Why Are Tattooers So Mean?

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[@JamesWithee]

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[@leslielively3092]

Hey is there a way you can perhaps do a vid on tattoo after care like big ticket items like I know to not pick the scabs but like things like aquaphore vs tattoo goo dos donts shit like that

[@rusty_shovel]

A big perk of using the same artist or shop for most of your work is developing a working relationship to the point where they welcome you back to the shop or tolerate more pricing questions knowing that you have and will pay for said work, without price shopping it. I have been fortunate enough to have artists who understand my financial limitations as a client and are willing to give me a price target to save up for. I've even been fortunate enough to have that session come in below that price, without sacrificing quality, which I am pleased to allot back to the tip

[@MrJakrab]

💯

[@srleitch75]

I've done multiple sittings with the same artist, definitely a better experience. I'm not a fan of walking into a new shop and starting over with someone new. My artist is out of a private studio and is "by-referral only" its a whole lot better imo.

[@AndresPerez-md9ic]

Got my first tattoo from an artist I want to keep going to for the same reason of building the work relationship and because I love the art. Having the same artist(s) is great

[@jokershit7675]

Factz. Been working w mine for two years. Did my sleeve & more to come fasho💯 it’s abt exploring and choosing the right one. Me personally I don’t like bein talked so idgaf 😂 as long as job is great, I appreciate silence

[@MsTreefox]

I'm working with an artist on a sleeve and I've enjoyed working with the same artist on a bigger project, such a better/different experience. The other artists say hi and chat with me when I come in now, don't think I'll be going anywhere else :)

[@MariW736]

I’ve wanted a few tattoos for some years now and haven’t made the effort because the shops do feel super intimidating, exactly as you describe. But hearing your rant and example stories is actually really helpful because I understand now what tattooers are experiencing, and I have a better idea of how to conduct myself so they would know I’m legit, and so that I don’t make it awkward. And actually, it’s kind of nice to know I’m not the only one who feels this way, I always just figured it was me not being cool enough, so to speak, lol. Thanks so much! I always enjoy your videos, and I extra appreciate this one, this may be the video that helps me get comfortable enough to make the leap on some thing I’ve wanted for so long now.

[@kimski1875]

That's awesome!!! 😎

[@JamesWithee]

Don’t worry, you don’t gotta be cool. None of us are cool either lol

[@TattoosLovers]

@@JamesWithee heyy James as what you mentioned here in your video i so agree with what you said i've seen it with my own eyes , my very good friend who is the boss / tattoo artist which i always go to to get my tattoos done at alot of weirdos ask & do crazy weird stuff , be4 i always think that tattoo artist are j*ckass & they are all rude but as time goes by now i finally understood why they are like that the way they are because other people ask / do stupid things that's why the tattoo artist treat everyone the same but now i don't blame them if i was them too i would too cause some people are only wasting the tattoo artist time .

[@annvassallo2604]

I felt that way too ... I really want more tattoos, but I felt like they thought I wasn't cool enough.

[@PolarBear-mj9wt]

I am fortunate, my tattoo artist is a cheerful, fun loving chap

[@Zeitgeist6]

Yeah same here. All the people in his shop are. Laid back people and they're always joking around with each other and the customers.

[@josefpdx]

Rare W

[@thomassantomartino7337]

I had a lot of tattoos and I was looking for a new artist because I felt I needed a change. I wasn't window shopping and they saw I had tattoos. They just didn't like me for whatever reason and and many of them didn't have customers at the time I was taking to them. I'm respectful and polite. I am up to tattoo #54 and working on a bodysuit. So they lost my business because either they didn't want to work with me for whatever reason or I felt uncomfortable in their shops. Sometimes shops have bad vibes.

[@rossmurrayfam1568]

They might get grumpy if people regret there work

[@EMMETproxy]

I think it's possible that they may thought that you wanted a cover up, some tattooers don't do those

[@hugorivas4922]

I kind of feel they are already tired of so many tattoos they do.

[@Russianspymma]

The fact that you counted your tattoos up to the number 54 indicates you’re a cornball

[@Polareyesx]

This became really deep really quick. I like how honest you are about the tattoo artist's perspective

[@naomimartinez6102]

I’ve been in shops where the tattoo artists are rude and brush people off really fast but def didn’t get that vibe from James shop! He answered all my questions and spoke very kindly to me. My attitude going in there was just like “ I need to respect this man’s time and trust HIS process.” You do amazing work James, can’t wait to get my piece from you!! 🤘🏼

[@JamesWithee]

Thanks! I’m glad that you had a good feeling about us. I’ll cya in a couple of weeks :)

[@tDOTbagger]

LOVE THIS!!! I have a degree in shit-talking and intimidation from the U.S. Army!😆 But people with PTSD and Social Anxiety aren't likely to deal with the stress involved in an interaction with someone being on the offense or downright rude very well. These types of people need a caring and helpful attitude or they will run away.(NOT to be read as snowflakes. That's what you described. 😂) I feel like this is a very real problem in the industry because THESE are the people with stories to tell AND they are more likely to get a tattoo then almost ANYONE! I always talk to a client and try to learn about who they are as a person before I even ask about what they want tattooed. This helps me to come up with something more personal to them and they also usually don't have a problem paying what I'm asking. I wear headphones so I don't get distracted by them so that I can do my best work. They show it off and tell people how great it was and the ball is FINALLY rolling for me! I LOVE this business but customer satisfaction can't happen if they don't get a tattoo! 😂 Patience is a virtue and breathing exercises DO help! LOL!

