16v swapped VW Fox - lowered, shaved, caged, ITBs, and more. AKA VW Voyage VW Senda

[@JamieOrr]

GOSTARIA DE VER LEGENDAS EM PORTUGUÊS? Por favor, goste ou comente, e farei isso em alguns dias

[@alvessc1644]

Concerteza huehue

[@mmm3mmm]

YEP !!!

[@JamieOrr]

Eu solicitei a tradução, e ela estará pronta em 3 dias :-)

[@CanalAutosMotivos]

Por favor!! 👍👏👏

[@Blakelikesfood]

@@JamieOrr Contact me if you have leads on Audi 80 / Fox 70's parts cars. Thanks

[@timbazuvfunareo454]

I had a 1990 VW Fox..nicest car ive ever rolled over..super safe

[@jefferysmith3930]

Even stock, these things were a blast. I wanted one as soon as I saw the original advertisement with a Beetle entering the corner and a Fox exiting the corner. I was not disappointed when bought a 2 year old ‘87 base 2dr. (Only ac and a dealer fit Blaplunkt cassette player, no pass. Side mirror!) My 20 year old self drove the hell out of it for about 3 years with no failures. Good torquey little motor. Good handling and brakes. Decent seats and ride comfort. A real driver’s economy car.... a trait few care about in the USA. I don’t think these were ever offered with an automatic transmission which was another limiting factor of their appeal in this country. I do recall, with so many unique parts, maintenance was not cheap! Brake pads cost the same on my lowly Fox as the Mercedes 300D my stepdad drove at the time. Oh, my mom’s daily back then was an ‘83 Quantum. We weren’t the average family when it came to cars

[@gastonracui5714]

In Uruguay it was call VW Amazon, so another name to add to the inf list 😂

[@JamieOrr]

I used that name in the tags 😅❤️❤️

[@FranRuiz]

Hi Jamie! actually in Argentina we didn´t have a 3 door Senda. We had the Gacel (with the big square front lights, air vents at the front windows and kind square rear lights. It had a restyling with a different front lights and grill and a change of coulours of the rear lights), then the Gacel got a restyling again that include the front and rear of your orange Fox, different interior and dashboard. The engine in both were the same AP. The Gacel had the 1.6 and 1.8, and with the restyling VW introduced the Gacel GS that was a 1.8 with more power and Recaro interior. The third restyling that the Gacel had was actually the born of the Senda, the Gacel GLS (1992 aprox) was like a Senda but 1.8, was the top version of the Gacel. Then it came the Senda (1992 to end of production).. it was like the Gacel GLS but 1.6 . Have your like sir! Cheers from Argentina!

[@JamieOrr]

Thanks, great input! I totally agree about the Gacel e Senda only being four door. In North America all models were called the Fox, 2/4/Wagon, so I have a habit of describing the early Fox as the Gacel, and the facelift later version as the Gacel, whether 2 door coupe or 4 door sedan, oops.

[@marcos2250]

Brazilian here and I learned a lot from your vid!

[@JamieOrr]

Muito obrigado!

[@hibafuscamaniaco]

Niceeeee, Jamie! The first time I saw your cars was on Tiago Kfouri channel! As a Brazilian car enthusiast owner of a 94 Parati, I feel myself honored to see your job making this cars known and respect more than here in Brazil sometimes! Yes, there are many people here who likes this cars. But, there also many ones who talk a lot of thash about It! So, see what u have done to your Fox and the Saveiro is really cool! Keep saving this amazing models that u find and sharing with all gearheads what a true enthusiast do for a car!

[@cekinel]

Nice work, now i see the Voyage here in other way

[@lgracco]

Jamie, numbers of your brazilians fans just grown up,more and more!!!!

[@Dheveraldoferreira]

Aqui no Brasil, ele é conhecido como voyage

[@djmhyde]

ele falou isso no início do vídeo......

[@improvisu]

Todo mundo sabe

[@renatinhodaheropuch1260]

In mexico is Volkswagen Gacel

[@RedSunrise91]

NOISES! Crazy sounds, reminds me of a Subaru boxer for some reason. Love it!

