Brian Jones last girlfriend and her time at Cotchford Farm

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@filmretrospective5334
@filmretrospective5334 7 ай бұрын
Also Check out my Documentary on Brian jones! kzbin.info/www/bejne/gHLWdaScosyofck
@TedHall-k7v
@TedHall-k7v 8 ай бұрын
When you "dance with the devil in the pale of the moon light" you risk joining the fate of those who chose to roll the dice with drugs, alcohol, and life of chaos and sadness. So sad, but history repeats itself.
@sexobscura
@sexobscura 7 ай бұрын
he was a famous member of an extremely popular band, so your flippant comment fails badly at being 'deep'
@Maria-jp1hb
@Maria-jp1hb 3 ай бұрын
That's bs spread by the glimmer twins Brian wasn't that messed up but they sure messed with him
@ovalvox7888
@ovalvox7888 8 ай бұрын
I read Anna’s book. I took it with a grain of salt. There were a lot of holes in her story.
@hermanhale9258
@hermanhale9258 8 ай бұрын
Me, too.
@anitap6361
@anitap6361 3 ай бұрын
Brian Jones was my favorite Stone.he was very talented and didnt get what he desrved!
@westfield90
@westfield90 8 ай бұрын
Sad story on the fragility of life. You get lucky enough to gain fame and money but life becomes boring and drugs and alcohol become your outlets. Depressingly that doesn’t end well most times. I feel for Anna because it’s those left behind that they have a torturous existence and life seems very very long, sad and rather pointless constantly filled with what ifs.
@greenbunnyinabongo7299
@greenbunnyinabongo7299 7 ай бұрын
“He lived for it And died in it” Pure poetry
@peterm1826
@peterm1826 8 ай бұрын
Brian was murdered. He was an excellent swimmer. When Rolling Stones came to Australia. In 60s they went to Bondi Beach Brian swam so far out they lost sight of him. 30 minutes later he came back to shore. As for Brian’s death. I Blame Frank Thorogood He was in the pool with Jones and out of resentment and jealousy killed Brian. He confessed in 1993. While in hospital dying of cancer. It was hushed up. To the point Anna was deported and Tom Keylock burnt all Brains clothes the next day. And the builders were looting his house.
@thaismatsumoto
@thaismatsumoto 8 ай бұрын
He was using drugs. Being an excellswimmer means nothing. Look at Dennis Wilson of the Beach Boys. He was a surfer and drowned too.
@BlowinFree
@BlowinFree 8 ай бұрын
@@thaismatsumotowell that’s debatable, some say he was given the chop by cia
@filmretrospective5334
@filmretrospective5334 7 ай бұрын
Frank wasn't dying of cancer when he was admitted to the hospital for respiratory problems. He didn't know he was going to die so how could it be a deathbed confession? You're going by the words of Tom Keylock who according to brians daughter never spoke to frank alone as she was with him each day. Tom also went back on his statement and said it wasnt true, before going back again and saying it was true.
@SJ-ni6iy
@SJ-ni6iy 7 ай бұрын
You could be an Olympic gold medalist but that doesn’t make much difference, if you are blitzed out of your mind on drugs.
@peterm1826
@peterm1826 7 ай бұрын
@@filmretrospective5334 Brian’s Daughter probably never spoke to Brian either. She probably doesn’t have a clue. And I’m not going on Tom Keylock I’m going on what police thought. At the time. As it didn’t make any sense and it’s suspicious that Keylock was burning Brian’s clothes next day. The police took what they’re findings to superiors but they didn’t have enough to go on.
