James Harden CAN'T BE GREATER Than Allen Iverson

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@868kng
@868kng Жыл бұрын
This conversation is gross. To say that Chris Paul carried James Harden. Damn! That’s crazyyy
@almightymike9484
@almightymike9484 Жыл бұрын
Staight hate atp
@GXprogamer
@GXprogamer 3 ай бұрын
Funny when u realize cp3 wasnt a allstar, injured most of that season, yet harden carried them to franchise record 65 wins
@eappleby9702
@eappleby9702 Жыл бұрын
Harden defends so well in the post watch the game smh
@royernyc4995
@royernyc4995 Жыл бұрын
The James harden hate is so clear , the fact that they even asked is he better than Reggie says enough 😂😂😂
@deetheoriginal3117
@deetheoriginal3117 Жыл бұрын
Wade and AI is better than Harden
@Johenz
@Johenz Жыл бұрын
Reggie averaged 19 ppg
@epicfightingconflict4414
@epicfightingconflict4414 Жыл бұрын
only one person said reggie better than james harden, he still ain't beating the lakers tho u can forget that
@deetheoriginal3117
@deetheoriginal3117 Жыл бұрын
@@epicfightingconflict4414 Harden is way better than Reggie
@yoooo2938
@yoooo2938 Жыл бұрын
@@deetheoriginal3117 wade is not ai tho
@brian6816
@brian6816 Жыл бұрын
That JH hate is crazy
@aaronhorne40744
@aaronhorne40744 Жыл бұрын
James Harden is trash
@deetheoriginal3117
@deetheoriginal3117 Жыл бұрын
Wade and AI is better
@jarvezzz
@jarvezzz Жыл бұрын
@@deetheoriginal3117no
@thesportsfanatic2106
@thesportsfanatic2106 Жыл бұрын
@@jarvezzz Wade is better than harden
@coreythomas3633
@coreythomas3633 Жыл бұрын
@@deetheoriginal3117 wade but not A.i 😂
@evandupree6085
@evandupree6085 Жыл бұрын
Allen Iverson made it out the 2nd round once. The crazy thing is a lot of the critique you can throw at Harden is the same criticism you can put on AI but we look at AI with rose-tinted glasses.
@RobinXlone
@RobinXlone Жыл бұрын
AI had no one compared to james harden. hes played with great players his whole career
@marlowstanfield6815
@marlowstanfield6815 Жыл бұрын
Has Harden lead a team to the Finals?
@dtg0342
@dtg0342 Жыл бұрын
How Harden has played with KD twice Russ twice CP3 and Embiid. Iverson best teammate was Melo in the west and older Mutumbo who was strictly defensive but couldn’t deal with Shaq in 2001.
@lEducateU
@lEducateU Жыл бұрын
@@RobinXlone against best team in history nobody could beat the team he lost too. also he had bums around him first few seasons in hou
@aaronrooks2703
@aaronrooks2703 Жыл бұрын
@@lEducateU What bums did Harden have? He was playing with Dwight Howard by his 2nd season in Houston
@jacobsmith7236
@jacobsmith7236 Жыл бұрын
Marz needs to turn up like this more often 😂💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾 give em that energy!
@Mindag13
@Mindag13 Жыл бұрын
Tell him slide for the Queen
@onaregulaar4383
@onaregulaar4383 Жыл бұрын
@@Mindag13 😭😭😭
@lucianodadon7822
@lucianodadon7822 Жыл бұрын
He don't know shit
@raziel2592
@raziel2592 Жыл бұрын
Ticket turned a switch in him
@Osiris1K
@Osiris1K Жыл бұрын
@@raziel2592 ticket is a joke
@jeremiahsmith7706
@jeremiahsmith7706 Жыл бұрын
It's getting NASTY! Ainn no way Ron said Harden can't fw Allen Houston and Latrel Spreewell! Cap to the highest degree🧢
@jerrylanes8354
@jerrylanes8354 Жыл бұрын
He couldn’t they too aggressive for the baby shit
@dtg0342
@dtg0342 Жыл бұрын
Spreewell would excel in this era and was an all star 2nd and 3rd season in the league.