[@fernandomenezesbara4530]

Jamie thank you so Much for translating your videos!!!!!!

[@henriknilsson7851]

Love this. I had a stock Fox 4 door sedan, metallic blue. I wish you could still buy something like this. This is a cool project, beautifully done!

[@pdx650]

Jamie, I am so happy to hear your enthusiasm about your fox. Yes, the 1st gear on my wife’s ‘80 Dasher diesel wagon 1.6 non turbo is very short. She doesn’t drive it. She lets me, but we have a few parts cars and the one I bought does have a 1.6 turbo diesel. Audi should have made that a slightly taller gear. What I have read is that the longitudinal design is an audi layout. The audi 80, vw fox, dasher, quantum all had this layout. The B3, of which I owned also and wished I still had, was the first generation of the transverse engine design. I promised my wife I would not drive the car too hard since the engine was new and has less then 5k miles on it since she had it replaced. The old 1.5 diesel stroker had bad piston rings and it lost compression. I didn’t know torque steer was caused by uneven length driveshafts. Thanks for sharing that. We have a parts car dasher with a three speed auto. A five door hatchback diesel I put the no. 1 connecting rod through the block of. Sorry, honey. The diesel is a finicky beast. I’ve never driven a gas dasher/passat B1 yet, but the three speed automatic one we have does have a gas engine. I think it is a 1.6 gas with jetronic injection. Three wagons and a hatchback. We love these cars. Would you ever consider moving up your transmission to the B2 quantum 5 speed? I think our wagon needs it to get over 60 mph without killing our new engine.

[@zeroswings2]

had an 88 fox for a while... not something I thought I'd ever see looking 'cool'... but, this is nice

[@mariobalbinojunior]

VW Voyage, VW Gol, VW Parati and VW Saveiro are national passion here in Brazil. There are some copies of VW Fox here too, I've seen some collectors that even have the original manual ... My father had a 1995 Voyage with power steering and air conditioning, which is not very common here! great video Jamie!

[@JamieOrr]

Thank you for sharing, and for the kind words!

[@MarcosMartinelli1]

I am Brazilian and I have a VW Gol 97 AP turbo for daily use and trackday, i am very happy to see that we have a similar passion ! Congrats, your Voyage is awesome!

[@adamv242]

+1 for the 'golf ball' shift knob. Was thrilled to find one of these in a salvage yard and enjoy it in my Scirocco 16v BITD.

[@MPonce96]

My first car was a VW Gacel Fierro 1.8 1988, a very fun car to drive, i still in love with these Volkswagen, GOL, GACEL, SENDA AND SAVEIRO

[@blankczechz]

I had an '87 and an '88 Fox both 2 doors 4 speed, maroon in color with tan interior. I loved them. They were as close as you got to the original beetle for simplicity and dependability but with hot heat and cold a/c. I also remember those rear window louvers. I'd love to have another. Kept my Bentley manual forever just in case. Just found your channel. Been wrenching on vw's since 1980 and my first 65 beetle.

[@patricklovato9161]

I have a 89 vw fox here in New mexico USA I seen it on Craigslist an got it for a good deal in 2010 an I love this car i have alot projects got a 85 cabby working on to an a 69 bug. I love the fact that Noone knows what I have the fox is a mind fk to my friends an to people that see it. I love what you have done to yours its gorgeous thank you for keeping the fox alive

[@guslima340]

It's always cool to see this fox/voyage. I have seen this one in person and its beautiful

[@JamieOrr]

Thanks Gus!

[@billbo747]

I had an 89 Fox. Drove it across America in 97. Unbelievable fuel economy from the 1.8. The oddest thing about the car was that the shocks would compress and freeze in the Canadian winter. Seasonal low rider.

[@chapel976]

Badger5 and Jenvey DTHs are just the best thing for the 16vs. I didn't realize that was a stock V8 exhaust manifold. The runners are gorgeous for a stock setup.