@hankwedelmusic9965
@hankwedelmusic9965 7 ай бұрын
In July 1969, Brian Jones was laid to the cosmic rest he deserved for living such a full on and Explosively Creative life... Without a doubt, Brian Jones was the most interesting musician The UK has ever yielded... Was there anyone more responsible for The British Blues boom going global? Was there a mod to out dress him? Was there a hippie to out freak him? Was there a punk more outrageous in the media than Brian Jones? Was there a glam rocker who didn’t pay homage to Brian Jones? A New Romantic more effortless at being androgynous? Has The UK produced a more perfect pop star not known for writing his own songs? Was there a studio musician more influential? Brian remains the deepest root of modern UK experimental music Was there ever a plainer name than Brian Jones more synonymous with highly sexualised camp narcotic excess? Two members of the band he pulled together still tour under the name he chose for them 60 years ago… It’s interesting to observe that in the wake of Brian’s passing, Mick Jagger and Keith Richards both exhibited the alpha aspects of Brian’s persona... Mick became the erudite, globe trotting, media celebrity and record producer... fathering many children by many women while also steering the ship... Keith became the drug addled blues rocker making Open G his own… with a deep interest in the roots of a marginalised world music at the time, reggae... and record producer... shacked up with Anita Pallenberg… Also very interesting is how both Mick Taylor and Ron Wood both strongly reflect Brian Jones in their roles as his replacement... Mick Taylor, the lone bluesman and slide guitarist virtuoso... Mick Taylor’s presence saved that band from musical ruin... There was no one better for them in 1969.... Ron Wood, Hot Brit Rock Guitarist Partner in crime and social butterfly dandy friend to all the other rockers... that band would have fallen apart but for Ron Wood in 1975... Fittingly when Bill Wyman quit in the early 90s, he was replaced by another Jones…. Darryl Jones Their 2016 release “Blue and Lonsesome” was made up of songs they would have known from their time with Brian… who, along with Ian Stewart KNEW that the late Charlie Watts was the only drummer in London able to swing in a way that would make the band… Their most recent release 2023’s “Hackney Diamonds” concludes with Muddy Water’s “Rollin Stone Blues” a song Brian named the band after In conclusion I’ve always been fascinated by Brian Jones despite knowing that aspects of his behaviour called some serious diabolical forces down... I tend to not judge him too harshly and concentrate on the other aspects... the musically driven visionary who created himself like very few others do...
@Rugmunchersauce3
@Rugmunchersauce3 7 ай бұрын
@hankwedelmusic9965 "Please don't judge me too harshly" 🥺😉 I really like your dedication to him. 💙
@Ian-sj1wy
@Ian-sj1wy 7 ай бұрын
I think there were hundreds of Mods that outdresed him. There was even one in his own band if you know where to look .
@BrianFalarski
@BrianFalarski 6 ай бұрын
Well written
@hankwedelmusic9965
@hankwedelmusic9965 5 ай бұрын
@@Ian-sj1wy All those 1960s well dressed Mods became well dressed Hippies by 1967 and if you’re referring to Charlie Watts, Charlie didn’t really go for it until about 1975 and if you’re referring to Keith Keith didn’t really go for it until he took up with Anita
@dellablair8514
@dellablair8514 5 ай бұрын
@hankwedelmusic9965 Your dedication to Brian reads like poetry. Thank you for sharing.
@gartenhexe123
@gartenhexe123 8 ай бұрын
Everyone forgets that Brian had Asthma. Asthma and drugs are a no go......think about that
@arricammarques1955
@arricammarques1955 7 ай бұрын
Bran was coping with manic depression & self-medicating with substances. Jones was under a lot of stress with court issues. His central nervous system was deteriorating. It was a recipe for disaster. Brian was making the music he loved away from the Stones. Without support he faded away into legend.
@davidroberttaylor57
@davidroberttaylor57 7 ай бұрын
With the help of a builder who held his head under the water.@@arricammarques1955
@jsmith469
@jsmith469 7 ай бұрын
He didn't die from an asthma attack
@chrish4nsen
@chrish4nsen 5 ай бұрын
Examination report says there was no drugs nor alc in his system at the time of his death.
@WhatTheyDontTellYou-hy3lw
@WhatTheyDontTellYou-hy3lw 5 ай бұрын
@@chrish4nsen You don't know what your talking about. Do some research. the toxicology report showed both drugs and alcohol in his system. A thorough autopsy concluded he passed out and drowned. He was completely blacked out when submerged in the water, hence the verdict death by misadventure.
@christopher9152
@christopher9152 8 ай бұрын
Excellent video. There are stories here from Anna that I had never heard before. Some of what she shared paints Brian in a somewhat more sympathetic light than is often the case.
@dennisheadley4408
@dennisheadley4408 8 ай бұрын
Brian was very talented. But he was messed up on drugs and alcohol, and often didn't show up at recording sessions. In his condition, it was also impossible for him to go on tour.
