Australian Commandos, "SASR Who is That?" (Marine Reacts)

[@JamesonsTravels]

The SASR a bigger hammer or scalpel? More videos here - kzbin.info/www/bejne/bHfcqaeHaL-DhMU. Video response to comments on Odins Men - kzbin.info/www/bejne/jH-Yk4CImJ2DhZY

[@fistbravo]

SASR are more of a scalpel. If you want to know more about counter terrorism elements in the commandos take a look at TAG East and TAG West.

[@firestorm165]

The Sas is who you call in to do recon, the commandos you call if you need a door kicked in

[@pv3566]

SASR are our SEALS. Small team recon on target as well as a direct action element, that can work alongside our commandos or other ally special operations units. Commandos are our Rangers. Direct action, door kickers and skull fuckers. They can attack a target with SASR overwatch or as an added force element. SASR is our domestic west coast CT unit. Tactical Assault Group-East is our east coast CT unit which is made up of 2nd commando operators that do a rotation through the unit. Dan Pronk is the man to follow on the socials for SASR content. And has his documentary Voodoo Medics is on Amazon or Netflix, can't remember which. Paul Cale or Bram Connelly are the blokes to follow for you Commando badassery.

[@mattyball8677]

The difference is in what they are nick named Commandos- Door Kickers SASR - Cats as in SAS Cats Both highly trained, efficient, brutal and lethal. But completely different roles but broad skill sets with both groups.

[@mattyball8677]

P V or seven horses on Instagram

[@deebs3616]

Difference between the two. SASR - We were never here. Commandos - This place was never here.

[@PaxSierra]

^ ferkin perfect.

[@clazza65]

Spot on.

[@davogeorge4525]

Mark Donaldson said when he was a boot, he asked an SAS guy what the difference between them and commandos was, he replied "if you wanna do special forces shit, join the commandos, if ya wanna do special forces shit properly, join the SAS"

[@TheMultiDouche]

Perfect.

[@mojku1]

Exactly 💯

[@RobertLewis-el9ub]

SASR is for long range recon in small teams. CDO is primarily for assault. Both regiments maintain a counter-terrorism capability.

[@curtism-w6b]

Sounds like the difference between recon and force recon.

[@mattyball8677]

SASR are great force multipliers as well don’t forget, they worked real close with the commandos in loads of ops in 2010 Afghan

[@Peter-vu5wl]

Dave i doubt it

[@babyfacekensei2612]

Dave wait why, I thought it was just Ben Roberts smith?

[@babyfacekensei2612]

Dave do you really reckon they would disband though?

[@noneck3099]

SASR..silent killers.. Commandos..storm on the horizon.. Emus...Hold my beer

[@justice1902]

Too few will get your reference to the war against the Emu's that Australia lost, lol

[@naess83]

@@justice1902 One cheeky bastard stalked me at Pukka

[@TheKira699]

@@naess83 I thought only Roos stalked you guys at Pukka.

[@blueapple7988]

😂

[@yeetfeet5191]

Y u have to violate us like that its not funny it was our toughest war yet

[@ShadeyFella]

I think of the SASR and Commandos as tools when comparing them. Say there is a locked door that they must open. The SASR are a lock pick. They're in and out without a sound leaving no trace. Commandos are a sledge hammer. They're here for you and want you to know about it.

[@petertelford4900]

Well yes but you will only know they are there when they want you to know it , they can get in undetected but once they open that door it's is true shock and ore

[@attysthoughts3253]

yup. sounds like DEVGRU/1st SFOD-D and the Ranger Regiment. SMUs mostly conduct operations in small units (4 -12 man operations), while the Rangers conduct larger (platoon and up) operations.

[@saxon3980]

@@attysthoughts3253 sorry but comparing the SASR with rangers is an insult. Having trained anf faught alongside both you can compare Rangers with Austraia's RAR. SASR are elite as are the SAS in the UK and NZ. Think Deltas or SEALs minus the underwater work for which Australia has the Special Boat Service.

[@attysthoughts3253]

@@saxon3980 of course you did. you probably passed selection in both. also i didn't compare them, i made the distinction between SMUs and the 75th

[@saxon3980]

@@attysthoughts3253 nope, no reason to embellish my military career. Served in the Australian RAR from 82-88, and had Rangers on exchange to my battalion, less than impressive. Did multiple training exercises with SASR, and they were something to behold. In 90 I joined the British Royal Marines and served in Iraq in 91 and 94 before returning to Australia in 2000. My point is there is a huge gap between the US Marines/Rangers, the UK Paras, the Australian RAR, and elite units like the SAS, Seals etc.

[@atriggeredboi2218]

Fun fact: When Malaysia Airlines Flight-17 was shot down over Ukraine, Australian Commandos were over there and on the ground in 24 hours. Commandos and SASR operators often work together, despite the obligatory rivalries. SASR often do more long range reconnaissance and deep behind enemy lines work, as well as intelligence gathering. Commandos are the guys you send in when you want something done quickly and efficiently, as well as whoever you want captured or killed....well captured or indeed killed. Commandos are the guys you want kicking in doors and harassing the enemy. SASR are the guys who will kill you before you even know they are there

[@joshreid5982]

you hit the nail on the head. i know 2cdo and 1cdo very well and this is literally the perfect description of each regiment.

[@andyturbo]

Couldnt have said it better myself

[@stuwhiteman3810]

Well said, I couldn't help but have a giggle 🤣

[@kamatmehbro]

well said

[@zed4225]

Hit the hammers straight on the nail.... ***boom*** as the millenials like to say ))

[@keecey3783]

SASR - Scalpel - Walk into village undetected, add a air vent to targets head walk out undetected. High importance tasks that require smaller numbers as to stay clandestine/ too far in enemy territory for a larger force. Commandos - Sledgehammer - Insert near target location in larger numbers and wipe it clean. Major operations like raiding strongholds etc Both highly skilled just different roles

[@claretindustries8616]

Lol love this one heaps of Aussies have posted but this I reckon is the most Aussie

[@ADVtheMISSIONARY]

yep...once upon a time(before 2011) we had the commandos and 3RAR para(more conventional Sledgehammer) doing similar rolls(often some competition between the two aka dick measuring) then it was all given to the Commandos ,right at the end we see the start of the Para training ,Part 5 will be interesting

[@EpicMRPancake]

Sometimes SASR do sledgehammer, like in Operation Tizak in Afghanistan.