[@chatterati]

If you aren’t comfortable in these types of shops the bigger studios often have people on reception who will take the time to talk to you and book you in : )

[@w4768]

I’ve gotten a few tattoos, and during each session, I’ve witnessed people coming in and asking super generic questions like “how much for a sleeve?” Or “how much for a tattoo this big?” Without giving any detail. And when someone gets asked the same thing 1000x their brain probably has a generic answer that has been repeated so many times that it sounds “rude.” I feel really lucky to have had social media when I started getting tattooed so researching etiquette and how to tell the artist what info they need was so much easier right off the bat.

[@blair9607]

I get asked dumb stufff as a nail tech constantly ( I used to be a tattoo artist) and I’m never rude . How are they suppose to know I got asked the same thing 20 times that day ? It’s not the clients fault

[@DCshandle]

@@blair9607it’s a nail salon, there is usually frequently asked question for each business and people are human, being asked the same dumb question is redundant

[@alexmajor6579]

I spent a good 5 hours talking with you when getting my first session done and i wouldn't say you came off mean or impatient. You were direct but you were knowledgeable and respectful. Most importantly to me you were down to talk about whatever, some artists just dont like talking while tattooing and thats cool thats their choice but it's not the vibe for me. I appreciated that you're real and didn't tell me what i wanted to hear, you spoke your mind without a filter. I was respectful to you and being new admitted my ignorance on the topic when asking questions rather than acting like i knew shit from reading random info on the internet. You returned that respect and explained everything i had questions about well. People be sensitive as a motherfucker these days, they get used to reading bullshit on the internet then act like they know shit and start shitting on strangers on social media and arent held responsible for their own ignorance. Then they meet someone who actually knows their shit in person do the same shit to them then get all hurt when they get checked for it and i can see where in an industry where you deal with that many people for extended periods of time your tolerance for bullshit will wear thin and thats understandable. Do your thing man, fuck the noise.

[@JamesWithee]

Fuck ya bro I appreciate u leaving this comment here. My clients are the shit lol

[@pipedreamteam4184]

It seems like it would be on tattoo artists to streamline the tattooing experience rather than let their hearts grow cold in their flawed system

[@JavierSanchez-si5sj]

Lmao dude brought that energy to this video

[@flybeep1661]

I understand where you're coming from and most of your points are totally valid. However, looking from the other side, as a potential customer, I'm also prospecting suitable tattoo artists if I have a certain project in my mind. At 9:40 you say if I wouldn't give you the vibe I'll be having the tattoo with you and you're looking for "a way out" you're essentially shooting yourself in the foot. If I'm looking for an artist and his art suits my goal but the artist is "dissing" me in less than a minute because I didn't say the right things within that first minute (30 sec) I'm sure as hell won't be much motivated to say "ok, I'm gonna spend thousands and thousands of dollars on this guy for my full sleeve". I'll be out looking for someone who does have some patience to listen.

[@hannahrowe3902]

true

[@qnt1017]

Agreed! It’s like shopping for a car. I may come in and ask a lot of questions and may not even make a purchase that day. But if the sales person is patience and nice, I will come back to him when I’m ready.

[@kimski1875]

When I met my current artist for the first time I had a vague idea what I wanted and he'd been referred to me by a friend and I wasn't at ALL sure we were gonna be a good fit so I offered upfront to pay him for a consultation (so I could have his undivided attention). He said didn't normally charge for consults. I just said let me pay for thirty minutes of your time and if it doesn't pan out you haven't wasted the time and if it does you can keep it as a deposit. Our communication was on point, we totally vibed with each other, and I've been going to him every since. I get both sides totally. I've worked in the service industry where time is money but also as a potential client I want to be treated with respect and I certainly don't want to deal with someone being dismissive towards me either.

[@srleitch75]

I think its important to let the artist know from the get go what your intent is. Get to the point right away, "Im looking to get sleeve, Im interested in black and grey, do you mind if I look at your work?"

[@LilttleTeaCup]

I think that's when I will e-mail the artist instead of walking in to have an in-depth discussion. I can elaborate more and send the artist some picture ideas to see if he's interested. The artist can read the e-mail and look at the pictures in his free time. This way, it doesn't feel so rush. As he said, a lot of times, the artist may be in the middle of tattooing or dealing with other businesses. Just because he has a free minute to greet you, doesn't mean he has the time to have a full-on discussion. Also, with e-mail, you can copy and paste then send it to multiple artists you like, save you some time to shop around too. Just my thoughts.

[@Severetheband]

I feel judged when I walk into a shop covered up, the vibe completely changes when they notice how much work I have done. I really appreciate the down to earth artists

[@martinanugent5045]

As a women walking in to a tattoo shop your attitude to me is just as important. And i do think tattooists forget you are in a customer facing role.So if someone comes in asking questions or is nervous dont be so quick to brush them off. You are always told to research your artists and do your homework but thats hard to do if the artist is very abrupt and wont show you their portfolio.

