James Mushore Founder & Former Group CEO of NMBZ Holdings Limited In Conversation with Trevor

In this episode, Trevor sits down with James Mushore, Founder & Former Group CEO of NMBZ Holdings Limited. They speak on the racial politics of multi-racial schools, how he founded NMBZ Holdings Limited, his bid to become Harare Town Clerk and any more.
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[@francismuzofa4324]

Uuuuuum this guy is a total package, intelligent, honest, straight forward, visionary, patriotic etc its sad tht Zimbabweans toolbox is full of the correct tools which can fix the country but unfortunately they not being used and the country continues to suffer, You can see this guy was going to be town clerk not for the salary but to help fix Harare, what a misd opportunity

[@witnesszulu6570]

Insightful" please bring him bàck for a part two thumbs up anyone supporting me.

[@Nhamo3]

I agree we need him back.

[@andrewmushore9725]

Good interview Dad!

[@rojamillerover]

Your father is one calm yet intelligent man.Honestly impressive interview

[@finsensetv]

Your Dad is amazing Andrew. You should be proud of him

[@finsensetv]

Thank you for this very insightful discussion Mr Ncube. I am proud that our nation in spite of it's many shortcomings has brilliant minds like Mr. Mushore. I am saddened by the fact that they were initially denied a banking licence because they didn't have a political patron. This needs to change. It's also regrettable that Mr. Mushore was not allowed to work in his capacity as Town Clerk. I have no doubt in my mind that he would have made tremendous changes and added great value.

[@wezhira2007]

Mudhara wako akapenga. Mukorinde. I hope you grab the baton and press further 👏🏿👏🏿

[@jamesmushore2455]

Thank you for all your comments. Our country can be fixed if we have the right skills in the right places. A meritocracy if you like. Being in a leadership position because of the skills that you have , not because you have the military behind you or that you come from a particular area of the country. In addition to that we need strong institutions that can ensure that we are held to account where we fail to perform, fail to adhere to our constitution, and fail our country.

[@aqua4497]

You gave a wonderful account of your life James. The good foundation you had as a child shows to this day. As I worked for Radio One, I watched and admired how your presence was felt when your team audited ZBC from Coopers and Lybrand in the '80s. You carried yourself very humbly, yet authoritative. I clearly remember feeling proud of you when you started your Bank. It was strange yet awesome that you achieved the staggering challenge. Can you imagine if you had to audit governments and reserve banks in Africa? God Bless.

[@notsonline]

powerful message there Sir, to be able to be given a chance no matter where you come from. God bless you 🙏

[@Nhamo3]

Was good listening to this. A meritocracy is the way to go. We have many in critical positions who are so incompetent. They are in because of musangano or their relatives.

[@mrmccosh]

Congrats to you James. The anger which is there below the surface has risen up again ! I hope to sublimate that rage. I and my family have left Zimbabwe twice now because of this rage and despair for the Jewel of Africa. May the greedy, evil and destructive ones find a way to see light and hope. Surely we can do better, I believe that you James, and I, are not alone. We stand for the majority !

[@ishmaelmutumbi8469]

Whilst we are busy preparing to go back home open industries boom Mr James Mushore opening our eyes how evil the system is for honest people. Manje ingaite nyika munhu wese akaita mbavha here vakomana.

[@albertmdabuka4480]

Thankyou once again Trevor for bringing James Mushore to this interview. I am a testimony to everything Mr Mushore has said including how they grew NMB. I actually applied for a loan of half a million $. Mr Mushore told me that my Project proposal qualified me to be advanced 2$mln. I paid up my loan in less than 24moths. Thankyou Mr Mushore for your foresight and your zeal to see Zim moving forward for the better. Please identify 6 more people like you and keep in contact incase there is an opportunity to put things right

[@myhomegage]

Interesting

[@knowlekc]

This is one of the best conversations that Mr Trevor has presented to us in a long time. Thank YOU

[@manofkulture5299]

mdara

[@kingjayhussein5673]

Telling it like it was and what it is! James has bared his soul! After watching this,I’m left even more deflated and pessimistic at the prospects of our beautiful country. Thanks Trev,James for a fascinating conversation! These are stories that must be told ,sad as they are.

