The Key To a Flawless Tubeless Tape Install

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Jamesthebikeguy

Jamesthebikeguy

Күн бұрын

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@aLboOGieZ
@aLboOGieZ 2 жыл бұрын
Another quick tip, when taping keep the roll physcially on the rim while rotating, the rim will naturally guide the roll of tape while putting tension on the rim
@Jamesthebikeguy
@Jamesthebikeguy 2 жыл бұрын
Good call, your totally right!
@RDB2020
@RDB2020 Жыл бұрын
dude that's legit the best advice Ive seen
@kasu1033
@kasu1033 2 жыл бұрын
You're a genius!! I have installed tubeless tires a few times but have never thought of using my bike as a wheel stand. Thanks I will give it a try next time!
@Jamesthebikeguy
@Jamesthebikeguy 2 жыл бұрын
Lol, glad I got your wheels turning... pun intended :-)
@ragged9242
@ragged9242 2 жыл бұрын
Just my 2 cents here, but I try get rim tape that doesn’t cover the rim bead. When you need to change tires and use the tire lever it will sometimes peel that bit of rim tape off which will either interfere with future beading or damage the current rim tape leading to you having to re-wrap the entire rim again. Just cover the middle and let the tire sealant do the rest 👌🏻
@Jamesthebikeguy
@Jamesthebikeguy 2 жыл бұрын
Solid two cents. Lots of ways to do the same thing, and I am certainty not insinuating this is the only/right way. In my experience has been that getting onto the sidewall has worked better. All too often in the beginning of tubeless I would take the tire off with the tubeless tape just in the center and it would peal up while unseating the bead. Then a nightmare to get sealed again. Not to mention the rim seam on poor quality wheels that would leak too. That's when I began just running tape a bit wider and so far so good.
@byronswogger
@byronswogger 2 жыл бұрын
Ragged I agree with you. Also with carbon rims there is no hook it's a flat bead seat. So tape on the side may interfere with proper tire seating.
@kidsafe
@kidsafe 2 жыл бұрын
Been using tubeless a long, long time and tape riding up the sides of the rim wall has always resulted in a better seal for me. The tape is much less likely to shift when you pop off the bead of an old tire.
@veganpotterthevegan
@veganpotterthevegan 2 жыл бұрын
@@byronswogger a lot of carbon rims aren't hookless.
@michaelviglianco6121
@michaelviglianco6121 2 жыл бұрын
It depends on your rim. Welded rims only need tape to cover the center and bead seat. Sleeved or pinned rims are better off with tape that comes up the sides so that the tire to sleeve interface is sealed. This is why WTB recommends tape 5mm wider than the internal width.
@jamesmoore513
@jamesmoore513 9 ай бұрын
the stretch and application under max tension is the key. Nice one
@jeremyking6146
@jeremyking6146 Жыл бұрын
I've never gone around more than once and only overlap a few inches. I would not use tape that wide, it shouldn't go up where the tire bead sits. like previous comments state, it will rip or wrinkle when levers are used to install/uninstall tires.
@markhoffmann5941
@markhoffmann5941 Ай бұрын
Thank you, i have not used tubeless tire yet but it seem like tape over the bead area could cause the tire bead to not be as secure... seems like 2 or 3 wraps of tape would multiple the problem.. but once again i have never tried tubeless
@BloodyClash
@BloodyClash 10 ай бұрын
sounds promising. first try i did it loose and just pushed it in with my thumb after i applied. the result is that the tire loses air on the spokeholes. will try your method
@gwynnlyell2539
@gwynnlyell2539 2 жыл бұрын
Dang you, using the tire lever. I have always used the ends of my fingers, OUCH!! Thanks, that is sweet. I also always snug it into the bottom/center of the rim. Thanks again, you saved my pinkies on my next install.
@zombierider2794
@zombierider2794 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the help bro! My gravel bike wheels need new tape after over 1500 miles :D. Vid was clear, chill and to the point, def earned a subscription!