@Kjherr24
@Kjherr24 Жыл бұрын
Has to be one of the most disrespectful comment I heard
@jeremiahsmith7706
@jeremiahsmith7706 Жыл бұрын
@@jerrylanes8354 they suck
@yoooo2938
@yoooo2938 Жыл бұрын
james harden was one of the best offensive players we’ve seen and people not understandin that
@J2godly
@J2godly Жыл бұрын
The James Harden disrespect is crazy just because he don’t got a TEAM accomplishment 😂🤦🏽‍♂️
@KVJ-w7h
@KVJ-w7h Жыл бұрын
He disrespect himself having priorities on titties instead winning championships
@4FatHoesInAHonda
@4FatHoesInAHonda Жыл бұрын
Mind u After that finals every year A.I NEVER MADE IT PAST THE FIRST ROUND EVEN WITH MELO IN FACT THE nuggets got better once A.I left at least harden is more consistent in the playoffs than ai he ain getting past the first round harden is better simple
@darkelzsmith3564
@darkelzsmith3564 Жыл бұрын
James Harden has came up short in the biggest moments multiply times. He'd rather go to a club let's be real
@4FatHoesInAHonda
@4FatHoesInAHonda Жыл бұрын
@@darnellwilliams8783 that is true he didn’t make it past the first round dumbass know basketball before u talk shii and I started watching in 04 btw so harden wasn’t more consistent in the playoffs
@4FatHoesInAHonda
@4FatHoesInAHonda Жыл бұрын
@@darnellwilliams8783 BETTER SCORER LOOK AT HIS TRUE SHOOTING if he was such a franchise player then why the nuggets got better once he left look all A.I got on harden is bigger influence and better playmaker stop it u clearly don’t know basketball if u say A.I was a better playmaker than harden he was averaging like 10 ast per game at one point tf are u talking about
@deontresiler
@deontresiler Жыл бұрын
Reggie miller over James harden is wild😂
@hardwoodthought1213
@hardwoodthought1213 Жыл бұрын
Yeah that’s the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard
@ovo-vert2933
@ovo-vert2933 Жыл бұрын
No it’s not 😭
@slojo404
@slojo404 Жыл бұрын
@@ovo-vert2933 that’s blasphemy
@ovo-vert2933
@ovo-vert2933 Жыл бұрын
Bro it’s not, you must of never seen Reggie play
@deontresiler
@deontresiler Жыл бұрын
@@ovo-vert2933 everyone has Reggie is nowhere near the rebounder, playmaker that harden is and Reggie has never been a top ten player during his era
@kobesan42
@kobesan42 Жыл бұрын
Ai did more with less, Harden has played with MVPs and guys that won championships and still couldn’t get it done. Sure he can give you 55 on a Tuesday in the middle of the regular season but not when it matters
@products_n_gadgets
@products_n_gadgets Жыл бұрын
Harden was beaten by an All time team before he got to the finals
@CJ2008NW
@CJ2008NW Жыл бұрын
W take
@TheIcemanthomas
@TheIcemanthomas Жыл бұрын
@@products_n_gadgets so what. So did a lot of players. That doesn’t give u a get out of jail free card. Especially when u play as inconsistent as he did against them.
@jonnstewart2023
@jonnstewart2023 Жыл бұрын
@@products_n_gadgets and AI was beaten by a team that went 16-1 in the playoffs, and their only loss was cuz AI went beas mode in the firs game
@moneyman9925
@moneyman9925 Жыл бұрын
Terrible
@wasdrankings1518
@wasdrankings1518 Жыл бұрын
Losing in the final is equivalent to losing to the eventual champion in the conference final. Especially if it goes to 7. Harden rockets beat everyone but the warriors that season
@purerage7812
@purerage7812 Жыл бұрын
Ron putting that on his son is crazy, I pray for him🙏🏾
@Brooklyn94269
@Brooklyn94269 Жыл бұрын
Despite Ai lack of playoff success aside from the finals trip , he always increased his numbers in the playoffs showing that he didn’t fold.Can’t say the same for Harden whose playoff numbers and efficiency plummet from his reg season averages. To me it’s that simple
@hardwoodthought1213
@hardwoodthought1213 Жыл бұрын
On worse efficiency. It’s not hard to increase scoring when you’re willing to let you efficiency drop
@Brooklyn94269
@Brooklyn94269 Жыл бұрын
@@hardwoodthought1213 Harden’s efficiency was also terrible . AI’s was consistent with what he did in the reg season. Harden’s efficiency significantly dropped in the playoffs along with his raw numbers
@hardwoodthought1213
@hardwoodthought1213 Жыл бұрын
@@Brooklyn94269 For their playoff careers Hardens TS% is .589, Iverson’s is .489 That’s an incredibly large disparity, 10% on TS is like shooting 15% worse overall So no, it’s not the same
@HartleysRaspberry
@HartleysRaspberry Жыл бұрын
@@Brooklyn94269that is a flat out lie harden NEVER had negative efficiency reg season or postseason in his prime AI however....
@MrSlashblade
@MrSlashblade Жыл бұрын
Well playing one round usually does that for you
@kingjay9030
@kingjay9030 Жыл бұрын
Ron is the same guy that said Ben Simmons is a HOF player
@lintlickers
@lintlickers Жыл бұрын
Ron is handicapped. he talks and acts like he’s on ESPN.
@Coldskin1
@Coldskin1 Жыл бұрын
If tony kukco in the hall of fame anything can happen
@jordo2604
@jordo2604 11 ай бұрын
@@Coldskin1he was a 6th man of the year and a multiple time champion. Ben Simmons is known for winning a rookie of the year his second year in the league and not laying the ball up on Trae Young.
@BeanHoopz
@BeanHoopz Жыл бұрын
Marz please do this to Ticket next time 😂😂
@5starathlete804
@5starathlete804 Жыл бұрын
No chance ticket too witty and quick to the point. Even when he is wrong
@yokun1885
@yokun1885 Жыл бұрын
@@5starathlete804 ticket is too loud to be hearing that
@velimasuku8808
@velimasuku8808 Жыл бұрын
Ticket got cooked by Marz and Chill the other day 😂😂😂
@tripletee2324
@tripletee2324 Жыл бұрын
CP3 is barely 6 foot and is an all-time defender. Melo is 6’8 and has been a defensive liability throughout most of his career. The height argument isn’t valid. There were definitely some postseason series he’s definitely should’ve won or at least took it further than what he did but a lot of his postseason exits were too against the Warriors who we say are the amongst the greatest teams ever if not THE greatest team ever. And even though Harden does often underperform in the postseason, let’s not AI didn’t do the same thing either. Yeah AI hasn’t always been in the best situations himself but he’s also has been one of the biggest reasons why he couldn’t win a championship. That 01 run was great but outside of the Lakers, the other teams weren’t great unlike with teams Harden has faced.
