Jambareeqi's 2000's Disney Animated Villains Ranked Tier List

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Jambareeqi

Jambareeqi

Күн бұрын

I personally rank the Disney animated villains of the 2000's decade!

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@Jambareeqi
@Jambareeqi 3 жыл бұрын
Like I stated at the start of the video, some characters weren't going to count for this tier list. Trust me, I contemplated long and hard about which ones counted. None of these characters were excluded out of forgetfulness or neglect. There's a big difference between an antagonist and a full on villain, I had to be aware of that when picking who should compete in the rankings. Here are the reasons why certain characters weren't included on the list: GANTU While he is after Stitch, he's on a mission of safety for the galactic federation, so he's simply the film's antagonist - one who doesn't intervene until the finale at that. FOXY LOXY More of a school bully than a full on villain like Jafar or Ursula. Would be unfair to compare a school bully to criminals and evil sorcerers. ALIENS They maybe framed as threatening at first, but their actions are based on a misunderstanding. SCROOP He's more of a supporting henchman than anything. He might not be entirely loyal to John Silver, but he's still just his crew mate and doesn't end up becoming anything more than that in the story. The reason Doris counted was because she was a twist villain disguised as a minion, and her own evil plan was bigger than Bowler Hat Guy's revenge scheme. DENAHI Like the aliens, his actions are based on a misunderstanding.
@josepharmstrong1788
@josepharmstrong1788 3 жыл бұрын
I totally agree with you on these fronts. Scroop to me feels like an attempt to keep Long John Silver out of the Disney Villains rogue gallery because of Silver’s empathy. Thus, Scroop is my least favorite part of Treasure Planet.
@NicholasRSims
@NicholasRSims 3 жыл бұрын
What about the agent from Bolt ?
@1992disney
@1992disney 3 жыл бұрын
@@josepharmstrong1788 But he actually does serve an important purpose to the plot because since Treasure Planet is a sci-fi adaptation of Treasure Island, Scroop plays the role of the book's secondary villain, Israel Hands. Without him killing off Mr. Arrow during the black hole scene and getting Jim Hawkins blamed for Mr. Arrow's death afterwards, Silver would never have a legit reason to give his amazing and inspiring Makings of Greatness speech to Jim and that would ultimately never solidify his friendship with Jim, while also proving himself to be a great father figure for Jim, that Jim's real dad had failed to provide for, care about, and support his own son. And that certainly would never be enough to prove to the audience that Silver has so much humanity in him, truly does appreciate and believes in Jim and sees all the potential within him, And that Silver is really not so bad after all, making it difficult for the audience to want to hate and root against him. Those reasons that I stated prove that Scroop had every right to be in the movie and especially has to be in it because the heart of the movie is the relationship between Jim & Silver, and Scroop plays a key role in the movie's main theme. Therefore, Silver has a heart of gold and Scroop only has a black heart. So Scroop was never created as an excuse to make Silver look good and especially sympathetic.
@Jambareeqi
@Jambareeqi 3 жыл бұрын
@@NicholasRSims He's more of a general antagonist. Sure, he's not a nice person, but he's no criminal mastermind or oppressive force.
@EChacon
@EChacon 3 жыл бұрын
I know you didn't included the villains from Fantasia 2000 cause as you said it yourself some of the antagonists of the musical segments (the Firebird, The Black Triangles, etc.) are "antagonists" but what about the Jack and the Box from The Steadfast Tin Soldier segment he was a villain?
@BazTheStoryteller
@BazTheStoryteller 3 жыл бұрын
Kronk is a hilarious character. His delivery is spot on.
@diegobareno5820
@diegobareno5820 3 жыл бұрын
I just love how you give Rourke a deeper look rather than just calling him a cliched money grubbing villain.
@1992disney
@1992disney 3 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately, that's exactly what he feels like.
@TheITinFIT
@TheITinFIT 3 жыл бұрын
Slim isn’t a great villain, but I kind of wish they went with his original scheme: he was going to use all the cattle he rustled to storm the White House and declare himself President. Ridiculous, sure, but I admire how outlandish it is compared to the simplistic land grab plot.