[@Paul-45-70]

Well said, I work with a former Commando and that is exactly how he described it.

[@simonpz4159]

a good comparaison would be commandos = army rangers and SASR = Delta

[@ThyAmREmo]

It's hard to compare the Australian army in general to their counterparts in the US since comparatively, we're a very small force. Because of our small size, the average military skillset of the Australian soldier is by necessity, generally broader than what is typically expected for his American equivalent.

[@ArsenicApplejuice]

C336 this!

[@tlevans62]

C336 absolutely true.

[@joshtowns5630]

Matthew stewart True but their core training and main mission won't necessarily change. The more your exposed to the more options open up in you thinking and actions. But ultimately it comes down to the right tool for the right job. SASR will likely excell in long range recon, as opposed to a Seal team hitting a compound at night. Horses for courses. Cross specialist training can only be beneficial though.

[@gj1508]

Very true, same thing goes for here in NZ, small army so the caliber of the soldier needs to be very high, lack in numbers has to be made up with top quality soldiers with a wide range of skill sets and a high train state, each infantry grunt is not just a rifle man, he's a machine gunner, a sig, does NAV, a combat life saver, grenadier, marksman. He's not just trained to his one role but must be able to preform all rolls in a infantry section.

[@anthonymark3771]

Matthew Stewart ... Hi Matthew, l’m not trying to get into an argument with you but l worked with an ex Soldier from the SASR and he never referred to it as SASR but only SAS. He didn’t talk much about it, other than he was a Medic. Can’t remember his name as it was 20 yrs ago, but l can give you lots of details about him privately to confirm he was ex SAS. The second guy was one of our managers and again never referred to it in any conversations as SASR. Again spoke very little about it. Privately l can give you his name. Also spent a week with a group of SAS as a medic whilst in the RAAF whilst they doing parachute jump refresher training. Have photos to prove it if that’s required. Had good chats over the week and at no time did any of them refer to it as SASR. And yes l do know it’s SASR, but that term is rarely used by any l have met.

[@darneyoung537]

It makes me proud to be an Aussie, and just to know these guys are protecting us and our country. Bless them all 🇦🇺🐨🐨🇦🇺

[@scottmcdonald4942]

My grandfather was in the sas based in port morsby And was in the sas for 15 years as a trainer I will always be greatful for what my pop did for this country

[@organicmechanic5150]

Thanks for his service. My family are military, including an uncle who was SASR, Parachute Regiment and 2CDO. He was Platoon leader in a black hawk crash in Afghanistan that killed 3 of his team. He is now an advocate for the QLD RSL and Invictus games gold medalist.

[@paulp1450]

Lest we forget.

[@FarmerFpv]

Love our Aussie brothers/warriors, can't wait to go race Motocross at Biloela MX again! They were the most welcoming humble and rowdy bunch ever, hopefully, next year! Much love & respect from NorCal USA.

[@thesatisfiedcustomer4869]

mad place to visit that 😆🙏🏼

[@stevenwebb3634]

Biloela? I live in Rockhampton.

[@FarmerFpv]

@@thesatisfiedcustomer4869 Amazing place & people.

[@FarmerFpv]

@@stevenwebb3634 Nice man, I've been to Six-Mile Reserve in Pink Lily. I believe it's in your district?

[@stevenwebb3634]

@@FarmerFpv it sure is

[@vinorob]

The Aussie forces are so much better and so very different than in my time back in the early 80's. I am proud of them in an unpatronizing way. Makes me wish I was young enough to go again.

[@jakenicholls9914]

Love the Aussies, in general they love their sports a lot more than in the US and UK. I remember the first time I went there, I was staying with Aussie mates in Sydney, we went out Saturday night and got hammered, woke up Sunday morning feeling like death and wanting a big breakfast, the Aussies got up and decided we should go surfing. Really fit guys who love their sport. ps they all went playing rugby in the afternoon.

[@Crashoverride1234]

People along the coast in Sydney are usually fit. Just go to the beach at 6am and see how many people are running and walking before work. I think it’s the warm weather and beach that makes you want to exercise there.

[@P1TD0G]

It’s what we do

[@P1TD0G]

@UCNsUBLhV-IAgO2Rtlnm0wfw your beer guy should run the selection course then 🤣 It’s way more than physical, these guys psyop you.. it’s way different to any selection in the military. You only get 1 chance for Australian SAS… you fail that’s it never again.

[@TheTalksome]

Your exactly right UNC it's far from a physical test but don't get me wrong you will be pushed beyond your physical limitations, only while you haven't slept or eaten in 24 hours while constantly being screamed at and told it can all end if you hand over your arm band. At the same time constantly being assessed on dozens of challenges a day, most have no clear objective. Situations that have no right or wrong answer, nothing you do is the right way. This environment creates a massive amount of mental pressure . No one will receive positive reinforcement at any point but constant negative reinforcement. This creates a mental state that you have failed every test, it takes a person with a strong mind that can mentally push through and react in the moment no matter how high pressure. SAS and SBS almost exclusively operate behind enemy lines. Totally cut of from a chain of command so a group absolutely no bigger than 12 operator's normally have an objective, what they can carry and off they go sometimes for months, living like ghosts that are nether seen nor heard. Officially there not there. Especially as now day's behind enemy lines means operating in a sovereign country or state while officially they were never there. Commands are the point of the spear in a conventional battle or war.

[@olivierkrick652]

Who play rugby becomes à true warrior

[@brianweekes8273]

My father was once in 1 Commando. He used to say that the two forces were very similar but would be used for different types of tasks. He said that Commandos were trained to fight like ten men and shock the defenders. Decades later he still talks about the things he was taught with perfect clarity as though he was trained only yesterday. I mentioned that to a modern former Commando in Sydney once and he said "Once Commando, always Commando".

[@goodshipkaraboudjan]

The premier counter terrorism teams are the two Tactical Assault Groups (East and West). East is formed around a Commando company and West an SAS Squadron but both teams also have navy Clearance Divers and SOER (Special Operations Engineer Regiment) personnel attached.