[@JamieOrr]

Agreed, the no-inlet-manifold-needed setup are perfect. This was the third setup that I tried, and easily the best! Yes, direct flange fitment on the V8!! :-)

[@LostGarageCustoms]

Nice video Bro! I love this car, my first car was a 1985 VW Voyage S with a ethanol 1.6 AP engine and for the reality of Brazilians, this is a great toy

[@tomaszek8888]

Great job and cool car. Also I like the area, so green and clean. Greetings from Scotland 🙂

[@Garagem80s]

VW FOX BY BRAZIL! Nice to see these cars in the USA..Here in Brazil it's a very dear car with easy and durable mechanics.. I've had more than 7 men!

[@eraummenino3011]

hum interesting, no power steering, power windows, and no passenger side mirror but they were injected from factory, the Gol GTS in Brazil had a carb but we at least had power stuff as an optional ( that no body orderd cuz air conditioning in Brazil in the 90s for some reason gave you a cold and power steering was for the weak)

[@GTE465]

Nice!!! I had one of these in South Africa.

[@beesilva1201]

Jamie....I remember when you drove to Ohio for that Fox meet up.....I remember the sparks coming from the bottom when you drove around at night....Good times!!

[@ChristopheZ]

back in the days ( think 1995-96-97, I was in my 20's), I had a Brazilian friend who lived in Orlando,Fl....He had a white FOX that he sold me for $500...lol..That car was a fun ride ( NO a/c, NO reverse and mismatched tires!! lol )...He don't remember why I bought it ( I had a new 1996 Camaro too)....Anyways, I miss that car sometimes ( and my friend who passed away a couple of years after due to illness)

[@gandhi_assuncao]

This is such a cool car, I remember seeing this in a few foruns back in the day, it was so cool because it was a brazilian car, but the style is totaly diffrent from what we have in Brazil

[@nicu7014]

Awesome fox! Your gauge cluster is from a polo 86c facelift built between '90-'94.

[@JamieOrr]

Thanks! You're 100% correct on the Polo cluster!

[@g40nut]

I have the same cluster in my G40. Soo much fun when you rev the engine way past the 7 on the rev counter 😕

[@1354691]

Nice build you made in this car. Each detail... congratulations. Nice Voyage 😁.

[@ghosttheoremproductions5469]

I have an 88 Fox GL Wagon here in Arizona I've been trying to figure out what to do with. I like quirky/oddball cars and they are definitely that, haha. I couldn't resist when I found it.

[@Blakelikesfood]

Are you in Phoenix? Project car or running?

[@ghosttheoremproductions5469]

About 2.5 hours south of Phoenix (depending on where you start from obviously). Outside Ft Huachuca. - If you want to chat about the car you can shoot me a note: [e-mail]

[@alezinho3141]

Sensacional! esse acessório do vidro de trás é espetacular, com certeza venderia aqui no Brasil!

[@alaincopter]

Love it Jamie!! I’ve been wanting this very video for about 13, 14 years now. Just the motivation I needed to keep working on mine. Thank you for scratching a very, very old itch lol. From one foxer to another 🍺

[@JamieOrr]

Hey Alain! Thank you so much!! Keep rocking the Fox!!

[@sippinthefnordies]

Holy crap! @Alaincopter ...that's a name I haven't heard for a long long time. Bringing back that vwvortex Fox Forum nostalgia. I've got a pretty straight Fox wagon that has been awaiting my motivation for a few years too, and seeing you here being motivated makes me motivated too. I guess it's time I resurrect that vwvortex account and get the party started.

[@alaincopter]

Ian!! Great to hear from you! Bud let’s dust off the old foxes and get that party started for sure! Working on the fox has been great to keep sane during this pandemic... and the forum could use a new breath of life from folks like us too! Cheers!

[@waldi2302]

The Golf GTI engine and Diesel 4+E gearbox combination was verry popular in the 80s and 90s.