@dtg0342
@dtg0342 Жыл бұрын
Who did harden face great in Houston besides Golden state who beat him with and without KD. Also loss the same year without KD against Toronto.
@kingjaydex7464
@kingjaydex7464 Жыл бұрын
Height argument is valid because there are barely any good defenders at the guard position because their height limits their ability to impact the game.
@blacknetsmed
@blacknetsmed Жыл бұрын
Height isn't a good argument for being bad defender, but girth is. Girth is the main Iverson was a poor defender. He weighed 165-170lbs. 5'5" Early Boykins was posting Iverson up.
@dtg0342
@dtg0342 Жыл бұрын
@@kingjaydex7464 Harden shouldn’t be in any defensive discussions
@thekingofball2341
@thekingofball2341 Жыл бұрын
Exactly I hate when people bring up height. Btw people acting like if Warriors didn’t exist Harden wouldn’t win anything
@Skiii_345
@Skiii_345 Жыл бұрын
Reggie miller ain’t even over ray allen how tf he gone be over harden 😂😂😂😂
@TheLivewire18
@TheLivewire18 Жыл бұрын
Ron put in on his son and got bodied… 😂
@kjo2130
@kjo2130 Жыл бұрын
Lmao
@Nightmare-we8vm
@Nightmare-we8vm Жыл бұрын
Did they say Reggie's finals run was harder than The Rocket's 7 game series against KD Warriors.
@kanyescamry6888
@kanyescamry6888 Жыл бұрын
it’s like they forget harden was dropping 25-45 point bombs for 4-5 years
@deetheoriginal3117
@deetheoriginal3117 Жыл бұрын
AI didn't have CP3 Westbrook Dwight Kyrie or KD on his team
@yahiaali4059
@yahiaali4059 Жыл бұрын
@@deetheoriginal3117 harden and cp3 almost took out the warriors superteam in 7 games but cp3 got hurt and u said Dwight? Kobe had Dwight he said this guy doesn’t have a championship heart and kd was only 22 when they went to the finals
@kanyescamry6888
@kanyescamry6888 Жыл бұрын
@@deetheoriginal3117 but the league was better during hardens prime
@deetheoriginal3117
@deetheoriginal3117 Жыл бұрын
@@yahiaali4059 give AI the teammates harden has had and he winning a ring
@yahiaali4059
@yahiaali4059 Жыл бұрын
@@deetheoriginal3117 I’m sorry it doesn’t work like that 😂 In the 2000s most teams had one superstar not just Ai
@parkerhagen1086
@parkerhagen1086 Жыл бұрын
Did Allen Houston or Latrell Spreewell average 36 in a season gtfoh that’s so nasty
@JLS-vv6ye
@JLS-vv6ye Жыл бұрын
He’s just another Karl Malone, Allen Iverson, Westbrook etc it means nothing putting stats and not win when it counts.. the dude can’t even Guard an empty bag of chips 😂
@user-xb4fm5rx8h
@user-xb4fm5rx8h 3 күн бұрын
@@JLS-vv6yeI’d rather be James Harden’s career than Robert Horry. Y’all always rambling team accomplishments lol 😂
@IconicUniverse4L
@IconicUniverse4L Жыл бұрын
Harden missed hella opportunities to beat the warriors in the west, one of those times were when KD got hurt and Steph went scoreless in the first half. And the rockets were up in the series. They failed that year badly
@TheLncredibleJ
@TheLncredibleJ Жыл бұрын
Wrong!!! They were never up in that series..... Kd only missed 1 game.. which was game 6.... GAME 5, Steph went scoreless in the first half... but KD was still there and he was matching Harden in scoring that game, KD had like 25-30 and they were still winning!!!! They didnt fail badly, that team just wasnt beating GS..... I dont think you even watched the series lmaoooooo
@xkid.darkskin5178
@xkid.darkskin5178 Жыл бұрын
@@TheLncredibleJ this is coming from a colts fans y’all are straight trash anyways clearly you didn’t watch the series. the rockets had so many opportunities to beat the warriors and idc what anyone says harden is a choker in the playoffs and that’s why he won’t win a ring
@IconicUniverse4L
@IconicUniverse4L Жыл бұрын
@@TheLncredibleJ KD had to be out longer than that. That was the year he tore his Achilles against the raptors the only game he played no? Was there not a time Kd was out vs the rockets where Harden could’ve helped them beat the warriors? Am I wrong on that
@IconicUniverse4L
@IconicUniverse4L Жыл бұрын
@@TheLncredibleJ you might be right cause I can’t find that game at all. However Harden did have more chances to beat the warriors, I was wrong about the context though my fault
@TheLncredibleJ
@TheLncredibleJ Жыл бұрын
​​​@@xkid.darkskin5178 They had 1 opportunity and CP got hurt!! Lol. Nobody was beating them dude are you fu c ki ng stu p id bro... they literally was sweeping everybody for YEARS
@walk_er
@walk_er Жыл бұрын
I’m sorry man I laugh whenever Ron get into any debate. 😂 This man making it seem like Allen iverson was locking dudes up.
@walk_er
@walk_er Жыл бұрын
@@darnellwilliams8783 you are living off the nostalgic side and how AI made you feel. Just because he led the lead in steals doesn’t make you a solid defender you have to do more than that. Offensively iverson had seasons where he barely or did shot below 40% FROM THE FIELD. Iverson is one of thee most overrated players ever.