@Jambareeqi
@Jambareeqi 3 жыл бұрын
I would have LOVED that scheme, it sounds way more fun! Kind of reminds me of the antagonist in "Porco Rosso"
@maldon3659
@maldon3659 3 жыл бұрын
My Ranking: 1.Yzma 2.Dr Facillier 3.Bowler Hat Guy & Doris 4.General Rourke 5.Alameda Slim 6.Keon
@Tombola1993
@Tombola1993 3 жыл бұрын
Gantu isn’t truly a villain either. He’s a threatening, gigantic and manipulative, yes, but he was mainly doing his job. Whether it involves reclaiming Stitch for the Grand Coincil Woman, or the other 625 Experiments for Hämsterviel, he is mainly a neutral character trying to make ends meat. But he does resort to violence sometimes when provoked.
@josepharmstrong1788
@josepharmstrong1788 3 жыл бұрын
Kron: That’s understandable, especially since the Carnators are WAY more effective as villains in their simplicity as hungry predators that can’t be reasoned with. Yzma: “How did we get here Kronk?” “Well you got me. By all accounts it doesn’t make any sense.” ;P Roark: My German roommate adores Atlantis and says that Roark and Milo represents the best and worst aspects of Americans and their culture. Long John Silver: One of the best Disney characters period. Slim: I am actually considering rewriting his villain song to focus more on how he uses flattery and soft language as a tool of persuasion as opposed to things like guns and branding iron. BHG: He totally foreshadowed the Brony phenomenon! Doris: She would make an excellent video game boss. Voodoo Man: He and Tiana KNOW each other as established by Tiana’s conversation with Navine, and how Facilier didn’t need any introductions to her in their confrontation, plus he eats at the diner she works at. Though I do understand what you mean, they’re only enemies by circumstances of random events and terrible planning skills. Still I really enjoy his animation, performance, and villain song.
@angelcastaneda529
@angelcastaneda529 3 жыл бұрын
This was such an incredible video. I got a bit teary eyed when it came to the Bowler Hat Guy part. Thank you Jam.
@IcyDiamond
@IcyDiamond 3 жыл бұрын
Angel Castaneda why’d you get tears eyed
@angelcastaneda529
@angelcastaneda529 3 жыл бұрын
The Fat Piranha Plant, because I was one of those people who used to say Meet the Robinsons was a silly movie, and over the years I have come to realize it is a pretty sad movie about second chances, that’s how I saw it anyway and the villain is an example of how damaging it could be for one person to be obsessed with failure rather than moving forward.
@jasminflores6935
@jasminflores6935 3 жыл бұрын
Silver being an S tier was incredibly deserved, heck, I'd make a tier even higher specifically for him and Frollo.
@LM_studios16
@LM_studios16 3 жыл бұрын
Yep
@LucarioBot
@LucarioBot 3 жыл бұрын
So S+ tier
@frogglen6350
@frogglen6350 3 жыл бұрын
I like how this tier lost video has effort in it
@megacrashthehedgehog5377
@megacrashthehedgehog5377 3 жыл бұрын
Nice to see someone give Bowler Hat Guy some praise for once. The guy's seriously underrated.
@thomaslamson299
@thomaslamson299 3 жыл бұрын
Good to see the Best Animation Boi still at it. Never stop my man
@zeldaqueenb3796
@zeldaqueenb3796 3 жыл бұрын
Bowler Hat guy is my favourite telling a frog to capture Lewis not realising the contradictions is comedy gold lol
@EChacon
@EChacon 3 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to your ranking on the 2010's Disney villains.
@Tombola1993
@Tombola1993 3 жыл бұрын
Jumba was originally classed a disney villain very early on, but he redeemed himself after being swayed into helping Stitch rescue Lilo. But he was no major threat, he just made 626 dangerous experiments illegally and was hired to retrieve Stitch, but was a loose cannon about it, but was trying to do his job, until he got fired and started to get carried away, guns a blazing, but slowly learns the meaning of family.
