The Rolling Stones About Brian Jones Crossfire Hurricane Documentary

[@joefrazier226]

Charlie and Bill were the only ones to go to the funeral, that says something!

[@falica77]

Would have been a media circus

[@empressohno]

Ian Stewart and his wife Cynthia also attended Brian's funeral.

[@aprilapril2]

Keith didn’t go to his parents funeral, nor his baby son. It’s just the way he rolls.

[@empressohno]

@simon templer ...Fuck off, halfwit.

[@empressohno]

@Paul Grey ..."past away"... you really are a cretin... It is "passed away". They did not miss Brian and I do not need a halfwit like you to lecture me on the Stones' history. I've forgotten more about them and Brian than you will ever know..

[@deeg8849]

Charlie's "it wasn't very nice" comment about them "firing" Brian presents the most honest view on how they handled Brian. Mick's "I felt aweful" comment is I believe is genuine coming from a man in his 70s who is reflecting on his life. But at the time, I believe it was a relieve. Keith's Rolling Stone interview in 71 talks quite honestly about Brian and with some sincerity. But he has been the cruelest ever since. Give your soul brother some respect Keef and stop slagging him or taking in direct shots. Happy 73rd Brian.

[@chrisbacos]

***** That ended when Anita dumped Brian for Keith.

[@Viajealduende]

chrisbacos Which happened after Brian gave Anita a beating, according to all authors, Brian wasn't a very solid person add all the pills and you've got a problematic situation.

[@honeylambb9864]

+Josh Swartzberg - Anita Pallenberg was very beautiful but she was a devil-worshipping groupie witch and deserved to be beaten up. She left Brian for Keith and was hoping to work her way up to the singer of the band but Mick wanted nothing to do with her and married Bianca instead. She was the one who got Brian into drugs. I would have loved to have been slapped around by Brian Jones. He was so good-looking it's crazy. Mick was so jealous of Brian's looks and how all the girls went crazy for Brian. And Mick was jealous of Brian's talent and ability to play 30 different musical instruments. Plus everybody respected Brian for his talent (Sir George Martin and all of the Beatles, Jimi Hendrix, Jim Morrison and Brian Wilson just to name a few).

[@blackeyedlily]

@@honeylambb9864 Deserved to be beaten up? You would have loved to have been beaten up by Brian? Anita may well have been an evil bitch, but no one deserves to be beaten. Even if you apparently think it might be a bit of fun.

[@celladora31]

@@Viajealduende He was deathly ill when she ditched him in Morocco and took off with Keith. Cause when you're terribly ill you like to use up your energy by beating up your gf????? Anita was charged with assaulting the police. She's gave just as good as she got. Brian was the abused one. She even beat up Keith a few times and don't forget that 18 year old boy found shot in her bed. Nothing to see folks, move along. Meanwhile Mick's gf is found hanged in their NYC apt but again nothing to see folks, move along.

[@randyking3057]

Firing Brian, Charlie must remember. He just didn't want to talk about it.

[@yeremiapatuan4877]

Randy King : Even Bill disgusts Mick and Keith for claiming that they're the founder of the Stones.

[@Davian67]

Notice how ruthless Keef talks about Brian, and also how ruthless he writes about Mick in his book called "Life." Without these two, Keef might never have gone anywhere, no gratitude whatsoever. Mick is nicer about Brian, and finally sets the record straight that it is indeed Brian on slide on "No Expectations." Without Brian, we wouldn't have Paint It Black, Under My Thumb, Ruby Tuesday, and all the wonderful colours he adds to their songs............

[@Davian67]

No kidding.

[@demonweber666]

Davian67 yoo toob grammer polyce

[@pleudumes]

Davian67 I think Brian Jones was the guy that always push the boundaries of their sound, without The Rolling Stones would still be playing Chuck Berry's songs

[@AtomicLobotomy]

Davian67 Keith Richards is always putting everybody down--he's put Mick down, he's put Brian down, he's just put the Beatles down again -- he's got a complex of some sort.

[@genericgeorge]

+Davian67 He actually had quite a hand writing Ruby Tuesday

[@honeylambb9864]

Sweet Brian. The Golden Stone. RIP

[@jayjay66111]

Honey Lambb yes sweet little brian, funny how death makes a saint of all of us. the truth was he was a very nasty piece of work and it was his own insecurity and jealousy that killed him, it's fashionable to blame mick and Keith nowadays but in truth it was all his own doing. fuck the woman beating scumbag

[@lindadote]

jayjay66111 ......I’ll bet you’ve read Keith’s book, I’m not interested enough to bother. Does he mention that after taking Anita away from Brian (a low act anyway you look at it but then she was always trouble) that he happily beat her too? I’m guessing there’s no mention of the couple being banned from Alitalia Airlines for punching each other about the restroom the entire flight from Rome to London? I think it’s hilarious that we’re even expected to believe the book when Keith was wasted for years. One thing he clearly remembers is playing all the guitars on Aftermath - he might want to reconsider his fascinating “recall” since that’s completely inaccurate and grossly unfair to Brian who played a whole lot more than guitar on that album. Some of us remember....

[@rebeccahernandez3460]

Jayjay66111. You know it’s not very nice to speak ill of the dead. He may have been all have been all the things you say, but he’s not around to defend himself is he? I think he was a troubled soul, a great talent, and by all accounts I’ve read he had a genius IQ. But I think he couldn’t handle the fame and so turned to drugs and Alcohol. I find it all sad. He was a terrific musician who could pick up any instrument and play it they say. How many people can do that? He left too soon. Who knows what he might have accomplished musically had he lived.

[@empressohno]

@@jayjay66111 ..professional Brian basher with a copy of Keefy's book wedged squarely up your arse. Keith, who has Swiss cheese for brains, after decades of heroin and meth abuse has perfect recall...what a joke. You are even more of a joke for buying into his bullshit which has morphed into urban legend after being bandied about for 45+ years. Brian beating up women..another joke. Where are all these women he supposedly roughed up? In this tell-all age of 15 minutes of fame, where are they...hmm??? You're an idiot.

[@noname.___]

@@jayjay66111 dumbass

[@yeremiapatuan4877]

Poor Brian, even Bill and Charlie couldn't help him.

[@gagasradika576]

I look you on every stones video’s

[@hektor-vektor7024]

they didnt try to help him thought did they ? he became a nuisance so they cut him off, the stones were all business and no heart

[@jayjay66111]

brittle avfc exactly mate, Brian jones downfall was all his own doing, Brian jones fans like to blame richards and jagger for somehow screwing him over but the truth is he was a nasty piece of work, although a very talented piece of work. they were a much better band without him anyway

[@kirkdavies1545]

AKN Concept just watched story on Bryan and they didn't Bryan is amazing and never got a 2nd chance so fuck the rest of the band

[@yeremiapatuan4877]

Hektor-Vektor : Well, the only 2 Stones members that could help Brian were Bill and Charlie. However, the circumstances were too complex for them to handle. I mean, Mick and Keith kicked him out harshly, and their manager completely agreed with them instead of making him move on or something. So, my conclusion is, Bill and Charlie were "pounded" by the unexpected situations.

[@krazyoldkatlady192]

Hektor-Vektor I don't think they knew how to help him. You can't force someone in Brian's state to pull themselves together. They have to be ready to do i on their own.

[@_Singularity_]

Lisa Mercado yeah, I dont think most of the people commenting on these videos understand what drug addiction is

[@mocheck]

Whats the Point of Contributing to Songs,when you get no Writing Credit/Royalties/Publishing etc..

[@ovalvox7888]

Bingo! Brian penned a number one song in Ruby Tuesday and Mick got his credit. Mick even admitted having nothing to do with the song. Brian’s lead guitar on the Last Time should have earned him a credit. It was the only thing original on a song Keith nicked from the Staples Singers. Another number one song thanks to his guitar playing.

[@missmax73]

"Finally" Eh??... What,finally he's out the way? Sheer jealousy. When Brian was on stage, your eyes were drawn to him & they knew it. He had it all. Firing him for drugs was just an excuse. No Jones,no Stones .

[@Revolver1981]

That's Keef for you. He's a cold man.

[@lindadote]

George Horner ......from all I’ve read, that’s the closest to the truth. Brian had quit the pills (quaaludes) and wasn’t drinking much. Hell, the night he died he had supposedly been partying but the autopsy findings revealed only a small amount of alcohol (the equivalent of 2 brandies) so he was hardly wasted. Brian’s whole story has been “glossed over” to the extent it’s difficult to know what to believe but I’m old enough to remember that a great many truths have been changed or omitted completely.

[@lindadote]

George Horner .......not to mention, Mick Taylor joined the band a clean young man but very quickly found himself using heroin too. Coupled with promised (but later denied) writing credits, he left the band but they’ve done absolutely nothing of interest to me since sometime before MT’s departure. I understand their (continued) appeal but for me, it was the earlier (Brian-era) songs that always made for fresh and exciting listening and after Mick Taylor left, they settled into a tried and true formula that imo, was regrettably neither interesting nor memorable.