@walk_er
@walk_er Жыл бұрын
@@darnellwilliams8783 and Idc if I started watching nba last season I can go back and watch damn near his whole career. I can research his numbers.
@eamonhogan2635
@eamonhogan2635 Жыл бұрын
@@walk_er facts I like iverson but I’m not gonna lie, if someone today won a scoring title shooting under 40% from the field we would be calling them a shot CHUCKER
@kingjaydex7464
@kingjaydex7464 Жыл бұрын
@@darnellwilliams8783 Harden was solid defensive player from 2018-2020 that’s not saying much
@videovaulttv1
@videovaulttv1 Жыл бұрын
Allen Iverson was a good defender
@benjaminan1183
@benjaminan1183 Жыл бұрын
0:51 Thank you, I hate when people make that excuse.
@coolmeransom
@coolmeransom Жыл бұрын
What did harden do to the guy in the top right? Get that hate out your heart 😂
@MrSlashblade
@MrSlashblade Жыл бұрын
“They went to the finals 99” yea beat the same pacers that you said harden can’t go through
@brycetheoddball
@brycetheoddball Жыл бұрын
I stand with Marz. Y’all pick and choose when to stand on certain arguments
@edwardprather4840
@edwardprather4840 Жыл бұрын
That 01 sixers had a MVP DPOY 6TH MAN and COTY how was that team GARBAGE explain to me please
@bjr0467
@bjr0467 Жыл бұрын
I'm takin AI over James harden all day everyday
@nbatalk714
@nbatalk714 Жыл бұрын
That 1 finals by iverson was amazing but im suprized it’s glorified so much, I mean bron been to 10 and everybody down plays it and makes it seem like its easy
@juicejuice5013
@juicejuice5013 Жыл бұрын
Bron got that ass swept in 07 A.I got one
@NewAgeSlaves
@NewAgeSlaves Жыл бұрын
Ai got a lot of fans cause he changed the culture buy only bring one that one playoff series...
@walk_er
@walk_er Жыл бұрын
It was one great game in the finals not the whole series
@gmailgmail6234
@gmailgmail6234 10 ай бұрын
@@juicejuice5013one finals win in his career is glorified
@Thankyou4x
@Thankyou4x Жыл бұрын
Bro Marz be COOKING these up and coming old heads 😂😂😂😂🤣🤣
@yokun1885
@yokun1885 Жыл бұрын
Marz is overhated. I don't agree with him all the time but there is a reason why he swept Ticket. With that being said, AI being overrated really hurt a lot of feelings in the past few weeks.
@yag2310
@yag2310 Жыл бұрын
Love seeing people give Harden is flowers. He’s easily better than AI
@Natedawwg2332
@Natedawwg2332 Жыл бұрын
Marz said “I know who they played” starring at his screen
@Natedawwg2332
@Natedawwg2332 Жыл бұрын
@@darnellwilliams8783 also people forget harden had Howard pretty early in Houston too so idk how it’s even a comparison of who played with better teammates. Bottom line both player underachieved in the playoffs but harden did it with more talent around him
@HartleysRaspberry
@HartleysRaspberry Жыл бұрын
@@darnellwilliams8783started watching in 2016 get it right
@dbz4735
@dbz4735 Жыл бұрын
@@Natedawwg2332harden play with Russ twice and kd twice, kyrie,Howard,cp3,now embid and tyrese maxey Ai best teamate in his prime was the older dikembe yet he took them in the final while harden had never lead his team in the final
@TheRealLeonardWashington
@TheRealLeonardWashington Жыл бұрын
@@dbz4735 don’t forget he had Clint Capela averaging 16 and and damn near 13 boards the 2018-2019 year. And 7 players outside of himself averaging double figures in that 2014-15 year. Harden had plenty of help. We never looked at Harden and said damn, are they going to get him some help?? He had more years with help than without
@dbz4735
@dbz4735 Жыл бұрын
@@TheRealLeonardWashington fax I forget about capela in Houston and yes harden had a lot if help in his career he got one of the most help in nba history harden is just not the guy to lead his team to the championship as a number 1 option
@tophated216
@tophated216 Жыл бұрын
James Harden Is a all time choker
@hardwoodthought1213
@hardwoodthought1213 Жыл бұрын
AI got past round 1 twice in his career…..
@maryannguss9029
@maryannguss9029 Жыл бұрын
@@hardwoodthought1213 shh the idiots don’t want you to know that
@tophated216
@tophated216 Жыл бұрын
@@hardwoodthought1213 Harden Never lead his own team to the finals❕
@deetheoriginal3117
@deetheoriginal3117 Жыл бұрын
@@hardwoodthought1213 give AI KD Russ Kyrie Dwight and Melo he winning a championship
@montblancnoland4034
@montblancnoland4034 Жыл бұрын
I use to hate when you guys would jump in my feed bro the takes was so reckless marz and ticket especially but man the takes got so crazy its just entertaining lol I'm subbed
@Fayn757
@Fayn757 Жыл бұрын
Marz be cooking these clowns
@MrSlashblade
@MrSlashblade Жыл бұрын
“He can’t beat Latrell sprewell, Allan Houston, old Patrick Ewing” But didn’t he beat, the likes of Jimmy Wiggins and KAT? More talented players and he dog walked them? Even when he was OKC harden he closed out the spurs in game 5, but Sprewell and Houston are the problem
@sgprince06
@sgprince06 Жыл бұрын
i need Ticket to go at Marz on this one BADLY
@breno5029
@breno5029 Жыл бұрын
Gtfo gofy ahh archaic head.