@starkillerproductions4645
@starkillerproductions4645 3 жыл бұрын
I don’t think I’ve ever been this early on a video of his
@bolbi1016
@bolbi1016 2 жыл бұрын
Bowler Hat Guy is *the* most underrated Disney villain imo
@HarryThomasPictures
@HarryThomasPictures 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome ranking Jam my ranking would be 1 Yzma 2 Kron 3 Shadow Man 4 John Silva 5 Alameda Slim 6 Commander Rourke 7 Dorris 8 Bowler Hat Guy
@Tombola1993
@Tombola1993 3 жыл бұрын
Also, Denahi was never a villain to begin with. His role as a supposed antagonist in Brother Bear revolves around a massive misunderstanding as he thought that Kenai was killed by the bear, not knowing what happened to Kenai yet. So he took it out of context basically.
@animationnerd2748
@animationnerd2748 3 жыл бұрын
So Jambareeqi since you did the 90s and 2000s Disney Villains I would love to see tier list videos for the 80s and 2010s Disney Villains
@Tombola1993
@Tombola1993 3 жыл бұрын
In regards to Kron’s arrogant, authoritarian and egocentric personality in Dinosaur, as well as a direct antagonist to Aladar, he could also serve as a rival male, which is totally natural in the animal kingdom anyway.
@BazTheStoryteller
@BazTheStoryteller 3 жыл бұрын
Dr Facilier may not be your cup of tea, but Keith David's performance is incredible.
@Jambareeqi
@Jambareeqi 3 жыл бұрын
I didn't say he's not my cup of tea. I really love him, I just have to objectively admit that he's flawed as an antagonist.
@IcyDiamond
@IcyDiamond 3 жыл бұрын
He also has the best Disney villain death
@MovesBooksSeries
@MovesBooksSeries 3 жыл бұрын
very nice video I like the editing of all of your videos, 👍
@joeyfields132
@joeyfields132 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome List!
@NicholasRSims
@NicholasRSims 3 жыл бұрын
Did you know someone named ColinLook back is doing a restrospective on Disney villains and he’s not just talking about Main ones ,but Major and Minor too and well also talk about original sources like the book the film is based , behind the scenes , appearances in theme parks and comics
@1992disney
@1992disney 3 жыл бұрын
And he's doing it in chronological order, from the earliest to the newest ones.
@NicholasRSims
@NicholasRSims 3 жыл бұрын
@@1992disney yeah and it took a long gap between Snow White and Pinocchio
@1992disney
@1992disney 3 жыл бұрын
@@NicholasRSims Because he wants to analyze each and every single one of them to in order to explain how Disney villains have evolved and changed over the years of the company's 90+ year history.
@NicholasRSims
@NicholasRSims 3 жыл бұрын
@@1992disney I wonder he’ll talk about the Heffalumps and Woozles from many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh ?
@Jayagebee
@Jayagebee 3 жыл бұрын
Rourke and Dr. Facilier are kind of each other’s opposites: Rourke: better motives but forgettable Dr. Facilier: weak motives but highly memorable!
@Fictionboy16
@Fictionboy16 3 жыл бұрын
Nice tier list. One tiny nitpick in the beginning is that you somehow count "one year" as "a few years", since it was in 2019 where you did your first tier list, and this is 2020. And it was surprising that not only did you have an "E-Tier" ranking because there is no E grade in school (although S-Tier is very common for "God-Tier"), but used TWO Meet the Robinsons villains on the list since I thought only the primary villain of each film would be including. Looking forward to your next tier list, even if it'll be another year (or few years)...
@Jambareeqi
@Jambareeqi 3 жыл бұрын
Dang, it was only last year that I made the last tier list? It felt ages ago xD
@LucarioBot
@LucarioBot 3 жыл бұрын
E tier is the bottom grade in schools in my country
@NicholasRSims
@NicholasRSims 3 жыл бұрын
Even through they were villains , John Sliver , Bowler Hat Guy and Amos from Fox and The Hound were still sympathic rather than being ptroytrayed as being vile , greddy and plan nasty ,John Silver was a father figure to Jim and was shown to have some standers such as refusing to shoot and beign disgusted with some of Scoop’s actions , BHG was very incompetant without Doris would have just thrown TP and eggs and was horrified at her true plan , Amos might have been a hunter but wasnt a pochar and did care for his dogs, all three were able to be rehabilliated at the end of the film and it helped they were with more evil unredeemable charcters , Scoop being a masic bully and outright murder something tha teven disgusts Johnn , Doris for using Goob for her plans and implied to kill him , The Bear while not evil per say it was dangerous and unlike the other animals couldnt talk
@toobadwaluigitime6402
@toobadwaluigitime6402 3 жыл бұрын
Good Video!
