Jamelle Bouie - Op-Ed Columnist For The Nyt

[@KathrynTanner-t8f]

Al, I'm one of many many people who lost power thanks to Hurricane Helene. It's too hot to sleep, so I'm sitting in my car, charging my phone. I treated myself to a little computer time (even though I'm trying to save all kinds of power) and you popped up! Lots of scary things in your podcast tonight, but a relief for a minute from my personal problems. Of course, America's problems are my problems as well. Thanks anyway. Fascinating discussion with Mr. Buie.

[@ileneragland369]

Hope everything is better now. And no problems getting back to normal. I'm praying for all of you on the southeast coast ,inland too!

[@rhondah1587]

I feel for you and those affected by the hurricane. I live in south Louisiana and know how awful suffering through that type of storm is for tons of people. Heard my state is sending help. Hope you all get yourselves back on track soon.

[@AlvaSudden]

Hey out there! We care about you. It will be all right. I was just looking at the stars and wondering how nice the sky would look if we lost power here. Not to minimize your difficulty, but the Earth is still there and America is still ready to help.

[@NoDJT]

I love this guy. This is the first time I've heard Jamelle Bouie speak! Maybe we can get the filibuster done next year when we no longer have Manchin & Sinema. I still hope you decide to return to the Senate, Al. Sanity is always in fashion, especially now.

[@MsFarrob]

@BeatTrump ❤ I agree 100%. I'm a new fan of Mr. Bouie. I hope Al has him back again.

[@AaronBoone-x6c]

@@NoDJT if Manchun is gone, the Senate flips red. It will take another two years to have a chance if this happens.

[@AlvaSudden]

Jamelle Bouie is one of the sane folks. I avoid the New York Times however because they are so obviously pulling for Trump to win.

[@cassandratq9301]

As a born + raised Minnestoan (AZ now), I was both delighted and unsurprised to learn that we wouldn't have had the benefit of Tim Walz without Al Franken.

[@AaronBoone-x6c]

I really love this podcast. These are amazing interviews. A little on the short side, but I’m needy.

[@karenhunter1090]

Isn't it WEIRD that both Trump and JD have immigrant wives?

[@texasbluebonnet4303]

Weird in that what is good for them is not good for other people. They are obviously full of hot air spreading hate, just like Trump.

[@LMM7880]

Actually JD's wife was born in the States. Her parents are immigrants.

[@hereigoagain5050]

We need immigrant women to fill those jobs that American women will not do.

[@snowmonster42]

​@@hereigoagain5050You mean marry Republican men? Lol

[@aerialarboreal9005]

Wives who moved their entire families over before denouncing chain migration... 💙💙

[@stevejohnson2321]

This pod consistently rises above the level of mediocrity. I might need to raise it in my estimation. Ya know....for a change...😂

[@lohphat]

Too late. I cancelled my NYT subscription. The opener claimed they can’t call out GOP lies because that would be partisan. Journalism’s dead at the NYT.

[@patriciaadams4171]

I'M DISABLED SENIOR HALF MY MEDICAL PROVIDERS ARE IMMIGRANTS

[@deselby6669]

I hope they are taking good care of you Patricia..

[@manita2653]