@yokun1885
@yokun1885 Жыл бұрын
lol didn't Marz sweep his ass 3 weeks ago?
@davonanderson8052
@davonanderson8052 Жыл бұрын
You can’t compare winning in different eras and I swear ya love to get caught in nostalgia cause nobody brings up Allan Houston nor Latrell spreewell
@MarkWadey
@MarkWadey Жыл бұрын
I've never seen James harden do anything clutch in the playoffs or be ultra competitive am show a drive to win
@rickeyjtv1802
@rickeyjtv1802 Жыл бұрын
Allen iverson 14th nba in steals james harden definitely dont play any type of defense all because you might not like iverson doesn't mean to ignore his stats
@walk_er
@walk_er Жыл бұрын
Iverson being better defensively than harden doesn’t hold weight because they both wasn’t good defensively.
@kingjaydex7464
@kingjaydex7464 Жыл бұрын
Iverson wasn’t a good defender and he said on the Cowherd show himself
@chasestacks7792
@chasestacks7792 Жыл бұрын
AI DOESNT HAVE THE CHOKE JOBS HARDEN HAS
@yokun1885
@yokun1885 Жыл бұрын
Harden's choke jobs = The average AI game Y'all have higher standards for Harden which clearly tells me you actually think Harden is better. Bozos.
@chasestacks7792
@chasestacks7792 Жыл бұрын
Ai still had more impact on defense because of passing lanes steals
@lamontxx
@lamontxx Жыл бұрын
No
@lucasrangel9150
@lucasrangel9150 Жыл бұрын
I’ll never understand if you’re picking between 2 players in order to help your team to win, why would you pick the player you think is worse?
@princeofyahudah
@princeofyahudah Жыл бұрын
Russel Westbrook was probably the best free agent when the Lakers got him. Buddy Hield was a better fit for the team though
@fadercreek
@fadercreek Жыл бұрын
Ai is one of the most underated defensive players ever he was the ed Reed of the nba
@yokun1885
@yokun1885 Жыл бұрын
Stop the cap. AI is a cone.
@fadercreek
@fadercreek Жыл бұрын
he averaged 2 steals a game for 5 straight seasons y'all don't check stats
@yokun1885
@yokun1885 Жыл бұрын
@@fadercreek damn in that case, Steph Curry is an underrated defensive player. More steals =/= good defender
@orangejuice20133
@orangejuice20133 Жыл бұрын
@@fadercreek steph does the same thing lmao 😂
@Johenz
@Johenz Жыл бұрын
@@fadercreek James harden top in steals every year Damm he’s a great defender….. iverson was a horrible defender
@taedebo6294
@taedebo6294 Жыл бұрын
A.I is in my personal top 5 🤷🏾‍♂️
@DonPablo-se4yn
@DonPablo-se4yn Жыл бұрын
Thank you Marz on behalf on all harden fans
@khalilluna56
@khalilluna56 Жыл бұрын
Ima need to hear tickets take on this
@jaywally6322
@jaywally6322 Жыл бұрын
I swear Marz n Dub have some of the most mind baffling takes sometimes lmaoo they swear everything that existed b4 they went to junior high school is trash and everything that exists today is the most spectacular thing the nba world has ever seen 😭
@HartleysRaspberry
@HartleysRaspberry Жыл бұрын
if u believe i think that then u dont listen to me lol
@jaywally6322
@jaywally6322 Жыл бұрын
@@HartleysRaspberry oh I mos Def listen n love the fact people disagrees cuz that's what makes it fun. But you do come across that way sometimes. We Def gonna get a healthy debate in when I call up the panel one day. But until then I'll keep enjoying the content.
@HartleysRaspberry
@HartleysRaspberry Жыл бұрын
@@jaywally6322 listen harder cos i most definitely dont favour todays players i just dont like some discourse around some older players,also u can always come on open gym
@dtg0342
@dtg0342 Жыл бұрын
Yeah they have some awful takes like Russ over Stockton Kareem not in the goat debate and Harden over Iverson. I bet Marz never seen Iverson play one game in Philadelphia. Also he can’t name the starting 5 without basketball reference or notes.
@HartleysRaspberry
@HartleysRaspberry Жыл бұрын
@@dtg0342 i have stockton over russ,i have kareem #2 all time,youd lose that bet,also he played in philly for damn near a decade here we go again with people saying AI had a one year career its funny
@dronescns4741
@dronescns4741 Жыл бұрын
Allen iverson > harden
@hoodieszn2871
@hoodieszn2871 Жыл бұрын
reggie is not in the same atmosphere as harden😂 he is running thru that east
@talaf6616
@talaf6616 Жыл бұрын
Harden is better and just because Harden had better offensive talent around him doesn’t negate that AI had better defensive talent around him which won them series’s and games that he under performed in. It wasnt like the sixers were just thrashing team’s offensively they were holding them down defensively. Harden also had a higher strength of competition. Even tho i am not a Harden fan i feel like nostalgia makes people put AI over Harden when outside of that finals run AI hadn’t made it out of the the second round and there is a reason for that.
@ecoblitz3655
@ecoblitz3655 Жыл бұрын
Bro saying AI should get a pass but these same people will say Curry is small and it shouldn’t matter on defense lmao.