[@avh1928]

You dumbasses. He meant finally as in it was expected.

[@kimmyfriedman1055]

Exactly! No Jones, no Stones!

[@skummelkatt]

Awful ungrateful vultures... Especially Keith. The man who became the parody of himself. Mick seem somewhat honest. Although I have the greatest understanding that dealing with a heavily depressed alcoholic wasn't easy in the end. This is not worthy. Brian started the band with Stu, gave the band it's name and promoted the band, and gave his heart into it from the start. His addings of instruments made the songs stand out. Give him his fucking credit and dignity back. You could at least have mentioned that he got more sober and cleaner after he left the band and that he had plans going. Alexis Korner, Lewis Jones... I mean everyone who visited him at Cotchford said that Brian seemed happier than ever in that dreadful summer in 69. He wasn't' the lost junkie at the time he died.

[@empressohno]

Brian was never a lost junkie to begin with.

[@dindjarin7185]

@@empressohno Hi Gideon whats up ? ! haha You do your bully self no favours and give yourself away so stupidly. That's why I laugh! So dumb Gideon, Linda Jones, Glass Onion, Mirabelle Starr we know your the same person ! If you get out of school, I ponder your vocation. Your not a very good internet criminal as you are so obvious in any case. Its like the thief who left his wallet at the scene. So funny.

[@dindjarin7185]

@@empressohno Sales and popularity means everything. That's why Justin Bieber is better than Rush? The beatles are an overrated, pop boy band and laypeople love mediocrity; which is why they love the beatles.😂

[@dindjarin7185]

@@empressohno Brian was lost as a junkie you clueless gideon harris beatles prat

[@lucluc9541]

Brian was the BEST of the RS

[@dindjarin7185]

After Mick and Keith

[@instantkarma8777]

Yes he was. He was also the most popular with the fans. Footage of the crowds in their filmed early concerts, show the girls screaming for him and holding Brian signs. He was a good friend of The Beatles especially John who praised him, and George was the closest to him, where he would visit him and Patti often. He and George would jam, playing guitars and sitars. Jim Morrison was inspired by him, even writing a poem dedicated to him. Roger Daltry spoke very highly of him saying they were close. Same as Pete Townshend. He said it broke his heart to see his friends downfall and also wrote a touching poem dedicated to him. _A Normal Day for Brian, A Man Who Died Everyday_ He also said he regretted the line "I hope I die before I get old" in My Generation because of Brian and because he had so much more talent to give. Jimi Hendrix on Dick Cavett Show dedicated his performance to him as a tribute. He said he owed Brian for introducing him to American audiences at Monteray. Brian also played on his recording of All Along The Watchtower. * Not ONE of these artists said Brian was mean or nasty. They liked him. Perhaps it was the Stone's environment that in Charlie's words, "made him not nice"?

[@flinchey6962]

Brian was a genius, no Jones no Stones he named the band he got them the gigs he chose the music direction he could literally play anything he touched, During the recording of Beggars Banquet and he showed up Keith and Mick told jimmy miller to tell him to “get the hell out” they didn’t give a shit about him, I love the mick Taylor years but Brian was special

[@maxitheshow1656]

That's The Clash

[@madeleinehague648]

'Just started the bio by Paul Trynka. What a sad, loveless childhood Brian had. Bound to make anybody mean, unhappy. Keith grew up with a single mom, no money, but there was love in the family. Brian could be so mean and so out of it. But, looking at his childhood sheds a light. How things change...he was the most accomplished musician when the band formed.

[@puplover7991]

It was as if Brian wrote his own musical epitaph w/ No Expectations.

[@skullz2244]

How in the world??? Did they literally just say 'finally' and they were told their FRIEND AND FORMER BAND MATE died?!

[@majorsmythe1]

It was inevitable, all knew it. He was a serious addict. Like Jim Morrison too, some people you know wont make it.

[@empressohno]

@@majorsmythe1 ...he was not a serious addict. He gave up all barbiturates by November 1968 when he moved into Cotchford Farm. By that time in 1968, Keith was already a heroin addict, aided and abetted no doubt by Pallenberg. Brian never touched the stuff, ever.

[@kimmyfriedman1055]

They were behind his murder! Who do you think hired Frank Thorogood and Tom Keylock? Frank Thorogood actually confessed on his death bed. This is not a conspiracy theory. It's the truth!

[@kimmyfriedman1055]

@simon templer you are probably a junky yourself!

[@kimmyfriedman1055]

@simon templer what makes you think she isn't using her real name? She happens to be a friend of mine! Btw, I am definitely using my real name! Also, nothing about Brian is bullshit!

[@nonesense5536]

Brian Jones was the man

[@jeffoliver2298]

Keith saying he didn't attend Brian's funeral because funerals aren't his thing, and that they don't do funerals in his family, is rubbish. Brian and Keith had fallen out for good over Keith stealing Anita Pallenberg from him. Brian never ever forgave Keith for that. The two were now enemies. Bill Wyman said in an interview at the time that Keith couldn't attend Brian's funeral because "he was working in the studio" - Bill implied it was ok because Keith was busy. However in Bill's book "Stone Alone", which came out 21 years later in 1990, Bill says that he was "saddened by the absence of Keith".

[@matthewcassar1395]

Well Keith also said in the video that it would have been too much of a circus if he attended, probably because of the intense beef between him and Brian. Honestly, Keith is the most disrespectful towards Brian out of them all. At least Mick regrets what he did and wishes they could have done better with Brian.

[@greenfigtree]

how can you say finally after your friend's death? no matter what...

[@monarch770]

because they seen his mental heath dwindling, i wouldn’t want to see my friend going crazy every time in the studio.

[@_Singularity_]

they weren't friends by the time he died

[@krazyoldkatlady192]

A. I understand what Keith meant though. It seems he meant that Brian's suffering was finally over and that he is now in a happier, peaceful place. Not that he wanted him one.

[@brogoram]

They saw it coming by the way brian's lifestyle. They just didnt know when it would happen. Plus...they arent friends anymore at the time

[@marty6779]

"Finally" not the positive way, more like "it was bound to happen sooner ir later"

[@jeffsmith2022]

Brian needed help, his band mates bailed on him, well done...

[@catherinecrow5662]

literally. Keith & "she "who will not be named" to quote Brian, left him in Africa with no money or way to get back to England.

[@melissawright1979]

I understand why they fired him. But the way he was treated after was just awful. After they fired him they straight away hired someone else and went straight to press dangling him in front of Brian. By then Brian had lost everything; his girlfriend, his band etc. And they never tried to help him they just left him to rot. And for them to say "finally" after he died is just cruel and disrespectful. And Mick should have gone to the funeral, no questions asked. Poor Brian x x

[@jamesbrad77]

Missy -- I just watched Rock'n Roll Circus. Brian was in there, being pretty useless. They offered him a lot of money, he took it. And, later, some guy killed him. Anyway, the film is underrated, and shows the Stones to be the greatest Rock and Roll band in the world. Just ask John Lennon!

[@melissawright1979]

Brad Seawell yeah they are a great band. Yeah they gave him money etc but they still treated him badly after firing him that's all I'm saying

[@lindadote]

Melissa Wright .......I’m always completely baffled reading of this “vast wealth” supposedly bestowed on Brian. I was a Stones fan in Brian’s time and have *never* read a solitary article stating Brian received any money. The man was dead literally weeks after he was “ousted” from the band so he must have made damned fast use of all this money. Oh, there was plenty of “talk” about it, (Brian owned the band-name after all) but I’ve yet to see any documented proof that Brian or *anyone* connected to him, saw a penny.

[@melissawright1979]

@@lindadote Well there you go!! And even if they did give him money, that still doesn't make up for the fact they fired him from the very band he created. I understand he was very rebellious and wayward. He must have been a pain in the arse to work with. But they should have got him help, sent him to rehab, staged an intervention. Maybe he just needed to know that he had people who cared about him and wanted him to get better. I don't know. I just feel they gave up on him too easily X X

[@lindadote]

Melissa Wright .......I agree with you that they could have done more to help Brian but it wasn’t in their interests to. To my mind, Jagger and Richards only reinforced the fact that they’re a miserable pair by treating Mick Taylor no better, Mick was promised then denied credit, he never saw his due. They’re forever mouthing off that they “could have handled things differently” with Brian. While it’s too late for Brian, they’ve had every opportunity to see Mick Taylor right so what’s stopping them? They’re despicable people and no amount of money can buy “class”, that pair is proof positive. Incidentally, I always thought Brian left the band of his own accord but given the appalling way he was treated, I doubt anyone could blame him. Regardless, the “money” thing is a broken record, Brian certainly didn’t see any. If Brian was so financially secure, it seems odd that Bob Dylan would pay for Brian’s casket.