@chuckselvage3157
@chuckselvage3157 8 ай бұрын
Sad he couldn't or wouldn't get the proper help. 😢
@TheaterPup
@TheaterPup 8 ай бұрын
His doctors gave him Mandrax, which made him worse. @@chuckselvage3157
@aunch3
@aunch3 8 ай бұрын
But that was common for all the Stones at the time not just Brian. Their sessions were always poorly attended one Stone or another often no showed. Brian felt like the odd man out because he wasn’t writing the songs, and he had a hard time accepting a supporting role.
@motowngirl5891
@motowngirl5891 7 ай бұрын
You can’t run a business with a person who is messed up, people get fired from their jobs everyday
@jsmith469
@jsmith469 7 ай бұрын
He didn't show up or was given the wrong time on purpose
@catlover4700
@catlover4700 8 ай бұрын
Anna was just a fleeting moment. She was a" fan girl" more than a love interest. She spent time with him, lived in his home but theres more holes in her story than Swiss Cheese. Anita and Keith finished Brian off.
@Rugmunchersauce3
@Rugmunchersauce3 7 ай бұрын
​​@saynototheilluminati3247. They had come to hate him. Spanish Tony and Marianne Faithfull have hinted at how horrible they were about/to him. It was also Keith who ditched Tom Keylock and got him and his friend Frank Thouroghtwat to "mind" Brian.
@Reba24u
@Reba24u 7 ай бұрын
@@Rugmunchersauce3 well I agree that Keith and Anita finished him off I don’t think it was physical but their romance destroyed his soul
@jsmith469
@jsmith469 7 ай бұрын
If Brian's liver was that diseased, then he would've had symptoms such as the whites of his eyes would have turned yellow.
@elenikorkodelaki2695
@elenikorkodelaki2695 6 ай бұрын
Pallenberg destroyed Brian!
@lindaellen808
@lindaellen808 8 ай бұрын
Frozen out and lonely ,story of my life really.
@leosunrising
@leosunrising 8 ай бұрын
What band were you a part of formerly?
@nygelmiller5293
@nygelmiller5293 4 ай бұрын
To Linda Ellen. Chin ip, Linda! Your problems cannot be unique to YOU. Keep looking for GOOD friends and relationships, and CHECK what people are like to others, before committing yourself to them. That's what I had to do. Now I have loyal friends. We are worth so much more!
@joachimgoethe7864
@joachimgoethe7864 7 ай бұрын
He only lived at Cotchford farm for seven months. Bought it in Nov 68. Died July 69. Sad he wasn't around long enough to really make it a home.
@decimated550
@decimated550 3 ай бұрын
I've watched the movie stoned last night and it is an unsparing look at the man who had faded into mediocrity and mental and physical self-destruction. His personality just did not jive with the two powerhouses of Mick Jagger and Keith Richards. He didn't write songs. He garnished them. He was a Sonic Smith but not a songwriter. And he was known to be falling out of control and not very creative. So it's not as if there are lots of musicians looking him up to make a new band. He would have been evicted from that Mansion for non-payments of his mortgage anyway
@TheaterPup
@TheaterPup 3 ай бұрын
@@decimated550 That movie is not a documentary. I suggest you read a book, such as Sympathy for the Devil by Paul Trynka. Plus he should have received co credit on multiple songs (same with Bill and Mick Taylor). And multiple sources say Brian would arrange the songs Mick and Keith brought in, as George Martin did for the Beatles. Not very creative? You're not very informed.
@Maria-jp1hb
@Maria-jp1hb Ай бұрын
@@decimated550 you are the biggest idiot shame on you for spreading false rumours now GTFOH if you are not a fan but here to discredit you with no talent axhole
@patriciaw.5602
@patriciaw.5602 8 ай бұрын
Could you do a video on the last days of Bon Scott, AC/DC singer. He and Brian seem similar in a lot of ways.
@musiclover3205
@musiclover3205 8 ай бұрын
Rest in Peace- Brian and Anna Wohlin
@AndriyValdensius-wi8gw
@AndriyValdensius-wi8gw 8 ай бұрын
Anna Wohlin is still alive.