@zagozago5907
@zagozago5907 Жыл бұрын
Iverson Harden comparison is just pathetic to watch,what disrespect to AI
@almightymike9484
@almightymike9484 Жыл бұрын
Harden is better, how do we tell u
@jaheimwilliams4059
@jaheimwilliams4059 Жыл бұрын
@@almightymike9484No he is not. Harden had the most help and he find some way to shrink in the playofffs
@almightymike9484
@almightymike9484 Жыл бұрын
@@jaheimwilliams4059 which year did he hav the most help?
@dthrust9037
@dthrust9037 7 ай бұрын
2021 2018 2022 2023
@joejett5084
@joejett5084 Жыл бұрын
Harden should have a minimum of 3 mvps
@bronxgmoney
@bronxgmoney Жыл бұрын
Deflects and steals are two different things my boy
@products_n_gadgets
@products_n_gadgets Жыл бұрын
How is AI better at defense than James Harden?
@cloudunderweather9554
@cloudunderweather9554 Жыл бұрын
HE TRIES.
@kingjaydex7464
@kingjaydex7464 Жыл бұрын
@@cloudunderweather9554and is still not as good
@706Kel
@706Kel Жыл бұрын
Aint no 6ft 165lbs sg stopping nobody
@cloudunderweather9554
@cloudunderweather9554 Жыл бұрын
@@kingjaydex7464 that wasn't the question was it ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ look you can overcomplicate it if you want but in my opinion, allen iverson is around steph curry defensively. Thats not good but at least its passable. Its simple, what does AI have defensively that harden doesn't? its EFFORT.
@kingjaydex7464
@kingjaydex7464 Жыл бұрын
@@cloudunderweather9554 he asked the question how is AI better defensively and you said effort. I responded that even with effort he still wasn’t as good as Harden. Iverson not as good as Curry or Harden defensively. Harden actually developed into a passable defender at his peak. He was one of the best post defenders for a guard in a Rockets scheme that switched 1-5 and he was a great rebounder who wasn’t the cone everyone likes to think
@AquariusLeviathanProphecy
@AquariusLeviathanProphecy Жыл бұрын
Mars is probably talking about AI Denver days 😂
@veli1100
@veli1100 Жыл бұрын
Marz just likes to hear himself talk James harden can never step in iverson shadow
@hardwoodthought1213
@hardwoodthought1213 Жыл бұрын
AI had 1 playoff run of worth, which came in the weakest conference ever and it still took a rigged series to get him to the finals
@ovo-vert2933
@ovo-vert2933 Жыл бұрын
Harden has never made it that far, and choked bad vs Spurs no Kawhi lol
@derekbuck3262
@derekbuck3262 Жыл бұрын
Still more than Harden
@trevon444
@trevon444 Жыл бұрын
@@ovo-vert2933 harden was in the finals in 2012 lmao
@ovo-vert2933
@ovo-vert2933 Жыл бұрын
@@trevon444 He was riding the bus that year, the 3rd or 4th best player, try again
@ArthPedro
@ArthPedro Жыл бұрын
Iverson is a one season man, yall never talk about no season besides 2001
@Woofreestyle
@Woofreestyle Жыл бұрын
Marz was cooking them with actual knowledge of what happened. They couldn’t even answer who they played
@rayquaza1245
@rayquaza1245 Жыл бұрын
Nah. He was cherry picking and leaving out context and the other guys didn't have the knowledge to argue against it. He talks about AI's lack of playoff success but the fact is every playoff series AI's team was the higher seed, they won. Iverson never played the Knicks in the playoffs. The Sixers just weren't a good organization, while Harden played with great organizations with many of the best players of his generation. That's the difference, Harden underachieved in the playoffs while AI did not.
@Axzide
@Axzide Жыл бұрын
@@rayquaza1245 okay? hows it harden's fault that AI wasn't winning games to have a good seeding? Ai barely got out of the 1st round in his career, thats his own fault
@rayquaza1245
@rayquaza1245 Жыл бұрын
@@Axzide How is it AIs fault that Harden consistently played with some of the best players in NBA history?
@Axzide
@Axzide Жыл бұрын
@@rayquaza1245 how’s Harden fault he was in the same conference as the greatest team of all time ?
@rayquaza1245
@rayquaza1245 Жыл бұрын
@@Axzide Didn't realize 2017 and 2018 were the only seasons of Harden's career. By that logic how is it AI's fault he played against Shaq and Kobe in the finals?
@fymobrolo
@fymobrolo Жыл бұрын
Forget the Team Accomplishments. Harden Shrinks in the playoffs year after year. He has never showed up in the biggest moments . From losing to Miami to Choking when Chris Paul was injured. Harden plays like shit when it’s time to go big or go home. AI never choked over and over in the play offs 10 years straight
@agendaxpushers1322
@agendaxpushers1322 Жыл бұрын
ai got alotta steals he was better on defense end of story
@almightymike9484
@almightymike9484 Жыл бұрын
Was curry good at defense back in 2016? Bcuz he led the league in steals but was still bad on defense
@iceinmyveins7521
@iceinmyveins7521 Жыл бұрын
Harden is better at every aspect of ball bro how is ai better
@brandmoney
@brandmoney Жыл бұрын
AI dominated the courts. James dominated the grey areas of the rules. Harden isn't game breaking, maybe game bending🤷‍♂️
@4FatHoesInAHonda
@4FatHoesInAHonda Жыл бұрын
@@brandmoney what did AI do after that one finals I’ll wait
@iceinmyveins7521
@iceinmyveins7521 Жыл бұрын
@@darnellwilliams8783 please tell one thing Iverson does better than harden
@iceinmyveins7521
@iceinmyveins7521 Жыл бұрын
@@brandmoney harden also dominated the courts and he dominated it better
@brandmoney
@brandmoney Жыл бұрын
@@iceinmyveins7521 lmao Harden had 3 squads with at least one other Hall of Famer and he still hasn't made it a finals while AI was the team. No disrespect intended but Harden is a choke artist bro.