[@darrylstanley2656]

Excellent video, James. I have a different perspective to share. I sought out a shop and artist online after a lot of research. The entire process was easy and efficient. My first visit to the shop was for the 1st consultation with my artist. Having an appointment provided an excellent customer service experience. When I arrived for the 1st of what turned out to be 5 sessions, I waited about 10 minutes in the lobby for the artist to get set up. I saw a couple of people come in and ask stupid questions, and the dynamic of the receptionists changed completely. It became clear over the time that the front desk staff managed the shop like a well oiled rotary machine. My advice to anyone thinking about their 1st tattoo is to educate yourself before showing up at a shop. Content like this has helped me in my journey. Your videos are great. I started collecting tattoos during travels instead of buying cheap trinkets. I'll check out Dark Horse when I get to Arizona!

[@thomassantomartino7337]

A receptionist can field the type of clients that doesn't fit the type of work an artist doesn't want to do.

[@skorpianking76]

This dude is very knowledgeable. I’m not an artist, but I am heavily tattooed. Even I get annoyed if I’m getting a tattoo and a bunch of newbies walk in and start squawking. Especially when they start asking my artist dumb questions. Keep up the good work James!

[@1957346]

Hahaha fr man. All they want to get is a lil ass tattoo lmaooo

[@46god]

squawking lmaoo

[@exurosanctus]

I love how short artists can get with people walking in asking dumb questions. The funniest time was when I was getting half of my right sleeve done. I had waited a year and a half for the appointment. This is in a private studio and some lady walks in the door and says excuse me, can I come in for a tattoo? We both had headphones on and she had to say it multiple times before we even heard her, it looked like she was just standing in the door staring. He took his headphones off and just tells her, "No, get out." And goes straight back to tattooing. The horrified look on this lady's face was priceless hahaha.

[@Davescousemetal]

Weren’t you a newbie once? How are they supposed to get tattooed if everyone’s an asshole in the shop?

[@Davescousemetal]

Tattoo artists are what happens when nerds get a bit of power.

[@user-zj9ow6vl1m]

Man you always post shit that I tell clients all the time, or that I think and haven’t put into words. Well put!

[@JamesWithee]

Haha thx dude I’m trying to help everyone understand our viewpoints. Hopefully I’m not fucking up by speaking collectively for tattooers. I know we’re all different

[@user-zj9ow6vl1m]

@@JamesWithee Nah I think you cover all the bases pretty well man

[@RichSutherlandBB]

I’ve always wondered this. More than any other group I’ve ever interacted with, more than the professional bodybuilders even, tattooists have a HUGE number of grumpy people and people with a “cool guy” attitude. So strange.

[@ashleypacpaco1932]

I am getting my first tattoo today, and it was hard to get an appointment. I made sure to follow their requests on their social media sites, so I didn't annoy them, and they still spoke to me with such disrespect. Watching your video helped me understand a little. I hope today goes well. I believe they should be respectful. Anyone can justify being a dick, it doesn't mean you have to be. The shop I am getting my tattoo at presents itself on social media as a really positive atmosphere, but already it's not. Watching your video yesterday helped me understand that no matter what shop I go to, they will treat me like shit. It's unfortunate because I wouldn'tr ever treat them disrespectfully.

[@MrArrrJay]

Thanks James, as a naturally shy person I've always been scared away from getting a tattoo because this aura tattooist have in their shops. Now you've explained this I'm feeling more relaxed about it all. :)

[@TheGamingHarbinger]

Dude that scenario you described with the family had me dying! I could totally see this happening! 😂😂😂. I think sometimes big groups are not realizing how much noise they are making and how obnoxious they come off.

[@devanelkins4468]

Love the vids man I’m getting my first tat on the 18th I can’t wait

[@JamesWithee]

Hell ya good luck!

[@devanelkins4468]

@@JamesWithee thanks

[@tylerbowman3376]

good lock bro

[@kyler8753]

got my first a week ago today, good luck my dude 👍

[@devanelkins4468]

@@kyler8753 thanks man I have 7 days

[@munkeeyman09]

“One person might say I’m an amazing person with a beautiful soul, another might say I’m a cold hearted asshole. Believe them both, I act accordingly” - Tattooer

[@fuzzy5987]

I definitely think it's an American culture thing in terms of attitude. In the UK the artists are super friendly and so kind. It helps that drugs are never an issue and that they won't tattoo you if you are drunk. It's also illegal to bring alcohol and children under 18 into a tattoo studio. I have been tattooed by over 10 different artists and all of them have treated me with the upmost respect. I've never walked into a studio and felt like I've been a 'problem'. Thanks for sharing your perspectives anyway James it's always interesting to hear❤️

[@jess82384]

100% agree! Just got my first tattoo last week! The shop had strict policies and paperwork I had to sign before I could even be seated - which i didn't mind at all because i was serious about getting my design. Some shops definitely do still have a weird/bad vibe, but once the artist sees that you're not just there to get the cheapest price possible they lighten up and become a bit more friendly.