[@wallawallacatsmeat]

What do they about not speaking ill of the dead? Why such the bad press? Did Brian Jones take over the Rolling Stones after it was formed by Mick and Keith and they had done all of the hard work to get it up and going? Did he take over the song writing duties relegating Mick and Keith to lower profiles. Did he end up with Keith's girlfriend? Did he take over harmonica duties from Mick? Did he try to isolate Mick and Keith from the rest of the band by ridiculing them and letting them indulge in their habits that led to ill mental health and their untimely deaths? Did he try to try to exclude Mick and Keith from having their song writing contributions recognised?

[@RollingOrmond]

Read the new book about Brian Jones by Paul Trynka. Fresh interviews with engineers and friends reveal Mick and Keith tormented Brian endlessly, were jealous of his being the favorite Stone in LA, and gradually stole all his tricks. The 'he just wasted himself' bit is fifty years of the party-line. I'll never think of them the same way again.

[@Grogster2]

I agree. Never believed the line that he was constantly wasted so couldn't contribute...that there is a lie! There is one, maybe two pieces of footage where yes he was wasted, but so was Keith half the time. The other footage like the RnRoll Circus, they turn his volume down. Then on the track they couldn't turn him down (No Expectations) he gives an immaculate performance, fragile but powerful. There are other examples i could reel off......

[@pauldeo]

Mick was a jealous Leo. I'm sure it wasn't suicide.

[@RollingOrmond]

Paul Deo Don't think Mick murdered him. Probably a builder

[@Azatarot75]

And why should I trust Paul Trynka to be telling me the truth?

[@RollingOrmond]

Azatarot75 Because he is a trusted former editor of a major music magazine (Mojo), and all the Stones people he claims to have interviewed (Marianne Faithfull, George Chiantz, etc.) would sue him for misrepresentation if he was lying.

[@mrktyb]

Mick and Keith destroyed Brian Jones mentally. He was no saint but they gave him any help of any kind. They were very very mean with him. Afterwards, Keith was simply jealous of Mick Taylor.

[@kathybreakwell847]

ABSOLUTELY!!!!

[@coyoteailstock9498]

How was he jealous of Mick Taylor exactly?

[@lindadote]

Coyote Alistock ......Keith was envious of Brian’s talent and made his short life a complete misery. I guess he thought his problems were over with Brian out of the picture (permanently) but along came Mick Taylor, a virtuoso guitarist who played circles around Keith. Neither man received an iota of credit for their considerable musical contributions. I’ve always liked Sticky Fingers and my favourite songs off the album (“Moonlight Mile” and “Sway”) were *both* composed while Keith was otherwise occupied. Then there’s Taylor’s beautiful guitar on TWFNO but for a band with as vast a catalogue as the Stones, like Brian before him, they couldn’t bring themselves to acknowledge credit for the few songs Mick Taylor added so very much to.

[@girlfullofsorrow]

I despise bullies 😒

[@dindjarin7185]

@@lindadote Hi Gideon whats up ? ! haha You do your bully self no favours and give yourself away so stupidly. That's why I laugh! So dumb Gideon, Linda Jones, Glass Onion, Mirabelle Starr we know your the same person ! If you get out of school, I ponder your vocation. Your not a very good internet criminal as you are so obvious in any case. Its like the thief who left his wallet at the scene. So funny.

[@tbuchana58]

Brian is missed and mourned to this day. Will anyone feel that way toward Jagger and Richard? I recently read an interview with Keith, and he was asked who did you miss the most. He mentioned Ian Stewart, Gram Parsons, and Bobby Keyes. Try as they might, they can't erase Brian's life, contributions, and legacy.

[@Jamestele1]

None of the Stones' 66-68 "Pop era" or "Psychedelic" stuff would exist without Brian Jones - my fellow Welshman! Brian played the flute on Ruby Tuesday, the sitar on Paint it Black, the marimbas on Under My Thumb. He was the reason that, unlike the Beatles, the Stones could play their Psychedelic Pop live. Unfortunately, he was also the reason that they could rarely play it live! So sad. Nos Da my Welsh hero

[@instantkarma8777]

Sorry to correct... it was recorder on Ruby Tuesday✌️😉

[@dannyd1572]

I was thinking in an interview with this director he said the interveiws were all done in the dark and that each member of the Stones had to take a time out when they began speaking about Brian.

[@kenmills30]

Maybe the difference between those like Brian Jones and Syd Barrett is they are true artists not bound by time schedules, business demands, ambition and career empire building. Probably they go off the rails because a creative mind caught up in all that loses its' true focus whereas though the others are talented, more focused, disciplined and professional they're just not on that dangerous plane of the poetic imagination which likes of Barrett and Jones were on. And don't start talking about drugs or whatever, of course once they lost that balance between their artistic vision and the material demands and drill of the business they ended up trying to supplement it with excessive chemical assistance with all the deteriorating consequences and descent into creative atrophy.

[@AtomicLobotomy]

Really bad the way Keith Richards and Mick Jagger put Brian Jones down -- FOR SHAME !!! Brian Jones made them who they are. If they cannot see that (and they still perform as the Rolling Stones, a tribute band to what Brian Jones created), they're not just ungrateful, they're both fools.

[@jamesbrad77]

Hey, let's remember that before Mick and Keith may have picked on Brian, Keith and Brian ganged up on Mick calling him Brenda the bitch. So, maybe Keith's the nasty problem. Doesn't detract from hims artistry.

[@steveconn]

+Brad Seawell Keith didn't call him Brenda till the 80's.

[@steveconn]

***** I think he has a certain honor regarding women and old bluesmen, but he just can't acknowledge that Brian was the stylish blues aficionado when he was still a charismaless novice and he owes so much to him, so he nervously shits on his memory. The heroin abuse is another issue: turns the user into a zombie not necessarily in command of their actions.

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[@empressohno]

Brian was long gone before Keith trotted out the term "Brenda" to refer to El Micko. Where do you get your information? The Glimmer assault on Brian began as early as 1964. Make no bones about it: Jaggerini was the ringleader, aided and abetted by Loog Oldham. Spineless Keith fell in with them to the detriment of the guy who hired and mentored them in the early days...Brian!

[@rsears78]

Brian wrote the Rice Crispies Jingle. Look it up

[@guinnesstrail6799]

It was Brian Jones' band, Mick and Keef usurped him and it broke his heart. Time is the great equalizer, and in a few short years they all will be gone.

[@matthewcassar1395]

I think they've got many more years left mate. They're still in great physical condition even in their late 70s.

[@billsmith6884]

"Keith and I took drugs, but Brian took too many and the wrong type". Keith has the sallow look of a junky in this footage, so what exactly is the wrong type of drug?

[@petrosmavrodimos1121]

Barbiturates

[@empressohno]

@@petrosmavrodimos1121 ..no ...heroin and amphetamines. Excessive use of methamphetamine brings about changes in facial bone structure. The changes in Keefy's face are from much more than just normal aging. He has the thick forehead ridge of a meth freak...not very attractive. How many times has he had teeth reconstructed from serious long term drug use? His teeth were rotting out of his head as far back as 1969. He always had leechy looking skin unlike Brian who had a complexion like porcelain.

[@empressohno]

The wrong type of drug is heroin which Brian NEVER touched. he was afraid of it. As for the other two...Keith was a roll-in the -gutter-junkie, aided and abetted by that other roll-in-the-gutter junkie Pallenberg. Jagger used enough of it to prompt Jerry Hall to tell him he had to stop using if he wanted to be with her.

[@lindadote]

The_Lady_Jones ........I once read Jagger was too tight-fisted to buy dope, sounds about right.

[@aprilapril2]

The_Lady_Jones change in bone structure? I don’t know about that. Keith rarely slept. He didn’t eat much. Whatever he was doing his given him incredible longevity . Still gigging into his 70 s. Keith took top quality clean pharmaceutical heroin. Not meth as it didn’t exist for them back then. Keith admits he would be dead had he been a junky in the 2000s as the gear now off the streets is filthy.

[@beatlesbabealltheway]

Mick and Keith didnt even go to his funeral, and to top it all off the rolling stones just played a concert this past july 3rd (which was the 50th anniversary of Brians death) and they didnt care to do a tribute to him or even give him a shout out or acknowledge him in any way😒

[@marty6779]

It's been over for 50 years. It's sad, very sad, yes. But it doesn't matter anymore.

[@lindadote]

MiCawber 72 .......for some, it will *always* matter.

[@empressohno]

@Paul Grey ...fuck off Keefwit. IT WILL ALWAYS MATTER. BRIAN WAS THE FOUNDER OF THE ROLLING STONES..THEY CANT; ERASE THAT FACT TRY AS THEY MAY.

[@empressohno]

@Paul Grey ...You really are a Stoneoid twit. Why don't you walk your dumb ass over to the Rolling Stones official website and read Brian's bio. Nothing there about him being the FOUNDER. They take credit for "forming the band" which is total bollocks. They were perfectly fine with the plaque on Track Three at Dartford train station which gave them credit for founding the band. Bill Wyman objected, brought it to the Dartford Council's attention, and the plaque was removed. Keith's RRHOF speech was a total disgrace! Sod off, moron.