[@shrimp3836]

You should do like a storytime where you talk about the funniest/craziest moments during your training

[@aaronlott7691]

Not everybody in the military has a lot to talk about tour wise because they simply didn’t see or do much said he went to boot camp in 1990 don’t think there was a whole lot goin on then don’t know how long he was in for but I can’t find anything about him I’ve looked who knows maybe he does need to address that, I’m not knocking him but don’t know his story just what he think about everyone else

[@aaronlott7691]

Only thing goin on then for us was the golf war which ended in 1991

[@jackhampton2062]

@@aaronlott7691 He was in Gulf War. He has talked about it during live streams.

[@nickjohnson710]

@Johnny S what a thing to say......🤬

[@willkirkoff1333]

@Johnny S disgusting

[@lukevanderlande2488]

Commandos are tier one operators. They're just based in the eastern states in holsworthy barracks sydney. The SASR are based here where I live in perth Western Australia at Campbell barracks in swanborne. The SASR have been likened to a scalpel The commandos have been likened to a sledgehammer. Commandos usually work in higher group numbers where as SASR a usually in small teams for recon. But it's also not unusual for them to work together. I hope this answers some of your questions and keep up the great videos 👍👌🙂

[@ivanb7160]

You gotta love a sledgehammer 😁😁😁

[@Daniel-ld7xs]

Awesome!

[@HMB-us1sb]

Luke, are they still Reserve based? Chocos?

[@jamesleicher]

maybe you best person to answer his question at 3.40,Lindt siege were they called in?

[@lukevanderlande2488]

@@jamesleicher no they where preparing for it but they never got the call.which had later been deemed a mistake because the police really fucked it up

[@hellodistinguishedgentlema2766]

Australian Commandos are basically Marines Rangers and Special Forces rolled into 1 if it’s out side of standard military engagement we send them in

[@bruz5154]

eh i dunno, 2nd CDO operates alongside DEVGRU and Delta

[@colnuttall9035]

The commando’s were deployed a few years ago when a lone gunman took multiple hostages in a CBD Sydney coffee shop. They brought the situation to an end and rescued many hostages.

[@CodeNameV13]

The CDO unit were on standby and had a complete mock up of the Lindt Cafe. SOG police stormed the building and not only shot the offender, 2 innocent civilians were killed. If the CDO unit had of stormed the building, no body would have died.

[@super_3410]

The main reason military intervention is needed in Australia with domestic terrorism is because the AISO (Australian Security Intelligence Organisation) doesn’t have Counter Terrorism teams. Usually in domestic terrorism it’s up to the Tactical Police Groups (SERT, SRG, TOU, TRG, STRG, SOG Tasmania, SOG Victoria, TRG), however, if they can’t control the situation, that is when the military is called in.

[@difficultinterest1582]

AFP takes lead over ASIO, ASIO doesn't even get sidearms. They rely on AFP or their state counterparts

[@ryean1_aus]

The latter is called call-out powers. It's an interesting one to look up as it changed since Lindt.

[@minirambler4042]

Supersuperman341 Gaming Men of the SASR are integrated into some Police Tactical Groups in Australia.

[@bobkats]

Military ub Aus has never pulled the trigger on Aus civilians

[@bobkats]

@@minirambler4042 NO THEY ARE NOT

[@zed4225]

Thanks Jamesons Travels, for your serivce, not only to your country, but to those enjoying your posts, legend x

[@polonypolonypolony]

The 50-cal may have had lots of screen time because they are secretive about other details, so they needed to stretch the permitted content to fit the program length.

[@Zinkx.]

yeah and it was less about the machine gun itself and more of the idea of being able to use varying range of weapons at high level

[@SuperWhiteSuit]

in my time in the defence force it was decribed like this. SASR is a scalpel that takes out a target Commando is a weapon that takes out a gridsquare

[@kamatmehbro]

As an Australian, from my understanding atleast, the Commandos and SASR are like our equivalent to the Seals and Green Beret. Top-tier SpecOps teams. The Commandos however, as you gauged have a broader skillset and are trained up to be a solid domestic CT force. Happy to learn more from other Aussies who might know more or have another perspective :)

[@P1TD0G]

Nice but you really have to realize what they are.. yes there’s no better force on the planet which blows my mind considering our population but the SASR is a surgical knife and our Commandos are the yes we did this guys

[@pnelson89]

Australian SASR and Commandos are both Tier 1 operator elements in the Australian Army (akin to seals, green berets etc). SASR typically operate in smaller groups performing precise tasks (The Scalpel); where as the Commandos typically operate in larger groups achieving larger scale Tier 1 tasks (The Hammer).

[@mattyball8677]

84’s are pretty good but cumbersome usually used from an op/Overwatch position where you can stockpile ammo. Most RPGs reach out to about 700m, 84s can push out to just over 1km and fire multiple different munitions like smoke, para flares, HE, HEAT...

[@ouchouch7887]

The SASR is like a combination of delta and seals. 2 commando is similar to rangers but more rounded with a water capability. Commandos do have an anti terrorism group called tag east which means east coast and the SASR are tag west. We also have 1st cammando reg which is a reserve unit but every highly trained

[@angusguerin2072]

So the metaphor more regular used is the "hammer and anvil" analogy, the SASR are the tip of the spear the head of the hammer, the striking point. Where as the 2nd Commando regiment is the anvil, it is a larger occupational force with a difference more broad skill set. So if you want to clear a village or raid a house or pill box or such, then a small "squad" sized element from SASR is ideal. Where as, if you are required to capture and hold a large valley/ region, then a company sized element from 2nd Command would be ideal.

[@jaimemphis8561]

2 cdo are more used for direct contact missions and assault missions, whereas SASR have been known to be "chicken stranglers", Long Range patrols and what not. Both can carry out counter-terrorism capabilities both domestic and on deployment. 2 commando are for the East, SAS on the west.

[@Tommmvv]

What do u mean sas for the west commandos for the east?

[@croausx2891]

part 5 please, loving the Australian military videos

[@Wile_E._Wolf]

The 84mm Recoiless was typically used on air-burst for entrenched or hard to hit enemy positions. The video is a little misleading, you can adjust the rounds to detonate at a certain range. Typically we'd fire it over the top and set it to detonate above the enemy position, but it was used directly against enemy structures also.

