Cam'Ron & Mase Speak On Juelz Santana Declining Career & Having Juelz Top 5 Harlem Rappers

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[@-TheOptimusCommentz-]

Juelz loved drugs more than money, and his status in the hip hop community. The end

[@db314]

🎯

[@2121luv1]

Yup he was getting too lit....

[@kisuryouri334]

You ain't never met dat nigga fam you don't know wtf happen to that man

[@RealgamerforLife]

Yeah it got the best out of him 💯

[@bw3903]

Lean!

[@icantbelieveitsnotbutter8851]

Juelz was the person that actually made me like Dipset as a kid, dude was super nice. Dipset was in their prime and he was in his prime, always wonder why he never took off or continued on the line.

[@kaliefhampton2483]

He was nice at the time but when you listen to it now he just didn't have it all. He could've gotten better but he was so successful at what he was doing at the time that growth never occurred to him. Like a dude at the local rec with a nice crossover, it looks good and works but he lacks the cardio and mindset to run pro-am.

[@icantbelieveitsnotbutter8851]

@@kaliefhampton2483 He still sound current, base on one of his most recent shit I found with Dave East. Just he got lost in the sauce. If he was grinding like wayne or remain honorable like Kiss, then he would still have a name to stand on. Even lil Jim Jones out here trying and more current than Juelz who's 1000x better than him.

[@andrewthebestthomas]

Me too I wasn’t a big Cam fan until I was grown but Juelz was my favorite rapper at one time.

[@icantbelieveitsnotbutter8851]

Absolutely, around that time he was one of my top 3. Around that time in high school ppl were making fun of Cam just rhyming anything and making up words. Not saying Cam don't have some classics. @@andrewthebestthomas

[@scienz]

Juelz is a guy that sounds good on records superficially but when you actually listen, all the "aye!" and "ok!" it just sounds kinda dumb.

[@Bugsysmooth]

For those who were around to witness the dipset era know just how nice Juelz was and how big he could’ve been if he had the work ethic. I can’t feel my face, what the game been missing, back like cooked crack and all the diplomat volume mixtapes were everything back then! He also was one of the first rappers to collab with Chris Brown. Boy was really on his way! Probably one of hip hop’s biggest disappointments.

[@ShrimplessScampi]

*No lies detected* 👍 Diplomats Vol 1-5 held so many hidden gems. Some of the best uncleared samples of all time imo

[@miamia7633]

I agree

[@MillionaireHoyOriginal]

Juelz is the Lloyd Banks of Dipset. Listening to Cam explain the situation sounds eerily similar to how 50 explains Lloyd. The crazy thing is that if either of them drops a project, there are lots of people that would gravitate towards it, as they both STILL have the skills. Of course, this isn't an apples to apples comparison - Lloyd actually drops music, but always avoided the light, and Cam is being liberal, by not bringing up Juelz drug use, which played a huge role.

[@yunqtule]

facts he been exposed Juelz on that he aint wana go there...he's like a disappointed older bro

[@MillionaireHoyOriginal]

@@yunqtule When Cam first said it, it was in defense of Juelz trying to say that Cam held him back - and it looked like he wasn't even trying to put Juelz out there like that. At the time EVERYONE thought Cam was hating or lying, but then when everyone saw Juelz missing teeth and looking aged by drug use, they knew that it was true. It's really sad, because lots of the "Back Like Cooked Crack" skits were making fun of coke heads and fiends, but the young guys of that generation didn't know that lean was the crack of this era.

[@RinzoAceSpade]

Facts💯💯💯

[@Bmore573]

Beamer benz or bentley hits different now smh. Wasted talent

[@MillionaireHoyOriginal]

@@Bmore573 Man, you're 100% right.

[@nahslimmoebobjoe3793]

Santana chose Jim and the rock star mentality over Cam and the hustler mentality.