[@empressohno]

@Paul Grey ...Brian Jones was the FOUNDER of the band and no amount of caterwauling on your part can alter that fact, you dipshit. Brian placed an ad in the London Jazz News in May 1962. Ian Stewart was the first musician to respond. You're one to talk about different profiles with your sycophant alter ego Simple Simon. Fuck off.

[@AtomicLobotomy]

There were four Grand Masters that laid the foundations of the 60s Rock Revolution -- John Lennon, who founded the Beatles, Brian Jones, who founded the Rolling Stones, Bob Dylan, who brought Anglo-American folk tradition into rock, and Jimi Hendrix who led the whole party, musically speaking, up the stairway to heaven. Brian Jones recruited Richards and Jagger, who were wet behind the ears, and taught them everything they knew about music. Without Jones, Jagger would have ended up being school teacher, and gigolo in Soho on the weekends to earn extra money. Richards would never have made it on his own in 60s London rock world -- maybe as rhythm guitarist with the Zombies.

[@ursulaplatt5000]

Well said!

[@jojoheartspaypay]

I can see mick turning tricks, lol but that would be after the economics gig dries up.

[@NormBa]

Such a sad poignant lick. He 's saying something through it.

[@missmax73]

Fact is- they have never given him the credit he deserves. For forming & driving the band when they had no money & lived in squalor. Were it not for Brian Jones they wouldn't be where they are now. And they repaid him by belittling him & forcing him out of his own band. Oh,and lets not forget,stealing his girlfriend. Keith could have said no to that horror Anita. And after he dies,they continue to either badmouth him or pretend he never existed. Vicious & jealous,through & through. Brian Jones is and will always be,THE Rolling Stone.

[@lindadote]

Tyler Molly .......things get blown out of proportion, Brian’s peers were fond of him. It was Bob who paid for Brian’s casket.

[@lindadote]

Tyler Molly .......you’re obviously too young to know the truth so you take the Glimmers at their (grossly inaccurate) word. However, I’m old enough to remember Brian’s time with the Stones and to this day, besides a few numbers from Mick Taylor’s tenure, it’s the songs with Brian’s input that sound infinitely better than anything else they ever did. It’s not terribly difficult to work out why they’ve *never* recaptured their initial sound but instead the band has been content to regurgitate the same tired old crap for 45+ years now - why bother to experiment when fans will buy any old shit you release? I only *ever* liked their early work up to and including Sticky Fingers but for the most part, the early Brian-era songs, that was when *everyone* bought Stones albums.

[@lindadote]

Tyler Molly ......my apologies, I thought you might be a younger listener. Yes, everything you say is true but that doesn’t alter the fact that the Brain-era Stones had a unique sound thanks (in no small part) to Brian’s varied instrumental contributions. I knew Some Girls sold well but album sales aren’t really a great indication imo, I thought it sounded the same as preceding albums - raucous, repetitive and forgettable. The very sound of the band changed drastically from the exciting early years when musically, you never knew what to expect, again, thanks to Brian’s input. There doesn’t appear to be any “happy medium” when it comes to Stones fans but it will always be the earlier songs that sound best to me. I seriously tried to like Exile (thought I was missing something since I’d really enjoyed Sticky Fingers) but it doesn’t do it for me at all. While the Stones have enjoyed decades of commercial success, nothing they’ve done since very early ‘70’s ever reignited my initial interest, the music became altogether too predictable but of course, that’s only my personal opinion and/or preference. Given there was no shortage of quality music back then, in truth, I far preferred other artists’, loved the early Stones but the band quickly “fizzled out” for me. Yes, I’m familiar with the early Bluesmen (love the real thing) but thanks anyway. I do feel you’re selling Brian short, I always loved his work and never bought the “useless druggie” business. Brian played percussion on Jimi Hendrix’ official release of All Along The Watchtower as late as 1968, so I’m inclined to believe reports Brian had cleaned his act up prior to his death, something I believe Keith even acknowledged in his book somewhat contradicting his own previous declarations. Nah, it’s all too convenient for the Glimmers’ to write Brian out since I feel (however fleeting his tenure), Brian’s contributions were what saw the band gain such popularity in the first place. Ultimately, I’m sure you’d agree, music is only what it means to us as individuals.

[@empressohno]

@Anderson Cooper ...perhaps you should acquaint yourself with Bo Diddley's praise and admiration for Brian before you make another smug post.

[@empressohno]

@Anderson Cooper ...thank you so much for your over-simplified version of Brian's life and the early history of the Rolling Stones...not. That was sarcasm in case it went over your head. Mick and Keith are well-documented plagiarists who built on riffs the band, namely Brian and Bill, worked out first but did not see fit to share songwriting credits. Brian's contributions of arrangements and musical "coloration", as well as being one-half of the "guitar-weavers" make him legend. As for the resentment bit, you've got that backward. Brian was the founder of the band. He hired the two ingrates who couldn't even read or write music and mentored them musically. He was superior to them on so many levels: musically, intellectually, culturally, his golden beauty, and as an imagemeister. They still resent him to this day. Lacking the brains, balls, talent, and sheer determination to form their own group they had to steal one in the most insidious manner imaginable. To add further insult to injury, they concocted their ridiculous story about Brian's drug addictions as an excuse to force him out of the band he alone created. Gullible know-it-alls such as yourself still believe their malarkey. You should acquaint yourself with Bo Diddley's praise and admiration for Brian before you make another smug post.

[@ziggyzappada4554]

"The future of The Rolling Stones is uncertain".. yeah, only for you Brian, if only he had a 'Crystal Ball'.

[@jamesbrad77]

I was born in a crossfire hurricane. "According to a biography of Keith Richards, the first line of the song, "I was born in a crossfire hurricane," is a reference to the fact that Richards was born near London during World War II in the midst of a German air raid."

[@FlatLeeo]

Indeed Keith, Hyde Park was the funeral...OF THE ROLLING STONES!!

[@monarch770]

Leolo best albums of their career happened after Hyde Park... ironic

[@lindadote]

MonArch .......that may be but much of the material on those (earlier) post-Jones albums had already been written while Brian was still very much in the picture. To this day, the Stones setlist consists largely of songs from Brian’s time with the band.

[@michaelshook402]

Their funeral was tattoo you.

[@monarch770]

Linda Jones All great songs indeed. But all spread out into more then 2 albums. Because they released at least 2 each year in the early stages (Brian years). But with Mick Taylor they had song(s) full of great hits and beautiful guitar work which is his job. Not to be a marimba player in the background. No disrespect but u don’t see Brains name next to Marimba Player:, you see him as a guitar player, all the rest of that stuff is irrelevant to me.

[@lindadote]

MonArch ......the “marimba” or other instruments may be irrelevant to you but it was Brian who thought outside the box and incorporated these instruments, making for interesting, exciting listening. The songs I listed are ones I like but there’s no denying Brian’s contribution was far more than (I thought) you inferred. I loved Mick Taylor’s gorgeous playing too (beautiful guitarist) but *something* changed after the early ‘70’s, whether it was the music or my personal taste, I wasn’t sure for a few years, ultimately, it was the Stones sound. I thought Sticky Fingers was fabulous (in fact, I won 2 copies on a radio quiz) but that was more thanks to MT’s and Ry Cooder’s contributions, it was a very “different” album imo. The track “Winter” (off Goats Head Soup) is lovely and of course, the fabulous “Time Waits For No One” showcases Mick Taylor’s beautiful playing but unfortunately, these are exceptions for me. Try as I might, I couldn’t get into “Exile” or anything that followed, I gave each album a fair listen, truly expecting to enjoy something but besides the couple already mentioned, nothing ever reignited the interest of earlier years. By the time Black And Blue came out, I was sick to death of the repetitive sound. Different strokes.....

[@andyreeve4711]

Poor kid..they kicked him out of his own band and he died really young. Tragic :((

[@dannyhart3982]

Brian Jones is the Rolling Stones, I don't why the stones still call themselves the stones anymore! No Brian no bill and no Ian Stewart so that's half the band gone the stones need to pack it in.

[@empressohno]

@Paul Grey.. .the same goes for you, Keefwit asshole.

[@kingmob2716]

How can someone be the band if they never wrote any songs and the best material happened after they've checked out?

[@jayk1534]

I really dislike the way the filmmakers repurposed the Maysles' footage from Gimme Shelter in this scene. Beginning around 4:00 they're actually listening to a playback of Wild Horses.

[@PaulMcCartney4Ever12]

I think Keith saying "finally" is really parallel to The Beach Boys' lead singer Mike Love's comments on drummer Dennis Wilson's death. Mike thought finally too. Brian and Dennis were both troubled individuals who took to drugs and had sporadic personalities. They had told Dennis that he is kicked out of the Beach Boys until he sobers up, which never came. Dennis drowned drunk. So they thought, wow, he is finally at peace. They knew had a death wish. Life was too troubling for him. As was for Brian. Let's just be grateful we had Brian for the albums that he was alive for and the talent he provided. Yes, the stones would be nothing about him, but that is now the most unoriginal over repeated thought. Brian was troubled and his death was inevitable. When Keith says finally it means he knows Brian is at peace now. That doesn't mean they did not love him. Keith was disappointed and Mick even cried. Rip Brian you beautiful genius.