[@chrishanchard9032]

This^

[@tropicsalt.]

Part 5, obviously. Thanks again, great vids.

[@wattlebough]

2nd Commando Regiment is capable of fulfilling the role of 75th Rangers but is closer to SEALs (but not DEVGRU) in land based activities and variety of insertion methods. They are capable of water operations but are not water specialists like SEALs. 2CDO has an internal specialist hostage rescue unit and shares this responsibility with the SASR Tactical Assault Group. Advanced water operations are carried out for the Australian Defence Force by SASR Water Troop or Royal Australian Navy Clearance Diving Teams (CDTs).

[@nedtics675]

Don’t forget TAG

[@scrimmo]

CDs aren’t “special forces” though, they do not fall under SOCOMD. They have a very small specialised underwater maritime role

[@difficultinterest1582]

@@scrimmo They're trained for MCT and must undergo Special Forces selection before they can operate. It's sorta one of the those de facto things

[@hobens1]

@@nedtics675 read it again mate.

[@nedtics675]

sale havek thanks champ

[@dudesumting]

Would like to see you react to Leo Major, a one eyed french canadian sniper who liberated a whole town by himself.

[@chrisliebe5185]

2C is a strike and attack for where as SAS and SBS Will insert capture 2C are the fullback and suppression team for the capture and or release of hostile and casualties full suppression is needed in these situations

[@arejayheix]

The Commandos are like SEALS or Raiders, SOER are like their SOF EOD/Engineers (think Navy EOD) then the SASR is their tier-one SOF. Back to the Commandoes and SOER, they also support the SASR missions through augmentation (SOER) or how the commandos does do just like the Rangers did for Delta in Somalia.

[@JamesonsTravels]

Their training looks awesome. Covers a lot of basis. Since they have domestic duties as well makes sense. Eg hostage etc.

[@middledesert5018]

Hey Jamesons Travels thanks for uploading videos I broke my leg yesterday and your videos are helping ease the stress

[@zed4225]

Hope it heals well and fast for you, these vids are great aren't they, thanks JT

[@middledesert5018]

@@zed4225 thank you

[@azareth1338]

Read 'The Commando: The Life and Death of Cameron Baird.' Book brought me to tears, but it's an excellent telling of what the Australian Commandos did and were used for.

[@garynew9637]

Amazing bloke and story.

[@n1ght822]

SASR: Long Range Patrol and intelligence gathering in a non permissive environment and individual field-craft skills. 1st Commando Regiment (Army reserve): Individual and group reinforcement to the 2nd Commando regiment. 2nd Commando Regiment: platoon or higher level direct action raids and larger scale special forces fighting.

[@tlevans62]

N1ght exactly correct.

[@tomcrow7342]

All states in aus have police special operations units, but they could call on specia forces if need be, eg there was a hostage situation in Sydney a couple of years ago and the nsw police special operations were used in that, but they had commandos on standby

[@firestorm165]

The commandos were on more than just stand by. They were getting floor plans and building a mock up of the cafe within minutes of the word coming in of what was happening and then proceeding to drill their arses off before being told "No thank you" by nsw police who then completely botched the job so horribly that the footage is now used internationally as a case study in how not to conduct an operation

[@tomcrow7342]

Firestorm was easier to say standby then explain the whole situation

[@firestorm165]

@@tomcrow7342 fair enough

[@brettholness6994]

When i served with 2CDO back in 88 were a reserve unit. 2CDO is a Green beret sf. Now I believe they have full time units as well.

[@brettholness6994]

@Richard Milosevich 2 CDO coy. Williamstown Victoria. Under Major Morris

[@harryeverett2152]

One of my instructors (back in cadets) was of rank within the SAS, he said it once took him 2 and a half days to crawl 3km. He would move, cut a piece of bush, then reposition it in the ground behind him, then move again over and over. Would do your head in. You have to be a special breed of human. He also said that he had a section of men (if that's what you want to call the mob) come around on patrols, they'd walk over him without noticing and continue. Your stress levels would be through the roof.. This is why we have to treat these men when they come home with the upmost respect, what they do for our country is beyond most average persons mind.

[@steveblackbird]

This... I know two of this special breed and you are 100% right... they are on a very different level than most humans.. Try being on the same team playing paintball... undefeated for 2 whole years. sub 20 second capture the flag... we held some prestigious records...only because the civvies amongst us listened to the SAS guys.... they think waaaay differently to anyone else.... ++++1

[@kalebjameson9625]

SASR and commandos both the same just commando is used more commonly, you can only sign up as a commando, usually a platoon of them would be like 20, 130 will sign up only 25 will make it through.

[@scottbutler1561]

I'm always amused at how Hollywood portrays a special operator's physique vs real special operators.

[@kaederukawa8178]

Me too...😂😂😂😂😂

[@kaederukawa8178]

Yup in Hollywood one sf guy can demolished the whole army battalion using banana

[@davidsendt7288]

They tend to look a lot different once they finish selection. Look at Ben Roberts Smith for an example

[@gibell3443]

@Stevo Maginn haha!.. keep dreaming.. you weigh 38 kg curling 55kg.. a man weighing 38 kg is the size of a 10 yr old child lol

[@jimmnythecricket1175]

Are you saying you only weigh 85 pounds?

[@goldenchild4835]

The term "Commando" in Australia has jumped around a bit over the years and can often confuse e.g., Number One Commando (Ist Commando Regiment) is a Reserve Army unit first formed in the mid-1950s. The SASR (Special Air Service Regiment) is an elite unit, mostly commonly battlefield deployed e.g., during the Vietnam war they were organised in "sabre" units, frequently operating as stealth/recon units. Then the there's the TAG units (Tactical Assault Group) e.g., TAG East was first raised in the early 2000s, initially as a specialist anti-terrorist unit drawn from Australian regular army units. All that being said the SASR is the most highly trained, most demanding and secretive of the Australian army's elite. There's a bit going on for the SASR at the moment, so there may be some changes on the way for them.

[@beastwaynes4868]

‘Insert Long Intro Here’, my absolute favourite video.

[@paulk8072]

4RAR are the door-kickers, highly skilled in close quarter combat. SASR are more cerebral and do reconnaissance, intelligence and are capable of conducting operations behind enemy lines with little support.

