front of you to in a kill or be killed situation. And I still don't think I am some warrior or battle hardened killer that's ready for anything. I am willing to bet I am much more capable than either of the weak minded trolls responding to my comment with pessimism.

[@Gottiline_Ace]

@@AlexanderTheGreatest-z4j I understand and appreciate my position in a 1st world country that isn't constantly at war on its own soil. I've seen and dealt with plenty enough of it to know it's not something 99% of people are built for.

[@WolfyTheIn-between]

Me stepfather was a high ranking PJ, 96 confirmed kills, if he got mad you saw death in his eyes. The things he put me and my siblings through are the kinds of things you would see in a violent Lifetime movie and everyone who sees the trailer goes "yeah right...what anti patriotic crap no way this would happen with a bunch of kids and an honored vet" I have respect for the bravery and many of the good things you all have done. And I am grateful that it's starting to get acknowledged just how bad it gets, and not everyone has honor. The families can't speak, we can't talk about the shit that happens, you all are our voices...thank you for bringing some of it to light

[@Simon-IFF]

Very well said! I'm just thankful you guys found an outlet and a purpose.

[@erikhouston]

Love your channel Jake! Oh btw the Vikings are more around 900-1000 AD, you said 1400’s which is more the age of exploration, but your point was correct, Vikings were absolute savages

[@jakezweig]

LOL man im trying over here!!!!!

[@ladetygr]

We shouldnt idolize anyone. Work on yourself, become the best version of yourself. Admire qualities in others but idolize no one and nothing!

[@slimefrank6317]

Well said.

[@goagray5]

This.

[@983mademan]

Extremely well articulated by both veterans. Even enlistees during wartime experience these dilemmas.

[@cowlico]

I have a friend of mine who got out after four years in the corps and kudos to him for his service, but he idolizes the hell out guys telling him stories about how they served in special operations only to find out quite a few of those guys aren't on the level. Crazy man! I respect these guys, but don't idolize too many folks aside from my dad.

[@MiguelMolina-e3z]

Thank you for shedding the truth of the mindset of Special Forces.

[@Mark-t9l7r]

Yea, thanks for re-enforcing my perceived stereotypical view of a group of people I know nothing about otherwise!

[@no_regerts5176]

I come at this from a different angle. I’ve known killers and have met serial killers. They don’t get PTSD.

[@-_-----]

Well that's a dumb angle, because they don't get a salary, equipment, training, nor a pension at the taxpayer's expense either. Creeps are creeps - stop making excuses for psychopaths-by-any-other-name.

[@JohnDoe-fv9si]

This is why I love your content. It’s so honest.

[@AngelinaMae-r3y]

Much love for you’re honesty, my grandpa told me that their is no distinction between “operators” and the cartel he then when on to elaborate on how he knows the cartel is more likely to have compassion for some of their victims and how that can be a potential vulnerability and a security threat, he said basically we are professional bad guys, that’s the only difference!

[@voiceofreason5893]

Wow. Very powerful and informative. I'm certainly guilty of strongly admiring these folks. This was a much needed video for me. Thanks for posting.

[@DelCabron]

Mannnn I love this video. This is exactly… EXACTLY wtf I’ve been saying all along.

[@ryand4533]

There a reason you used to be able to get out of going to prison by enlisting in the military. They still allow it to some degree to this day. It’s not because the military is great at building discipline.

[@PreacherOfTheWord]

Took me a long time to learn this. Amen

[@PreacherOfTheWord]

That being said, this video has me considering marsoc

[@terryhill4732]

Love it when the truth comes out

[@jakezweig]

This is the way

[@dodgechargerrt1873]

These guys need to use their platforms to talk more about getting veterans help in all areas...

[@jakezweig]

were working on it

[@veertype]

This has to be the weirdest humble brag I’ve ever heard.

[@thinkbeforeyoutype7106]

"I don’t care if Americans think we’re running the news media, Hollywood, Wall Street or the government. I just care that we get to keep running them.” - Joel Stein Source : LATimes

[@vettevegas]

What is a hero? The guy that jumps on a grenade, or the guy that grinds out 94yrs, not cheating on his wife or missing a day of work. Being the best Father possible. Etc,

[@jakezweig]

Sir yes sir

[@carlosenriqueulloa]

Both are.

[@bobbyb4024]

One is brave, the other is good natured. But being brave doesn’t always translate to being a hero

[@conductingintomfoolery9163]

A hero is someone who wins war, unlike these dudes

[@kwilliams3161]

I would say that’s just a good person but not a hero .