[@Vatch1966]

I have to agree..Mick and especially Keith's attitude towards Brian is disgusting

[@f1driversassociation]

exactly

[@dindjarin7185]

@@f1driversassociation nope brian was disgusting

[@f1driversassociation]

@@dindjarin7185 i accept opinions,but thats mine

[@dindjarin7185]

@@f1driversassociation Your opinions are LAME !

[@f1driversassociation]

@@dindjarin7185 yessssss but they are my opinionsssss

[@TheaterPup]

"We listened to the Stones' first EP, I Wanna Be Your Man, with Brian's remarkable solo. Charlie was sitting on the couch with his back to the window, the lights of Los Angeles below. Keith flopped besides him. 'What happened to Brian?' Charlie asked. 'He did himself in,' Keith said. 'He had to outdo everybody, do more. If everybody was taking a thousand mikes of acid, he'd take two thousand of STP. He did himself in.' Charlie nodded sadly. 'It's a shame,' he said. 'Brian could do that'--nodding toward the record player--'without even trying'."--The True Adventures of the Rolling Stones by Stanley Booth

[@TheMrBennito]

Watts says that Brian wasn't easy to get along with. Pat Andrews, that he was cynical and self-absorbed. Yet also mentioned his virtues. As a musician, quite extraordinary. So I don't worship Brian Jones, yet I love the feel of his music and admire his craftsmanship

[@TheaterPup]

"We listened to the Stones' first EP, I Wanna Be Your Man, with Brian's remarkable solo. Charlie was sitting on the couch with his back to the window, the lights of Los Angeles below. Keith flopped besides him. 'What happened to Brian?' Charlie asked. 'He did himself in,' Keith said. 'He had to outdo everybody, do more. If everybody was taking a thousand mikes of acid, he'd take two thousand of STP. He did himself in.' Charlie nodded sadly. 'It's a shame,' he said. 'Brian could do that'--nodding toward the record player--'without even trying'."--The True Adventures of the Rolling Stones by Stanley Booth

[@thefoxygrandpa638]

i know this is an extremely sad story about brian's downfall (i myself am a huge fan) but you have to admit it is pretty funny how sad his life was after 67 and you think how could anyone live like that and also mick's reaction to being told that the death was actually two weeks later not a few months is a pretty hilariously sad moment

[@andrewparsons295]

Band relationships are tricky. Especially when song writing is lopsided. If you're not the lead singer, you're not writing the songs, to hang onto leadership and band direction is difficult if not impossible. Seems like Brian self destructed in light of his role diminishing.

[@diamond21450]

Fucking legends,,,,

[@diamond21450]

Not really sure what your saying my friend?

[@Azatarot75]

Mark Kent He's bascially a Brian cultist who is paying tribute to his wailing wall for the nine billionth time.

[@diamond21450]

greenmean1 Brilliant xx

[@diamond21450]

I like you xx

[@Azatarot75]

greenmean1 Yeah, never went away...and I'm as far from San Diego as you can get...BAKA!

[@dudarego1]

Mick and Keith stole many songs of Brian Jones, and did the same with Mick Taylor.

[@matthewcassar1395]

Erm Brian never even wrote a song for the Rolling Stones.

[@jonbr3]

No respect for jagger or Richards

[@dodibenabba1378]

As a guitarist, Mick Taylor is comfortably better than any other guitarist that has been in the Stones, Brian included.

[@jalisabradford6201]

You full of it 😂

[@MsKerryanne]

Mick was the only one that really felt bad out of all the rest .. Bastards..

[@gimletsez]

The bootleg four disc set, "Satanic Sessions," gives ample evidence of Brian Jones' work in the studio during the 1967 sessions for "Their Satanic Majesties Request." Contrary to legend that he was too fucked up on drugs to contribute more than a few overdubs to the album, his work on the mellotron (that amazing bizarre analog 'synthesizer') on nearly every track of the album is brilliant, particularly on "Citadel," "She's a Rainbow" (though Brian's beautiful melody that runs through each verse and spectacularly in each chorus, is virtually drowned out by JP Jones' strings arrangement of Brian's original work), and is a highlight of the more obscure closing number "On With The Show." And I haven't even mentioned his best known mellotron work -- that haunting extended theme/riff that makes "2000 Light Years from Home" a psychedelic masterpiece. Add to that his contributions on sitar, recorder and the harp, all more audible on these original session tapes than on the final release of the album (buried in the mix as a result of the limitations of four-track recording of the era), and you can hear for yourself how musically inventive the man was. It's a shame none of this material was used for the Klein-produced 50th anniversary 'deluxe' box set of TSMR.

[@gglucs1799]

Such a sad storie...

[@americanpatriot9865]

Give keith and mick some slack. Not one of us can say we acted properly in our lives toward someone. Its hypocritical!

[@empressohno]

I will give them slack when they do the same for Brian.

[@lindadote]

The_Lady_Jones ......I’m afraid I could *never* regain respect for either of them. The Glimmers’, not content with making Brian’s short life an absolute misery, continue to this day to delight in stripping Brian’s memory of any dignity whatsoever.

[@tee4082]

As evident as it is that Mick and Keith was always jealous of Brian, i can bet my ass that they both were secretly happy and gleaming about his downfall and eventual death. Ut was all about them for those two and it still is. They are not decent people, never have been.

[@johnmaritatowriterproducer336]

Lost all respect for the Rolling Stones for their treatment of Brian Jones and their generally not being accountable or stand-up guys about anything. They bullied Bill Wyman and stole the "Jumpin' Jack Flash" riff from him, ripped off Ry Cooder and on and on. I see Mick Jagger now and see a pathetic clown with kids all over the place from the women he used and discarded and Keith "the sage" still half-drunk or stoned all the time wasted away to bone.

[@Azatarot75]

Well, right now all I'm seeing is a loud Internet troll who only believes what he wants to hear.

[@kristidudley8010]

JOHN MARITATO WRITER/PRODUCER/EDITOR you dumb fuck and ps about mick having kids all over from women he used brian had like 8 kids he never saw or cared about seeing from women he used and cheated on and treated like shit so your insulting two other members for thing brian was just as guilty of....dumbass

[@Viajealduende]

JOHN MARITATO WRITER/PRODUCER/EDITOR I suggest you read more on the subject. All the books I've read seem to have some bs but the common demonitaor is Brian made his own bed. He had some very nasty mean streaks that wore thin on those around him. From early on he was mean to and jealous of Jagger, he tried to turn keith against him and tried to get him kicked out. Andrew Loog Oldham their manger wasn't having it and put Mick and Keith to writing. Brian lost control of the band by 64 and was bitter and jealous about it. However no one saiud he was actually a bad guy, he was liked and respected by many and had it not been for being wasted and useless at the end he'd might have stayed with them. A friend of Brian Jones said that he heard some demo recording's of Brian and while interesting had no form or close to a finished product. Re: Wyman, only Bill claimed he wrote the Jumping jack Flash opening line which is really Satisfaction sort of backwards and that's not the whole song. Have you listened to the Bill Wyman accredited the one or two Stones songs or his solo stuff? Not Stones material or any good for that matter. Bill Wyman's and Mick Taylor's solo careers produce nothing noteworthy went nowhere. In fact Ron Wood's solo records were much much better. What song did they rip off from Ry cooder? I've been a fan since I was 10, have read and seen most there is out there and don't remember that claim. Ry cooder played with them on a few things. Sister Morphine slide solo for example. Sure some claimed that they deserved more credit but really it's been Jagger/Richards that made the band with other contributions. The peak period was really done in the transition between Jones and Taylor with only minor but good contributions from either. Beggars Banquet and Let it Bleed. Taylor's first real record with them was Sticky fingers also a great record from their creative peak and he claimed that he should've gotten a credit for "Sway". Maybe he should have but it doesn't take away from their huge successes in their catalogue of music, in fact as good a song as that is, it's far from the top. Brian had had 6 boys from 6 women by his early 20's and father to none. Jagger while at first denied his paternity to his first child, later changed his attitude and has been around for all his kids as has Keith albeit, not exactly normal role models as parents. I get sick of all these clichés and rumours about these guys when in fact they've been loyal to all those who worked for them professionally. They're known for sticking to and treating very well the people they trust, inspite of the madnes of their youth in the 60's and 70's.

[@jam4hire1]

***** Agreed about Brian - self destructive guy on further investigation but the Stones are still not stand-up.

[@Viajealduende]

jam4hire1 Maybe not but how do you know? What facts do you have? I'm not even defending them now as much as love them as a band, I'm more sick of people talking trash on the internet, guilty of it myself but this culture of repeating rumours till their facts, at lest in our own minds has got to be called out. Famous people are often very ambitious and some even narcisistic, but now we all are on the social networks.