@kevinclark9176
@kevinclark9176 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting on your wrap start/stop. I watched the Stan’s video earlier and they said to start opposite the valve hole and only do just over 1 full circumference (~3” overlap) so only 1 layer is over the valve hole.
@labpartnerlp
@labpartnerlp 2 жыл бұрын
For low pressure applications one layer is sufficient and my guess is that Stan's worries that installers may mess up the overlap section making sealing around the valve stem harder. Road tubeless prefers a double wrap due to higher pressures.
@peterawesomeness1
@peterawesomeness1 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome video. Great camera angles that let us see your technique! Thanks!
@mattwilliams4749
@mattwilliams4749 3 ай бұрын
Fixing to do this. Thanks so much!
@ptptride7480
@ptptride7480 11 ай бұрын
best technique ever! thanks m8
@IainNesbitt
@IainNesbitt 2 ай бұрын
Great video. Practical advice always the best! 👍
@yoondaman316
@yoondaman316 2 ай бұрын
Thank you, James!
@jfoster91784
@jfoster91784 Жыл бұрын
Best tape install I've seen!
@nd9329
@nd9329 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for the tips!! 🤘🏼
@dan10663
@dan10663 Жыл бұрын
So many experts in the comment section lol . Great video mate , I’ll be using this as a guide when my hope fortus arrive .
@ChrisSmith-bi8hs
@ChrisSmith-bi8hs 9 ай бұрын
Best video I've seen on doing this. Cheers. 🙂👍
@georgehsu1085
@georgehsu1085 2 жыл бұрын
Clever! I like it. Another thing I did was to pop in an old tube and inflate it with the tire overnight. The pressure pressed out all the bubbles.
@Jamesthebikeguy
@Jamesthebikeguy 2 жыл бұрын
Inflating the tube is a good way, but doing it smooth from the get go will avoid even needing to do that. Keep in mind every time you take your tire on and off there is a risk of damaging the tape so it would be my opinion to limit the chances. That said, if it works keep doing it!
@EcclestoN00
@EcclestoN00 2 жыл бұрын
This was really useful thankyou
@michaeltowler2632
@michaeltowler2632 28 күн бұрын
I've used duct tape before successfully, this time I bought proper rim tape and although it goes on looking good, it seems to unstick. I cleaned the rim thoroughly twice first too.
@luckybluebelle
@luckybluebelle 23 күн бұрын
Good job
@northkyt
@northkyt 2 жыл бұрын
Good tips, will try that next time I have to re-tape. Thanks.
@klyyoung2728
@klyyoung2728 2 жыл бұрын
Very helpful. Can you cover inserting the valve stem, adding sealant, and installing the tire as well? It'll be nice to see the whole process done properly.
@Jamesthebikeguy
@Jamesthebikeguy 2 жыл бұрын
I've got a video on that here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/eWmym4SBf7uXa9E Thanks!
@riffmeisterkl
@riffmeisterkl 2 ай бұрын
I think with 2 layers, it makes it easier to seat wider tires. I had the hardest time with 2.6” tires on 30mm rims. In the end, I fit a tube around the tire treads. This pushed the bead against the rim bed. Then some soapy water… finally seated…
@thenicsExercise
@thenicsExercise Жыл бұрын
Thank you, excellent explanation!
@Jamesthebikeguy
@Jamesthebikeguy Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@fuori_piste
@fuori_piste 2 жыл бұрын
Dude! Great trick. Thanks for sharing
@Jamesthebikeguy
@Jamesthebikeguy 2 жыл бұрын
Sure thing!
@AllanPhillips
@AllanPhillips 2 жыл бұрын
A very helpful and concise guide - thanks!
@Jamesthebikeguy
@Jamesthebikeguy 2 жыл бұрын
You're welcome!
@jamesbrittain9564
@jamesbrittain9564 7 ай бұрын
Awesome - thank you!
@Drogos79
@Drogos79 2 жыл бұрын
What about valve hole, just poke it or does it have to be cut precisely around hole?