[@rojamillerover]

He needs to come back for a second part,this was an interesting interview.We need James back in the council or as the finance minister.. We need transparent non corrupt people running the city

[@mrchigs1979]

Now we get confirmation from first hand experience of what role the likes of Gono and Kasukuwere played to the mess we are in today

[@mampofu1052]

True, after watching this I feel Kasukuwere et al left us in a mess. Now the newspapers are reporting them to be involved with MDC issues

[@xharareone9350]

The story is told, J A Mushore, Esq.

[@Keith0909Maya]

Thank you for all your comments. The team reads all of them and factor them in our decisions going forward. We appreciate this level of thoughtful engagement. Stay well and safe.

[@tawandamakawa9536]

thank u trevor for the interviews

[@lajabumakanjila1612]

My boss and mentor. Cherish your leadership and appreciate your secondment of me to Corporate Finance in 1998 and I had to work on Econet listing. Proud of you J A Mushore.

[@kunimunyaka7029]

Like the interviewee.. ....powerful, informative and fearless! I see you 🤗

[@thembakhumalo3113]

Great talk...and such touching realism James...amazing what intoxication we get from being in power, in control...I'd love to engage Gono and Kasukuwere on the points James raises concerning them..

[@forbesmuzvarwandoga5021]

we need more of this, black pioneers talking about how they achieved their success.

[@chofamba9689]

And how they were harassed and hounded by Zanu-PF!

[@martinchamambo]

This right here jus cemented what i hav been thinking all along....i need to think abt my kids

[@celiacharman8382]

It's so refreshing and uplifting to hear your experiences Mr. Mushore. What a legend! Thank you Trevor for this interview priceless wisdom from a fellow ex diaspora👍👍

[@dionkandima5632]

Insightful, he needs to come back and talk more about Zimbabwean politics and what he thinks should happen to see a change in our life time.

[@Nhamo3]

I agree.

[@chibarinyaishmael8830]

We need to find each other and build Zimbabwe.

[@marjoriemaimba5479]

Insightful, inspiring and sad at the same time.... These are the brains and only hope for Zimbabwe!

[@ernestchikoto8261]

It's so clear the reason why our country is where it is! It is so clear!

[@brianmurphy8951]

Great to see my old school friend showing his soul and passion for Zimbabwe and my other old friend Trevor asking, as he always does, the relevant questions !!! Well done guys !!! So sad that we cannot in our lifetime see the Zimbabwe that our children deserve.Well done James and Trevor.

[@iamkudzi3018]

Are you still based in Zim, sir?

[@brianmurphy8951]

I am still here !

[@watsondinembira9330]

Are you Brian Murphy the former Zim cricketer?

[@chaminukaradio946]

@@watsondinembira9330 Snr. I presume

[@brianmurphy8951]

@@chaminukaradio946 no, he and his father, also Brian, are good friends. I did radio commentary on cricket and played for Old Georgians

[@tichgwanzura6862]

I honestly believe this guy was going to be the best Town Clerk to run the City of Harare

[@ntandokhumalo2788]

There’s no lie there.

[@tendaimatikinyedze1805]

Thanks Jimmy.One guy I always admired us puffing a ciggy Wasn't as patient be as U. In NZI Am into Engineering cud bring in back strong be wrk ethics iu We have no nothing to offer for all we have learnt to be build up our country. Hope to talk to yoi

[@teechiz]

Thank you Travor. This was an amazing interview i have ever listen to. Wish i could meet Mr J mushore for coffee ☕. You guys are amazing. Welldone and God bless

[@mateumazhale6050]

Mushore is very unequivocal about challenges our country faces and what he said is too profound. Imagine if such people with capabilities lead some of our biggest institutions, Zimbabwe will be a jewel of Africa and the world.Zimbabwe shall rise one day!

[@lovemorengandu8293]

What a riveting and touching conversation. Thank you Trevor for bringing this intelligent talented business leader. Zimbabwe is endowed with bright people to rescue it. Mr Mushore you an inspiration.!

[@kevinmakumbe]

Sad we have enemies of progress sitting in positions of power, thanks for having this great man

[@nigelmahachi7564]

Thank you Trevor for your brave and candid conversations. Best one yet !!!

[@harrisonchirwa8763]

"Insightful" please bring him bàck for a part two thumbs up anyone supporting me

[@gorsam1979]

Another gem of an interview Trevor. You keep showing us the great minds of Zimbabwe and how the ZanuPF gvt slowly destroyed them/us/country.