[@ClassicTVMan1981X]

3:01 - The London Bach Choir in action, rehearsing for "You Can't Always Get What You Want," of which they have the first 50 seconds of the song all to themselves. Arranged by Jack Nitzsche and Al Kooper, with Sir Mick Jagger assisting. The choir was the Knight's idea (the Knight being Sir Mick, of course). One of the singers in the choir is the mother of music journalist Richard Morton Jack, who was the editor of the telephone directory-sized music history book _Galactic Ramble_ (which documents the '60s/'70s British music scene) and the even more comprehensive _Endless Trip_ (which documents our nation's music scene from the '60s/'70s).

[@TheaterPup]

Nick Broomfield’s documentary ‘The Stones and Brian Jones’ will hit theaters Nov 7 and VOD on Nov. 17 (Rolling Stone magazine)

[@katandmojo]

I never believe any word out of the mouths of Jagger and Richards because they wanted Brian out of the group so bad they were setting things in motion for Brian's demise since 1966.. Brian knew it.. What could he do, shout to the whole world my band mates are thinking of ways to kill me?? No wonder it weight so heavy on his mind.. And all the crap you read is the propaganda Jagger and Richards picked out to put in front of your face all the time to convince you Brian needed so much help.. No Brian was murdered and it was set up by Jagger, Keylock, and A.Klein.. Once Brian bought a house with a swimming pool and Keylock was there all the time to keep Brian as a prisoner in his own house and the so called Builder Frank Thorogood was the perfect idiot that Jagger now had his plan to put in motion.. A. Klein could now keep the payoff money to get Brian to say he moved on and wanted out of the band, and Jagger could make sure with the others I stated that Brian drowned due to drugs which is just pure bullshit lies.. They held Brian under water till he drowned, they ransacked his house and burned his clothes.. Brian was an excellent swimmer read about it get your facts, and maybe if Jagger stopped paying off reporters and the Police in Sussex to keep the truth quiet maybe people will learn who Brain Jones really was, a man who named and put together the Rolling Stones.. A man with musical talents so great that it made all their number one hits so special, and by the way the Stones had no number one hits after Brian's murder.. Jagger you sold your soul to Satan, and Richards you are right there with him so you could keep making money and sing your way as if the Rolling Stones was founded and created by you.. You Jagger admired Brian so much you wanted to be him, so instead you had him murdered, I can't wait for you to rot in hell along with the rest of that murdering crowd.. Sign me I know the truth and I know why Jagger your afraid of me.

[@katandmojo]

cubomania3 Thanks. If you saw the early films then you can just see how they pushed Brian further and further to the back and out of the group with the so called pay off of money from A Klein, which Brian and his children never saw a dime of. Klein was to deliver the money after Brian made his so called statement he was leaving the group because of taste in music but that was just one of the many lies to make it look like Brian was doing this for his own sake.. But he was threatened with murder straight to his face all the time by Jagger. Even Marianne Faithful makes that clear as she saw it at Richards house in the Redlands.

[@katandmojo]

cubomania3 Hi Again yes if you get Marianne's first book she mentions at Redlands that's where Richards house is at.. Brian and Jagger got into it and started fighting.. All the while Jagger was saying he was going to kill Brian.. And we all know why.. Remember Marianne Faithful was Jagger's girlfriend so why would she lie and say this against Jagger if it wasn't true.. Also Marianne was into the spells called I-Ching and when she through the dice they said Brian would die by water.. When Brian got a house with a swimming pool Jagger had his motive and alibi.. Brian was more spiritual at his home in Sussex he was reading the Bible with his house maid Mary as a Church was right across the 15 acres of land Brian owned at the time.. Later some acres were sold off and I believe its down to just 11 acres now.. A Klein was to bring to Brian the amount in American money but it was in pounds English money about $100,000.00 to leave the group.. Of course murdering Brian meant it didn't have to be paid.. They are all guilty and I hope since Keylock, Klein, and Thorogood all have died I hope they all are in hell where they all belong and the rest soon to follow. The films won't help you learn of Brian's murder, they are all full of crap and lies to the hilt in order to Protect Jagger and Richards who know the truth of Brian's demise and their involvement.. Why do you think Wyman left the group?? He has a much better sense of being a far better person than money...

[@honeylambb9864]

+cubomania3 - It was rumoured that Brian was forming a "super-group" with John Lennon and Jimi Hendrix. If that was true, it would have driven Mick and Keith crazy because there is no way they could compete with Brian, Jimi and John in a band together, so another reason to kill Brian. Plus Brian owned the name "The Rolling Stones" and he wanted a lot of money for that name so it was cheaper for Allan Klein, MIck and Keith to just drown him or have someone drown him instead of paying him for the name. Allan Klein ended up almost bankrupting MIck and Keith in the early 1970's and Klein ripped off the Beatles for tons of money as well. Klein was a very nasty New York lawyer.

[@ziggyzappada4554]

Brian said it himself, I am not satisfied musically or personally, Brian was a liability to 'The Stones'... The best thing they did was fire him, but Keith had nothing to do with his murder!

[@ziggyzappada4554]

cubomania3 Because I know Frank Thorgood ( Brian's builder and handy man that was screwing Brian for more money than he deserved, Brian asked his accountant to stop further payment's ) Thorogood was very angry that he didn't get paid that night and arguments started between Brian and Thorogood, he held Brian under water until he drowned. The Police arrested him and held him for some time but hadn't enough evidence to prove murder. Police weren't happy that they had to let him go. Keith had no motive whatsoever to have anything to do with Brian's murder, he wasn't even at the 'party' the night Brian was murdered. There is so much evidence to support this, and thorogood made a bed side confession before he died. Cheers.

[@ziggyzappada4554]

cubomania3 Yes, possibly, but this is how it happened according to Brian's Swedish girlfriend Anna Wohlin, on the night of 2nd of July 1969, Brian and Thorogood were fighting over the fact that Brian told his accountant to put a stop on his payments ( Thorogoods ) for construction and maintenance work because Brian thought he was over charging him ( you have to remember money is one of the biggest motives for murder, and Thorogood wasn't getting paid! ) there were quite a few people 'leeching' off Brian and hanging around that night. The arguments had simmered, so around midnight, Brian, Anna and Thorogood went for a swim ( now whether Thorogood went into the pool for sinister reasons, is unknown ) but Anna went inside after awhile and left Brian and Thorogood in the pool, when Anna returned she saw Brian's lifeless body lying at the bottom of the pool, anna said when she was trying to get Brian's body out of the pool, Thorogood was in no hurry to help her ( although the paramedics said he had a pulse, and desperately tried to revive him, he was pronounced dead between the hours of midnight on 2-3 of July 69'.Anna had said she didn't know if Thorogood intentionally murdered Brian or, he may have been trying to intimidate Brian so he would pay him ( this may have gone to far and he held Brian under the water until he died, or just for to long unintentionally ) other people were seen jumping back fences and leaving when they knew what had happened, probably because illegal drugs were being used and didn't want to be involved, also put panic in to the mix. Thorogood was the last person to see Brian alive ( Police held Thorogood on suspicion of murder, but had to release him on lack of evidence, which they weren't happy about ) 'The Stones' were in the studio recording at the time. when Anna went to collect all of Brian's property from his home, she said it had been 'cleaned out' ( I suspect Thorogood would have been the person to do this, others could have been involved, as you said, maybe conspired to murder then rob his home of all his possessions ) all his expensive Persian rugs and guitars had been stolen, among other things. Thorogood was supposed to have given a bedside confession before his death to murdering Brian. Also Tom Keylock ( Brian's Minder ) said that Thorogood confessed the murder to him, but later said this wasn't so. As Brian's neighbor left for work on the 3rd of July 69' around 7.00 a.m. he saw a large bonfire coming from Brian's backyard burning documents. In 2009, Police on new evidence from Scott Jones ( An Investigative Journalist in the U.K. ) decided to review the case ( the first time since 69' ) but Police said the coroners report of 'Death by misadventure' was correct and didn't reopen the case. Scott Jones had told to 'Mail' in November 2008, that Thorogood had killed Brian in a fight ( after tracing several people who were there on the night ) and that a senior Police officer had covered the true cause of death. Brian had left 'The Stones' about a month before his death and Anna ( his Swedish girl friend ) said Brian had 'cleaned up his act' and was happy about forming another band, had no animosity towards any member of 'The Stones'. When Brian left 'The Stones' it was agreed Brian was given ( 200,000 pound, the equivalent of 1,000,000 Pound today ) plus 20,000 pound a year ( equivalent to about 200,000 pound today ) so he had no financial problems. The autopsy report reported that he had the equivalent of about 3 and a half beers in his system at the time of death plus a small amount of other drugs. Brian never died because he was intoxicated and then went for a swim and drowned (IMO)... he was murdered by Thorogood ( who may have conspired with others to kill him and take all his possessions ) but this is just speculation on my part, as I've read all I can about Brian as well as watched the movie 'Stoned' ( which was not an authorised movie by 'The Stones' ) Brian reminds me of several musicians of the time who used to use to many drugs ( Syd Barrett in particular, although I don't think Brian had a predisposition mentally like Syd, but would turn up to recording sessions if he felt like it, or up to it, and when he did he was either not able to function because he was using the wrong sort of drugs ( Barbituates, a powerful sedative/hypnotic that just made you want to sleep, I'm sure he smoked weed and did LSD also ) and was going in a different direction musically than the rest of 'The Stones' wanted ( Brian wanted to keep it strictly pure Blues ) Brian was a brilliant musician, especially slide guitar, harp and other instruments. Brian, Mick and Keith were very close friends to start with and went through a lot together. In my opinion Keith or any of 'The Stones' didn't have any motive to murder Brian, just conspiracy theories. Although he was put in the 27 club ( musicians who died at that age ) it was a coincidence I believe as Jimi, Janis and JIm ( Morrison )and others were murdered for reasons I won't get in to here. Cheers. :-)