[@dennisrodriguez3670]

Well said

[@BingBongNY]

ego killed this man it's over. Thiers a saying that if u don't keep your ego in check you can lose everything and his lyrics he says things like "they ain't on my caliber" tells me he rather believe he is the best than actually put the work in to show that he is the best,we call that an egoist and one of the things to keep your ego in check is purpose,rap for something bigger than yourself witch will create challenges for yourself bigger than you witch Santana started to do but fell more into how flyest hes was and him being the best but didn't put in the work to make such a claim and is just an egoist on drugs at this point.

[@dammitdannie215]

Definitely well said! In hindsight that’s exactly it.

[@ChrisBenoitdisntdoit]

Jim Jones gotta be an informant. Why wasn't he indicted for that wiretap call ?

[@lavfame1324]

I’m not blaming nobody, but Juelz changed once he started hanging around them Queens guys. Slow, Bucks, Skull Gang.. That Raid hurt his momentum too. So many songs lost.

[@tchrisbass5650]

Should of kept it 125th/lenox

[@Suplexx-Ortiz]

No i think Crack hurt him the most

[@edwincorrea4337]

@@Suplexx-Ortiznah opioids

[@jasoncagle9862]

I was in their county jail when he came through on that charge

[@Suplexx-Ortiz]

@@edwincorrea4337 same shit to me

[@hobbyog4786]

Santana and Lil Wayne were neck and neck back in the day...

[@RealgamerforLife]

💯💯

[@Cartel336]

Lies

[@keezemojito1278]

@@Cartel336frfr

[@justadrum]

Not to me bruh - I knew Juelz wasn’t Neo 😂 💊 Wayne was tho. His consistency kept him hot

[@DaytimeNightmare]

🛑

[@ShrimplessScampi]

“Hammers will split ya face Shift ya waist to a different place Holla at me! OH!” -Santana the Great

[@RealgamerforLife]

🔥🔥🔥

[@DaHuntersTrophy]

Yo, I be with a gang a gangs, who hang and bang Animals, orangutans Hammers move, bangers bang Damn it dude the game has changed I got a ho selection (yeah), a whole collection (yeah) A whole selection (yeah), of my ho collection (yeah) And I'm big pimpin', stick dippin', quick shiftin' Bitch listen, this isn't no damn game in here (Oww) Yeah, the whole byrd gang's in here Like Kurt Cobain was here, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah (oww) And I'm dangerous yeah, brainless yeah, stainless yeah Aim it yeah, bang it yeah (Y'all some dead motherfuckers)(oww) And my diddy-bop Barge through the city blocks Hard with the pretty Glock Dodge or you gettin shot Then enter the bar Hard liquor, get a shot Get a broad, get her hot Get her home, give her cock (Oww) Go, it's your birthday Go, go, drink it girl, it's coming, I know you're thirsty (oww) Harlem's my birthplace (oww), tombstone dirt place (oww) Doomsday, goonsday, Tuesday to Thursday (oww)

[@tpa6laf]

Gillie and Wallo x Cam and Mase = comic GOLD😂😂😂😂

[@adamgordon2572]

Sorry Cam… Big L before Juelz 💯 Juelz had the world at his feet at one time, the problem was he was lazy and wanted to eat but not do the dishes.

[@jameskelly2105]

Dats disrespect. Most rappers couldn't name 3 Big L songs without Google

[@curtisb6049]

Big L before all of them cuz laid down the foundation. Even Jay-Z switched his style cuz of Big L. Go back and listen to that freestyle with both of them. Lol

[@beattheodds6219]

@@curtisb6049ok but he died and that’s the point we don’t know his music because he died so he can’t be at the top of the list plain n simple.

[@beattheodds6219]

@@curtisb6049jay z rapping fast literally inspired busta rhymes and you can google that my guy . I’m pretty sure that freestyle had nothing to do with jay z not rapping fast he always was able to rap however he needed to flow on a particular beat

[@curtisb6049]

@@beattheodds6219it’s bout impact & influence. You could say the same bout Biggie

[@manyogurt4645]

Juelz NEEDS management. Some people are that way.

[@tchrisbass5650]

Where is jimmy?!