@1kgStuntTeam
@1kgStuntTeam 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah just poke it with anything sharp like a screwdriver.
@danielpajkic9798
@danielpajkic9798 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this awesome method i did first try and it seald perfekt. How would thought such a simple method is so efektiv. Thank you🙏🙏
@harrygrimley4352
@harrygrimley4352 2 жыл бұрын
Cool. Thanks for sharing this with us
@Jamesthebikeguy
@Jamesthebikeguy 2 жыл бұрын
Sure thing!
@Baldysyoutubechannel
@Baldysyoutubechannel Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@1kgStuntTeam
@1kgStuntTeam 2 жыл бұрын
Great tutorial! Thanks for uploading. 💪
@eugenebrandon3914
@eugenebrandon3914 6 ай бұрын
great tip/video.
@CHAT316
@CHAT316 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video!!! Very helpful!!! Thanks!!!!
@Jamesthebikeguy
@Jamesthebikeguy 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@yeboscrebo4451
@yeboscrebo4451 2 жыл бұрын
Is the tire supposed to mount on top of the tape like that? I thought you weren’t supposed to cover the rim bead
@45graham45
@45graham45 15 күн бұрын
No it isn't. The tape is only there to seal the spoke access holes and so isn't required on the rim bead. Waste of tape going round twice too - no need if it's done correctly.
@andersnyberg4034
@andersnyberg4034 Жыл бұрын
Actually it doesnt work on hooked rims, because you need narrower tape because the tape takes up the space and doesn't let tire to seat.
@peterbedford2610
@peterbedford2610 3 ай бұрын
Double wrap...good call
@mikea327
@mikea327 Жыл бұрын
Good idea 💡
@Jamesthebikeguy
@Jamesthebikeguy Жыл бұрын
Thank you! Cheers!
@corvus400
@corvus400 Жыл бұрын
Great tips!
@Jamesthebikeguy
@Jamesthebikeguy Жыл бұрын
Glad you like them!
@nigelbradley613
@nigelbradley613 5 ай бұрын
Is it possible to fix/patch a hole in the rim tape without replacing or taping over the whole tape?
@nowisthetime12
@nowisthetime12 2 жыл бұрын
great video.
@S.C.A.M.B.E.R.
@S.C.A.M.B.E.R. 8 ай бұрын
How do you install rim tape in pinned joint rim? The gap between the pins is to big to neglec. Do I need to put rim tape in the walls of the rim to?
@jameswilson2815
@jameswilson2815 2 жыл бұрын
I use a wooden clothes pin to press the edges in. Same thing. Good job! Aloha
@Jamesthebikeguy
@Jamesthebikeguy 2 жыл бұрын
Nice same thing, same result
@Urbione
@Urbione Жыл бұрын
Hey did you use Elitewheels? You are happy with them do the survive in AM / Enduro conditions?
@signgod
@signgod 2 жыл бұрын
i usually wipe the rim down with alcohol 1st.. guess it dont matter much on a new rim
@Jamesthebikeguy
@Jamesthebikeguy 2 жыл бұрын
Good tip
@joseph-the-seventh
@joseph-the-seventh Жыл бұрын
How do you cut a hole out for the valve?
@TJ-ot3vl
@TJ-ot3vl 2 жыл бұрын
What wheels are those they look cool
@Jamesthebikeguy
@Jamesthebikeguy 2 жыл бұрын
Elite Wheels Pro36. Review video will be up prob a month from now after I get miles on them.
@IsaacGonzalez-et2bq
@IsaacGonzalez-et2bq 6 ай бұрын
not sure if it's meet but the stans tape seems to not stick very well at all. Rim is dry and wiped clean, so maybe it's still greasy somehow? Probably should spray down with alcohol and let air dry...Great technique though. I'm using this all the time now.
@jeffjacksonmtb
@jeffjacksonmtb 2 жыл бұрын
What's the best way to poke the hole for the valve? Thanks.
@wendellclark7
@wendellclark7 2 жыл бұрын
I use a small cross screwdriver to start the hole, then insert the valve.