[@ziggyzappada4554]

cubomania3 Yeah, that's all speculation, I'm not sure why he would want to burn documents, maybe 'dodgy' receipts, or something, I'm not sure about that, I just read what the neighbor said. I know many other musicians around that era were MKULTRA victims, Jimi Hendrix was murdered because of ties with the Panthers and he was a threat to the paranoid Government, 48 Panthers were murdered and if you count Tupac's ties with the Panthers 49 ( I think Suge had him murdered though for monetary gain, because Tupac wanted out of 'Death Row Records' and Suge is supposedly a 33 degree Mason, if you understand Freemasons and the Illuminati? ) Janis Joplin, Jim Morrison etc. I think were Government targets, as was John Lennon, but we won't get in to that here. Remember Thorogood was just a hired help to maintain Brian's property and do some construction work, so to me he was just a laborer who wanted to be paid for work he had done ( Imagine if you were expecting to be paid for the week, as he was I believe, and Brian telling him, no! he would have been pissed! ) I think it was intended by Thorogood to murder Brian, then steal all his belongings ) now whether he had help to do that I don't know, like I said it could have just been spontaneous when he had the opportunity in the pool. I wouldn't dismiss your theory completely though, as you never knew who was working for the highly illegal MKULTRA project, I believe Mark Chapman was ( because he actually like John ( Lennon ) he said later and admitted he may have been a pawn for them. So it's possible Thorogood was under mind control blah blah blah. I think you may be trying to make something more out of this than it was, yes, Brian was a little cunt sometimes to people and he could be a nice person. I don't believe any of 'The Stones' had anything to do with his murder, if that is the direction your trying to go. Brian was paid out and about to form a new blues band, Charlie is one of the nicest people you could ever meet, Bill wouldn't have it in him to do anything to Brian to hurt him. All the members of the band were in shock when they heard, Keith with all the media hype you hear about him, is a really good soul, Mick Jagger was crying in the corner and Charlie had to say "hey Mick, we have to move forward" Mick wouldn't murder Brian, or conspire to have him murdered. What point would it have served 'The Stones' to have Brian murdered? no motive, no animosity between the members even when Brian asked to leave the band ( that was a hard thing for the rest of the band to do as it was ) they owe it to Brian for forming the band ( even though it wasn't quite like the way the media say he formed it ) Ian 'Stu' Stewart was the main man to actually get the band together and was always referred to as the 'The Sixth Stone'. Marianne Faithful was a mouth and just wanted her own way all the time, Keith I know used to carry a knife for protection, he also carried guns, or had one in the glove box with him. I see what your trying to say, but I am big in to conspiracy theories, but I just never saw this for anymore than a pissed off worker who was ripping Brian off for thousands! apparently the accountant told Brian ( somewhere in the vicinity of 7,000 pound ( aprox. about the equivalent of 70,000 pound these days. ) a lot of money to be owed! If you have any evidence that any of 'The Stones' were in on it I would love links to them. I don't believe so. Cheers.

[@questguess69]

Keith Hall You haven't shown any proof that you knew Frank Thorogood or anyone intimate to Brian's death. You likely read Anna Wohlin's book and the other published biographies and absorbed a bunch of the details, just like me. Some facts to be gleaned from these - Keith originally hired Thorogood to work on his house, but experienced problems with him as a contractor and recommended to him that he instead go to work on Brian's new house. Tom Keylock worked for the Stones, knew Thorogood and was responsible for not protecting Brian's possesions after his death, most of which were burned in a bonfire (organized by Keylock who still worked for the Stones, but would later be fired) or stolen - more insult to the dead.

[@ziggyzappada4554]

questguess69 Yes I know! Mate! please don't try insult me by thinking you know more about 'The Stones' than I do, you don't, I have friends that know Sam Cutler ( Stones tour manager at one time ) very well, my partner knows him quite well, I've even smoked a joint with him at Woodford Jazz and Blues Festival, held here in Queensland every year, I've played gigs there myself ( he lives here in Brisbane, Australia ) I lived there for 18 years, but now live down the Gold coast, I am in the music industry myself these days, and know friends who know people close to Stones members. I've been a very long time huge Stone's fan, and have read more than just her book, if you want some real insight, read Tony Sanchez's ( Keith's drug handler and connection ) 'The Ups And Downs With the Rolling Stones'. I know all about Keylock, he knows what went down that night! If you are saying any of The Stones had anything to do with Brian's death, you're wrong!

[@robertcooney1938]

1967 Her Satanic Majesties Request was a Brian Jones album. The album is sooo underrated and the critics hated it, but I prefer it to it's Beatles counterpart Sgt. Pepper.

[@yetivanmarshall9880]

Keith is a guitar player who couldn't play a lead if his life depended on it. What stones songs are played readily on the radio after Brian's departure? IS there even one after them start me up album?

[@Viajealduende]

Yeti Van Marshall Keith played lead on many songs including sympathy for the devil, you can see him and hear him playing the riff in the video. The other story is Clapton played it which has been rejected by Clapton himself.

[@pam1007]

Yeti Van Marshall Yawn

[@steveconn]

+Yeti Van Marshall Brian left in 1969. Start Me Up was in 1981. Plenty of Stones songs played on the radio between '69 and '81.

[@ritaw9000]

Watch your mouth! Keith is the main musician of this band.

[@empressohno]

@@ritaw9000 ..fuck you.

[@hammer44head]

Brian just got too stoned to roll at the end.

[@alexisfalekos9494]

hammer44head fucking genius pun

[@johnniefairchild2220]

NO BRIAN, NO STONES

[@yPrude]

Every time I hear no expectations it reminds me of brian and i get sad

[@robin2012ism]

Thanks. An important clip from the movie.

[@kimberlyelizabethclarady212]

RIP BRI.......

[@dreamcorp2278]

Besides the complex issues btwn them and brian its ridiculous to say that they went downhill after his leaving. I'm not a fan of most of their mid70s output but beggars banquet (which he was on but barely ) , let it bleed, sticky fingers, live stuff like get yr ya yas out or gimme shelter documentary, and exile on main st are all great, heavy songwriting and musicianship. People don't have to be either purely a Saint or a sinner ... brian should've gotten more credit and he did help with their unique sound on a lot of the early stuff but this doesn't take away from the greatness of those albums.

[@ptl44]

4:53 This is all you can do when receiving such news.

[@bjrnovebufoss2734]

Money kill Brian. He was the hart of the band. I still like Rolling stones but the moust intrested part is with Brian. Now I like Stones because they still rolling after all this years. And thats grate even if they only 3 of the real band left. But Ron Wood is good for Stones. RIP Brian you make the gratest band in the sixtis.

[@kathybreakwell847]

Mick said: 'he was the author of his own misfortune' - well Mick, who was 'the author' of his tragic death??

[@lindadote]

kathy breakwell .......yes, the Twins choose their words carefully when discussing (or rather, dismissing) Brian but some of us are old enough to remember what went down.

[@kathybreakwell847]

Mick chose his words very carefully... Keith couldn't be more cold and cruel if he tried...

[@lindadote]

kathy breakwell ........true enough. I have zero respect for Richards, he’s forever denigrating other musicians and bands and appears to have one hell of a chip (a bloody great log) on his shoulder. He has money to burn yet took decades to have dentures fitted after his teeth rotted overnight from the heroin. The bloke *always* looks filthy but then money never did buy class.

[@empressohno]

@Paul Grey..fuck off Keefwit. Alexis Korner said Keith was the best of the worst..he's right.

[@empressohno]

@simon templer ..You first, asshole.

[@krisscanlon4051]

Was a serious world music practitioner. He was not taken by their musical direction and wanted to push them into a wider scope. They were not open to changes in style or compromise...thats what killed BJ...mediocrity.

[@BourneAccident]

I'm not buyin' all this rubbish... it doesn't pass the smell test. Something much more to the story than what Mick and Keith are saying...

[@MJEvermore853]

What is the name of the song at the very end that Keef is singing?