@taluca8474
@taluca8474 3 жыл бұрын
One thing that’s sad about Bowler Hat Guy is the way he acts as a villain. It’s like the stereotypical villain of a kid’s show. But the shocking truth is that in his backstory, he is Goob when he didn’t win that baseball game and just grown with so much anger towards Lewis that his anger didn’t get him adopted and it left him in the orphanage for years. So technically…Bowler Hat Guy is a villain who saw villains from kids shows, he’s kind of childish in a way
@Tombola1993
@Tombola1993 3 жыл бұрын
I also understand Dr. Calico wouldn't count on this list anyway, because he is a TV villain within Bolt. So overall, the character in general is just an actor.
@epache315
@epache315 Жыл бұрын
Dr.Facilier Jafar and Judge Frollo wearing Red Black and Purple Clothing ❤️🖤💜
@Avatar.and.PokemonFan2002
@Avatar.and.PokemonFan2002 3 жыл бұрын
Dinosaur: Agree Atlantis: Dosent have much of a backstory Treasure plant: Completely Agree Home on the range: he has nothing other then Music and rejection he is mostly a cookie cutter western guy outside of his musical abilities Meet the Robinson: Agree Doris: sounds great but it might be just a glitch Dr. Facilea: he also has not much backstory with him not having much Security |:| ( the best villains are the ones with a backstory in the style of Zuko or any other villain that has been Humility )
@fashionablechangeling1988
@fashionablechangeling1988 3 жыл бұрын
Facilier
@Jambareeqi
@Jambareeqi 3 жыл бұрын
Not every character needs to have a backstory explained . Heck, like I said in the video, Facilier's appeal comes from the mysterious ambiguity of his past, because what we don't know about him makes him creepy.
@Avatar.and.PokemonFan2002
@Avatar.and.PokemonFan2002 3 жыл бұрын
Jambareeqi Me: Meh I just like the villains with there origins reveal the best
@matheusalves9421
@matheusalves9421 3 жыл бұрын
I dont know if a consider Bowl Hat Guy and John Silver as villains. They are great characters of course, but they are more anti-heroes than villains. Anyway, the tierlist still pretty good XD I appreciate your ability to find good points even in the weaker ones.
@Jambareeqi
@Jambareeqi 3 жыл бұрын
An anti-hero is someone who sets out to do good in unorthodox ways. I wouldn't call ruining an orphan child's future or taking a captain's crew hostage "heroic". John and Bowler Hat Guy may have hearts deep down, but their roles in their respective films are villains.
@matheusalves9421
@matheusalves9421 3 жыл бұрын
Fair enough.
@Jambareeqi
@Jambareeqi 3 жыл бұрын
@@tylersyoutubechannel9404 While it is debatable whether Scroop counts, Bowler Hat Guy and John Silver are still villains. They perform acts of villainy (kidnapping, time manipulation, hijacking, threatening children). Just because they redeem themselves by the end and aren't as evil as other antagonists doesn't mean that they were never villains.
@Jambareeqi
@Jambareeqi 3 жыл бұрын
I gave my reasons for my choices, just let it go.
@martinloquendero1460
@martinloquendero1460 3 жыл бұрын
Buck Cluck should be in the F tier.
@zackrules4797
@zackrules4797 2 жыл бұрын
He's not exactly the villain of the movie. (I wish he could have)
@NicholasRSims
@NicholasRSims 3 жыл бұрын
How would you rank Gantu from Lilo and Stitch ?