Thank goodness for each of the doctors I’ve needed when I lived in England and have had for several years here in USA. The only doctors that act like true doctors are those who are Immigrants. They actually LISTEN to my needs; they ask relevant questions and they read my medical history. These medical professionals are empathetic and respectful. They are not afraid to actually examine my body and see where the actual pain or discomfort is coming from. They follow the Hippocratic oath. It is an Oath of Ethics sworn by every medical Practitioner. I believe most American doctors have forgotten what it means to have received a medical certificate and sworn an Oath. Most doctors act like they’re doing us a favor by treating us. Most doctors refuse to answer legitimate questions about our healthcare and the drugs they are injecting into our bodies with disastrous consequences. Ironically having lived in Europe and South America and knowing people from Africa and the Philippines…they presume that doctors in USA are tops… that their treatment is outstanding. When they actually see how we are treated they are dumbfounded, they are so disappointed that the American medical community over all is walking into an area full of ‘land mines’ as you enter you are holding your breath and praying to get to your destination without getting killed. I am not speaking only hearsay…I have lived it. Members of my close family young and elderly have died from neglect and misdiagnosis. It is very frightening. A sad statement. I feel blessed that finally I have found an Immigrant Specialist who is willing to help me. It is early days, yet I am hopeful! My pain is constant and as high as it can be without being hospitalized. The meds is useless…so once again I have another consultation in a couple of days. My body cannot handle much more. Ironically if an animal suffers greatly it will be gently given a dose and quietly without suffering it will pass away. But a human being who has been in extreme pain for 7 years is given one procedure or another… is injected with steroids, ketamine and who knows what else… one becomes a Guinea pig…each ‘specialist’ seeing how he can charge what knowing he’s/she’s not going to help because they’re not bothering to study the whole case. We are a bother. I finally asked my GP a few months ago, when…at what point in our experience are we treated as obsolete and ignored?! He was dumbfounded that I asked such a thing. I share my story in the hope there are Medical Practitioners that still care about a patient. And that this practitioner will find it in his/her heart to take 5 minutes to listen and actually try assisting. All we each need is a quality of care and life so we can feel we are valued and that we matter and that we have a purpose! Thank you.

[@lyledal]

If they can't get rid of the filibuster, then they need to bring back the talking filibuster. Make the Republicans have to stand up and read Green Eggs and Ham for 20 hours or more. We'll be able to get legislation passed again.

[@bbirda1287]

Filibuster by email just makes it too damn easy, make em work for it if they care about an issue that much.

[@kathrynjones6328]

Jane Mayer wrote a very enlightening article about the whole Al-cancelling debacle-if everyone knew about it, I think he could run and win again! Al did what he thought was the honorable thing stepping down, unlike so many pols these days who actually DID do something wrong. We want you back, Al!!!

[@shoshanahalle9259]

And Vance is a Senator supposedly representing ALL Ohioans

[@michaelstrickland6035]

MLK on acid? Robinson is more like MLK on bath salts.

[@jamesleonard2870]

Firing squad, cigarette, no blindfold was what I wanted for my son born in San Francisco. But at the last minute my wife decided to keep the baby. I didn’t think to ask who would shoot the rifles or where. Al, you ask tough but fair questions 🌊🌊🌊🏄‍♀️🏄‍♂️

[@aprilcalhoun8984]

I challenge anyone who talks about believing in post birth abortion to call their local police non emergency number and ask how legal it is.

[@Lu_Woods]

I didn't have Leo Kotke played through a phaser on my bingo card.

[@iemy2949]

It’s time. You know. For a change.

[@riqpate7122]

Many gracias for that !

[@cherylgibson7038]

Knowingly lying is more than weird! It’s immoral and unethical!!

[@bbirda1287]

Welcome to the republican party. Suppressing voters since they figured out it worked.

[@frankho99]

The secret service announcement is more than idiotic.

[@NathanCroucher]

wait what? That has to be an Al joke....

[@mw354]

I’m sorry. You can put any disguise you want on Trump’s face. The physique is a dead giveaway.

[@catbb1000]

I was thinking the same. Hard to hide a 🐋. 😂

[@eerohorila1109]

I hope his disguise is a clown costume. That would be accurate😂

[@paulgrieger8182]

He looks like a Vogon, and I'm certain that his poetry is horrible.

[@moocrazytn]

Not to mention his strange gait.

[@January.]

DESPICABLE. NOT WEIRD.

[@JamesReichert-h5v]

Can we also point out that tariffs on Chinese goods will include not only tariffs on finished products that we buy, but also tariffs on inputs for products manufactured in the United States. The company I worked for accelerated the offshoring of a US-made device to Singapore because of the Trump tariffs.

[@RichardReddick-mh7rz]

good discussion.

[@cassandratq9301]

Why those ads about Social Security + Medicare aren't running 24/7 is beyond me.

[@rhondah1587]

It can't be stressed enough that the public needs clear and concise explanations of how tariffs work and who pays what because trump has told millions of people that foreign countries will be paying the U.S. government money for imposing such tariffs. He tells them we will be taxing foreign countries which is so blatantly false and misleading. People are buying what he says because they have no idea what tariffs are or why sometimes they are good for U.S. businesses to compete in the market but not for raising revenue for the government.

[@cassandratq9301]

They nominated Robinson largely because Trump endorsed him.