[@Those.who.stay.silent.consent]

Absolutely agree. I did my med school and training in London and even the busiest tattoo parlor had someone cool and humble you could talk to and even exchange a super cool conversation with. Whether you were getting a sleeve or a simple date on your arm, you were treated with the same decorum and the same joie de vivre. And God knows how many drunks there are at 3 in the afternoon in North London, or kids who come to annoy the shop owner, still doesn't change how cool they are to their clients. I've seen a big burly man comfort and hug a girl who was getting her ears pierced when I was waiting for him to get my nipple piercing. She was freaking out a little and this guy spent the next 30 minutes reassuring her, explaining to her the after care, etc. Just for a 30 quid piercing. I gave him double the price of my piercing as a tip, because I was so touched by his attitude and respect. Old dude in this video is making sure people won't ever come to his shop with that entitled attitude and first world problems

[@katik4208]

In Germany they are exactly like described in the video

[@JamFlexx]

there are so many artists in uk that do insanely good work, I am jealous .

[@katherinefreeman9009]

Looks like I’m moving to the uk bc way to many of the shops here (tattoo and piercing) are pretentious and gatekeep services. I’m so sick of it. I’m always super respectful and knowledgeable, having done my research and I still get treated like shit no matter where I go.

[@opSquadhttp]

Thanks for covering this man, this covered my first experience with a tattoo artist down to the T. I think this is a video every newcomer needs to watch.

[@ezragonzalez8936]

If I am going in for a $7k tattoo and the tattoo artist acts like 5 minutes is too much, he can f off!

[@wonder_9315]

I love how he used Macy’s as an example of random joints having shitty customers, I work there rn and I gave up on the customer service voice a week in. Customers everywhere are gonna be absolutely stupid and tedious, so I 100% understand why artists are gonna have a more hardened mentality

[@musicgirl12357]

Same goes with working in the food industry.

[@aquana]

I've been to a bunch of different shops before I found the guy I ended up sticking with (plus I really want to see if the studio is clean and professional enough so I don't get some sort of weird infection). Most of my interactions have been fine. I found that places that have a receptionist are the best because they can tell you when the artist has time so you can just sit and wait for a break or whatever - if they see that they have someone chilling there waiting for them without expecting to be seen immediately really helps with the attitude. What I really dislike is when they make up shit instead of telling you that they don't want you as a client. I went to this guy whose works I loved on instagram, waited for him, talked to him and showed him the two monsters I would wanted - just two reference pics, everything else would have been his design. Full colour sleeve too, so it's not like I was asking for something small and cheap. The guy started pulling faces and then had the nerve to explain to me that he can't do that because "my arms are too thin" - I took that as my cue to say "okay, thanks for your time, bye" and walked out because that's bullshit and my artist managed to work with it just fine, he was just a little limited with the space when it came to wraparounds. Like... man, "I won't do that tattoo because I don't like the idea/am booked full/whatever" is a perfectly good answer, no need to make stupid shit up. I'm already intimidated and polite, there's really no need. I've told the story to the guys at my current studio and they were like "oh yeah he probably just didn't want to do it, it's not like we only tattoo buff/fat people". (In case I sound pissed off - that's not how I talk to tattoo artists, I'm just mad because I love my sleeve and his dumbass comments about being too thin almost made me give up on the idea because hey, if a professional says it's impossible, it must be impossible, right?)

[@oranje9342]

I was worried about my thinness in relation to my forearm sleeve as well but no matter size artists should and will scale down the design or maybe do some adjustments with each element but nonetheless u can get what u want regardless of size. I found a really friendly female artist who I reckon I’m gonna click with well .. discussing the sleeve this week and if she has to make adjustments or change some things in the design I’m cool coz she’s the expert ! ( as long as it’s nature themed ) I’m glad u found a better artist

[@kumsinnasadi6051]

So charge a fee for a consultation cos there are people that generally don't know and are also quick tempered from disrespect. Its not an excuse I get not being interested in the whole life story which u can mention but they don't need to be rude.

[@marcusedcofficial]

Im not new to tattoos but everytime my appointments are coming up I binge videos like these😂 this dude is awesome

[@holyshitamexican]

Watching this made me happy I have a good relationship or understanding with my tattoo artists 😂

[@scorpfpv8647]

You pretty much nailed I’ve been tattooing for 11yrs now and yup you nailed it

[@HealingSpectrumIntuition]

I was a little nervous about my first tattoo and I walked into a shop like this. It did not help my nerves but I went through with it anyways like a boss. The shop is now closed down probably because of their attitudes.

[@candacejordan1816]

Just got my first tatoo last Friday! I tried to be as mellow and non annoying as possible. My artist was reserved, but warmed up when I asked him a couple questions about his life. Overall it was a good experience. BTW as a Christian girl, I do not understand why we always get either scripture, a cross, a fish, or an infinity sign😦 I mean the bible is a thick book with a bunch of epic inspiring stories, yet somehow this doesn't translate to our tatoos. Get more creative people!!!

[@JamesWithee]

Nice! Glad to hear it went well. And you are so right about Christianity themed tattoos. So many good references for realistic art, like historical statues, paintings, etc, and that’s just one style. Endless possibilities, but ppl tend to go with the basic stuff for some reason

[@StrawKatt]

Probably because it's "safe"

[@katreyu2967]

Let’s start a trend of Biblically correct Angels and such there’s some crazy stuff in those books I am not sure if there only in the old Testament though if anyone knows please correct me 😊

[@dasaint_lydia]

@Candace Jordan what tattoo did you get

[@crawdaddy019]

My experience is that like anything artists that raise the bar and go that extra mile reap the rewards. More clients, better supplies/equipment, increased satisfaction.