@Avatar.and.PokemonFan2002
@Avatar.and.PokemonFan2002 3 жыл бұрын
My Fennkin: how disappointing 😒 My Piplup: Jamberic why 🥺
@Jambareeqi
@Jambareeqi 3 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't say he's a villain in the first film. While he is after Stitch, he's on a mission of safety for the galactic federation, so he's simply the film's antagonist - one who doesn't intervene until the finale at that. In the sequels and TV shows, when he starts working for Dr. Jacques von Hämsterviel, he becomes a villain, and I do find him to be entertaining one! An imposing foil for Lilo & Stitch, but we also sympathise with his daily struggles since losing his old job.
@NicholasRSims
@NicholasRSims 3 жыл бұрын
So How come There’s a phrase of Disney’s Rouge Gallery but other movie studios or tv networks don’t get one such as a Warner Bros Rouge Gallery or Nickelodeon Rouge Gallery ?
@BlueboiiiTheNerd
@BlueboiiiTheNerd 3 жыл бұрын
What would've made Bowler Hat Guy better is that if Jim Carrey said yes to the role instead of doing The Number 23.
@Jambareeqi
@Jambareeqi 3 жыл бұрын
Nah, Stephen Anderson is perfect as Goob! I wish he did more voice acting
@EChacon
@EChacon 3 жыл бұрын
@@Jambareeqi He did do voice acting as Kai in Frozen and its Sequel
@SPCMovies
@SPCMovies 2 жыл бұрын
@@Jambareeqi Jim Carrey would still be funny as BHG
@sjmhadsock4586
@sjmhadsock4586 2 жыл бұрын
I heard one of the treasure planet creators say we done enough fantasyland movies and let's do an adventureland movie
@NicholasRSims
@NicholasRSims 3 жыл бұрын
I could never pronounce the villain name from Atlantis
@ANDCFC95
@ANDCFC95 2 жыл бұрын
How about Dr. Phillium Benedict, from Recess:School’s Out?
@zackrules4797
@zackrules4797 2 жыл бұрын
My Ranked of the 2000s Disney Villains. 10. Kazar 9. Kron 8. Alameda Slim 7. Scroop 6. Commander Rourke 5. Dorris 4. Bowler Hat Guy 3. Yzma 2. Dr. Facilier 1. Long John Silver
@lukeboice5962
@lukeboice5962 3 жыл бұрын
What about the mad scientist from the Teacher's Pet movie? That movie was animated and realized in theaters in the 2000's.
@Jambareeqi
@Jambareeqi 3 жыл бұрын
The rule was that the films had to be made by Walt Disney Animation Studios, not that they had to be released in theaters. "Teacher's Pet: The Movie" was made by their television division, not their main animation studio.
@lukeboice5962
@lukeboice5962 3 жыл бұрын
@@Jambareeqi Alright. But I do want to see you review the Teachers Pet movie in the future.
@epache315
@epache315 Жыл бұрын
Judge Frollo:Dr.Facilier Welcome to Our Family Dr.Facilier:Indeed I Am Jafar:Dr.Facilier You're One of Us
@sapphirewriter8349
@sapphirewriter8349 3 жыл бұрын
Pixar and Dreamworks villains go!
@janiceandgonzogirl10
@janiceandgonzogirl10 3 жыл бұрын
Could you make a tier list for DreamWorks Villian's please
@lucasgreen9821
@lucasgreen9821 3 жыл бұрын
How about those villain from movies that are considered Disney ripoff like Quest for Camelot, Anastasia, Titan AE and many more I hope you will plz consider this
@diegofabricio9735
@diegofabricio9735 3 жыл бұрын
You forgot the aliens from Chicken Little in this tier list
@Jambareeqi
@Jambareeqi 3 жыл бұрын
I didn't forget. Like I said at the start of the video, some characters don't count as Disney villains.
@camstileprogram
@camstileprogram 3 жыл бұрын
Buck cluck is the main villain
@camstileprogram
@camstileprogram 3 жыл бұрын
@@tylersyoutubechannel9404 why you lying
@lavenderflowersfall280
@lavenderflowersfall280 Жыл бұрын
I can't wait for Alameda Slim to be at the top he's my favorite.