[@hobens1]

SASR and 2CDO have a healthy rivalry some would say bordering on hatred for each other. SAS guys not all have been known to heavily criticise the commandos classing them as second rate to themselves but through years of combat operations in Afghanistan the commandos have become highly capable and are indeed first rate operators despite what any chicken strangler says 😁😁😁😁

[@Mystninja]

Hate? So many members chop and change depending on age and or skill sets. But could you say. SASR are more British tactic based. And 2commando are more American style tactics. The have two different jobs. But members are just as good as each other and could be interchangeable

[@timmybobby4052]

Be great when sasr is disbanded

[@Mystninja]

@@timmybobby4052 SASR is really old school so I can see what you mean. And 2 commando started from a infantry unit from the ADF standard Army. I think it's still a good idea keeping both. As there on opposite sides of the country. It's like Rangers and mountain. They both can have airborne teams but depending on the mission. Long Range small teams can be better then high speed large teams or vice versa. As usual it depends on Intel. And who is "experience / expendable" unless your Bear Grylls. That Kant is off the chain. But maybe the reason Special Air Service Regiment may not be so airborne anymore. Them fast fall parachutes are fucked.

[@olivegrove2615]

@@timmybobby4052 That won't happen CCP idiot.

[@timmybobby4052]

@@Mystninja all due respect, don't need to explain and you're off the mark. I'm extremely familiar with both units

[@Maza675]

SAS is like your Delta force. They are army elite and also do counter terror operations. Commandos are a special unit force in the army, possibly the equivalent of your Green Berets. The two are not the same and they wouldn't like being mislabelled lol.

[@DocGiraffe]

The 1st Commando Regiment is a Tier 1 Special Forces Command. They're basically equivalent to the US Army Rangers in terms of training and quality. It's very similar to the SASR, except they receive more training than the Commandos. In terms of the attributical side of things, in Australia - the SASR personnel are considered more elite than the 1CR. But with saying that, the 1CR are extremely skilled. I had people from my BT's who went on to become Commandos and SASR personnel and even though I've been discharged for 18 years, most of them are still in service doing all the shit I never could. Just to put it in display, 1CR are normally always the first out on a deployment for VIP Targets before the SASR are deployed. Not always, but it's the general act of how it works. Hope I helped you.

[@DB-kq8kp]

Carl Gustav - has a 9 mm spotting round to get on target (usually tracer) plus HEAT, HESH and a controversial anti personnel round for "crowd control". Honestly - a MoFo to fire and difficult to get on target.

[@warwickwilliams2309]

One of the recommendations from the enquiry about the Lindt Cafe Siege response was to use the SAS instead of the Police where possible. It also gave the Police the authority to shoot to kill a terrorist if they thought it would bring the siege to an end. Powers that they didn't really have before.

[@P1TD0G]

Yeah and civilians died.. un professional cops . The SAS had the drop from the start.

[@shxtgigs4662]

East-tac is eastern tactical unit meant to fight a terror attack They are trained urban and close combat, they aren’t even special ops Just blokes spending all day training in specially built courses including hostage and bomb terrorist attacks

[@organicmechanic5150]

It was actually a Commando squad that were training in a full mock up of the cafe, not the SAS. Had the police given the military the power to control the situation, innocent victims may have not been shot by incompetent police. If the police become militarized in Australia, we are screwed.

[@justiny8519]

@@P1TD0Gdon’t blame the cops blame their superiors, they wanted to kill them just like everyone else but for some dumb fckin reason their superiors was like no wait it out, but there was threats of bombs so that could be why

[@MickAngelhere]

The cops totally stuffed up the Lindt café siege, the senior officers and commissioner were more concerned about looking good for the cameras. It’s just sheer luck that there were not more casualties the way the cops went in shooting the way they did

[@dalestuart8772]

both SASR and 2cdo/1cdo are tier one sf units, however perform slightly different capabilities for the adf. for the non military people on here, SASR is cloak and dagger long range recon, commandos kick in doors and go in heavy. RAR soldiers are trained in a large variety of weapon systems, similar to US rangers.

[@5TRICT9]

locally they are supposed to offer their services if there is a terrorist situation but stand back if refused. That's what happened when man monis caused a siege in the Lindt chocolate café in 2014. They had told the federal police they had immediately spent two hours setting up run throughs of training with fake walls of the building and were ready to go in if they needed help. The federal police said no its our territory back off and because of that the police kill not only the lone gunman but also two civilians and wounded 4 others. Good job cops good job.👏

[@rse617]

@Shazzi Star Even far before they were needed there were many opportunities for a low risk sniper shot. With men in position to take it. But they wanted to play s.w.a.t instead. Worst part is that not only did it cost innocent lives, but whoever was calling the shots is guilty of those murders and will never be punished. Such incompetence should never be acceptable by any state force.

[@5TRICT9]

@Aussie Menace wtf are you talking about monis was just a nutcase.

[@waynelee7169]

The Laws allowing Government in Australia enlisting Military personnel in Civilian matters during non-war time is very clear, restrictive and prohibitive. It is not a decision that can be made on the spur of the moment nor by one Commander alone. At the time of the incident mentioned, there were no clear channel such a decision could be affected. No Politician, accepting the advice of his Legal adviser would be kamikaze enough to have done so - certainly not any career Commander in the AFP or local Police. Civilian Authorities have always to fight with their hands tied unless overseen by a Dictatorship.

[@5TRICT9]

@@waynelee7169 Basically what your saying is everyone up the chain had no balls to do what needed to be done and that's why people died.

[@waynelee7169]

@@5TRICT9 No, what I am saying is that the Laws of the Land do not keep pace with the Society they apply to. Domestic Terrorism is a phenomenon relatively new to Australian society and no adequate safe guards or guidelines were in place at the time of the incident. In a democracy such as ours , Authorities are extremely restricted in enlisting the assistance of the Military in anything Civilian and rightly so. Where there are possibilities the Military expertise and personnel can be and should be utilised, legal and Constitutional powers that can be enacted by the scene Commander, without further consultation were not available. Even if the scene Commander wanted to enlist the Military - at the time of the incident they were not able to in Law - they could only accept advice. Police and Military are held to very different levels of accountability to the People and the Law. Some adjustments have been made to the Power allowed to Civilian Police in future incidents but have much testing and refining to be done to be reliable.