[@therestingmitchface6241]

Ngl I wish I could use my normal RBF and act with a bit of a rougher attitude with customers. I work retail and get lost in those “endless conversations” and “dumb questions” every day I’ve never had an artist act rude to me in my memory. They were quiet and not chit-chatty, but as introvert I get it. Especially when someone does long pieces, the last thing they want to do is talk a lot with people

[@botanicalstuff]

Great topic. Thankfully the first shop I walked into, I was first greeted nicely. Afterwards, I experienced different types of attitudes from different people who worked there. Nowadays, I only go to the private studios that my artists have. :)

[@jessicaspencer82917]

At the end of 2020 I found an awesome artist. She opened her open shop and is super nice.

[@Horner181]

I love these talking videos because I can binge them while working,I like all the tattoo videos also but that’s more when I’m around the house.your doing a killer job! Appreciate you

[@elleo1864]

Your experiences with the public as a tattoo artist are very similar to those of 911 dispatchers 😆

[@bang8782]

I have felt weird walking into a couple tattoo shops. It’s a weird uncomfortable vibe. I even witnessed a chick that wanted an Infiniti symbol get talked out of it by the tattoo artist because “he does so many of those.” She got a flower instead. This place I went to over the weekend made me feel welcomed and were super friendly. I was very straight forward with them and I got to talk to the artist and tell him what I want. I have a 6-8 hour appointment in couple weeks I can’t wait. Love the videos.

[@KitlingBlack]

Such a legit and comprehensive explanation! Thanks and I will remember for future interactions!

[@Ray-lw2rh]

The lady that did my sleeve was the nicest person I’ve ever met. Definitely going back in the future when I’m doing my right arm.

[@letmusiclivee]

As a new tattoo artist, you are fucking spot on !! Especially when people complain about the price ughh.

[@theminismith1805]

my first tattoo was a sleeve that extends onto my chest. when I walked in asking for a massive piece as a first tattoo, i was met with dismissive attitudes lol however i did all my research ahead of time about tattooing and what its all about. I could do full day sits, sat like a rock, never had friends come in. I ended up becoming good friends with all the staff and artists, one day when they were short staffed, they asked me to work the counter and my artist did my chest piece for free. its pretty much a medical procedure, you wouldn't bring your friends in and pull that annoying shit at the dentist, it has no place in a tattoo shop.

[@sketchfuture]

Facts bro. It’s hard to not be cold and protect your own energy

[@franklittle]

This explains so much of my initial genuinely wanting a tattoo while autistic experience! Thank you James.

[@jimmyrustles358]

This is so true. First guy I went to wasn't interested at all, which was weird because I was going for a half sleeve. I paid my deposit, but I couldn't shake the feeling of trusting this guy who didn't even want to spend 5 minutes discussing the tattoo with me. I went with another artist, who was a little more interested but not very talkative. After I got the tattoo done, he became very cheerful and talkative. I was super happy as well and it was a great moment.

[@RachtheGreat95]

I appreciate your perspective on this! I don't have a tattoo yet but planning to get one. Doing my own research beforehand has been a huge help so far.

[@CarminaVillamizarBeautyDiva]

Great video! I kind of figured that out but it really makes it difficult to trust . My first tattoo , a rose on my collar bone about 2”, the artist was not that social he did a okay tattoo but not what I wanted. I wanted water droplets he said no, I showed reference pics that was rose with leaves and he did not add any leaves. Now no one wants to re work my rose and I don’t want to laser it. So from that experience I am super careful when getting tattoos. I want a hand and a thigh tattoo now. Some tattoo artist from the emails don’t sound interested, could be what you mentioned, but I am afraid to get another “ ok tattoo” with only option is laser if I don’t like it. I am not a difficult client, once get to the studio I ask very little questions. As long as the drawing is what I want, I don’t ask anymore questions. Till this day I don’t know why my tattoo can’t be re worked, as a client if an artist could tell me why I would most likely be more inclined to consider them for one of my future projects. Just given a perspective as a client on how these “ dry email conversations” can make clients like feel. Always great content!

[@speakeasy7192]

Ive shared this video so many times. As an artist of 18+ years its good to have a video that perfectly explains this

[@alleycatfire]

The artist of my first "big" tattoo has a website that is VERY clear that she's there to tattoo and not deal with these situations (one person only, no chatting, etc. - it seemed pretty "harsh" at first but I understood). Once I was there and made it clear that I wanted to enjoy her art, collaborate with the type of piece she wanted to create (blended with my asks), pay her for her labor, and have a positive experience, the wall came all the way down! We chatted the entire time - she was very warm. I'm definitely going back sometime this year for another piece. That's the approach I try to take with every artist I work with.