@komoonkh
@komoonkh 2 жыл бұрын
Preferrably poking it with something round
@Jamesthebikeguy
@Jamesthebikeguy 2 жыл бұрын
Yep!
@joebidenshearingaid1618
@joebidenshearingaid1618 2 жыл бұрын
If you have rim tape that is too narrow can you double it over lapping the tape covering the whole well of rim ? Not sure if that made sense .
@driftadvocate1839
@driftadvocate1839 Жыл бұрын
yes and should
@robertmrivera
@robertmrivera 2 жыл бұрын
Is there a proper direction to adhere the taper? clockwise, counterclockwise, rolling direction?
@Jamesthebikeguy
@Jamesthebikeguy 2 жыл бұрын
I don't think so. Once the tire is mounted and seated there should not be any rotation happening anyway.
@drinkycrow2623
@drinkycrow2623 Жыл бұрын
how did you cut the valve hole?
@AncientGreek
@AncientGreek Жыл бұрын
My rim tape is too narrow? Everytime i remove the tire it removes the rim tape as well.
@killgates9890
@killgates9890 3 ай бұрын
I also go 2 layers, so i begin on the other side then the hole
@molley17
@molley17 Жыл бұрын
Tried doing mine but I think I’m getting a slow leak somewhere, the centre of my rim is quite hollow and the original tape fitted tightly into it, the tape I’ve done just wouldn’t go into it, does this make a difference?
@DIYManiacJohnP
@DIYManiacJohnP 2 жыл бұрын
My $.02 you tape is way too wide and double wrapping on a low pressure application like a MTB wheel is overkill
@Jamesthebikeguy
@Jamesthebikeguy 2 жыл бұрын
Fair two cents. My experience doing this personally and professionally over the past decade has led me to believe this works reliably. Double wrapping "may" be overkill but who wants a flat?
@rodwilson391
@rodwilson391 8 ай бұрын
I had to use a hairdryer to warm the tape before it would stick
@michaelviglianco6121
@michaelviglianco6121 2 жыл бұрын
What is your impression of the durability of Whiskey tape? I am looking for something that will work well for touring. Been using WTB and ST Swiss with good luck but DT is so expensive and WTB doesn't offer the ideal width I'd like to use.
@mcndjxlefnd
@mcndjxlefnd Жыл бұрын
Either double tape it or use gorilla tape for touring.
@michaelviglianco6121
@michaelviglianco6121 Жыл бұрын
@@mcndjxlefnd I would never use gorilla tape. It soaks through, makes a mess, and causes corrosion. Seen it too many times
@davidparkhurst9715
@davidparkhurst9715 Жыл бұрын
Valve stem??
@spaceshipearth356
@spaceshipearth356 2 жыл бұрын
Step #1: Buy a tape that you actually can stretch that easy. I bought a very tough tape the last time and it wasn't pretty. That tire lever trick is great.
@therealSIRBOOM
@therealSIRBOOM Жыл бұрын
That rim design is easy. Deep valley road rims... not easy.
@KH-fx3ok
@KH-fx3ok 2 жыл бұрын
Double wrap is wasteful and provides no added sealing unless you need to build thickness for loose tires.
@rafa6311
@rafa6311 3 күн бұрын
no soy ningun experto pero esa cinta es grande es ancha , yo recortaría ese sobrante ,por mi experiencia esos pliegues se doblaran
@JoeMcIntyre-oj2sd
@JoeMcIntyre-oj2sd Жыл бұрын
At :56.00 sec throwing the wheel down on the brake disc. Next video, true your rotors?
@milanstanimirovic1371
@milanstanimirovic1371 2 жыл бұрын
Would anyone recommend gaffers tape instead of tubeless tape??
@michaelviglianco6121
@michaelviglianco6121 Жыл бұрын
Only if you want sealant to soak through and corrode the spoke nipples
@Kathikas1
@Kathikas1 11 ай бұрын
Why waste time and money on that tape. Just put the/a tube on and scissor round it’s outer circumference, spread it out like a kipper and mount the tyre. The valve comes supplied of course so just trim off the excess tube each side and ride - no need to reinvent the wheel!