[@davidberrill8580]

SASR conduct long range recon and strategic surveillance in addition to international CT response on the West Coast. Commandos are urban warfare specialists and domestic CT response on East Coast

[@pedrothegamer7016]

I've heard a story in a documentary online where an Aussie SASR soldier in Afghanistan used an airburst bunker buster to take out four Taliban at once, he hit them on his third try. My guess it was the Carl Gustav.

[@gareththomas6534]

I used the 84 Carly G in Afganista the new light wight version the yanks used. Us Brits got rid of it about 25 years ago which was heavy to carry however fire 3 or 4 rounds the wepon still gives you mild concushon.

[@will764]

Commandos do East Coast CT ( Tag East ) and SASR do the West Coast CT ( Tag West )

[@brendanobrendan9]

Sasr is like delta .. smaller teams and long range .. cdo is like rangers and devgru combined CDO are split between two regiments. 1 CDO is the reserve unit and has an ODA role while 2 cdo is the full-time regt and has domestic CT and offshore DA role

[@navyXDF]

Jameson travels have a look at the first marine division and the respect they have for us aussiss

[@frednel4326]

As a 20mm gunner on the Ratel 20 back in 979 we had to go through all the smaller callibre tripod mounted weapons like the 7,62 browning and .50 browning before actualy starting to work on the 20mm ratel main gun and I must say, I fell in love with the .50 lol..with a little practice I found them to be verry acurate In short bursts, and deadly af..but yeah its a damn heavy weapon to carry around and needs to be disassembled and then carried in that way if on foot..that barrel alone is a killer :D, but mounted on the back of the Ratel it was a deadly tool for lightly armored targets on ground and in the air even though the 20 mm was there as first option..geez I strangely miss those hard days hehe..anyways thnx for a great channel and peace to all

[@cupnoodles9356]

Hi Jameson. The closest the 2CDO reg got to dealing with domestic terrorism was the Lindt cafe siege incident in 2014. There was an issue with who was the authority to deal with it as marshell law wasn't enacted. The police SOG or swat or what ever their called in that state ended up taking the reins. 3 people lost their lives , 2 civi and the terrorist. Some question that if 2CDO took over their would of only been 1 dead, the perp .But it's very hard to argue that because no one can really know how it would of gone down. In my opinion the police were the better option, some of their ranks are made up of former Aus SF members and they have more specialist training in those types of operations vs 2CDO having a broader training over different types of ops they might encounter. Condolences to everyone's lives that changed that day.

[@troyonplanet]

martial law :)

[@TrumpAndKamila]

nah mate, 2 commando had been doing ops for years and were very experienced. Not sure what happened at Lindt though I think the. cops had 5.56 rounds which just go straight through people. That wreaks of inexperience. S soon as this started the commandoes. would have had mock ups of the buildings and practicing non stop. Resting, practice. etc. I heard the cops were not doing any of this.

[@TJ-kj8ob]

2CDO specifically train for these sorts of scenarios and cycle through placements at their specialist (and our most cutting edge) counter-terrorism unit (TAG East). The police equivalent are on nowhere near the same level at all. It was the wrong call to send the police as evidenced by our government changing legislation so next time we can use our military assets in these sorts of domestic situations.

[@danch10]

We have commandos in NZ which are very similar to the Aus commandos. Our guys are attached to D-squadron with the SAS but are not badged members of the Sas

[@NeoCavo]

Jameson look up the 'life on the line' podcast specifically the episodes where they interview 'H' it's an aussie veterans podcast and H was one of the first commandos

[@kiwisf2363]

H is a fucking Beast 💯 one of the best to ever do it, would love to see him on Jocko Podcast

[@vk3hsc655]

And then get onto the several by former SASR leaders and the similarities and differences will be clear. H’s pods are a great listen

[@heginoz1]

finally i been waiting ages for this thx jamesons travels

[@drewboy2138]

We had a domestic terror hostage situation in a cafe in Sydney in 2014, the government rarely involves the military for things they are clearly trained for They used a police SWAT equivalent and the thing was a disaster, poorly trained they ended up storming the place and the cops shot the hostages by mistake

[@johnypirelli1118]

The Lindt Cafe seige was a travesty..... they finally made a move and 1 female hostage was shot in crossfire.

[@shxtgigs4662]

We had east-tac stationed at Singleton Which was our eastern tactical unit which was trained to fight in urban hostage environments But politicians and politics got in the way and police wanted the extra pay

[@egypthobby]

For domestic terrorism the AFP (basically Australias FBI) or state police normally step in. But in some situations the federal government will deploy the SASR as the military have more experience and equipment at there disposal. Fortunately they haven't needed to use military units for such occasions but there are protocols in place ready incase they are needed. With a smaller nation with lower threat levels some police forces don't have as much dedicated terrorists strike capability so the government allows the military to step in with some domestic situations

[@KennedyA53]

I can sum up the SASR in one sentence: “Snagged a drone, Godspeed lil fella!”

[@Jesus_isA_man_AllahisGod]

lol R6

[@babyfacekensei2612]

Gotta love rangas

[@samwatson1073]

SASR tend to do back line information gathering and assignation. So working behind enemy lines while Commandos will work on the front lines acting as the arrow head as sorts Commandos will also work in larger teams up to 20 while SASR tend to work in groups of 4

[@Gustavo-hy4uj]

The Australian summer heat doesn’t help as well

[@therobostever8838]

SASR is predominately long range reconnsaince. usually in small teams of 4-8. Like your SEAL teams.But in Afghanistan they're also used to close with, capture and kill the enemy, where as our infantry are generally used as FOB security and AO clearance. Commandos are platoon level capture/kill teams. Often behind enemy lines. They also handle the TAG (Tactical Assault Group) in Australia, which is CQB/hostage recovery in domestic terorism. We also have a police TRG (Tactical Response Group) who work alone side the TAG teams. TAG was handed to the commandos from the SASR. Theres a lot of cross over between the two groups in country. They'll work together on a lot of tasks in places like Afghanistan, and are usually good mates so they fit together seamlessly. Generally the SASR is seen as a tougher course than the Commandos although the same type of guys do the courses. Theres a 2 year build up phase after passing selection, which guys have described to me as continuously building pressure. Its not often at this stage guys don't complete the build up phase, but it does happen. They'll generally get put on the TAG teams after build up, then deployed after that.