[@NoSacredCowFla]

Thanks Al and Jamelle! You know, for Joy and change.

[@cassandratq9301]

Hogan was only a "good Governor " because the Maryland Legislature overrode all his bad initiatives.

[@cassandratq9301]

Walz will wipe the floor with Vance.

[@cherylgibson7038]

Thank you for sharing this very interesting conversation. So happy to know, also, that there is a reasonable voice at the NYT! I canceled my e-subscription to the NYT when it obviously started to favor trump - maybe 9 months ago.

[@manita2653]

Thank you Al for bringing Truth and Light to our hurting world . VOTE BLUE 💙🔷💙🇺🇸🔷💙🔷🇺🇸

[@Bluespower1792]

Ask people if they'd be willing to pay $20 a pound for oranges once we deport all the migrant farm workers. People could put the lie to so many of Trump's "ideas" by just asking the question "What happens then...."

[@porterlockwood2032]

Al and team, I haven’t started listening yet but already I am thrilled you are featuring THIS NYT Op-ed writer. They continue to employ one who has deeply failed at being a responsible voice. I am baffled as to how such a person could continue to be given a platform. Yes, I am referring to you, Michelle Goldberg. Off I go to listen to this one which I am sure will be a great one.

[@trentchaffee5185]

I have great respect for Al and Jamelle! Thank you for this episode!

[@aerialarboreal9005]

Migrants are willing to do anyting to start a life in America and picking fruit is one of those jobs, a job most American's won't do... So my question is this... If Tr*mp deports 30 million people (give or take), who is going to pick the tomatoes to make all of the ketchup he puts on his food? (and walls)... Love you Al... Please conside coming back... 💙

[@ssgtmole8610]

Instead of running on universal healthcare - which would have passed if Roosevelt had survived to the end of WWII - we should stress universal citizenship education. I don't remember having a class called civics when I went through junior high and high school in the 1970s. There was Model UN as an afterschool program, but that shows you how screwed up the UN is - it doesn't tell you how america works politically. The rumor mill was constantly saying, "Your vote doesn't count" when I was growing up. Nothing was effectively counteracting that, and no one was trying to track down where that nonsense was coming from. No one is informed that Congress is written into the US Constitution to be hobbled and slow by white, landed gentry, who didn't mind viewing human beings as cattle/rabble/unruly mobs or owning them as slaves. I found that out after graduating high school - that should have been in my junior high texts. I had a class in high school called Buying a House. We should have had one for running for congress and passing a bill. Instead, I learned the bill part as a Saturday morning cartoon - along with reminding me about conjunctions. If the species is smart enough to learn about bills being in committee by musical animation, then we should be able to follow how the rest of the government works in a teacher led class. But both parties want to keep that a mystery apparently so we as "citizens" don't worry our pretty little heads about it. 🙄

[@ileneragland369]

I had Civics class in high school. Basically how government works.

[@ileneragland369]

In the mid 60's in high school I had Civics class.

[@hereigoagain5050]

I had civics in US history classes in middle-school and high school.

[@snazzybean]

In the 70s we were given a choice around 8th grade between Civics and World History; I took Civics.

[@SharonSmith-c3l]

Great show!

[@MH-ni6ye]

Great episode. Thanks from Canada. Vote blue.

[@robertgreybeard1432]

Great, all the time!

[@marshallboice4629]

I love Jamelle!

[@direwolf6234]

on tariffs the important part was never mentioned .. so if the 'typical' family pays an extra $4000/year .. where exactly does the money go ?? does it make its way into the US treasury ? and then who decides how and where does it get spent .. ? only telling us that it is bad and leaving out the other 'detail' doesn't make it an explanation .. we expect more from this analysis ..

[@moonmunster]

Yep, the gov collects the tariff and then it will be given to Trump. Who else would get it?

[@robynrains7252]

I’m irritated as I was an Essential Worker during Covid. There was some talk about rewarding employees who had to work but nothing was done. 🤷‍♀️

[@stevejohnson2321]

💙

[@YABBAHEY1]

Another great one AL. It's worth considering Independents & undecided voters are people who like their business to remain their business. Yet don't automatically hang up on pollsters for some strange reason. I've always felt polls are conducted to check areas for specific party campaign concentration thus skewed to begin with. (Other words BS.) They bore me as time fillers vs good reporting. Appreciate Jamelle's reluctance to engage on the subject. MAGA's strike me as people who see the country like a barn on fire & think, "Welp, we've never tried gasoline to fight it."