[@Wissan101]

Absolutly love this thing!! Great build Jamie :)

[@SynchroSk8]

This is so great! Love all the tributes you did to other really cool cars, makes it super fun and super unique to you. Thank you for sharing!

[@JamieOrr]

Thank you so much!!

[@Erpiiix]

Gotta love the exhaust rumble!

[@jayinmi3706]

That's hilarious. I still have that issue! lol Always loved that Rabbit/Golf. Edit: Back in the late 90's early 2000, I worked at Parts Place for All VW's, and one of my coworkers had a Fox. He did the Quantum Diesel trans swap as well. I've always wanted a Fox Wagon, but they're hard to come by now. This video is bringing back memories.

[@JamieOrr]

That's awesome!!

[@carlkwasnjuk9518]

Also the Fox never came with an automatic or power steering. MOST of them came with a 4 speed manual. I believe only the Wolfsburg Edition(only with 4 doors) came with the 5 speed manual. It's funny how a Brazilian VW came in a Wolfsburg Edition.

[@ricbarker]

Hi Jamie, just found your channel. Love seeing the fox. I still have my silver fox wagon Banned Wagon

[@trauma4393]

believe we ended up following one another to englishtown maybe 10 or so years ago when I was driving my white 2 door wagon fox side exit exhaust. I was coming from south jersey

[@alanaugustto456]

Projeto desse Voyage bem legal, tá de parabéns!👍

[@stasiulc]

2:43 Golf from my city Gliwice in Poland :D

[@JamieOrr]

That's awesome - I've driven past there on the A4 many times :-) That car is so cool and so cult!

[@dbsedu]

lindo voyage parabéns! the perfect wheels for this car are known as orbital or acapulco here in brazil and were launched on the Gol GTS/GTI in 91 almost everyone uses here

[@joninhasg]

Cheers from Brazil. I loved that engine!

[@chrisroach9459]

Great video! Beautiful car. You've done an amazing job with it. I have a 1976 Dasher with 16V 2.0 with Weber 45's. VW Fox is very similar. Ironically, Dashers were the most expensive and largest VW's when new, VW Fox the cheapest and smallest.

[@Flbarcia]

Hi Jamie, amazing. Congratulations.

[@JamieOrr]

Thank you so much 😊

[@fernandomenezesbara4530]

Very cool your Voyage!!!!!cool the detail of the gutter that you took i also want tô take my gol.

[@Fierrosporcelular]

Great to see Jamie knowing about the South American scene. That said would love to see him coming a bit further down to Argentina, old VW scene here is also big, also crazy, and we have better meat 🤣 🇦🇷🤩🇧🇷

[@davdps]

Nice car, I loved that color!!!

[@wotaloadof1166]

Hi Jamie these were in the uk by the name off the Jetta my couson had one back in the 80's

[@JamieOrr]

Nice memory! The Mk1 Jetta does look very similar, but are essentially a Golf with a boot. Totally different platform from this car underneath :-)

[@eduardocristofoli6871]

Don't forget about the Gol's pickup, the Saveiro

[@Reoner]

Essas rodas são perfeitas!

[@videoaapje]

Subbed! Great content! Also loved the fiesta vid. Please keep on going!

[@JamieOrr]

Thanks for the sub! :-D

[@videoaapje]

Jamie Orr :D

[@drakeorion94]

My buddy stole a quantum coupe out from under me. It drove and handled great.

[@dre4011]

Damn!! Knew I should have bought that '88 wagon!!!

[@vmorita]

Nice car! I saw one of these in the station wagon version in Canada.

[@wesleybatistadavid8471]

Voyage Fox , show tem q trazer esse carro pro Brazil pro BGT

[@JamieOrr]

Eu adoraria trazê-lo para o BGT!

[@rydenlucas83]

Inlove With everything bowt the car bro can't wait to start Up Mine Busy with same Conversion In MK1 Citi Golf

[@yaboykawz]

Man said "MAX POWER magazine"

[@maxnaidoo2152]

Such a cool car! Are they in any way related to the South African VW Fox, cos apart from the rear-end, it seems way different.