[@BingBongNY]

​@@tchrisbass5650jimmy was bad influence

[@Eshaper]

It’s work ethic.

[@rukumsatyaarth1504]

You sure? Like, it's really, reeeeally subtle then, I guess. I thought the problem was that Juelz' t-shirts were getting uglier by the minute after he found out about Ed Hardy. Fly? Nigga please. More like fliers.

[@intelect100]

Jules Santana Will Never be no where as Nice as Big L Santana wishes he had the Talent Skills that Big L Had!

[@numeraluno8148]

Juelz got on the lean hard af working with Wayne in between it did something to his consistency once Wayne departed i believe Wayne was his energy along with the drink it was fun Juelz got lazy independent and it stop being fun started enjoying the lean more than creating raps it slowed him down screwed him like those Texas boyz.

[@HELPINGHAND03]

His Studio got Raided and they Lost his Original Hard Drive … he lost all the songs he was recording for the Regan Era Album (prolly more Wayne and Juelz songs we just lost that makes me mad) … i think that’s what did it…. But he has no excuse NOW sitting on tons of material

[@NoreagaMan]

He was doing more than lean my guy. Dude lost his front teeth and that only happens smoking hard drugs. Just look at how he moves nowadays he has that jittery fiend movements

[@s_dot_p]

​@NoreagaMan Lean causes serious cottonmouth. Combine that with the sugar in whatever he mixed it with, and maybe even in the cough syrup itself, and it's a recipe for tooth decay.

[@NoreagaMan]

@@s_dot_p bro he's smoking rocks

[@planetdee3587]

I was a huge fan of Juelz in the beginning. I purchased some of his early mix tapes.

[@6figurewelderguy]

Anybody that saying Juelz was overrated never really listen to him. Yaw probably heard all his radio hits and are basing your opinions on that. I remember you couldn’t tell me NOTHING about lil wayne. NOTHING. Then at one point during that era I was like “damn this dude juelz is really right there next to wayne lyrically”

[@kaliefhampton2483]

He was overrated and I heard all his shit. He had nothing to really talk about, just a good delivery and rhyme scheme. He wasn't some big time hustler with stories to tell us about, just vibes.

[@him37404]

Juelz could never be hov’ level let’s get real mase

[@terrenceligon8977]

U full of shit

[@91crazybaby]

Juels Is just like Lloyd Banks! They clock in at work, but want to ride the clock... Then on Payday they wanna call out. Lol Makes sense?! 😂

[@409BRODCAST]

I posted the same thing on IG last night when the Source posted this clip I said him and Lloyd Banks in the same boat

[@91crazybaby]

@@409BRODCAST Facts!

[@mgene8093]

Sounds like me at my job

[@SlimDreadzBklyn]

Juelz was my fav diplomat ....he used go off on them heat maker beats......

[@columbusohio72]

Juelz is lazy. Dont sugarcoat it. I need to hear trooper j

[@kasolino8146]

look him up he got a couple joints out lol i looked him up right after i saw this

[@HELPINGHAND03]

You can’t really call it lazy when he actually writes and records the record … he’s only not putting the shit out … he’s literally sitting on a ton of music … like he ain’t learn his lesson from when the Feds lost his Hardrive back in 2007 or 2008 …. I think he explained that he had got unmotivated after that

[@papacashflow]

Juelz will never have that Big L respect

[@shootermcgavin214]

U crazy

[@tyheemdowney5204]

I don't give a shit what L did and didn't do, Juelz will never be in the same class

[@HELPINGHAND03]

Lmfaoooo i felt Cam “Every week he saying something coming out , Well When’s it coming out how i know cause imma fan” smh (pause on that sentence btw)

[@dontblink8942]

I still bump that final destination mixtape till this day...

[@ShrimplessScampi]

Lmao bro i just pulled a few songs from that tape up yesterday. Posted a comment under one of the vids saying it was juelz’ best tape/album and had the best cover art of all the Dipset tapes. Straight classic

[@SirGArilla]

Man!

[@thecardbunker801]

Same and the kay slay mixtape too

[@Abe51091]

Juelz is Tracy McGrady to the rap game.