[@AdamStoltz-y4g]

@jakezweig - Hey brother, thank you for your honest break down on this common mis-conception. As an engineering manager in a previous life, I was stuck with an ex-Special Forces guy that deep down, I knew didn't have the skills and could not fit into the team. He was a hire from above me and I had him in the team very reluctantly. I had no trust in this guy. While I have a general respect for servicemen, this insight into the elite members being sociopaths, liars, thieves and cheats, is eye-opening. Thank you and God bless!

[@thegreenlogbook]

New sub, Marine retiree and fellow vet KZbinr. SOF is a solid community, but you can definitely learn from others who are wearing or have worn the uniform. Keep the content coming!

[@UrbanTiger74]

The movie Platoon had the perfect analogy for guys who don't belong in special operations... Crusader. "Elias. Elias is a crusader." - Sgt. Barnes. 😂😂😂

[@BoostedPastime]

Absolutely.

[@yellowblanka6058]

IIRC Christian Crusaders were some of the most violent sociopaths of their time.

[@EstradaDuran-sg6co]

barnes was a coward.

[@taxevasion4870]

I was in the army cadets (UK youth organisation) where i met guys who were anything from ordinary squaddies to SAS reserve and Commandos and everything inbetween. One thing i did learn is that top soldiers are very strange people mentally, seemingly detached from the real world, who I wouldn't look up to

[@BenjaminGessel]

Vikings from the 700’s-800’s, you mean..

[@-_-----]

Exactly. And what did these bands of malcontents do every time they moved through a town? R__ed Women (and probably boys, too), Plundered, Stole.... 1000 years, nothing's changed.

[@michaelhaydenbell]

Dang we sure are lucky to be one of the only nations on earth that gets to do absolutely depraved and reprehensible things in the name of our own interests, yet still somehow always get to declare that we're the good guys no matter what we do! God bless America!!!!

[@jakezweig]

No question

[@mfawls9624]

My father was in WWII in the Navy in the Pacific at 17 yrs old. My brother got guaranteed flight school in the 80's. Became an Apache/Blackhawk pilot. His backup, if he failed flight school, was Ranger school. My parents told him if he went to Ranger school, became a Ranger...don't come home. My parents were patriotic. I have multiple siblings who are vets but they literally told him if he chose Ranger don't come home. Because THAT was a moral choice. I've never forgotten that. Part of me wishes I had been in the military, a big part of me wishes I had gone in the Marines, I nearly did. But, I talked to my sister, a Navy officer and she asked me why. My answer was about ideals and the kind of perspective of the military being about honor, service, etc. I would be guaranteed OCS, I could be an idealistic Marine officer. She didn't disparage the Marines, she respected them - for what they DID. She told me they NEED to do what they do, they don't want or need 'understanding' officers. And that they would drum me out, and rightly drum me out because they are in place for one purpose. It was eye opening...and honestly, the recruiter was not hiding that about being a Marine. I have doubt about not signing up, but I have enough self knowledge that it was likely the right decision. Army, USAF...never held any allure for me. Just the Marines. Still do. Have several friends who changed their lives as enlisted Marines. Don't know any officers.

[@epfitness9166]

When inspiration and admiration turns into idolization is when it’s a problem. I admire Goggins for his mental fortitude and sheer will, I admire Jocko for his approach to taking on full accountability, I admire John McPhee for his tactical intelligence/abilities as an operator, at least based on the stories that he has shared and the videos I’ve seen of his shooting instruction, I also admire you Jake because you shoot it straight to people raw and uncut and will let people know how it really is in the military and spec ops community and I think that’s great because it helps to weed out people that probably aren’t built for spec ops in the first place doing both the community and the individual a favor. That being said, do I look up to anyone I’ve listed as a fantastic human being that I would like to emulate or imitate in my daily life? Hell no 😂. But do each have certain qualities I would like to aspire to? For the most part Yes. For those watching I suggest to read the writings of Marcus Aurelius, he wrote down everything he learned from each person in his life, but never tried to be like them or even claimed to want to, he learned from them, good or bad, and would apply those lessons to his life, but he was still himself. Be you people. Learn from others but be you.

[@jakezweig]

Thank you man

[@epicparkourdewd]

Hollywood's responsible for a lot of the hero worship tendencies, along with the cop worship and authority worship some people have. Just the amount of "cops are heroic goodguys" movies n tv shows that hollywoods always produced points to the fact that we may live in a police state, as such a steady stream of steady narrative support wouldn't be necessary otherwise

[@nicholasbaker2904]

Ive said this for years. These people are not moraly superior. If i have to sit thru one more corporate meeting telling me to be more like a SEAL in the workplace im gonna puke.