[@AstralAkshay]

“Collaborated with the type of piece she wanted to create” 😂😂 you are the paying customer. You should be getting whatever you want done on your body. Not what the artist wants. Don’t go back and get another tattoo you will regret getting tattoos. ❤

[@alleycatfire]

@@AstralAkshay I have several tatts and love them all! I love going to an artist and asking what they love to create and finding one who throws themselves into the art in ways that I love. In this case (from over 2 years ago) the artist specialized in things I love and I had been wanted to work with them for awhile. They put out a last minute opening on IG and I scooped it up; the post said they wanted to do a piece with nature and at least one animal (the exact style I wanted). All that to say, it was a beautiful conversation and collaboration. I got exactly what I wanted - a beautiful piece and a wonderful memory. I've also gone in with an exact idea and found the artist to best execute it. With all my tatts, I asked for revisions to the design - that's part of collaborating lol. I'm not sure what made you think "collaboration" meant "slavishly, passively subjected to something I didn't want," but good luck to you.

[@AstralAkshay]

@@alleycatfire hey thanks for your message but I still stand on my previous message however to a lesser degree. I think it’s cool that you got what you wanted but I still don’t understand why tattoo artists say I want to do a nature piece with atleast one animal as if it’s going on their body lolll😂. Anyways I’m happy you like your tattoos at the current moment and I’m honestly not trying to be mean but I just hope you will remember me and this comment when you most likely regret your tattoo in 7-25 years and have a little chuckle ❤️❤️

[@alleycatfire]

@@AstralAkshay Ahhh internet people and their projections. It's okay that my orientation is antithetical to your approach and would not constitute your happiness or satisfaction. However, to assume my approach is antithetical to mine is condescending and ego-centric. Also a little cringe to come at it from a smug, superior "you won't be happy, trust me" perspective - you don't know me, my age, the number of tattoos I have, how long I've had them, etc. YOU wouldn't be happy and disagree, leave it at that. Sheesh.

[@AstralAkshay]

@@alleycatfire I’m sorry I’m not trying to be mean or rude I just want you to be happy and think about your decisions wisely. I am sorry for saying the things I said the way I said but whatever makes you happy is cool but I watched a KZbin video and it was an older lady saying how she regrets her tattoos and she wish she never got them so yeah…

[@davidbyourplanb]

Thanks! I'd rather direct and not waste on anyone's time

[@MsTreefox]

I had a funny experience in Vegas. I was getting a tattoo and had made an appt with the artist for later in the day. He and I sort of hit it off and were having a good chat, kind of a big gruff guy that ended up sort of opening up. We were getting close to finishing, but he asked me if he could just "work on me" for a bit more and he added some more details without changing the price. He said the client he had this morning came in to get his first tattoo, was a bit obnoxious, and was back for his 2nd (same day!) And he wasn't ready to bring him back yet LOL! So by being chill, I got a bigger and more detailed tattoo than I had been quoted. I tipped him well and he ended up giving me a hug. 💛 I never expected it and would never expect it, but goes to show being respectful is a good practice

[@Timetells24]

Love the honesty. Having the context and explanation behind it, is definitely understandable.

[@Uncle.AndysTattoo]

You said it exactly how I feel as a tattooist. I couldn't of said it any better!

[@dietdiego]

i love hearing the artists standpoint, and you have a real intelligent and understandable demeanor, def deserves my sub:)

[@jstarASMR3103]

Just started watching your videos recently, and I love how unapologetic you are! Loveee your videos😁

[@jadeahn4288]

This is such a great video. it perfectly explains the usual attitude of tattoo artists. Especially, the first and third reasons are the main reasons why. I'm a tattoo artist in Korea. and here tattooing is 'Illegal' and sometimes, few customers trying to get a benefit from us by using that social position of the tattoo artist. They well-acknowledged we can't call the cops even though they ran away without paying. and add on to the first reason. we facing the fucking idiots every single day. since getting a tattoo is taboo in Korea, the majority of customers are really young douchebags who think themselves as hardcore or gangster and shit. they don't respect the artist. and we got a lot of calls and messages at midnight from drunk people. or sometimes people just send DM and said 'Price?' that's it. my teacher who taught me a tattoo said to me tattoo artists should have the charisma to control the customer and the whole situation. I can't imagine random mofo masturbate in the back ally of the shop in Korea tho I'm pretty damn sure running a tattoo shop in the states must be insanely exhausting. Thanks for the great video.

[@tattoogado91]

THIS GUY HERE SPEAKS THE TRUTH!!

[@nickj12]

I noticed this about the bigger shops. Thank you for covering this.

[@eastbayartist]

I’ve actually had some kid come in with a women posing as his mom. Had to ID both and caught. It was frustrating just setting up appointments.

[@Yosoysmg]

Ive watched many of your videos and i’ve yet to see you take a sip of water, impressive.

[@tn00bz]

I think about who I was when I was 18/early 20s and how I would go about gettin a tattoo vs how I would now. When I was 18 I wanted super specific stuff, had virgin skin, was concerned about money, etc Now money isnt a huge deal for me, I understand that the tattoo artist is going to do what makes sense for them, I'm more likely to search out someone who already does stuff I like. As you might imagine, tattoo artists don't come off as rude to me anymore because I kinda "get it" now.