[@RealTalk309]

Yo great analogy lol

[@MrPhillmorris4]

Tmac is in the hall of fame. Can’t say the same about Santana

[@RockyFresh1]

Na Tracy proved his self way more than Julez but i see what u saying

[@thegod625]

Damn Cam and Mase was putting Juelz on this level?? Wow they was giving Juelz big love...

[@stopbeingakeyboardkillermo4112]

Big L (RIP) was, and will forever be, the BEST MC from Harlem!!!

[@BiGL-of9eq]

💯

[@michealroebuck683]

Facts!

[@mrovi8]

BG came home and went straight into recording 💯

[@Mileswayv]

Max B

[@Pecan504]

Juelz was the nicest out the whole Dipset. His flow, word play, cadence & 🔥 bars 💯

[@zuluboy4056]

Facts..bro was on some other shit

[@artofmajic]

Definitely had the appeal and swagger cause I wanted to be as cool as this nigga when I was young

[@walt0078]

Honestly Juelz is the D. Rose of Rap, not in the sense of getting injured but rather in terms of, what could have been, he was special.

[@Joesbigbro78]

Bro that Wayne and juelz album woulda been so crazy with all heatmakerz beats

[@FastBreakPodcast]

Julez is the only artist to have a platinum album and not release a album after craziest shit ever!!

[@lzzjackson6461]

Walo being the wrestling champ in Jail & them calling him Dick Flair is diabolical & insane Gillie 😂😂😂😂

[@GregSkinner]

“one word to describe me? Spectacular YES!”

[@pfliz1]

@ 4:16-4:23 Gillie wild "Dick Flair" and ish 😂😂😂

[@tyheemdowney5204]

Herb Mc Gruff

[@Pizone81]

Bruh all day Gruff used to go hard asf

[@MattMcClary]

Fab, Vado, Banks & Juelz should form a group

[@Chaliebunny]

Yes sir 👍🏿

[@CircleOfWinners.Podcast]

No.

[@kpetry19]

Sheesh. That would be an ill ass group bro.

[@RL-uq8ge]

Woooooooooo maaaannnn this combo is unbelievable..... I hope they see this

[@HELPINGHAND03]

They tried this they was tryna call it the Commission or something like that…. The exact people you just named

[@neaknitty5190]

I loved The set im from Va but we thought we was Harlem in 757 changed my swag n life

[@macwest5342]

Cam actually been saying that for years. Juelz don't know how to move without dipset.

[@malcolmtelfaries]

His voice

[@PoloKid]

Anybody not putting Big L in the number 1 spot is smoking rock.

[@alphabarry4115]

I’ve always said juelz is suppose have Wayne’s career…they were neck to neck (pause) during the I can’t feel my face Era

[@SportinTrades_]

We still waiting on I can’t feel my face

[@cperkins5050]

Juelz, Cassidy, Memphis Bleek, and countless others are the reason why NY rap died in the mainstream. Those 2000 era young NY rappers never blew up nationwide. In contrast, we seen Wayne, TI, Jeezy, etc go crazy.

[@andrewthebestthomas]

Damn Cassidy from Philly

[@--REGULAR--REGULAR]

You lowkey right and also alot of beefin was going on between new york rappers at that time the lox fell out with diddy/bad boy, g unit was beefin with everybody, dmx didn't like ja rule and didn't fuck with most rappers either, murda inc was beefin with everybody, jay z and roc-a-fella vs nas and bravehearts, ll cool j vs cannibus, lil kim vs foxy brown, remy ma got locked up for a long time, dipset fell out with roc-a-fella and nas. There's also incidents behind the scenes and more beef that happened in between everything i mentioned. Alot of new york rappers should have been way more dominant in the 2010s as well, Juelz being one of them.

[@Ss31994]

@@andrewthebestthomasCassidy was crazy

[@ASJyirod]

ICFMF not being released set his career back too; him and Wayne would’ve been solidified in a way even Wayne not right now.