@Nightmare-we8vm
@Nightmare-we8vm Жыл бұрын
We should view Harden like a better Nash. He was the product of the rules at the time and was so unguardable he averaged 15 ft. Y'all talking bout Reggie and Ray Allen like Harden didn't have people playing behind him to stop his 3pt shooting.
@jasonbourne9466
@jasonbourne9466 Жыл бұрын
marv said AIs prime was overrated hahahahah and now he's overrating a lot of these current stars that aint done shit yet.... the irony
@t.r.o.y.therighteousobeysy8358
@t.r.o.y.therighteousobeysy8358 Жыл бұрын
Allen Iverson is a 3 time steals champion and the same year he was the MVP he runner up for defense player of the year award.
@jackjr715
@jackjr715 Жыл бұрын
Runner up was KG
@t.r.o.y.therighteousobeysy8358
@t.r.o.y.therighteousobeysy8358 Жыл бұрын
@@jackjr715 are you sure bro.
@t.r.o.y.therighteousobeysy8358
@t.r.o.y.therighteousobeysy8358 Жыл бұрын
@@jackjr715 you were right I looked it up.
@99BullD
@99BullD Жыл бұрын
The way these grown ass men talking about other men that are way more successful and accomplished in their careers and that dude at the top right insulting James harden is just cringe asf
@decarririchardson-curry5851
@decarririchardson-curry5851 Жыл бұрын
Harden Clears A.I prime for prime
@kingjay9030
@kingjay9030 Жыл бұрын
Ron is also the guy the capes for trae young even he had only one good playoff run
@Coldskin1
@Coldskin1 Жыл бұрын
who taking year 3 trae young or year 3 james harden
@Mrballerize
@Mrballerize Жыл бұрын
@3:00 Yall gotta stop. Reggie arguably shouldn't even be in the top 75. Played 18 years, and only has 5 all stars, and 3 3rd team all nba's to his name. Harden CLEARS Reggie Miller.
@kingjaydex7464
@kingjaydex7464 Жыл бұрын
AI is another player overrated by the “pure hooper” segment of basketball fans. He wasn’t a good defender and he was also a chuck. There’s nothing on the court he did better than Harden. He didn’t score better, pass better, rebound better or defend better
@deetheoriginal3117
@deetheoriginal3117 Жыл бұрын
U don't know basketball AI is better than Harden
@kingjaydex7464
@kingjaydex7464 Жыл бұрын
@@deetheoriginal3117 no he ain’t
@iDollaSign
@iDollaSign 7 күн бұрын
Wow Latrell and Allen Huston is wild 🤦🏾‍♂️
@ACGreenTV
@ACGreenTV Жыл бұрын
Allen Iverson is the only player with a winning record against Michael Jordan
@Slyllee
@Slyllee Жыл бұрын
I seen both prime iverson and prime harden and I’m taking harden
@usmans9274
@usmans9274 Жыл бұрын
im taking Iverson by far, the mentality, the fire, the focus, the fight
@jmar5127
@jmar5127 Жыл бұрын
U don't Win back to back Big East defensive player of the year if u suck on defense. Was A.I. great on defense no, but he was solid. He only struggled cuz guys would post him up. It just shows how when u don't watch or live through it, u simply don't know. If u know anything about the Big East in the 90s, u know how winning DPOY twice during that time was super legit.
@Bluephi22
@Bluephi22 Жыл бұрын
Thank you
@unspeakablyawesomebros3392
@unspeakablyawesomebros3392 Жыл бұрын
No Ai was horrible on defence, his defensive on off numbers are literally among the worst of anyone who logged as many minutes as him.
@saviourholland651
@saviourholland651 Жыл бұрын
Y'all let me know when the league change the rules for James Harden. Let's not forget because A.I crossed Jordan the rule no carrying was created. Not to mention A.I was 5'11 he measured 6 feet with braid's in a defensive era and still carried his team. While James harden playing in a offensive era where rules are changed for players to showcase there offensive skill still can't scratch a finals even though he's ayed with more super stars be honest with yourselves
@lamontxx
@lamontxx Жыл бұрын
They did change the rules cause of harden😂😂 and Harden had to go through the warriors arguably the greatest team of all time
@daevonthesavage7483
@daevonthesavage7483 Жыл бұрын
@Lamont Davis the warriors ain't the only team he got sent home by....
@edwardfisher9930
@edwardfisher9930 Жыл бұрын
I'll take A.I over Harden any day... I never had to question Iverson heart and effort...
@13bozoe
@13bozoe Жыл бұрын
For mars to say AI off ball defense wasn't great but he a steal champ 3x 🤦🏾‍♂️
@deetheoriginal3117
@deetheoriginal3117 Жыл бұрын
Curry is a steals champ doesn't mean he's a great defender
@micah459
@micah459 Жыл бұрын
To be fair, Reggie is from a time where people didn't put up as many points as now. Best believe Reggie averaging at least 24 ppg in this era of basketball
@bravobessa3684
@bravobessa3684 Жыл бұрын
Marz acting like Ticket...