[@JamieOrr]

Good question! They are almost totally unrelated to the Mk1 Jetta (South African Fox). There is not a single body panel that can interchange. :-) Thanks!

[@shludatheguru4800]

It looks more like a 90s Sentra that we have in south Africa

[@vuilsidecrew2725]

It looks like a old vw passat

[@Jeferson1297]

Bem que você poderia fazer um vídeo assim da saveiro 😅😅😅

[@joelsaa1]

Muito Loko o Voyage , faltou o Gol GLR aí pra fazer companhia

[@cookinginvein]

Very cool man. Good job

[@rlscustoms]

I actually remember when these were new, thought they were cool as hell with its longitudinal FWD drivetrain, always wondered what they’d be like with a 16V swap or even better a 1.8T swap from an A4 🤔

[@braziliansheetbox2497]

here in brazil it is common to put audi 1.8 20v engines in VW cars, they are very strong, some go beyond 500whp with only forged pistons and connecting rods

[@StealthSlug447]

The gauge cluster is from a mk2f polo 1991-94 looking at the rev counter it must be from a genesis spected polo

[@HenrikeVwQuadrado]

Estou estacionado nos anos 90, tenho um gol verde 1993 há 6 anos, e é meu 10° vw Lembro de você no BGT! Eu sou seu fã, jamie

[@conestyle6867]

Nice "voyage" Bro, i have one and i fakk love

[@sulfuricfire1308]

Jamie Orr now you just need a South African VW Fox then you'll have both engine layout foxes for your collection 😂😂

[@Stavim_1]

Ganho um inscrito com esse vídeo. Goste pra caramba

[@Stavim_1]

Para fora do Brasil também poderia ter o famoso GOL GTI

[@eddiemichael4333]

We have in Europe the Volkswagen Fox but it s a hatchback small car very different on aspect.

[@fernandoszatkowski519]

Por favor Volkswagen, tragam de volta o motor AP!!!!

[@psavel274]

Nice and unique... so that's a 9A 16v then? I was always after an ABF when I had my fully built 16v. You are running MS2 I'm guessing? Gotta love the ease and affordability of tuning from Megasquirt, along with the awesome support group that uses it. What are you running for an oil cooler? Glad you added the external one, as the 16v runs on the hotter side to begin with. Mishimoto makes a really cheap all aluminum radiator for the civic when your end tanks start leaking, it would be a good investment over the OEM ones. I ALMOST pulled the trigger on some Hayward Performance ITB'S for mine, although I ended up selling the whole drivetrain out of my chassis for a great price so I never got them. Audi 4000 gauges? I had a set in a few of my cars. Probably the best OEM upgrade for cheap to the interior of any VW/ Audi that doesn't have them already. Great rare and unique car, and I'm glad you are running a proper set of coilovers and not some bags. Looks like you could use a set of engine and trans mounts. Motor was moving pretty good on acceleration. Its also hard to tell on my phone but the t-belt looks like it could use a change soon. Appears to have a good amount of wear on the center. Might be a good time to throw on an adjustable cam gear, and or internal adj gears from Kent. They are great when your running an aggressive cam setup and you want to change the powerband around. I had the Kent internals, Techtonics main gear, Autotech HD springs, titanium retainers, Ferrara valves, a set of 'fast road' Shricks, and a gas flowed head. Revved really high and sounded great. I can only imagine the motor I built with a set of ITB's. Good work man, and thank you very much for sharing! 👍😎

[@LeandroSpoladore]

Nice car, loved the custom in this VW Voyage. Take a look at the Macchina channel,he lives on Texas and has a VW Gol that he built here in Brazil. Um abraço e valeu!

[@ShalomBrother]

Can’t think that I’ve ever seen a longitudinal fwd layout ever before, I’d always assumed these were rwd 🤷🏽‍♂️

[@gandhi_assuncao]

There is a few longitudinal fwd cars, like the B5 passat, Audi A4, Audi 80, subaru impreza...