[@user-wu2im3ip5x]

Salt of the earth

[@rocnado]

The Rolling Stones definitely gave Brian a hard time for taking more money and for being the most talented and the most artistic. They've said in interviews that he set himself up to get treated like shit (for being a gentle/jealous guy in a band of outgoing party guys) and that's exactly what the band did to him, treat him like shit. That's (in my opinion) why he started abusing drugs which eventually led to his the downfall of his character and motivation. The rest of the band didn't like him and they used evil ways to get rid of him. As for his death, it's sketchy that nobody tried to solve it. If he was murdered, then who was behind it? The band? His house workers? Nobody knows. On the other hand, if he commuted suicide, then it was a byproduct of the bands resentment and torture towards him. Either way, the Rolling Stones have a dark history hidden away, somebody needs to do something about it. would highly suggest that yall do some research because this shit is so convoluted!

[@honeylambb9864]

+Eric Madill - Brian did not commit suicide. His girlfriend Anna Wohlin said that he had quit all drugs about a month earlier and was only drinking and taking pills his doctor gave him. At the time of his death, there was only 3 or 4 beers in his stomach and a very small trace of his perscription pills and he was an excellent swimmer so chances are someone drowned him.

[@matt88008]

There is a lot of criticism on this thread about Mick and Keith regarding Brian, most of it unjustified ... If you look at the studio footage you can see that... a) Brian was completely 'junked out' and clearly on 'smack' ... b) He also seemed disinterested, dysfunctional and disenchanted with recording and was clearly not on the same wavelength or moving in the same direction as the band ... in addition to which he was also disbarred from entering the States owing to his drug conviction and would have been unable to play live on the planned tour later in the year ... Mick admits candidly in this clip that maybe they could have handled it better, however ultimately Brian was responsible for his own condition and was the author of his own downfall within the band.

[@empressohno]

You don't know what you are talking about. Brian never used smack. That honor goes to Keith and Mick. Brian was bullied and mistreated by those two reprobates who owe their careers and fortunes to him. They've totally overblown Brian's "drug use" and ill-temper to excuse their own abysmal behavior. They have zero credibility which is exacerbated by Brian being unable to speak for himself since he is dead. Their cruel treatment of the man who gave them their start speaks volumes about their lack of character rather than their age.

[@lindadote]

The_Lady_Jones ......in a nutshell.

[@dindjarin7185]

@@empressohno Hi Gideon whats up ? ! haha You do your bully self no favours and give yourself away so stupidly. That's why I laugh! So dumb Gideon, Linda Jones, Glass Onion, Mirabelle Starr we know your the same person ! If you get out of school, I ponder your vocation. Your not a very good internet criminal as you are so obvious in any case. Its like the thief who left his wallet at the scene. So funny.

[@dindjarin7185]

@@lindadote Hi Gideon whats up ? ! haha You do your bully self no favours and give yourself away so stupidly. That's why I laugh! So dumb Gideon, Linda Jones, Glass Onion, Mirabelle Starr we know your the same person ! If you get out of school, I ponder your vocation. Your not a very good internet criminal as you are so obvious in any case. Its like the thief who left his wallet at the scene. So funny.

[@deanmatney1549]

Can anyone tell me what the song at the end is, when Keith is talking about Mick and the video ends? It's a very lovely tune.

[@ianrobertson6782]

salt of the earth, can be found on beggars banquet :)

[@keeponrollin7922]

dean matney salt of the earth

[@noname.___]

Brian, mick, Charlie, bill are the only original stones that are any good

[@blake7067]

Brian jones gave the stones their musical mystique..even when he didn't play anything. The truth however is that he was completely outmatched on a composition level by Jagger and Richards..blown clean out of the water by two musical sages

[@empressohno]

Bullshit...two musical plagiarists...Jagger and Richards have a well-known track history of purloining the work of others, namely Brian and Bill.

[@danielheywood2660]

Has anybody ever come across that recording of salt of the earth right at the end with Keith ? I’d love to find it.

[@jamesbrad77]

Hey Weeping -- I'm not defending M & K for their behavior, but think about it: They had gotten rid of Brian, paid less than they should have, so why would they have any interest in killing him? Whether it was Frank Thorogood or Tom Keylock, it seems it was some trivial personal gripe and not something ordered by the Glimmer Twins.

[@dontlooknow.]

So Mick and Keith thought that going to the funeral would turn it into a circus. Apparently, Charlie and Bill going wouldn't have that effect. Almost as though Mick and Keith considered themselves superior beings........? Interesting.

[@empressohno]

They're a pair of cowards.

[@goesjem]

Big egoists, especially Mick. He has always been up himself and has a habit of putting others down.

[@BlueSpirit3743]

history will tell it's own story but, in my personal opinion, Keith is a really decent guy with a very decent heart. If you really listen to what he says (or, the times he chooses not to say anything at all), you start to see it. It took a while for me to see it. but I saw it eventually.

[@empressohno]

You need to "listen" further. Keith is a five-star bastard.

[@_Singularity_]

I don't know what people expect from Keith. He wrote in his autobiography that he took Anita from Brian because he thought Brian could kill her, and whether or not that was a valid fear, I think that statement by itself should be enough to indicate that he wasn't going to be too upset about it. I don't think he cared very much what happened to Brian after he left the band, and I don't think it's hard to understand why.

[@lindadote]

Singularity .......then Keith proceeds to beat Anita, sure, he was “saving” her - they beat each other. The couple was banned from Alitalia Airlines for spending the entire flight with Richards in there “punching that crazy Anita”, yeah, he’s a real saint! Of all the available women, Richards took his band-mate’s, it’s a “dog act” anyway you look at it. Pallenberg was said to be the instigator and trouble-maker most times, she was always bad news.

[@empressohno]

@@lindadote ..that succubus left Brian for Keefy when she sensed the powershift in the band. Groupie hanger-on, hooker, drug-procurer, would do anything once..there lies her allure. She was trouble!

[@michaelhampton9493]

Be honest Mick , you shit on Brian

[@dindjarin7185]

brian shat on Mick and the band

[@cthrew1603]

Didn't even atttend his funeral. Conscience really does make cowards of us all.

[@peachjinri8026]

mick had to film ned kelly, keith on the other hand had no excuse

[@TheaterPup]

@@peachjinri8026 Keith said he considered the Hyde Park concert the funeral.

[@peachjinri8026]

@@TheaterPup yeah he also said how his family never done funerals so 🤷🏼‍♀️

[@ethanb8344]

Is anyone familiar with the version of Salt of the Earth played at the end of the clip? Sounds like a live recording but I can't seem to find it anywhere online

[@tidesofthemoon]

The Stones sacrificed him.

[@user-ey1ms7dj8i]

4:51 Did u notice Jagger Half old half young look like Harry Styles Face

[@girlfullofsorrow]

They look so similar

[@starrisawesome21]

Brian Jones ♓🔯

[@maxitheshow1656]

I wish Brian back alive again😥

[@afifafandi7626]

Sadd 😭

[@williamlangan5902]

The announcer got it wrong. Frank Thorogood was no friend.

[@GregJay]

Very Ironic, that the last thing Brian did musically with the stones was No expectations. Ironic and prophetic.

[@Bklyn93]

The last thing Brian did musically was You Got The Silver.

[@GregJay]

@Paul Grey some MT here very good soundcloud.com/jayhunterband/sets/blues

[@paulmunt6258]

It was very sad,but it seems quite obvious that he was the architect of his own downfall. Couldn't handle the excessive use of drugs and still function as a member,and more importantly,a creative contributor to the band. All this bullshit about him being the 'golden sweet Stone' doesn't fit very well with the fact he beat up women and treated them like a piece of crap. We are all responsible for our own behaviour in this life. R.I.P Brian

[@ruth2739]

Who did he hit?

[@empressohno]

@@ruth2739 ...that succubus Anita claimed this. Funny how she was the one who lured Brian, the hippie kid at heart, into S&M.

[@empressohno]

paul munt..No, he wasn't. I'm also sick and tired of hearing how he roughed up girls. The only one who ever made that claim was that drug addicted, now dead, pig Anita Pallenberg.

[@dindjarin7185]

@@empressohno Hi Gideon whats up ? ! haha You do your bully self no favours and give yourself away so stupidly. That's why I laugh! So dumb Gideon, Linda Jones, Glass Onion, Mirabelle Starr we know your the same person ! If you get out of school, I ponder your vocation. Your not a very good internet criminal as you are so obvious in any case. Its like the thief who left his wallet at the scene. So funny.

[@mickmueller1700]

He did not croak Keith. Maybe you think taking Anita off his hands made him so sad he drowned himself. Brian swam in some of the roughest currents Australia had to offer. He was a constant swimmer. He was fuking drowned by 2 workmen.

[@sharonwaimrin9254]

He says they didn't go because it would have been too much of a circus, however, all those people showed up because of Brian, Brian's fans. Why do those guys always think it's about them.

[@johnmurray8835]

It was sad what befell Brian.

[@davidsanderson5918]

People are commenting and arguing without listening properly to what's being said in this video!!!