[@lewisb85]

Is it just me or when a Aussie SF PTI says "ready", Translation- "here comes the pain".

[@nathangelhaar5528]

Absolutely

[@stevenwebb3634]

You just hit the nail on the head

[@davidcrandell1172]

Yep 100% correct

[@davidcrandell1172]

@Peter Barker Bwhahhaaa, yep heard that a few times. Give a PTI a mirror and they'll be entertained for hours.

[@ginojaco]

Same here in the UK too.

[@kalebjameson9625]

10 Marines = 1 SASR operator.

[@smokeybirdman]

Sasr like American green beret/delta force 2 commando is like American ranger/seals

[@jamesw.blatch1584]

Agree

[@cameronnewman3614]

In Australia, these guys will regularly discharge from the defense force then do time in the TRG or Tactical Assault group Civilian Police Fedreal , once there time is up with TRG they then go back to military and there unit as a commando..

[@Manbunmen65]

The SASR are a specialized force full blokes and mates.

[@ozrichardb]

"Part of Special Operations Command (SOCOMD), the 2nd Commando Regiment is one of three combat-capable units within SOCOMD and operates in conjunction with other SOCOMD units, services and interagency organisations in joint and combined operations. The role of the regiment is to conduct large scale offensive, support and recovery operations beyond the scope and capability of other Australian Defence Force (ADF) units. Army doctrine specifies that the role of commando units is to "span the gap between conventional infantry operations and unconventional operations", focusing on advanced force operations and direct action missions. Formed to complement the Special Air Service Regiment (SASR), the regiment is designed to be a "self-contained flexible and rapidly deployable force" and is structured for both special operations and domestic counter-terrorism. In its domestic counter-terrorism role it provides the Tactical Assault Group (East) to respond to high-risk incidents on the eastern coast of Australia beyond the capability of state/territory and federal Police Tactical Group."

[@hk.l4886]

Aus Commands are similar to Army Rabngers/Navy seals. Mostly DA type styff.

[@nathangelhaar5528]

Yeah do the next part, thanks 👍

[@Redox254]

TAG East and TAG West are Australia’s most elite counter terrorism unit responding to domestic incidents.

[@davidsendt7288]

In answer to some of your questions 2 commando mans the Eastern CT team (tactical assault group East) and SASR mans TAG West. Police have general command of domestic CT operations, however it can be handed over to the teams based on circumstances (there's a complex flow chart of legislation)

[@dossgaming1]

3:40 Sadly no the Sasr & Commando's are trained for terrorist situations but our police and states refuse to enable them in those situations a great example is the "lindt siege cafe" situation in 2014 in Sydney Australia

[@wtf9820]

Correct me if im wrong but i believe they changed legislation after that incident to allow SF to takeover in future situiations like that? I could be wrong though.

[@dossgaming1]

@@wtf9820 I'll do some research and get back to you

[@kamatmehbro]

@@wtf9820 yep!

[@sqnhunter]

Air burst fire from 84 mm Carl Gustav is an invaluable tool for battlefield control...that's what its major roll in Afghanistan was...very effective on Tman sitting in machine gun pits on the hill...and even more effective in cutting out the RPG threats. Tman didnt have a lot of Armor for testing it :P

[@zakbates5766]

Commandos and SASR receive similar training but there missions are very different. First I’ll touch on TAG. Tactical Assault Group commence counter terrorism operations both in Australia and sometimes close by. Commandos are most of TAG-E and SASR are most of TAG-W with the rest being clearance divers which is our Navy sf. Commandos TAG operates in the eastern states of Australia and SASR in the west. Second their operations. Commandos operate in larger numbers and are most of the time tasked with direct action. SASR usually do reconnaissance missions then engage. Lastly I’ll touch on how much each unit hates each other. This isn’t all of them but it’s a decent amount. Commandos refer to SASR as the cats and some of the SASR lads I’ve met call commandos dumbasses only good for kicking in doors.

[@goodputin4324]

*their, not there

[@philscaife6413]

SASR are classed as Tier 1, same as SEALs etc

[@yeeedogg4350]

Love these couch commandos commenting

[@jackdillon8962]

YeeeDogg hahahahahhaha

[@clazza65]

Every time.

[@petertelford4900]

Gidday from Australia . I'm former 9RQR Charlie company , I'm not commando but have worked long side them , how do you know who these people are and what they have done , it seems to me you are the couch commando or do you know best because you play computer games to much . I've played in the real sand pit don't ever just assume something about someone you don't know . Have you ever served your country or ever worked with or seen first hand what the Australian commandos do or have done if have respect as we have for your military .

[@yeeedogg4350]

@@petertelford4900 aye dont tell me what i can or cant say, why the fuck you takin my comment to heart and why the fuck it matter so much to you if you served for my country. You assuming as much you say i am, i dont play video games, i know what the world is like i know what people are capable of, you dont know me just as much as i dont know you, you dont know what my life has been like and you never knew ive been fixed on the army for 6 years (just turned 18), quit acting like i ride every commando i see. Funny how people rather waste time on replying to comments on the internet. And im australian

[@petertelford4900]

@Richard Milosevich Ha Ha your so funny Not. You don't know shit about shit , and you still open your mouth must be all those muscles all braun no spawn . You really don't know shit about what Australian military doe's or how we do it so until you have stopped being stupid and bagging on other people for no reason or was it for just fun . Wow didn't the us military treat you good didn't they teach you to respect and do your job well sounds like it didn't or you just don't give a shit about anyone but your self so your a WANKA .

[@Honkersification]

In remembrance. Lest we forget. G'day folks. From my uncertain knowledge, I recall that the Aussie commandos were formed during WWII and the battle of New Guinea. Don't quote me on that. There is a TV series from the 7os called Spyforce, very tentatively based upon these exploits. As an aside, there is a new series called Rogue Heroes, based upon the SAS and based upon the memoirs of its founder. Always a treat to view your reactions and opinions, Sir.