[@ellenlockhart4494]

Years ago, it was said that if you want to round up a thousand illegal aliens, go to a rugby game at Celtic Park in the Bronx.

[@genearmfield5814]

Al it seems to me and I'm supposing the most sentient people who want to listen and learn more about the situation that you are not wasting your or the Listener's investment opportunities to be better informed by your timely considerstion and dedicated understanding to share your viewpoints with the inquisitive people of Minnesota and the US citizenry. I have been quite impressed by the fact that an avowed Republican who's been living in suburban Hennepin county MN and voted for the former guy in '16 and then the current president in '20 but didn't want to like or listen to you prior to a few episodes ago has started to really focus on the situation and although she's still Lutheran it seems that your getting gooder analysis and excellent topics with substantially informed guests have converted her to pursue increasingly realistic political viewpoints. Keep up the good work and keep on keeping on. Remember that we're all in this together and there are substantially more of the US citizenry that wants to be represented by a competent set of political officeholders than not. Selah

[@clarafedde8674]

That one guy in Nebraska was the deciding vote...maine now is ditching their split...way to go Lindsey Graham

[@susanstever1270]

💙💙

[@williamhosp701]

The guy mentioned about Nebraska reportedly wants to run for mayor of Omaha, so Lindsey Graham couldn't get past that. Thank God!

[@riqpate7122]

Wow. I've been toying with adding great papers/Atlantic to my subscription accounts. Mr Boille ? just made NYT the 1st. choice.

[@riqpate7122]

Mr Jamelle Bouie.

[@DangerDave-e7u]

Don't listen to polls. They just ask whoever is standing around in the parking lot at the time.

[@LambieSamba]

I try to make the repugs think they are winning by LYING each time I am asked, saying I would vote for the mango cheato tRump, I would DIE before voting for ANY repug running ,especially djt!

[@susanschaffner4422]

I love ya, Al, but let your guest speak.

[@marshallboice4629]

How do you stay sane working at the NYTs? What's your secret Jamelle?

[@bbirda1287]

Yuval Noah Harari was on Real Time and knocked it out of the park, so knowledgeable and thoughtful. Please consider him for a guest from some rando on youtube.

[@larrymages9304]

Maine and Nebraska both split their electors in the same fashion. The Nebraska Politician that said NO was once a Democrat, switched parties but has ambitions to run as Mayor of Omaha, a very blue city. He would get crushed if he voted to change how the electors are allocated. The Republicans tried to pull a fast one. They waited to try to do this after Maine would be able to do the same thing. (Maine has a 90 day delay on any law changes). I think in its next session Maine needs to change how they allocate electors to neutralize what the Republicans in Nebraska will eventually do in regards to changing how they allocate their electors. This will prevent this drama in the future.

[@arlenestanton9955]

Al has to be the smartest person in the room.

[@Blonde111]

The lying liars that lie…

[@MarciaMatthews]

SNL cold open was a laugh.

[@joanhyde1745]

Teaching people through ads is not demagoguery, and letting people know what happens in the economy when large changes happen regarding tariffs is a drift to the populace.

[@cherylgibson7038]

💙🇺🇸⭐️

[@knavishlassie]

"Weird" is far too mild a term to use to describe the despicable, indefensible acts that are being described here.

[@larrymages9304]

I was in total agreement with everything Jamal said until he spoke about “time” as an additional consideration He states if one party wins in successive elections “that should count”. ( it feels like he’s implying that they have a mandate because they won several elections cycles in a row). The fallacy of his argument is two fold. Currently there is extreme gerrymandering of districts in predominantly conservative controlled states. Where in some instances even though a state’s population is roughly 50/50 Republicans/Democrats because of gerrymandering the Republicans get more than 60% of the the house seats. The other fallacy of his argument is the Senate is undemocratic. Montana with roughly 1.1 million people gets two senators. California with roughly 39.5 million people gets two senators. A persons vote for senator in Montana counts roughly 39.5 times more than a persons vote for Senator in California. So in both the House and the Senate the election of members of Congress is skewed towards Republicans. Jamal is an intelligent man. He needs to reconsider this assumption. Maybe his next article?