[@AlexRodriguez-bf7dt]

dude you're hilarious lol much love

[@maygonzalez4249]

Those specific scenarios that you described were EERILY ACCURATE!! 😂 As a 22 yr old female artist, I tend to be more stern with men. I do a lot of fine line work and my clientele is mainly women, so when a guy walks in wanting a big bold piece they tend to be quite condescending and they ALWAYS try to bargain with an already fair price but they don’t do that with the other guys. 🙃

[@joshlobes3807]

Great video👍🏻👍🏻🤣.....you described 1000s of us perfectly 👍🏻

[@MrJakrab]

I find shop owners too be the worst, if a shop owners stressed they fuck up everyone's vibe 99% of the time. This is just my experience. I've been very very very lucky to have found awesome and friendly tattooers early. I'm now good friends with everyone that tattoos me... I guess I'm just that cool? Lmaooo

[@vibingbeast2060]

Cool video man! I'm going in for my first consultation tomorrow 👍

[@ImLazz]

dude ur videos are freakin great. all the points you make so so valid i really appreciate how u went kinda in depth into how a lot of tattoo artists tend to be kinda more of the outcast of society and that we weren’t the popular kids in school. i appreciate how u explain these things. and also the stories you explained of the non tattooed people coming in and making a circus out of the shop. thats so for real,, ur great dude keep it up! i enjoy everything u say!

[@thatboyunfazed99]

I definitely get where artists are coming from. It’s very hard physical work, stress is immense on both sides. One little mistake could quiet literally fuck someones life up. And it doesn‘t help that there are so many dicks around and people with wild individual ideas expecting you to come up with a design exactly the way they imagined. Had my 1st tattoo yesterday and my artist was very polite but also quiet distanced and cautious interacting with me. For the first like 4 hours we literally didn‘t exchange a word with both of us having headphones on - fine with me since I’m anxious anyways - but once she realized I wasn‘t a psychopath we were chatting like we knew eachother from kindergarten. And she performed magic on the skin, she was really into a design and I let her do her thing. Already looking absolutely juicy with the grand finale coming up tomorrow, can‘t wait. Give them freedom to some extend, the more they are into it and the less you bitch and flinch the better it will come out.

[@stealthswim223]

As someone who is looking to get a tattoo memorializing my triplet girls, even the artist I chose was very short with me. I figure they get asked all the time just like you said. I also just only have 1 tattoo and so to make the right choice, you have to ask questions. I’m a critical care nurse, and I get the feeling of dealing with drugged people. I despise alcohol for all of the alcoholics I have helped detox over the years.

[@Xenon-4300]

I’m definitely a tattoo artist at heart. This commentary was gold.

[@r.josephgrundy1706]

Well said man! This is exactly why, when I initially started getting tatted, I tried finding one specific artist to regularly ink me. I can actually see it from both sides. Yeah...can you imagine the reaction I received, stepping into a shop for the 1st time and asking for a barb wire tattoo (totally just dated myself lol). Extra cred, for bringing up the "lack of proper customer service training". That point alone, should sum up the the topic. Needless to say, 20+ year's and 40+ tatts later, I don't have to deal with that. Thanks again

[@freedomfighters1236]

Definitely agree 100 percent ive been in it for almost 20 years and he's absolutely right

[@kais.9829]

I find this so interesting because I've never personally met a rude or mean tattoo artist irl. I've been to four shops. Once as a walk-in, the others were through appointment. Just went to a consultation yesterday. It was in a private studio and the moment he opened the door for me we started chatting about various things like we were already friends. The shitty weather, instruments we play, art museums, tv shows, etc. All while he drew out the design in front of me. Last time I got tattooed the artists in the studio were randomly coming over to watch and chat. Plan out their ski trip with the artist tattooing me. I don't think anyone is lying about meeting kinda rude (but not necessarily mean) artists. I just find it interesting the wildly different experiences people have. Maybe I got lucky. Which is great, a rude artist probably would've scared me off. Cause vibes are super important to me.

[@KaipoDaKidd]

That specific ass example was too good bro new to the channel lovin da content bruddah 🤙🏽🙏🏽

[@AshyBeccaable]

Thank you for your genuine and honest explanation. Your second point really hit accord with me because my first interaction with a tattoo artist felt negative and have held off on tattoos because of that dismissive conversation. I set up a time to consult with her and when I walked in she was tattooing a walk-in client. Our conversation seemed rushed and she seemed annoyed and distracted to get back to the client. To me, I felt brushed off. Your second point allowed me to see it better from her perspective about running her own business, her time was precious, and I was probably asking stupid tattoo virgin questions, wasting her time. I definitely am more educated now and see how I can make the process as easy for my artist to help influence a positive time for both parties.

[@chezannelavieendouceur]

It is a year after your comment but please be careful because you should never feel unwelcome. If that artist was professional they would have asked you to come back to schedule an appointment later. It is normal to have questions. It will be on your skin forever, so it's important you feel seen and heard.

[@phoenixbenjamin]

Don not call a shop & ask if they do walk ins. The whole point of walk in, is walk in be kool. If an artist is available & you do this right, good chance you may get in. And walk-in at the beginning of the day not at the end during closing time. If it is not a very small tattoo respect the artist may be booked & you will receive better treatment if your willing to make an appointment.

[@sherryindera]

Thanks! Really needed to hear this. Appreciate it!