[@tjgunguwo]

One of the best interviews I have watched. We need a part 2 please

[@vimbainasheeileenpencil]

Fantastic interview 👏. Thank you Mr Trevor

[@msi4063]

To think a few months ago Gideon Gono sat in the studio and spoke as if he was a victim. It definitely changed how I looked at him but I also realized how warped a perspective certain people in Zimbabwe have about their part in the chaos and destruction we currently lay in. Anyone who is anyone knows Gono bought a lot of vehicles and property from distressed individuals due to him having access to forex that others didn't have, all the while having legitimate businesses and private bankers rung like a wet rag for every penny they had. This Interviewing platform has been great and often full of suprisingly candid revelations.

[@tonderaimazingaizo4669]

Enlightening, touching.... it confirms that my departure from zim was not an emotional act. We are going nowhere slowly as a country

[@donaldnyakudya196]

Brilliant interview;great show.Thank you Mr Trevor for the show.Thanks to Mr James Mushore for the wisdom nuggets

[@jonathanc3570]

I hope Mr Mushore is in the middle of writing a book. He has a lot of great information and lessons to share

[@MrAlfredWaniwa]

Interesting flip side of the RBZ "Cyclone Gono" era. He was here and talked briefly about it. Great to get all sides of any story. Thank you Mr Ncube for trying to bring a balanced view to all the conversations. Hope to see Takwana Tyaranini (Senditoo Co-Founder) on the show someday (or did I already miss that)

[@alexanderseketere5242]

I like this Mr mushore you are something else kudos to you Sir

[@naiceeuploads8241]

Anyone setting up a biz in Zim should not be naive to think that this could never happen to them.

[@jameschaitwa2122]

Good conversation to start of a Monday

[@farayimatemadombo413]

Candid interview that enlighten the position where country is and where it is going. It is a status of same vicious circle 🔵 from the beginning and country is not going anywhere soon in terms of development and change

[@majobho2034]

Trevor I think James needs to come back for part 2. There was plenty he wanted to inform us.

[@malvinchadzamira7197]

Had the privilege of being awarded an ACCA top student award by James. Interesting gone on to work for top global investment banks. This is one of the best l have watched. l also had the privilege as well of knowing Solomon Guramatunhu who also featured on the talk show.

[@funnynrandoms9637]

I remember you working at Jameson Hotel before moving to Blues. You were book boxer then! 😁

[@lillycee5054]

Hi Malvin did you go to Founders High?

[@Innonyaude]

A tough ordeal to go through but I salute the resilience. A tough conclusion as well on the realities of the current system and setup

[@EltonMutize]

What an interview! Thanks Trevor for bringing James Mushore on, he is one of the pillars and pioneers of investment banking in Zimbabwe. Kudos! Why do the Zimbabwean authorities continue to kill the spirit of entrepreneurship?

[@Shawn_G_]

Truly truly a quality conversation.

[@frankarthur8397]

one common thing amoung all successful individuals the government at one point tried to bring them down by the use of the state securities

[@cynthiancube5942]

Great interview Trevor. Thank you

[@funnynrandoms9637]

Confirmed my suspicions all along. Gono and Kasukuwere were knee deep into this rot!!

[@NigelNyashaManhire]

great interview. Its interesting how it always leads back to comparisons like Singapore and Malaysia, political will to transform situations is crucial

[@mosesmusekiwa4842]

This interview shows there are people in high office who have no interest whatsoever to improve the country. My sympathies for Kasukuwere have disappeared given his involvement in this

[@wellingtonhokonya8118]

vaidyaaa, vakadyaaa

[@tjgunguwo]

Kikikiki

[@jdsamuriwo8023]

One of the best interviews I’ve listened to, riveting!

[@kumbiektw]

Thanks for this conversation...I’m personally still waiting for your interview Trevor...Sadly I feel we are under our own oppression as black people or in our case,Zimbabweans.We have mentally enslaved ourselves to the point that we don’t trust us.This mindset needs to change.I’ve also realised from all the people you have interviewed,those that went to the so called “A” schools, seem to have a different opinion on how to run our country,politically and economically.Most “A” school taught,want to be capitalistic and want the country to progress that way...and then we have the political issues where we have those that want the country to operate based on power and links that fought against the white government during the liberation struggle.What we fail to realise,however is that,we all suffered and still suffering under the white regime.Economically,we do not have the power to be challenging how the economy works because we are not in a position to do so,until we become one AFRICA.