[@Skeletors_Closet]

The truth can hurt, but more importantly, it can set you free. It’s just the same as idolizing a regular soldier, sailor, or airman. Most of the ones in active duty are shit bags and everybody is constantly trying to get out of work. I would say 90% of active duty is made up of shitbags that nobody wants to work with. My cousin was glorified for her service and her dad doesn’t even know that she spent almost her entire career on EMI and Restriction. She was constantly on FB talking smack about her chief and other superiors, but her dad thinks she’s such an honorable person. He has no clue what the sacrifice is because he went to college and lived the easy life. These fools are only convincing the other fools.

[@Charliehund100]

This is a fantastic and eye-opening video. I really appreciate the honesty here.

[@Sadiqi]

My brother was a special operator. He didn't have all the trauma most of his buddies did. He joined them because my father was in. He was defo insane tho. RIP lil bro.

[@BluM7861]

They are role models… for ppl who never had discipline in their lives and want a dramatic change. Just not everyone can obtain that level of dedication

[@kenro76]

This makes me wonder if this is what’s going on in our stateside local law-enforcement. Is the government hiring sociopath and narcissist to patrol our streets? What sort of psychological profile does an officer have to have?

[@lastword8783]

7:29 this is the closest he will come to admitting they killed civilians and terrorized villages

[@MYZTICTRAVLER]

Everyone needs a hero. The trouble starts when they find out that their idols have feet of clay too.

[@dionthomas5418]

Perfectly said Jake. I always admire and respect all the Special Forces Warriors and Operators lead the way protecting the American people, dream and way of life against all enemies everywhere by any means necessary at all times and all costs. I met a few of those guys myself. They may be humble men off the battlefield but I know that all of the Shadow Warriors stay ready for War against all enemies everywhere by any means necessary by doing bad things to bad people who hate freedom and America, it's what I believe its the deadliest line of work that keeps America free and safe. In my opinion, they are the Modern day Ninjas, Samurais, Vikings,

[@jakezweig]

thank You

[@jeffcolar7901]

I’ll go a step further and include police, fire, doctors and nurses and even some trades as well

[@Hathur]

Nobody should ever be idolized... but I would NEVER lump fire rescue, paramedics, nurses and doctors in with military services. One exists to end life and destroy. The others exist to save life. Do NOT lump the two together, it is beyond stupid. Doctors, nurses, paramedics and fire fighters save lives every day in scenarios where countless innocents would otherwise die. They are deserving of respect... not idolization (again, NOBODY is worthy of idolization), but what they do is infinitely more valuable to society than what a typical soldier of special forces soldier will ever contribute.

[@jeffcolar7901]

@ that’s not what I meant, what I did mean is that you’re going to be managing sociopaths in those occupations as well. You’re asking people to go into burning buildings run toward fights and gunfire essentially take risks for a living. Those folks are on the sociopathy spectrum as well. And the medical profession, it’s dealing with human life in ways really difficult for the extremely moral person to deal with. Look at an emergency room or any triage unit. It’s all a lot more common than one thinks.

[@reilific]

My cousins stories of the teams were just mind bending. (90-98). His team mates were the top specimens of the world but he did mention specifically some that were downright evil, or absolute dogs in the party scene. I think with the influencer age these young boys still feel the ‘I wanna be that hero’, when the reality of that line of work is very down and dirty. But hey - helps naval recruiting in the end right.

[@harkonen1000000]

Despite being about 4 centuries off, you nailed it when it comes to Vikings slaughtering through England, as a lot of it happened in response to St. Brice's Day massacre in of settled Vikings which was carried out on the orders of Æthelred the Unready in 1002, who was not ready for the massive invasions that went on until Viking victory in 1016 when Cnut the Great took the English throne, forming his short lived North Sea Empire (England, Denmark and Norway with a bit of Sweden). With regard to managing serial killers, we know Vikings had issues with that, as, most notable in historic sources, is the case of Thorkell the Tall, a high ranking Jomsviking (which were the elite Viking warriors at the time), who converted to Christianity and switched to the English side after he failed to get his men to stop using a bishop as a tomahawk target while on a raid that he organized over a drunken bet with the Danish king.

[@vans617]

thanks for making this, more people need to see!

[@Mark-t9l7r]

They would if it were true, but like everything else that comes out of this community, it's full of half-truths and exaggerations.

[@OscarAntonio-t4z]

Same with ex criminal influencers