[@brandoncombs92]

After tattooing for 19 years… I’d say this pretty well hits the nail on the head

[@agreenhouseghost]

I think folks also don't realize how physically demanding the job can be. Being in the same position for hours is hard on the back, wrists, etc. Then no shows for long ass appointments, people being shitty about pricing/acting as if the price is way too high even when it's the norm. I've also noticed the more tattoos I have gotten, the more respect I get from artists. They see I have spent the money before and that I actually intend to get a tattoo.

[@katreyu2967]

Got a kick out of this video pretty spot on 😂 thanks for all the knowledge on tattooing as well most of its held pretty close to the chest so cheers for all the help

[@janedoe2446]

ah no way, I live in gilbert too and I just checked out all of your guises work! i’ll for sure be coming in soon

[@OrdoAbChao506]

poetically put and honest. Definitely a constantly evolving field and hard to maintain efficacy and customer experience, but thats also what makes researching where you invest and who you invest in so important. I truly feel across the board the average consumer is borderline a complete scumbag, me formally included. Most people can care less it seems about what they are buying. They want it fast, cheap, perfect while being completely unreasonable in most cases. love these videos by the way thanks for putting in the time, these videos are honestly what people need to see more of to access their understandings of what it means to go get a tattoo. Thanks you James from a private shop in moncton canada :)

[@GloryBea64]

I've worked as a hospital RN for almost 40 years, many of those years in the ER, so cry me a river with your problems and how you justify being rude to everyone following the motto shot first ask questions later!

[@myvenusinuranus]

lol......I love this video. I have full sleeves from the late 80's before it was cool to have sleeves. I been in so many tattoo shops in my life, hung out in them, worked in one. most of my friends are tattoo artists. I've experienced the tattoo shop vibe. I understand the tattoo shop vibe I seen all kinds of things happen in tattoo shops, all kinds of people, good and bad. lots of bad attitudes, posers, fakes, big tough guys that faint, puke, or piss themselves as soon as the needle touches the skin. losers that try bargain over the price you can always tell if someone is going to get a tattoo and who's just wasting time. if they say they have to go use the ATM.......they never come back

[@JamesWithee]

Lol if these mfs need to use an atm I’m going with them to supervise just like a stripper does after too many vip lap dances

[@Henry-gf7bk]

Hey bro I actually did have to use the ATM 😭 was just getting some tip money for the artist :)

[@annvassallo2604]

That scenario is such a nightmare!! I don't know how you can work?

[@julieghim7846]

My collection of tattoos isn’t very extensive, but I still feel very lucky that all of my experiences getting tattooed thus far have been super positive! ❣️ I feel like one other reason why some artists come off as rude is because many artists are their own boss/own their own studio and they don’t have a manager breathing down their necks policing their tone. They can leave a bad review, sure- but if I didn’t have to worry about being fired I’d probably say what I was actually feeling more often too.

[@pitpride1220]

That makes sense. Pay attention to homeless folks,drug addicts,alcoholics, escorts,street life folks etc. Most have ink.

[@rossmurrayfam1568]

Yeah but thats usually prison tattoos look at tattoos that are done properly there some rich wealthy people with tattoos and friendly

[@filobata]

Very insightful. Thanks for the vid. Got a consult next week for my 3/4 sleeve.

[@MsPutaaa]

I’ve been working on all a sleeve for a year now. And this client doesn’t sit still, micro manages the whole process, questions my skills, And is so cheapppppp!!!!!! Unfortunately I’m stuck with him because I want to finish this whole sleeve but it’s definitely a lesson learned. I think for my next approach is to be transparent and firm (be more aggressive) because ppl will take advantage

[@redhotmcr]

i'm genuinely curious, how are they cheap? didn't they know the price for your work in advance and agree to it?

[@MsPutaaa]

@@redhotmcr yes but throughout the entire session he tells me how expensive it is. That I should leave it for a cheaper price, giving me all these sad stories to guilt trip me ect. I work long hours with this dude And he doesn’t tip, Even tho It doesn’t matter to me if they tip or not.

[@MikeSmith-ty7dd]

@@MsPutaaa that’s tough, been there. I realized most customers didn’t realize that most artists get a percentage of the fee. They don’t see the shops cut/your rent, they don’t see the hours of drawing without pay, they don’t see most of the costs.

[@nnejdee5094]

I only have two tattoos. My second one is a half sleeve that I basically had to email audition for. I’d followed the artist for awhile and always knew I wanted a piece of her art. It was nice to have the initial conversation through email from the comfort of my couch lol.

[@NormanZealandMalana]

I've always felt this vibe around tattoo shops. It's the main reason why I've never stepped into a tattoo shop. Just look in, from outside. They have a "holier than thou" vibe, to me.

[@christophersmith8028]

Just stumbled on this, and your channel overall, as I’m still doing some research on finding an artist for a first piece. Love the insight, and perspective you provide to not only new clients, but veterans alike. It’s funny you mentioned the Harry Potter thing as I’m looking to get a rad sorting hat piece done. Haha Cheers, and thanks for the solid information and content.

[@Frodo.Teabaggins]

As a 21 yr veteran of tattooing, social anxiety plays a big key as well..... or asking us to copy someone else’s work. So much for individuality or creativity

[@artbyrooster]

THANK YOU! Following and sharing. This is PERFECT advice. Sharing on my Facebook now.