[@paulbrunner6098]

Make a call. John Hamm will do it. You have manifested synchronized serendipity.

[@TwylaMeding]

I like both of you, but I find that this is too much about the horserace and not enough about the stakes.

[@FemFlorida]

I was Born in East LA 1987 Creech Marin

[@muhammadabdullah-bu9wi]

😊

[@mikedee-oq1ir]

people do not want immigrants 20 million is the current number reagan amnesty for 10 million this does not help

[@paulclissold1525]

Nyt an ego too large for our times.

[@gjnelsonandco]

20th!

[@cassandratq9301]

Since Trump announced his intention to depart the legal Springfield immigrants, not sure your headline is accurate.

[@OneWanderer2]

Why Hulk Hogan? Well, Al and Jamelle must not have watched World Wide Wrestling / WWE when Hulk performed and when Trump was buddy-buddy with Vince and Linda McMahon - appeared at WWE events. Even in the ring. I didn't watch WWE either. But the WWE audience loved Trump - and Trump found a big component of his MAGA base.

[@phriedokra6158]

Perhaps hes gleaning from his personal experience and Melania actually had another baby but then decided to off it after it was delivered because....well one self centered over coiffed FLOTUS cant look at fashion magazines and care for an Infant too CAN YOU???

[@davidwitzany5852]

3:32

[@simonolsen9995]

One of the Knights Who Say Nyt?

[@ateamfan42]

Interrupting this discussion every two minutes with ads makes things very hard to follow. I understand some ads are necessary in our ad-laden modern society, but this video is redonkulous

[@hazellove2144]

😊🧡💫🕊🫂

[@cassandratq9301]

Verbal intro...

[@christopherdaly1399]

I like AL and Leo kotke but your intro is so lame. That whole "for a change thing " - not funny. And really that bit from Leo Kotke is not his best 🙄. Why am I typing this on my little keyboard? Utoob comment section. Kinda a waste of time.

[@QTEPYE]

An idea of disquise, for donald, to aide U. S. Secret Service, when he is on the golf course. Recommend donald look and move athletic; have and display golf skills and techniques that reflect 50 years of playing. And, his game speaks for itself. Finally, he's trusted to honor and respect golf rules - and to have a modicum of decency and character.

[@hereigoagain5050]

Put Trump in a pig costume.

[@steveeuphrates-river7342]

I'm hoping Hogan can pull off the upset over property tax dodger AlsoCrooks

[@mikedee-oq1ir]

worst episode ever what about your sex violation

[@KC-nd7nt]

Keep your opinions to yourself and just deliver the news

[@hereigoagain5050]

It's politically self-defeating to give money to lower/middle income folks because it causes inflation. They quickly forget the benefits (more money) but remember the pain (higher prices), even if the benefits are greater than the pain. Giving money to the rich is politically brilliant because they use the extra money to buy assets. The stock market goes up, voters are happy, and upper income voters remember their benefactors.

[@LambieSamba]

Asshat!

[@joanhyde1745]

That only works when everyone has good stocks! Not all people can wfford to put money into the stock markets.

[@donaldcarlin6385]

The exact opposite of everything you said is true. Still pushing trickle down stupidity? Not only is that proven nonsense there were many experiments during the pandemic that proved for every dollar given to the poor comes back 10x boosting the economy. Poor people spend- rich people hoard.

[@donaldcarlin6385]

I was going to refute everything you texted- then I realized I would be dignifying pure horseshit even responding.

[@hereigoagain5050]

@@donaldcarlin6385 OK. Obama and Biden gave a lot to lower/middle income people, yet more than half of them support Trump and complain about inflation. Go figure!

[@sharkulashairstylist5505]

Springfield reminds me of the monorail episode of Simpsons & eating cats reminds me of ALF. Lately, I have been having visions of ALF as the monorail conductor, and ALF is too short to operate the monorail, nor is he smart enough. ALF crashes the train, the train full of dogs that look like ALF 🐕 alf is the original cat eating illegal 👽

[@patriciaadams4171]

MAGA IS EATING BRAINS

[@riqpate7122]

1st response is to put the bong down. But on reflection....