@mrjh3484
@mrjh3484 3 жыл бұрын
You should do disney vilains of the 2010s
@jge8144
@jge8144 3 жыл бұрын
Lol, it's funny you'd mention Uncle Slim lifting his glasses to read. Because why would he take his glasses off, isn't the whole point of them is to READ better?🤣
@Jambareeqi
@Jambareeqi 3 жыл бұрын
He most likely doesn't need glasses to read, so it makes sense why he'd need to lift them. It's one of the reasons why the costume just isn't that well thought out.
@projp9057
@projp9057 3 жыл бұрын
¡All right!
@lucasgreen9821
@lucasgreen9821 3 жыл бұрын
Why wasn't Gantu, or Jumba not on this list weren't they 2000 Lilo and Stitch?
@Jambareeqi
@Jambareeqi 3 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't say he's a villain in the first film. While he is after Stitch, he's on a mission of safety for the galactic federation, so he's simply the film's antagonist - one who doesn't intervene until the finale at that. In the sequels and TV shows, when he starts working for Dr. Jacques von Hämsterviel, he becomes a villain, and I do find him to be entertaining one! An imposing foil for Lilo & Stitch, but we also sympathise with his daily struggles since losing his old job.
@ultrairrelevantnobody1862
@ultrairrelevantnobody1862 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Jam, since Lilo and Stitch is one of your favourite Disney films, ever thought about making videos related to the TV show? Quite the fun cartoon.
@Jambareeqi
@Jambareeqi 3 жыл бұрын
@@ultrairrelevantnobody1862 Oh totally, maybe one day
@sonysfan19992
@sonysfan19992 3 жыл бұрын
Why there isn't Gantu?
@hiattgrey9161
@hiattgrey9161 Жыл бұрын
Honestly, I still think that the Carnotaurs is the true villains in "Dinosaur". Kron just wasn't a very interesting villain to me as a kid, because he's just a typical jerk leader.
@yudcrazy4964
@yudcrazy4964 3 жыл бұрын
Is this just me or Commander Rourke looks bit similar to Negan both face and character??
@1992disney
@1992disney 3 жыл бұрын
Why did you exclude Scroop from Treasure Planet from this list? He's a legit villain too and a really scary one at that. Not only are his appearance and voice so terrifying, but his misdeeds and personality are spine-chilling as well. Sure he doesn't get that much screentime, but that doesn't mean he's not memorable. He's sadistic, blood-thirsty, merciless, loathing, cruel, cold-hearted, psychopathic, and most of all, evil. When we first see him, he confronts the protagonist, Jim Hawkins, and accuses him of eavesdropping on some of John Silver's pirates. Then Jim insults and intimidates him, which instantly makes Scroop want Jim dead. When he tries to kill Jim on the spot, Silver comes in and saves Jim from being slaughtered by the "spider psycho". Mr. Arrow lectures Scroop for attempting a fight with Jim, in which Silver gives Scroop the death stare, which also shows Scroop's hatred toward authority figures like Mr. Arrow. Then during the black hole scene, when Mr. Arrow gets knocked off the RLS Legacy but is saved from falling into the black hole thanks to his own lifeline, Scroop takes the perfect opportunity to murder him and succeeds in doing so by cutting off his lifeline, making him be sucked into the black hole while he screams in doom without anyone ever looking or even noticing, except for Silver, and gets Jim falsely blamed for Mr. Arrow's tragic and untimely demise, since it was his duty to secure all the lifelines on the ship, making Jim feel so miserable and guilty about it. During the scene when Jim hides in a purp barrel in Silver's kitchen in the ship's galley and overhears about the mutiny, Silver calls Scroop out on his senseless act, while Scroop tries to humiliate Silver for his affection towards Jim in front of his entire pirate crew, which makes Silver immediately deny it. Finally when Jim sneaks back on the ship to retrieve the real map to Treasure Planet and B.E.N. accidentally sets off the ship's alarm while trying to find the right plug that disables the ship's cannons, alerting Scroop of Jim's presence on the ship, in which he pursues Jim in an attempt to murder him. Then B.E.N. accidentally pulls another wrong plug that makes all the lights on the ship go out for at least a minute and when the lights are restored, Scroop takes the chance of doing a surprise attack on Jim from behind and has him cornered. Then B.E.N. pulls yet another wrong plug that ends up disabling the ship's anti-gravity generator, causing both Jim and Scroop to crash through the deck floor and float up into space. Scroop latches onto the ship's support beam to save himself from floating away and Jim manages to do the same by grabbing and holding onto the pirate flag. Then Scroop tries to kill Jim the same way he killed Mr. Arrow by sawing off the rope that holds the pirate flag in place. But thanks to Jim's quick-thinking, he manages to get Scroop trapped in the flag, which causes the rope that Scroop was trying to slice off to break, making him float up into deep space while he screams in doom, never to be seen or heard from again. And for those reasons alone, I would definitely put him in the A Tier.