[@rafaelrodrigues9136]

Essas rodas ficaram perfeitos !!

[@JamieOrr]

Obrigado!

[@rickastley3536]

It's beautiful your clockwork orange haha!👍👍👍 Waiting for Saveiro video too🚀

[@JamieOrr]

Thank you!!

[@VcottntailW]

Are those ants type 5’s on the shelf?! Maaan I wanted those for my bagged mk1 back in 2012

[@V10PDTDI]

It’s weird how The exhaust sound it’s sound a little bit like a Subaru boxer engine I wonder if it’s because of the v8 header I remember when i was in college we has a 87 spec car with CIS injection system and bolted a 1.6 TD Turbocharger on it then i remember a Audi 5000 turbo intercooler and fuel pressure regulator and a GTI knock sensor ignition system we did not have any wide bands o2 sensor just tuning by feel these were the times.

[@JamieOrr]

I think you're right on the exhaust sound; it's definitely not what is expected from a VW Fox, 8v or 16v. Awesome on your perfect old-school modifications!!

[@stefanlouw6656]

Very cool, however the vw fox in South Africa was originally was essentially a mk1 golf (round light)with a trunk, what you have there looks more like the mk1 Jetta?

[@brunolovatocwb]

Esse laranja parece os táxis de Curitiba!!

[@MRDEEGAMING]

hey nice vid im from thew uk and we had a jetta that looked very similar to that probably totaly different

[@robertwilliams1573]

I still have one stock

[@bepel1910]

Always a plasure to watch your videos 😁

[@JamieOrr]

Thank you

[@ETA555]

5:48 the name is KR or PL. KR had the K-Jetronic.

[@marquinhosouza8199]

Nos Estados Unidos ainda tem muinta peças novas para vender para o voyage ou fox ?

[@XeroFett]

Love these videos! Keep it up!

[@JamieOrr]

Thank you !!

[@start.automotiv.eletric]

Jamie..top !!! Brazilian Culture VW's..

[@andreiburgonovo5344]

Que voyage lindo man!

[@glenmessinger829]

Those bumps though... ouch!!!

[@Taktko]

Make it Rwd keep same engine move front wheels 5in forward. Would be a cool little car

[@driftaddictbr]

Have you ever thought about importing a Brazilian Polo AW or a Virtus to make a stance+harlequin modification on it?? Hahaha I think it'd be very cool (and hella expensive too!)

[@JamieOrr]

The USA car regulations mean that we cannot import a foreign car until it is 25 years old unfortunately.

[@driftaddictbr]

@@JamieOrr oh that's a shame! even brand new vehicles cannot be imported?

[@driftaddictbr]

@@JamieOrr Because here in Brazil you can only import 30 years old car or brand new vehicles (for example: a car that has never been registered in the US/never got a US license plate).

[@JamieOrr]

Yes, the car must be 25 years old, or it must be 100% made for the USA market, with all documents, emissions, safety, and other approvals from the USA Government. The Virtus etc will never be approved, so it must wait until 25 years old.

[@driftaddictbr]

@@JamieOrr hmmm gotcha! Thanks for the reply.

[@CanalAutosMotivos]

Hey Jamie! My name’s Ricardo, I’m from Montreal, I had the chance to see your car in Canada at Eurokracy 2019. One of my goals is to have one VW Fox or Voyage here in Montreal. Look, on my channel I talk about cars to a Brazilian audience, it would be an amazing opportunity for me if I could have the chance to see your car again, but this time also talking to you. If you think this is possible, please let me know and we’ll setup something. Anyway man, your car is awesome! Take care, I really hope we can meet sometime! Ricardo

[@JamieOrr]

Your videos look super interesting! It would of course be great to hang out and talk cars sometime. I hope we can do it in the future!

[@eriksouza5425]

voce tem que ver o gol gti com o mesmo painel do sel fox

[@draganmorganukic-gudgin884]

Isn't the cluster from a 93/94 polo coupe? There are plenty of them in the uk and i hope to buy one as my first car soon