[@chidomharapara941]

Quality conversation indeed; absolutely inspiring.

[@finsensetv]

Thank you for this very insightful discussion Mr Ncube. I am proud that our nation in spite of it's many shortcomings has brilliant minds like Mr. Mushore. I am saddened by the fact that they were initially denied a banking licence because they didn't have a political patron. This needs to change. It's also regrettable that Mr. Mushore was not allowed to work in his capacity as Town Clerk. I have no doubt in my mind that he would have made tremendous changes and added great value.

[@shamin28]

Great interview

[@fwm146]

This is good. Really good.

[@livemedia1137]

Thanks Trevor

[@protestantchristian]

One of the best episodes, if I look at how entrepreneurs of this age helped each other rise, James Mushore's NMB assisting Strive,s Econet to list, Strive being a shareholder in Nigel Chanakira,s kingdom bank, the list goes on and on, absolutely inspirational

[@ashburn50]

Great interview. Very insightful. We have to do better as a country.

[@marthamachawi2249]

I learnt a lot from this interview. I come from a country with brilliant people. 💛💛

[@chirandu73]

Basically this is a job interview....and Mr. Mushore you have passed with flying colours👏🏽👏🏽. Changamire, honayiwo chakanaka chakanaka. Hope the powers-that-be are sitting up, listening and will give this man his job back as HRE Town Clerk! Let him build an amazing team of women and men around him vanogona basa...based on merit as he said. (Asi then also stay away mhani ma powers-that-be, and let him do his dang job 😬). Sounds like he already has the vision and enough wherewithal to turn our beautiful HRE around quicker than most of us can ever imagine. Then moisa pa repeat...replicate that model across cities/towns/rural town councils around Zim. Before we know it, we’ll be back to our glory and beyond....Zim strong🙌🏽💪🏽🇿🇼

[@tawandaemandizha2317]

Powerful!!!

[@xharareone9350]

The story is told!

[@martinchiwaranangatidza2039]

He was privileged for sure, what an intelligent guy.

[@aqua4497]

Martin - Yes. James was privileged yet he didn't relax or lose focus. A super hard working gentle giant.

[@archfordmabuka4448]

To get this country working again, we dont need 6 months.

[@alexanderseketere5242]

Very true my guy even in sanctions we can strive

[@watsonjocho6358]

Ten times watching this on youtube Trevor

[@kingtsepo]

Very insightful and Inspiring👌🏾

[@tafadzwakwaramba9241]

Please bring James Manyika for an episode

[@andymuto6296]

It kept me engrossed. A candid chat. He has seen it all. Fear vanquished. An agonizing nation, with a scattered people being led by brambles giving false hope for the past 40 years. Would they ever listen.

[@TheChachona]

At least people can see the real role of GONO

[@dumoluhlethebe3947]

Thank you so much Trevor. Your show is quite insightful.

[@calculust3033]

WE WANT MORE..... PART 2. CAN YOU ALSO SUMMARISE ALL THE KEY CONCERNS FOR ALL THESE GREAT INTERVIEWS AND SUBMIT TO THE POWERS THAT BE. ALL THESE PEOPLE CANT LIE, THEY CANT BE ANTI-PATRIOTIC. A sane leader will listen

[@mikem314]

Brilliant interview and what a talent. Unfortunately there is no place for people who want to turn things around for the better in Zimbabwe unless you are on the Demloot agenda.

[@euginezimunhu7693]

Sad indeed...

[@PG-wb3cq]

Fighting corruption makes one an enemy of the State. The country is spiralling down the toilet bowl of darkness.....

[@YamikaniNyalila]

Reminds me of the book Outliers by Malcolm Gladwell.