@musiclover3205
@musiclover3205 7 ай бұрын
Anna Wohlin passed away in March 2019.
@johnrunion5357
@johnrunion5357 Ай бұрын
brain founded the band, gave them their name and set in course their musical direction. he then proceeded to expand the band's sound in directions it would never gone other wise. then when they kicked brian out, the band merely went back to brian's original concept of the band. brian wrote the lyrics and keith the music to ruby tuesday; this has been confirmed by Marianne Faithfull . jagger took credit for the lyrics.
@jonathansteadman7935
@jonathansteadman7935 8 ай бұрын
I don't think Brian could handle fame, he mentions it during various interviews. As Mick said ' Fame doesn't rest easy on most people, but with Brian it didn't fit at all'. He was the first rock star, he was the first Stone to wear his girlfriend's colourful shirts, he was the most creative musicians and had a style ahead of his peers. Apparently he wanted to do something in the style of Creedence Clearwater, while being into world music years before it became a 'thing', the recordings he made of Jojoukan musicians of morroco for instance. Even Charlie Watts, who was not someone to mix his words, said Brian was not a very nice person, but was very charming'. He was the first to have this mix of personality disorders, which weren't recognised back then, with the problems of frame. Ultimately, we never got to hear Brians side of things as, apart from Robert Johnson he was first of the 27 club.
@TheaterPup
@TheaterPup 8 ай бұрын
Charlie didn't mince words, but fans constantly misquote him. He meant that Brian would sometimes "upset people." That is not the same as not being a nice person. When you're a rebel, you're going to upset people at times.
@plaguelover71
@plaguelover71 8 ай бұрын
Asd highly possible too.
@glengamble526
@glengamble526 2 ай бұрын
The first rock star? You spelled ‘Little Richard’ wrong.
@dalesco707
@dalesco707 2 ай бұрын
It's a good thing you gave a different image of Brian from the typical portrayal they push of him, barely able to speak in his last days, and this despite the testimonies of those who saw him much better than had seen him for a long time.
@sandrakenney567
@sandrakenney567 7 ай бұрын
Its a pity he died so young he was a talented gifted person.and started the band .he lasted 2 years later he left the band because he wasnt in any state pity.hes not forgotten Godbless you Brian.Rest in Peace Amen 🙏🕊🕊🕊🕊🦋🦋🦋🦋🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹💐🕊🦋
@judyskinner254
@judyskinner254 5 ай бұрын
I think Frank the Ogre murdered Brian. And Keylock the Thief stole all his belongings.
@richardbanker3910
@richardbanker3910 7 ай бұрын
Looks like Brian had got back to a life routine which was healthier than before. Only the daily alcohol and evening Mandrax and Black bombers seems to have marred this picture. There’s a very good question as to what happened to the belongings that Tom Keylock stole, especially his tapes of music recoded and instruments . He took advantage of the situation.
@christinajebali9201
@christinajebali9201 7 ай бұрын
What a waste of a young talented man.. so sad he had everything worth living for if he just didn't take drugs and alcohol in excess like that..
@Maria-jp1hb
@Maria-jp1hb 3 ай бұрын
He didn't he stopped any drugs stop listening to bs get truth
@oldskool731
@oldskool731 Жыл бұрын
why would u have a outdoor swimming pool in england anyway nice gaff though
@TheEvbox
@TheEvbox 8 ай бұрын
If you can afford it why not? Even if you can only use it 2 weeks out of the year
@donnajean3202
@donnajean3202 8 ай бұрын
Brian's pool was heated
@plaguelover71
@plaguelover71 8 ай бұрын
The American wife that was the previous owner had it installed.
@BlowinFree
@BlowinFree 8 ай бұрын
Many people have pools in England especially the south. Only the rich can afford to heat one though
@JogMaher
@JogMaher 8 ай бұрын
More wonderfully researched work 👌 Thank you 🙏🏻
@fastinbulvis2223
@fastinbulvis2223 7 ай бұрын
Frank was hired by Allan Klein to take out BJ. It was no accident. It was a hit.