@31acruz
@31acruz Жыл бұрын
Dude.. you forgot to DRILL out the new valve opening size !!
@Jamesthebikeguy
@Jamesthebikeguy Жыл бұрын
No drilling required...
@jamesmedeiros2784
@jamesmedeiros2784 2 жыл бұрын
Next video: how to straighten your brake rotor
@Jamesthebikeguy
@Jamesthebikeguy 2 жыл бұрын
I could do that if you want it.
@jamesmedeiros2784
@jamesmedeiros2784 2 жыл бұрын
@@Jamesthebikeguy LOL only say that due to the way you threw the wheel on to the ground rotor side down
@Jamesthebikeguy
@Jamesthebikeguy 2 жыл бұрын
Oh, lol. Nah that's not an issue.
@canadalife3983
@canadalife3983 Жыл бұрын
i dont think the tape is supposed to come up the sides into the bead well...
@lastpme
@lastpme 7 ай бұрын
👍🏿
@Sam-fb8fy
@Sam-fb8fy 2 жыл бұрын
👌👍
@Jamesthebikeguy
@Jamesthebikeguy 2 жыл бұрын
🍻
@kjm-ch7jc
@kjm-ch7jc 2 жыл бұрын
That tape looks too wide for the rim.
@PJSinohin
@PJSinohin 2 жыл бұрын
Next, seat a tubeless tire without using an air compressor
@Jamesthebikeguy
@Jamesthebikeguy 2 жыл бұрын
Haha, that happens almost every time. Check my previous videos no need to have a air compressor. Or stick around the wheels I taped I have a video coming out on and they inflated compressor free.
@sandykavor8434
@sandykavor8434 2 жыл бұрын
The tape you had was too wide. You don't want it to come up to the side of the rim that much.
@Jamesthebikeguy
@Jamesthebikeguy 2 жыл бұрын
Infact I do want it to
@Juan_More_Mile
@Juan_More_Mile 2 жыл бұрын
@@Jamesthebikeguy in-fact you don't, you will need to replace it next time you use a lever to remove a tire
@michaelviglianco6121
@michaelviglianco6121 Жыл бұрын
Ive had much better luck wity double wraps.
@kevinadams1049
@kevinadams1049 2 жыл бұрын
Use Gorrilla tape and it's not nearly that complicated .
@dkoenig24
@dkoenig24 2 жыл бұрын
My LBS just suggested that
@shelbyhaque1980
@shelbyhaque1980 2 жыл бұрын
There was a thread I saw somewhere years ago (this is worse than heresay!) but apparently ENVE did a test of various tapes and found gorilla tape was the best. Somewhere between big pharma, big tobacco, big oil and big-bike-rim-tape, they apparently buried the study. I use gorilla tape because you can customize the width to any rim by simply starting a tear wherever you want (the strip gets ever-so-much smaller with each rotation of the spool of tape, so don’t start too narrow!) and it’s way cheaper than overpriced, underperforming rim tape. The other thing is that gorilla tape is very sensitive to tire levers, especially if you *mount* the tires using levers. So if you haven’t got into the habit of mounting tires by hand alone, you might tear the gorilla tape with your lever…
@rosomak8244
@rosomak8244 Жыл бұрын
Another demonstration convincing that tubeless is a cult. For rational people it is not worth the hassle.
@Jamesthebikeguy
@Jamesthebikeguy Жыл бұрын
What hassle. Onetime setup and then roughly no flats until the tire is worn out. Tubeless is one of the best things to happen to bikes.
@brainblasta2
@brainblasta2 Жыл бұрын
You still need rim tape for tube tires anyway.
@blaw7717
@blaw7717 Жыл бұрын
Yah, clinchers still need rim tape and if you don't apply it right, you'll get pinch flats from your tube getting cut on the nipple holes. Watch a few youtube videos and even a monkey can install tubeless without any problems!! 🐒👍🐒
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