@Jambareeqi
@Jambareeqi 3 жыл бұрын
Scroop is more of a supporting character than a villain, that's why he wasn't included. Heck, I'd categorize him as a henchman even.
@1992disney
@1992disney 3 жыл бұрын
@@Jambareeqi But a lot of people actually categorize him as a secondary antagonist. In fact, he's the movie's real villain because unlike Silver, he's irredeemable, he kills people without having any second thoughts just because they pissed him off, and he doesn't have any good in him whatsoever. He does many things that Silver would never ever do, even if he did try. Silver has a conscious while Scroop doesn't have one at all. That's what gives us an interesting and complex contrast between the two bad guys. One is bad, but not completely, while the other is bad all the through and evil for the sake of being evil. So Scroop still had every right to be on the list, whether he's the main villain or not.
@farlong4948
@farlong4948 3 жыл бұрын
1992disney Yeah, I totally have to agree with you here. I personally think Scroop is the best character in that film, and I honestly wish he actually WERE the true main villain-the same way Doris was the true main villain of Meet the Robinsons-and had a lot more screen time, particularly near the end; instead of just axing him off and basically acting as though nothing happened (getting him out of the way, pretty much), he should have been part of the film’s actual climax and have had some sort of confrontation with Silver, and THEN we could’ve had that battle with him and Jim that you just described. Bottom line, I think Scroop is awesome and he should have been the real main villain and have had a much bigger role in the story. Silver’s a good character too, though.
@1992disney
@1992disney 3 жыл бұрын
@@farlong4948 Actually, Treasure Planet is a sci-fi adaptation of Treasure Island and Scroop is the sci-fi version of the book's secondary villain, Israel Hands.
@farlong4948
@farlong4948 3 жыл бұрын
1992disney I know, but it already takes a lot of artistic liberties with it taking place in space and in a weird Steampunk fantasy world with flying sailing ships, alien pirates, and a female captain who happens to be part cat, so I don’t think upping Scroop’s role would be too far-fetched here. Besides, they’ve already upped his role significantly by having him be the one to kill off Mr. Arrow instead of Silver (In the book, Silver gets Mr. Arrow drunk on a stormy night, and he falls overboard), so why stop there? I think upping his villainous role (particularly at the climax) would really bring the interesting and complex contrast between him and Silver to the forefront in an epic and exciting way, much like the scene where Scroop confronts Silver about his affection for Hawkins.
@sonysfan19992
@sonysfan19992 3 жыл бұрын
7 Keon 6 Alameda Slim 5 General Rourke 4 Hat bowler guy and Doris 3 Dr Facilier 2 Yzma 1 John Silver
@ethanco453
@ethanco453 3 жыл бұрын
Please do Pixar villains
@emmataylor5723
@emmataylor5723 Жыл бұрын
the 2000ins was a weird time for disney
@epache315
@epache315 Жыл бұрын
I Think Dr.Facilier He Does Have Some Of Judge Frollo and Jafar in him. ❤️🖤💜🔥🃏🧞‍♂️
@lucasgreen9821
@lucasgreen9821 3 жыл бұрын
Pixar Villains would be nice to so I hope you'll consider that aswell please
@TrollsbandtogetherFan350
@TrollsbandtogetherFan350 3 жыл бұрын
Best Carnotaur Worst Kazar
@thirdplanet4471
@thirdplanet4471 3 жыл бұрын
Not gonna lie l always thought that Captain Silver was Jim's father
@1992disney
@1992disney 3 жыл бұрын
He's not a captain. He's just a leader of a gang of pirates. He was never even referred to that in the book that Treasure Planet was based on, Treasure Island, either.