@jonashallberg2832
@jonashallberg2832 8 ай бұрын
Anna was put in a hotel the same day By the stones management, then when she had talked to the police,she was giving a ticket and they drove her to the airport.when she came home she discovered that she was pregnant.
@SuperAnimelover100
@SuperAnimelover100 8 ай бұрын
Never heard she was pregnant before. Where is the baby ?
@Leo-dr4qm
@Leo-dr4qm 8 ай бұрын
She wishes
@jonashallberg2832
@jonashallberg2832 8 ай бұрын
⁠ she had a miscarriage ,when she came home to Sweden. She was in a very bad state after all that had happened.
@jonashallberg2832
@jonashallberg2832 8 ай бұрын
@@Leo-dr4qm ???????
@clemdane
@clemdane 7 ай бұрын
Keith Richards is like a walking piece of beef jerky
@xaspirate8060
@xaspirate8060 Ай бұрын
Many of you here have different theories on Brian's demise. But am I crazy or didn't Frank Thorogood confess to killing him just before he passed away?
@helmutsecke3529
@helmutsecke3529 8 ай бұрын
He were drowned in the trough, not the sodding pool.
@randybackgammon890
@randybackgammon890 8 ай бұрын
Never heard that before.Whats your sourse for that idea?
@cindy7400
@cindy7400 8 ай бұрын
I think they murdered him myself!
@BlowinFree
@BlowinFree 8 ай бұрын
There was a brilliant documentary on uk tv ages ago that alluded that there were a few workmen working at Brian’s house for weeks and staying onsite and Brian was seriously getting under their skin and apparently the drowned him in the cattle trough
@filmretrospective5334
@filmretrospective5334 7 ай бұрын
This would mean Frank pulled him out the swimming pool drowned him in a trough and threw him back in and brian put up no resistance as under examination there showed no cuts or marks or any sign brian had been tussling with anybody.
@helmutsecke3529
@helmutsecke3529 7 ай бұрын
@@randybackgammon890What does "sourse" mean?
@mangographics225
@mangographics225 7 ай бұрын
Mick wanted to be the "head guy" but was always second to Brian ... Mick didn't give a crap.
@isabelrodriguezsjolund9701
@isabelrodriguezsjolund9701 2 ай бұрын
Asswipe nonsense. By the time they fired Brian he was a shadow of his formers self. And acording to Bill Mick cried non-stop for a whole day when Brian died.
@sonnygirl8823
@sonnygirl8823 7 ай бұрын
That is so F’d up that they raised that house after his death-How horrible for his family
@TRICK-OR-TREAT236
@TRICK-OR-TREAT236 7 ай бұрын
I CAN REMEMBER ANNA'S TIME AT CROTCHFORD FARM LIKE IT WAS YESTERDAY. TOO BAD SHE COULDN'T HAVE SAVED HIM.
@PlayerToBeNamedLater1973
@PlayerToBeNamedLater1973 6 ай бұрын
Liar
@patriciaw.5602
@patriciaw.5602 8 ай бұрын
Well done video. Another rock star who can't drive a car!? If Anna could have tried to write lyrics, who knows maybe she and Brian could have written songs.
@rudetunes6564
@rudetunes6564 8 ай бұрын
Brian was murdered by his yard keeper....
@Tamara-r8i
@Tamara-r8i 5 ай бұрын
How come that the GOOD Ones go first? Peace to You Brian for always and wherever you are right now. Karma. Love You.
@dalesco707
@dalesco707 2 ай бұрын
There's something that isn't often mentioned in this story, it is that gifted individuals are often taken advantage of.
@russellmcbride1242
@russellmcbride1242 8 ай бұрын
Keith and Mick killed Brian with their cruelty I believe. A million woman in the world and Keith took Brian's. Broke the bro code!
@slimturnpike
@slimturnpike 8 ай бұрын
Bollocks
@KimTebrok
@KimTebrok 8 ай бұрын
Grow up. You know nothing.