[@ConzK]

you should watch the videos of EX North Korean soldiers reacting to U.S. military

[@seinfeld11123]

commandos have deployed in Australian terrorism. one I recall was Martyn Bryant . they were also present in the Lindt Cafe siege (although they were never active there)

[@firstandlastname6194]

I fired the Carl Gustaf a few times - though not in battle, thank fuck. Long story short: I sucked with it. This was in a particular Australian Infantry Battalion at a particular time. So I'm sure it doesn't reflect everybody's experiences. The drills were simple and frequent enough, no more complicated than anything else we used. It wasn't that bad to pack march with, weight wasn't out of control or anything. Wasn't that hard to hold at instant, ready to fire. My personal experience though in the actual firing of it: I could never hit anything when we actually got the chance to fire rounds. Not really helped by the fact you're being churned through the shoot as quickly as they can get you to fire. My worst shoot with it: sight picture is completely wrong, in fact nearly non existent, the sight relief is obviously completely wrongly set up for my weird head. About 20 guys have fucked with it and fired it before me. For anyone wondering if the sight relief is wrong you should take off the sight, and adjust its position on the weapon so that you can see through it without blackness creeping in on the sides obscuring your vision of the target through the sight. Correct sight relief is generally unique to each shooter. You should not continue shooting especially with an 84mm round even if its a non explosive training round, when you don't urgently need to, AND in a range situation where you have the luxury of doing it safely. Lieutenant was range OIC Range OIC: 'Fire' Me: 'Yep, no sight picture though, theres something really wrong here, let me get something that isn''t half black' Range OIC: 'Dont fuck me around and just fucking fire' Me: 'The sight relief is wrong, I can't see the target' Range OIC: 'If you wanna fuck me around..' Yeah this private is getting fucked over with disciplinary action if I argue with the LT any more. And it should go generally near the target so.. 'Ok, firing'... Hit! .. the ground 75 metres down range, into the ground, but hey it bounced half of the way to the target, which was only 400 metres down range if I remember right. You could say I was deploying it in more of a close range anti-personel role. The other shoots with it were usually ok, would have mildly inconvenienced the enemy probably. I suppose my experience was that there wasn't enough quality hands on time with this weapon in particular as indicated by my story. Which lead to more than half the guys myself included being completely ineffective with it. But I was just Infantry so only really got to touch it for live fire once a year. Fire literally a couple of rounds, then try again next year. Most of the training I received in the Infantry was high quality, not the HE range weeks though. Unfortunately I felt like a bit of the training we did sometimes was just for whoever the LT was at the time to get a few ticks in some boxes, wanting to qualify in various range OIC tasks etc as quickly as he could. I mean I wasn't even allowed to shoot with the optics essentially in that case, because of time constraints. Training could suffer when they're slamming 50 guys through a shoot and they're behind time. Believe me safety definitely suffered on a few occasions. Side note all of my other marksmanship, small arms and other HE was always easily above average. Hitting targets with 66 rocket or 40mm grenade launcher, service rifle or machinegun was simple in comparison. So I guess the Gustaf is not for everyone or at least requires a higher level of training to be effective and not just waste ammo and opportunities in my opinion. Ironically I would say it was the weapon in the Infantry's arsenal that needed the highest level of training to be effective, but received the very least, likely for budgetary reasons. Which is not good, because when your using HE its generally extremely urgent and it needs to be done right. However this was all in an Infantry battalion that was NOT on deployment rotation at the time. I understand the guys going on deployment get a heap more money allocated to them.

[@zed4225]

Very interesting reading, and how true. If it was your daily weapon, you'd become adept at it in the end, sights gotta work better, something in the design thats a flaw maybe, to be improved.? Thanks for your service to your country

[@rowanshole]

You might like to examine what happened with the Lindt Cafe terrorist incident, and wonder why the SAS who had spent the morning running scenarios in a mock up of the cafe werent used.

[@paulmacca3066]

Not SASR, it was TAG e Commandos.

[@rowanshole]

@@paulmacca3066 thanks. Didn't know the ins and outs of it but knew the preperations would have occured. Don't want to take anything away from the bravery of the cops who went in on the night but they really should not have been put in that position.

[@paulmacca3066]

@@rowanshole all good mate.

[@jc.considine]

I doubt an SASR operator would dignify the premise with a response.

[@mattyball8677]

JC Considine 🤣

[@scrimmo]

Haha Hahahaha 👍🏼

[@GettinReal]

1:10 Commandos, traditionally, were sent in under Queen's orders when your country declared war. American. In vietnam you would have had zero radio array without Aussie commandos installing them prior. Decent narration. Thank you.

[@operation4wheelz]

Australian commandos are similar to US ARMY special forces

[@jimmyrussel5606]

There is the Police Tactical Operations Unit, Tactical Assault Group (East) which is the Commando Regiment, and Tactical Assault Group (West), which is SASR. And they’re the 3 groups that deal with Counter-Terrorism on a Domestic level.

[@RenegadeRanga]

Ah military euphemisms. "Minimum level of force necessary." In commando terms kill em all except the ones that lay down. Good to see your channel exploding JT.

[@roddygraham7131]

Same as Ranger Deltas but used in smaller numbers ( not so many off them). They are hunters and gatherers of intel (quietly).

[@corzahazard444]

SASR: Quietly sneaks into bed to not not wake your partner at 2am Commandos: Kicks in the door yelling "HONEY, I'M HOME" with a dozen mates at 2am

[@kevinrandall6769]

If you had a ladder scale the SAS would be on the top rung, commandos would be one rung down, with lawyers real estate salesmen and used car salesmen right down the bottom and mind you it’s a very tall ladder

[@The_Trinity_Effect]

Firstly our commando regiment isn’t the SASR there two different units with different roles Secondly our commando units for a long time after the VN war were only made up from reserve units ( not full time ) but the SASR was always the sharpe edge of our military and our commando regiments were only only reinstated as full time units I think from 1997or 1998 , along with the rising of the 4th Battlion as a fully committed commando unit by separating it from the 2nd Battlion as it was previously known as 2/4 Battlion Interesting facts that not a lot on here would know so I thought I’d share it with you Goodbye 👋

[@mikes2716]

1 commando members were trained for Vietnam but transferred to regular units for deployment?

[@The_Trinity_Effect]

@@mikes2716 thx for the info I actually wasn’t aware of how we structured The commandos during VN