@henrik6739
@henrik6739 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting theory...
@1992disney
@1992disney 3 жыл бұрын
@@henrik6739 Silver is not Jim's biological dad. So it's a dumb theory because it makes no sense at all.
@jasminflores6935
@jasminflores6935 3 жыл бұрын
@@1992disney In the movie, he *IS* their captain. Go to 1:02 mark of this clip kzbin.info/www/bejne/e5K5eph-fNOngqs The dude at the crow's nest clearly replies to Silver "With pleasure, Captain"
@1992disney
@1992disney 3 жыл бұрын
@@jasminflores6935 You're right, but that was only right after they had a mutiny and seized control of the RLS Legacy because long before that, none of Silver's crew ever called him captain.
@IcyDiamond
@IcyDiamond 3 жыл бұрын
How about the 2010’s Disney villains
@1992disney
@1992disney 3 жыл бұрын
I would definitely put Hans from Frozen in the F Tier. He's such a crappy and overrated twist villain and he actually had no valid reason to be one to begin with. His motivations make no sense and he doesn't do a very good job at executing his so-called evil plan. Elsa really should've been the villain instead. In fact, she was going to be the exact same kind of villain that John Silver from Treasure Planet is. But then Let It Go happened and the rest was history.
@IcyDiamond
@IcyDiamond 3 жыл бұрын
1992disney I dislike Callahan even more
@1992disney
@1992disney 3 жыл бұрын
@@IcyDiamond Nah. I find Hans worse than him.
@EChacon
@EChacon 3 жыл бұрын
@@1992disney Even it feels baffling to have CellSpex ranked him way higher than Bowler Hat Guy (Goob), Callaghan, and Bellwether, when literally the latter three plot twists made sense
@LucarioBot
@LucarioBot 3 жыл бұрын
@@EChacon celly only ranked hans one spot above bellwether and she included how good the placements are from a message perspective and hans manipulates anna the same way real life abusers do so meaning it really isn't that surprising all I can think of is that you didn't pay attention to what she was saying or you just looked at the placements not really caring about the reasons
@1992disney
@1992disney 3 жыл бұрын
I disagree with Rourke from Atlantis being in the A Tier because he just isn't that memorable nor interesting in the slightest. His motivation doesn't seem to make any sense. Stealing something from the Atlanteans that's actually vital to them and the sole reason how they've managed to stay alive for thousands of years just to auction it off for an insane amount of profit is just pointless because, he and the entire expedition crew could've just taken lots of pictures to prove to the world that Atlantis really does exist and could've gotten filthy rich that way. They could've even used their own Atlantean crystal necklaces that they brought home with them like they did at the end of the movie for further proof as well. It would've been a much better and especially smarter method. So they didn't need to go as far as taking something important away from a lost ancient civilization in order to make a quick buck. Rourke didn't even need to be a villain to begin with. The whole expedition crew excluding Milo, of course, didn't need to be mercenaries. Not every single Disney movie has to have any villains, you know. Not every single sci-fi and adventure one has to have some either. And the rest of the crew that have a change of heart and side with Milo near the end of the movie just doesn't feel natural nor believable because due to the movie's bad pacing, it doesn't give that much time for the important characters to develop properly. So it makes it hard for the audience to sympathize, care about, and root for them. It also doesn't help that the movie has too many characters to focus on. Even their backstories aren't enough to make them memorable. There's just not enough of the journey to Atlantis part either, which should've been the part when the characters begin to get along and have and develop their friendship with Milo. But they barely did that.
@carrbender
@carrbender 3 жыл бұрын
Easy, it’s Facilier, Yzma, and... those other guys
@LM_studios16
@LM_studios16 3 жыл бұрын
But John Silver really isn’t a villain!
@LucarioBot
@LucarioBot 2 жыл бұрын
Then why does John silver have a page on the villains wiki? With scroop being listed under John silver’s crew
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