@artmessiah83
@artmessiah83 Жыл бұрын
Marz: "he led the league in deflections every year." Me: Bruh, that's not even a stat. lol
@OnlyFloor
@OnlyFloor Жыл бұрын
Pass deflections is literally a stat 💀
@artmessiah83
@artmessiah83 Жыл бұрын
@@OnlyFloor yeah it is…….IN FUCKIN FOOTBALL 💀💀💀
@countryrah
@countryrah Жыл бұрын
Harden actually a good defender I can't even lie Ai defense was great too except for the games he's had to score all the points and get all the assist same with harden he didn't play defense when he had to get 50 point triple doubles and both did that often but harden took the kd warriors to 7 with just cp3 bron didn't even so that even tho cp3 and capella is better than kyrie and love for harden to do that says allot and even Jordan era player were saying harden the best one on one player ever and best perimeter scorer ever and I agree plus he the only player ever that legit can lead the league in scoring and assist at the same time LeBron can but he plays at a slower pace
@nonamewillbegiven9989
@nonamewillbegiven9989 Жыл бұрын
Delusional
@b.o.s.ali4eva7
@b.o.s.ali4eva7 Жыл бұрын
The funny things is it’s legit great nba scores that said James harden locked them up but the way the game is setup now I hate to say it JAMES HARDEN DNT GET PAID TO PLAY DEFENSE I bet if u look through his contract it’s not 1 defensive incentive there
@royernyc4995
@royernyc4995 Жыл бұрын
Nah I don’t even defend marz like that but he held it tf down
@NarutoManiac300
@NarutoManiac300 Жыл бұрын
Bro who set up this panel to give Marz a slaughter like this.
@kzroh9871
@kzroh9871 Жыл бұрын
Now competition doesn’t matter ? Wow
@jalensmith4751
@jalensmith4751 Жыл бұрын
I'll take A.i and Reggie miller over James harden any day they won't choke in the playoffs I promise you that
@digital9979
@digital9979 Жыл бұрын
My Canadian boy ... They was a sweep ... 4-0 easily ... Fun fact harden might pass MJ on the scoring list ...
@digital9979
@digital9979 Жыл бұрын
Harden are you kidding ... Put some respect on the Beard ...
@G-ROCK1021
@G-ROCK1021 Жыл бұрын
Marz cooked Ron 😂. He can’t say Harden just put up stats when that’s what iverson did 😂. Love iverson but come on
@derekbuck3262
@derekbuck3262 Жыл бұрын
James harden had legendary regular seasons but playoffs left a lot to be desired
@danielburdisso1483
@danielburdisso1483 Жыл бұрын
He was still a good player in the playoffs, the Harden disrespect has gone too far
@heigherheights21
@heigherheights21 Жыл бұрын
In Houston he avg 30ppg in the playoffs what are you talking about
@rayquaza1245
@rayquaza1245 Жыл бұрын
@@danielburdisso1483 Yea he was good, and that wasn't good enough. Basically every playoffs he's played in, you left thinking he didn't play to his standards and needed more from him. I can't think of any playoffs where you left thinking how amazing harden played and even though he lost he did all he could.
@danielburdisso1483
@danielburdisso1483 Жыл бұрын
@@rayquaza1245 I thought that after he lost to the Warriors
@dthrust9037
@dthrust9037 7 ай бұрын
The way he choked in game7?
@malikanderson9999
@malikanderson9999 Жыл бұрын
i lost my mind wen dude asked if harden was better then reggie miller that was so offensive and i swear i don't even like harden due to those crazy bad performances he's had in significant playoff games but reggie is just not even talented enough to be in this conversation reggie can hardly create his own shot not a play maker and defensively this guy reggie can barely move and he's light in the ass hes strictly a spot up shooter one of the best but no way
@7jaysomessiahson555
@7jaysomessiahson555 Жыл бұрын
When harden plays defense he’s better than AI when he plays defense and this is facts.
@nimbusgaming8370
@nimbusgaming8370 Жыл бұрын
I DONT WANNA EVER HEAR SOMEONE SAY HARDEN IS BETTER THAN ALLEN IVERSON. ESPECIALLY AFTER WHAT HAPPENED THIS SERIES AGAINST BOSTON. 🤡 💀 🤣
@Coldskin1
@Coldskin1 Жыл бұрын
Lmfao to the people saying marz got a good points even kd said we got cut his mic
@Leovold
@Leovold Жыл бұрын
I love how the old heads hate on Marz but really don't remember as much as they say. He just clowned them so hard and they had nothing for it. Hard to see a young man who is more knowledgeable.
@not_da2159
@not_da2159 Жыл бұрын
The simple fact Ai got out the first round once is enough to put Harden over him lol
@keyceandreas9254
@keyceandreas9254 Жыл бұрын
I just prefer how AI plays to how Harden plays. Harden is a lot of top of the key iso and free throws and ehh don’t wanna depend on that for 4 quarters.
@bangladeshirealtor
@bangladeshirealtor Жыл бұрын
AI went to the line a ton in his career lol like a quarter of his ppg were from the line
@dthrust9037
@dthrust9037 7 ай бұрын
Harden had seasons where he scored more free throws than points
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