[@humblelion0]

4:04 When Gil started going in on Wallo 🤣🤣🤣

[@danas916x]

I always say Juelz and Lloyd Banks career's shoulda been way bigger.

[@reeceb2759]

Juelz and Jr writer was the best person in dipset

[@kennedyclark5786]

Juelz was the one who got me into the dipset stuff. It’s crazy how fast he just faded out tho. It’s like Wayne sucked all of the air out of his career.

[@Sashajamayne]

He not saying the work ethic was poor… but we know the work ethic is poor 😂

[@solace4114]

One of my fav juelz tracks is the nike track “prepare for landing, lets goooooo”

[@jacobp2690]

A lot of people talk shit about Bird Man but when you look at little Wayne's career, you see he really didn't have access to his money yet his career went on to become this storied come up... Yet you look at all these other artists who get their money upfront they just fall off the face of the planet regardless of their talent. Wayne not getting paid is probably the sole reason his career is so great, no matter how good you are we all fall off when we get comfortable

[@liquidgoldjewels1846]

Juelz only in the top 5 category for flopping. He was trash.

[@theharshrealitytruth5687]

Convos and rumors would tell you through the grape vine that a lot of Santana music was lost on some of the those hard drives but I can’t prove it one of many factors his growth was stunted

[@L4pa100]

That’s what Juelz said himself in the raid he lost all his music and i gm guest he was like fuck it for a while after that

[@alexandercompres7425]

Glad to have grown up in NY during the dipset era

[@bighuncho5210]

Juelz and Lloyd banks

[@IllChannel]

Big L also had all the elements to be elite

[@ElSan531]

Big L #1 period! Big L would destroy Juelz

[@kobeleroy7597]

Those 4 should have a podcast together

[@jbrown7]

Yup should have the same status as lil Wayne

[@FrankGallagher-OG]

Juelz & banks are one in the same

[@couchmayne4351]

These are all the dudes that helped make lil Wayne who he is today, sht crazy

[@arthurjlofton]

Cam sounds like 50 when he talks about Banks. It's frustrating to have a guy who has all the talent but they're lacking the drive and work ethic. And you as the boss/mentor have to sit there and watch the bag fumble and realize this person wasted your time. Then watch them eventually blame you!

[@dymonteirresimmons6379]

Lil Wayne said the same thing Cam is saying

[@tundeolabisi5224]

I remember thinking "Can't Feel My Face" was going to be a classic. Never really hit like it was supposed to.

[@kscproductionatl88]

I love Cam but no list in the world can Juelz be ahead of Big L. Juelz my G, but Big L on a different level. Respectfully

[@tinmackrel3523]

Juelz is still a hip hop God and legend in the flesh

[@kingdreproductions]

Juelz influenced a lot of niggas . Bro influenced my whole swag and way of rapping. I can hear juelz even when I listen to old carti as far as double entendres

[@officialjayfix]

Was on Run it with Chris Brown!

[@lilpolo2379]

Na Cam speaking Faktz

[@ronaldsnipes8662]

Man somebody please get killa some water lol bro got the Cotton...and Gillie and Wallo silly as hell they are comedy gold

[@Epiphda1]

Not putting Juelz over Big L are you serious...Dave East over JS!

[@Pizone81]

Big L and Gruff wayyyyy over Juelz it’s not even close

[@davelightsaber1621]

…juelz is like the Hulk…Better be on a Team .

[@DekylanHarp]

Nah Killa Big L would destroy Juelz no disrespect to Juelz but Big L to me was the best out of Harlem . I get why Killa said that tho that's his man's Dipset I respect you know I'm from the BX ya heard everybody in NY know wassup

[@johnstamos4325]

FACTS

[@marylandworld]

Mase. Cam'ron. Black Rob. G Dep. & Vado.

[@bummydavis6530]

Hanging out with Wayne completely ruined that nikka life....worst decision he ever made....he should have kept his ass in NYC around nikkas that only smoke greens and drink

[@DJ--ALLDAY]

🙄They hatin' Big Time because of differences with BiG L.. ain't no Dipset rapper including Cam over " L ".