@Maria-jp1hb
@Maria-jp1hb 3 ай бұрын
​@@KimTebrokknows more than you by the looks
@tobydammit7426
@tobydammit7426 3 ай бұрын
Considering where Brian Jones kept his brains, they should have called it "Crotchford Farm!" How about a tribute to all the girls Brian Jones impregnated and abandoned and all the children he left fatherless? Why all this eternal worship of a narcissistic drug addict who didn't compose any of the Stones songs, physically abused Anita Pallenberg (and that's just the girlfriend abuse we know for sure) and had to be fired from the Stones because he could or would no longer contribute anything to the band? Because he looked and acted cool?! And btw, compared to Ravi Shankar (and a million Indian sitar players most people have never heard of) Brian Jones was an amateur dilettante on the sitar! If you read Keith Richards' biography "Life," you can also read about what a cruel person Brian was to perfect strangers, like a fan he left out in the freezing cold after taking his coat! He was a very pretty, very pretentious nothing with a mean streak!
@TheaterPup
@TheaterPup 3 ай бұрын
If you actually cared about those women, you'd know that they've appeared in multiple books, interviews and documentaries and they don't appreciate it when Brian is trashed as you're doing. Same with his children and grand child. As far as Keith's book, he dissed dirt on everyone in his life, including Mick. And he admits he was no choir boy himself. You seem to be the one playing double standards. And your vulgar pun at the start of your comment tells me you have no business paying tribute to any woman.
@christophernash1846
@christophernash1846 3 ай бұрын
Technically he did write songs and Bill Wyman too . Mick Taylor left because he didn't receive song credits. However Nanker Phelge is a group composition so he did write and receive credit. Ruby Tuesday should be a Jagger-Jones song and Paint it Black among most of the Aftermath songs should be Nanker Phelge
@billyshane3804
@billyshane3804 3 ай бұрын
Brian Jones - STOP YOUR DRUGS
@SpenceCurry
@SpenceCurry Ай бұрын
Anna was stuck on brian major torchh
@Marilyn-r8n
@Marilyn-r8n 17 күн бұрын
Anna seems like a weak person who was a user;
@clemdane
@clemdane 7 ай бұрын
Who owns Cotchford Farm now?
@invisible-zt8xh
@invisible-zt8xh 8 ай бұрын
He fell unconscious and drowned? Uhm. .... 😒
@texas1949
@texas1949 7 ай бұрын
“The only thing they had in common were the drugs they were sharing” 😢
@marcumexe
@marcumexe 5 ай бұрын
The mystery of Brian Jones must be solved while those last two rascals are still around, they know the real deal.
@motowngirl5891
@motowngirl5891 7 ай бұрын
He ruined his health with drugs and drink
@Rugmunchersauce3
@Rugmunchersauce3 7 ай бұрын
Really ? I don't think anyone's thought about that possibility before !
@charityshoptreasures2569
@charityshoptreasures2569 8 ай бұрын
Brian has a son with another woman
@Rugmunchersauce3
@Rugmunchersauce3 7 ай бұрын
Yes, with Linda, I think he is called Julian. But he also made a couple of other young women pregnant too.
@Rugmunchersauce3
@Rugmunchersauce3 7 ай бұрын
Yes, with Linda. I think he's called Julian Lewis Jones. Not sure, my memory is quite fucked. But she wasn't the only young lady he got pregnant even before the Stones got successfull...apparently.
@isabelrodriguezsjolund9701
@isabelrodriguezsjolund9701 2 ай бұрын
Brian had at least 7 children
@aileenjackson1706
@aileenjackson1706 5 ай бұрын
Shame on you Tom.
@Marilyn-r8n
@Marilyn-r8n 17 күн бұрын
Mick is an evil soul. My sister met him when she was 15, Stray Cat Blues comes to mind.
@davidrogers2085
@davidrogers2085 7 ай бұрын
Anna has milked this subject for way too long. Brian never knew love. At home when he was a adolescent a loving family dwelling escaped him. It was regimented. How could he NOT strike out when the time came for him to do something with his life. He never knew real love.
@Mojorising1328
@Mojorising1328 8 ай бұрын
It should have been mick, not Brian. He couldn't hold a candle and clearly resented the attention Brian got for being the true leader and creative force behind the Stones. They were nothing more than a street fair band post Brian.
@lamper2
@lamper2 8 ай бұрын
One thing about Brian, he was no creative force in songwriting anyway. Mick was. He was the one they couldn't have done without.