[@TSZee]

Contract for fixing Morton Jaffray Water Works went to the Chinese for US$110 million when the French had bid US$60 million :(

[@rojamillerover]

That alone sums up the interview

[@organiccommunitynetwork5548]

Shameful

[@SupremeGSPiggery]

From this intverview hapana kwatiri kuenda wonzwa mumwe achiti Saviour shld be president

[@weddiemakomichi2019]

Wow

[@theballadofkobirae7431]

Why aren't you guys on spotify

[@gmangladman]

@1:16 We will allow this 60-80+ generation time in power to pass. when our time comes we will settle down and talk about our future and enable the future generations to shape their own. I believe in 10 years (if not less) the clearer picture will be painted.

[@tanatswamuzenda2183]

Wise man indeed.

[@kudatamayi8610]

besides the fact that he is a CA (one of my favourite parts), I like the storyline of how he escaped Zim and the whole drama around his escape from remand, makes a good movie.

[@user-tt3gj2kn8d]

quite riveting interview, sad that our country, whilst it is wealthy of brain power such as these, politics comes first as opposed to what is good for our country. Quite sad :(

[@eddsonkamuruko489]

This is a great and revealing Interview. Hands Up for One of our Heroes. Trevor, Nigel, Strive, Peter NDORO, Hope well, Archbishop of Matebeleland. Pius Ncube was destroyed, live, for telling Bob and the Government the TRUTH. And MANY MORE ZIM INERLECTUALS, Compulsorily driven outside their beloved Country to all Ova- the World by CIRCUMSTANCES. To Compare Our Going Forward or Backwards, Please, Just Compare Harare CBD with SAM LEVY VILLAGE...

[@tawandachinhanu7972]

Trevor, I liked that question, Is it solely about ticking the box? We had ENG, we had kingdom. On this show, we also had Nigel explaining away. Please keep these shows coming So informative.

[@tawandachinhanu7972]

We also had Barbican, were they subsidiaries of NMB?

[@organiccommunitynetwork5548]

Inspiring to hear new ideas but Very sad how we destroy our own brothers .

[@kingtsepo]

Hunger for success 💪🏾

[@watsonjocho6358]

We need part 2 of this convasation ee need to empty this guy's bag its full .

[@shumbanewsnetwork4874]

Awesome interview the guy exudes intelligency and calls a spade a spade.

[@freedommukanga]

Interesting first hand information of how business is done in Zimbabwe. Sad approach to affairs by the state.

[@mikesithole4086]

2nd part pls.......

[@kudzaimasora7123]

Politics is just too much in this country

[@naiceeuploads8241]

Gono was a tyrant in the making!

[@kingtsepo]

1st black bank license👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾🔥

[@drydirty9821]

Imagine what Harare would have been like if Mushore had been allowed to just do his job

[@user-nw4qz3ej5i]

Hi

[@doumut1229]

Terrible experience by Mr Mushore😢

[@howardmukundu4720]

Trevor one of the best that you have had! What James said, feels and articulated is on every rightful thinking Zimbabwean this moment! The candidness and clarity of issues was exceptional! Zimbabwe is rich in human capital! Unfortunately those with power would rather utilise the half brains after money and women! Cry my beloved country!

[@tawandamwedzi5629]

I am here 2023 after election. 1:11:32

[@herbertmhangami]

Everyone should refuse to be used by Zanupf if you want the future generations to have a decent life.

[@mampofu1052]

For as long as we have corruption and sanctions, there'll be no progress even if another political party takes over from zanu

[@nuellamari1999]

@@mampofu1052 your opinion..it hasn't been tried..

[@mampofu1052]

@@nuellamari1999 It's an evidence based opinion. There's no country that has endured the combination of sanctions and corruption. That's the only promise.

[@rojamillerover]

@@mampofu1052 this has nothing to do with sanctions.Those sanctions were imposed on certain individuals not the country.As king as zanu members leave then we will be ok..We can survive with sanctions as long as there is no corruption.

[@mampofu1052]

@@rojamillerover Stop lying. Sanctions are equally contributing to poverty as much as corruption which is commonly found in ZANU and MDC. Every political party in Zim has corrupt individuals, including your party Nana Kazondo. You should learn to look at the bigger picture. As much as I hate corruption, it is fair to say that Zim is not the only that has corruption. Other countries have corruption but are still doing well, including developed countries.

[@nathanmajuru6317]

What is sad is that the gem that was NMBZ is now a mere shadow of its formee self. The current leadership running it are wrecking havoc. Last year Nobember loads and loads of workers were offloaded, branches were closed off and service is piss-poor!