[@Hu_Pac]

We’ll bring you back a hoe is crazzzyyyy cam is hilarious 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@goldentrophy7858]

In no order for me it's Kool moe Dee, Big L,Cam'ron,Mase and Aesop Rocky, honourable mention towards Jim Jones/Juelz

[@CameronBroadway]

Jim Jones was a hype man and he was trash.

[@elsavaldes2202]

Rocky numba 1 period

[@sayfurrazzaque6315]

Facts 💯💯💯💯💯

[@FlukitoTV]

They not gonna mention Loaded Lux? 😳… or we just talking song makers?

[@strictostrict]

Juelz over BIG L? Killa wilding

[@creativemindz3133]

“Juelz dip dip” Santana set set” Ik what happened to him, that smack got em 🤦🏾‍♂️ I still fuck wit him 😢

[@silversurfa3583]

50cent and max b is the reason juelz fell off 50 was dissing cam hard juelz tried not to pick sides so he became real close with Jim while Jim was getting slaughtered by max 07-08 was bad years for the dips

[@goobe72]

Juelz the same guy that said "im fly like an ostrich" lol his talent is greatly exaggerated. Better than L.. no way in hell.

[@blizzred2143]

Have you heard Already Home verses by Jay Z both of his verses are so trash that I can barely stand to listen to it.. look up the lyrics bro 😂 “Now these nigga's is mad, oh they call me a Camel But I mastered the drought, what the fuck I'm an animal Half-man half-mammal” - Jay Z bro this is beyond bad lmfao 😂

[@emeralddivine]

I don’t care how much music you got out … Big L was 10x better then Juelz 😵‍💫😵‍💫😵‍💫.. Drugz stopped it

[@Eshaper]

Big L is number one no doubt.

[@daddyfamlittle6262]

Fax! 💯

[@alexp8455]

💯 💯 💯

[@kennethwilliams8240]

What killed Juelz was the drug use when he started hanging around Lil Wayne hard because he picked up all of Wayne's drug habits and couldn't shake it on top of that his work ethic was in no comparison to Lil Wayne. This is why he is stuck in the and still talking about i can't feel my face.

[@TheCameron144]

What stop him is when he was beefing with hov and jay said ok you will never come out and he didn’t check the sub o dvd when they was beefing with jayz

[@broduscrowell537]

This is funny

[@njinhere]

Lean isn’t for east coat people

[@VenVile]

Everyone missed when Mase said "Canibus", or am I tripping???

[@JustinTatts]

What do you have to say now cam about Juelz not dropping? You need to worry about yourself he just dropped two massive hits back to back

[@0netyr]

How u not mention Dave east,Asap Rocky and even Max B this ninja buggn bee

[@hashtaghaze5697]

Jimmy deserves a spot jimmy been working mad hard and kept himself relevant

[@yunqtule]

theyyy not cool...jimmy became beter in his 30's Cam, mase jiuelz was all nice since teens ...Jim has great hustler ethic

[@restricted6364]

jimmy originally from brooklyn

[@cperkins5050]

Jimmy is cool. But he is not top 20 in Harlem.

[@hashtaghaze5697]

@@restricted6364 oh ok

[@hashtaghaze5697]

@@cperkins5050 it ain’t too many goats in Harlem tho.

[@kondodurham2599]

...Cam held him in his contract but nobody remembers that.

[@christianjames92]

The Jay falling out and Cam's ego I think hurt Juelz cause if Juelz was apart of the Ross, Jeezy, Neyo, Rhianna crop of artists Jay was pushing at Def Jam I think he would've been a mega star. I just think Jay didn't fuck with him because of the Cam and Jim affiliation so he didn't bring him on.

[@tmotivate]

Juelz ahead of Big L. This is what it looks like when your friends take up for you

[@HELPINGHAND03]

He friends with both of them …. I would agree with the Statement though Big L did need more time …. Big L a Hip Hop Legend for sure but it was another situation where people ain’t really appreciate him until he died