@ben-ow3ow
@ben-ow3ow 8 ай бұрын
@@lamper2 Micky and Keith to be fair
@kabiam
@kabiam 8 ай бұрын
Mick is still going strong. The guy will outlive all of us.
@scottstambaugh8473
@scottstambaugh8473 8 ай бұрын
Dumb, ugly comment
@Reba24u
@Reba24u 8 ай бұрын
Mick never lost that much control. Brian was talented but weak
@kentucy9999
@kentucy9999 8 ай бұрын
1. Brian couldn't write songs. Mick + Keith would have loved to have written some songs with Brian and they tried too but he couldn't write songs. That isn't unusual. Many very talented musicians aren't composers. They didn't "X" Brian out. 2. Keith did not "steal" Anita. Brian was mistreating Anita being physically abusive and everything else. Keith didn't "steal" Anita. In his mind he "rescued" Anita. 3. Brian was very happy at the beginning when he was the quasi leader of the Stones and they were playing "covers." One day Andrew Loog Oldham their original manager said to Mick + Keith, "look boys. If you're ever going to do anything you've got to write your own songs and you need to start working on that today." Mick + Keith's initial reaction was, "what are you talking about? We don't know how to write songs." Andrew said, "well learn then, right now." So they wrote a couple songs and lo and behold people liked them so they wrote a couple more {and people liked those also.} No one was more surprised than them. Brian was devastated by this. He was devastated that Mick + Keith were successful writing songs and were now the center of the band. Brian never got over this. He couldn't accept it. He was very jealous especially of Mick who was becoming the biggest rock star in the world. Keith has said, "Brian wanted to be Mick and couldn't understand why people didn't see him like Mick but Mick is Mick. Someone else can't be Mick." 4. Brian started doing A LOT of drugs. A LOT. He basically became incapacitated and completely ineffective as a musician and a member of the band...........end of story. Maybe the band could have handled the "sacking" of Brian a bit better. I don't know. I wasn't there.
@filmretrospective5334
@filmretrospective5334 8 ай бұрын
1. Brian could write songs, he wrote the soundtrack for degree of murder 2. Keith was physically abusive to Anita too so he wasn't "rescuing" her. and there's no correction with 3 or 4 they're just statements.
@tomslick2058
@tomslick2058 7 ай бұрын
They paid him off with a measly 100 grand and no rights. He did make some songs unique with his embellishments. But he could not perform anyway in the end. They had to sack him. Also the Stones new it was time for a true second guitarist .
@Arya-1111
@Arya-1111 Ай бұрын
dont lie please and dont repeat bs rumors
@garyporcello
@garyporcello 21 күн бұрын
Funny! How they both never mention. ??? That ventful day in june of 69. When they wentvto cotchford farm n fired brian. Keith! Had chased brian around brians hiuse. With his switchblsde knife!!!! Because brian also.had a few things to say..to keith n mick..
@markhooper4532
@markhooper4532 8 ай бұрын
Winnie Wallace... What a happy jolly chap.You can imagine being in his company, that's if you're into taking huge amounts of any old drugs and being permanently pissed.
@sallydumbrell9446
@sallydumbrell9446 8 ай бұрын
Wow you young fellas sure have all the answers.Somehow i know they are not going to be talking about you 50 years after you have departed.
@Rugmunchersauce3
@Rugmunchersauce3 7 ай бұрын
​@@sallydumbrell9446. Yeah. And what the Fuck is he talking about anyway ?!
@sharonyoung7251
@sharonyoung7251 7 ай бұрын
I Believe Mick Copied All of Brian’s moves and music. Jagger and Richard’s were jealous of his Talent, And put him out. RIP BRIAN….🕊️Fly Free with the Angels 🕊️🕊️✌️🙏🌈✨
@MD-lf3gt
@MD-lf3gt 7 ай бұрын
Yeah it MUST be that way. Because Brian’s dead and of course it MUST be Mick and Keith’s fault! Somebody MUST get the blame. Brian’s dead and that makes him holy and impeccable ( like Florence Ballard). At least for simpletons who believe in heroes and villains.
@Maria-jp1hb
@Maria-jp1hb 3 ай бұрын
Spot on exactly what happened
@isabelrodriguezsjolund9701
@isabelrodriguezsjolund9701 2 ай бұрын
You do realize Mick and Keith have been writing music for decades after Brian's death?
@garyporcello
@garyporcello 21 күн бұрын
To this very day..its so hard for mi k n Keith. To even.menyion Brian. If it wasn't for Bill Wyman. To keep Brian relevant in stones lore..he wouldn't hardly be mentioned atall..like that thing..a few years back.mick n keith!! Meeting at the train station as young kids..saying! "" this is where?? The stones actually got together for the very first time"". "" bullshit""!!!. Bill wyman!! Told the reporter. It was "" Brian jones"". That created the rolling stones"". Not "" mick " keith..they were hired hands..good! For Bill. If it was led jp to "" icky n keith"". The historical society. Would had left the big plack..tgey had up @ the trai. Station. 😊
@Maria-jp1hb
@Maria-jp1hb 18 күн бұрын
@@MD-lf3gt it's a fact they had a lot to do with it disgusting people and thiefs
@CherieAllen-g2y
@CherieAllen-g2y 7 ай бұрын
Sacrifice😢
@roswithagotz2523
@roswithagotz2523 7 ай бұрын
Warum sind die Qeiber immer blond???????
@helmutsecke3529
@helmutsecke3529 6 ай бұрын
Was meint "Qeiber"?
@Arya-1111
@Arya-1111 Ай бұрын
BRian was murdered and thats absolute rubbish everything you said is mostly BS BOT
@paulcooper-n2v
@paulcooper-n2v 7 ай бұрын
Brin had the winny the poo house.
@Leo-dr4qm
@Leo-dr4qm 8 ай бұрын
Groupie
@Mike-yc9td
@Mike-yc9td Ай бұрын
Brian was murdered, Mick and Keith kicking Brian out of the band he founded added to his downward spiral.
@rossammellino9045
@rossammellino9045 7 ай бұрын
😢😢😢😢😢😢
@Marilyn-r8n
@Marilyn-r8n 17 күн бұрын
Frank was a POS!!
@beverlyledbetter4906
@beverlyledbetter4906 7 ай бұрын
What did he see in her??😬
@benwright6330
@benwright6330 7 ай бұрын
Crotchfilled Farm
@lyndamcmullen5506
@lyndamcmullen5506 8 ай бұрын
❤❤❤
@konradbenz7110
@konradbenz7110 8 ай бұрын
💕👍
@angusvansatriani784
@angusvansatriani784 7 ай бұрын
Brian was a piece of work. Yes, his untimely death was very sad and a shame. But Brian was horribly abusive to Anita. I doubt she would've been with Keith otherwise. Nor would Keith have been comfortable to make a move for her. That they felt bad and/or guilty says more about them than Brian. Not to mention the poor little girls he got pregnant. A saint, he was not. And there were several people who witnessed how cruel he was to the groundskeeper. As well as a major phsycological game player. That he intensely rubbed people the wrong way was something all around him could attest to.
@TheaterPup
@TheaterPup 3 ай бұрын
Do you feel self righteous enough yet? If you actually cared about those women, you'd know that they've appeared in multiple books, interviews and documentaries and they don't appreciate it when Brian is trashed as you're doing. And hate to tell you but "phsycological games" is not an excuse to kill someone. And Brian's girlfriend certainly did not feel pity for this groundskeeper when he hit on her, or when he was ripping Brian off. Your comment is sick and quite nonsensical.
@garyporcello
@garyporcello 21 күн бұрын
Trust me!! Brian...was no angel. Keith saw Brian hitting Anita in his hotel room. Again..n again..he took her out of her situation..n so their relationship had begun..but still.keith! Should have never started up with her..just on principal..one doesn't do that to a friend..n especially a band mate..
@TheaterPup
@TheaterPup 21 күн бұрын
@@garyporcello None of them were angels. Enough with the double standards.
@garyporcello
@garyporcello 20 күн бұрын
@@TheaterPup double standard??? Just stating facts. ..maybe! You should do the same????.
@BarronVonShyster
@BarronVonShyster 24 күн бұрын
I think brian was frustrated because he couldn't right songs ...great musician ...but definitely not a song writer..
@slimturnpike
@slimturnpike 8 ай бұрын
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